Pedophobes BTFO

Must have only tested shitskins lmao
Losers

>pedophobes
Holy fuck get me off this ride I can't do this

Being attracted to sexualized images of children does not make you a pedophile.

Sometimes I get extremely-fucking-angry and want desperately to cause violence and harm against the person towards whom my anger is directed. I have never done so and, therefore, am not a murderer.

Criminals act on antisocial urges. The reason that we criminalize acting on those urges is, surprise surprise: because we accept that people have those urges and put in-place a social system intended to prevent actions resulting from them.

John is a lifeguard, and although he despises child molesters and rapists, he cannot help but be aroused from time to time when he sees a sweet loli ass in a two piece. This also comes with a profound sense of guilt.

nobody gives a shit if most men like it or not, the reason pedophilia is THE degeneracy is because it ruins the children forever

We should not promote hate for pedophobes but love for pedophiles, the truest lovers of children

>actual science.
>study involved dressing up and photo shopping young girls to look a lot older and sexier than they are normally
>OMG LOOK AT ALL THESE MEN ATTRACTED TO OUR PHOTOSHOPPED PICTURES

no

Can you provide an exert from it?

>Being attracted to sexualized images of children does not make you a pedophile.
that is the literal definition of pedophile
even though you do not act on your desire, it does not mean you do not have that desire within you
pedophiles are attracted to young, premature girls, and even though they do not act on their desires, they are still pedophiles.

>young girls to look a lot older and sexier than they are normally

>implyng this isn't constantly happening in the modern western world, being even enforced by movements like feminish and such.

it's natural to be attracted but not to act I guess...

Source

this x1000
14 year old girls look like their 18 or 20.

>screenshot of a random post
>this is proof of something

you're delusional

I'm sure letting old men fuck children will work out just as well as letting parents arbitrarily fuck with their child's gender because SJWs told them to.

It's literally the first fucking line of the post, you moron. It even included the page numbers.

Are you illiterate or something?

We /pedo/ now

Can we agree to these statements?

1. Child molesters should be criminalized.

2. Shooting child pornography should be criminalized.

Link to pdf for those interested.

I for one am. Such a rare subject.

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First it was gays then the rest of the paraphilias.
Called it/10

Totally agree with 1.-

But the definition of child porn is very weird and it's different in countries.

Wouldn't a pedophobe hate children?

And I'm not at all agreeing that this shit exists this high. If it did, that's fucking disgusting. If it is real, if we purged all betas, fags and furries from the human genome it would be closer to a rightfully oppressed and hated 1-2%, where it probably is irl.

We're humans. we are not animals who only have animal instincts. We can think outside our instincts. So if ever science said (x), we have the liberty to not do it.
Or we end up becoming like Hitler, losing in war because of his misunderstanding of "survival of the fittest".
Also, science did say that all people are racists by default, but we have the option to not do it. We are aware of the consequences of the wrong outcome of our actions.

dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2164844/Racism-hardwired-human-brain--people-racists-knowing-it.html

The thing is most men are a little bit bisexuap aswell
It's the exclusivity that makes pedophilia a dangerous disorder, not the atteaction itself

Racism is good though...

It's only when you get to blind pants-on-head retarded levels of racism such as from so-called "Neo-Nazis", then yeah it's a problem. But racism is normal and healthy in any functional society.

No it ain't. Don't elabor8. If this is b8 then fuck you m8

The saddest words of tongue and pen are these: that Cred Forums was right again.

Racism is bad, if you do not see beyond the skill. You lost talent.

pic related

>I think about sucking dick all day but I have never sucked a dick so I'm not gay.

That doesn't prove me wrong.

Zimbabweans went full pants-on-head retarded in their racism and thus paid the price for it.

Germany, Britain, and Sweden on the other hand have not been racist enough, and they too are paying the price for it.

To be racist does not imply that you must also be hateful. Merely that you prefer the interests and well-being of your group first over the interest and well-being of out-groups second.

I made sure to specify "shoot". As in filming or photographing.

If I included illustrations, then there's no way a consensus could be reached.

>1. Child molesters should be criminalized.
i doubt anyone disagrees with that, but the problem is where the law sees where it is a case is molestation, instead on consensual, just like the modern rape-cases where all it needs is a woman's word after months of silence to get the "rapist" a sentence for 10+ years, with no evidence other than the womans testimony.

>Shooting child pornography should be criminalized.
if it's consensual, i don't see a single reason why it should be criminalized, just like normal porn
in every single study, CP has been proven to lessen the committed crimes against children.

Age of Consent laws are pretty widespread already.

>Pedophobes
>Fear of children

>if it's consensual, i don't see a single reason why it should be criminalized, just like normal porn

There's no way this situation can be anything other than abusive.

The default behavior for pedophiles on imageboards seems to be trying to convince everyone that they actually wanted it when Uncle Lester coerced and fucked them at age 10, and its actually incredibly likely there are young kids out there now who WANT to get fucked. What could this mean?

>look at my (((evidence))) that proves pedophilia is good!

So, filming a little girl realizing sexual acts with an adult or getting abused should be illegal? Ok.

Because there's a clear difference between nudism, erotism, blah bah bah.

Is he Ok?

>also
It's kinda stupid refusing to listen other's ideas, debate is the best way of communication m8

>Age of Consent laws are pretty widespread already.
no, they aren't
you're only thinking of most of the americas and most of europe, there's _a lot_ of variation in everywhere else
>There's no way this situation can be anything other than abusive.
what exactly tells you that?
yes, usually children can be manipulated to do things very easily, but what exactly makes a situation of having a consensual. pleasurable sexual experience with and adult a somehow abusive or harmful experience, other than the comdemnation of our current sociological and religious standings.

Cant wait till I can shoot people like you.

>hurr durr i can't think of a counterargument so let me just so let me just attack you personally
just what i'd expect from a shart in mart.

>but what exactly makes a situation of having a consensual. pleasurable sexual experience with and adult a somehow abusive or harmful experience, other than the comdemnation of our current sociological and religious standings.

Ignoring, for the moment, the fact that it's absolutely morally disgusting to use a child for your sexual gratification...
They can't really consent and they're not adults so they don't have the knowledge of their rights or who to go to if they're being violated etc.
And in the context of pornography you have a monetary incentive to put children in a sexual situations regardless of their consent and this kind of industry is impossible to police.

They're prisoners in the houses of their parents. There's no way for society to defend them from predators.

It's amusing seeing this many Westerners triggered because of muh children, especially when the supposed child is in goddamn high school. Luckily, outside of Europe and Burgerland it's not such a big fucking deal. No one would take kindly to someone doing 8 year olds, of course, but post-puberty 13-14+ girls are fair game.

it says less than 12 years old

ya think whites are racist if they ban immigrants mudslimes.

I prefer to not be with stupid people no matter what their race is, even if they appear to be stereotypical in a certain race.

germany and sweden were open to refugee, that's why they were fucked.

Britain, have issues with their legal immigrant and the EU etc.

Not exactly because they were not racist enough. I think you are simplifying things. Although you might be right but what if, those countries you mention were also victims of a certain race. ((jews))

>back to pedoshit

What if, it is scientifically evident that it is fun to be ass rape because, shitting feels good?
Would you allow yourself to be fuck by men everyday?

Some maybe scientifically studied, proven but there will always be another study that can contradict it.

for example

Children are not capable of consent, informed or otherwise. Not only is a child inexperienced and naive in sexual matters, a child's prefrontal cortex has not matured to the point that enables judgment and can accurately evaluate risk/reward, cost/benefit. Children are not yet neurologically capable of impulse control, etc.

>wtf i love pedo now

>They're prisoners in the houses of their parents. There's no way for society to defend them from predators.
oh yes
there's certainly no such cases where abusive behavior of the parents sends them to prison, none at all.
>They can't really consent and they're not adults so they don't have the knowledge of their rights or who to go to if they're being violated etc.
here you run into the problem of who can actually consent. children are usually regarded as lesser beings not available to do so, while adults with an IQ of a fucking potato somehow can consent to anything.
>to put children in a sexual situations regardless of their consent and this kind of industry is impossible to police
how exatcly is it impossible to police?
there's a shitton of rape/violence/abuse cases where the sentence is passed on wihtout a single shred of evidence other than testimony of the "abused".
how do you think the cases would go when the "abused" would be a minor?

women cant really consent but they still get to be responsible for themselves

> a child's prefrontal cortex has not matured to the point that enables judgment and can accurately evaluate risk/reward, cost/benefit. Children are not yet neurologically capable of impulse control, etc.
you do realize there's a large % of population who never achieve this kind of "senctience", as you'd have us believe.
a large amount of people in the world are sub-human, literally retarded, yet they are allowed the same rights, benefits and ability to "consent" as a normal human being.
yet "a child" who most likely has a much more profound understanding of the world as the aforementioned, somehow lacks the ability to consent to some menial action of basic human instinct.

You raise a few very good points.

We regard "consent" as the ability to make cognitive decisions and cost/benefit judgements and as such assigned an arbitrary legal age as to when we somehow develop that ability. Yet, within this very same system, we have adults, those even vastly over the age of 18, who, as you said, are about as intelligent as a sack of potatoes, yet we don't regard them in the same way as we do a child. A child too can have a higher cognitive function than certain adults, but we still group each into their own category in a broad generalization via arbitrary limits.

We can even expand this to include your typical modern day college student. True, they are above the legal age of consent, but does that stop them from making the most ridiculous decisions that end in them getting "raped (i.e. fingered in the bathroom while drunk)? Where are their supposed cognitive functions and cost/benefit judgements? It seems as if they have none.

And in regards to the rape accusations, I do believe I recall reading on Cred Forums and earlier days of Cred Forums of mens lives being ruined because their wife/gf got embittered for some reason or another and used their children to testify against them in order to utilize them for their own personal vendetta. How is that not even more fucked up?

All points I think should be discussed tbqh, but it usually gets shut down by flame wars.

>children can't consent because they're children

Pretty circular reasoning.

It's almost like their brains aren't fully developed yet.

the brain fully develops at 25. the only sensible line to draw is menstruation and marriage

>Pedo-thread

I can't find the study anywhere. Nice try.

The human brain is a surviving machine, it is not meant to simulate rational decisons. It is not clear at all, if we can really give consent out of our own, there will ever be a doubt, wheather outside influences lead to the decison or the irrational desires of the person character.

...

But somewhere you have to set your premises as Tautologies or else it Leads to a argumentum ad infinitum.

Keep this thread alive. The discussion thus far has been palatable.

forgive english, i am Spain.
i come to study clothing and fashion at American university. i am here little time and i am very hard stress. i am gay also and this very difficult for me, i am very religion person. i never act to be gay with other men before. but after i am in america 6 weeks i am my teenage friend together he is gay also. He was show me American fashion and then we are kiss.
We sex together. I never before now am tell my mother about gay because i am very shame. As i fock this American boy it is very good to me but also i am feel so guilty. I feel extreme guilty as I begin orgasm. I feel so guilty that I pick up my telephone and call Mother in Spain. I awaken her. It too late for stopping so I am cumming sex. I am very upset and guilty and crying, so I yell her, "I AM CUM FROM SEX" (in Spain). She say what? I say "I AM CUM FROM SEX" and she say you boy, do not marry American girl, and I say "NO I AM CUM FROM SEX WITH MAN, I AM IN ASS, I CUM IN ASS" and my mother very angry me. She not get scared though.
I hang up phone and am very embarrass. My friend also he is very embarrass. I am guilt and feel very stupid. I wonder, why do I gay with man? But I continue because when it spurt it feel very good in American ass.

if you rape a kid you get lynched, the end

stop posting a shit copypasta that has no relation to the thread at hand

Where is the relevance?

let's just compare the kids and the what you called sub-humans to fruits.

True that some fruits need to be riped in order to eat it, or bare seeds.

And some fruits taste best even if it is not yet riped.

The point is, they need to be riped.

the end.

>there's certainly no such cases where abusive behavior of the parents sends them to prison, none at all.

And what does that prove? There are many many abusers who are not jailed.

However there isn't, in general the situation in society where a parent has a monetary incentive to sexually abuse their children. By making child pornography legal, you're encouraging child abuse.

>here you run into the problem of who can actually consent.
Plenty of retards are never recognized to have the ability to consent. There are grey area cases, but with respect to young children it' not that grey at all.

>there's a shitton of rape/violence/abuse cases where the sentence is passed on wihtout a single shred of evidence

That's NOT how the system is intended to function. That's injustice. Would you prefer that I say it's impossible to justly police?

In the case of raping women, women are capable of understanding what happened and what to do about it. With children it's not so clear.

>finding someone boner-inducing attractive = / = wanting to have sex / a relationship with

It's probably as simple as nakked female = boner on a primal level

No brain is ever "fully" developed, it changes from nano seconde to nano secound. You would have to argue, more in the lines of, there this list of behaviours correlated to a brian state within a certain age range.

It is about stimuli and internal motivation at the point where the stimuli is presented. Not every female gives a booner to all men she is presented. There have to be a certain amount of sign stimuli, if it is present in female and you are motivated the age is irrelevant to your bodyly reaction.

What sign stimuli are there in prepubescent girls?

Youthful features to the more further left of the bell curve.

Features such as smooth skin, neotenous facial features, little to no hair, etc.

Features we unconsciously associate with youth and thus greater chances of healthier offspring.

But further up the surface, other features arise that allow us to make that final decisions such as secondary sexual characteristics, which the mind begins associating very soon during and after puberty, so around the ~14-15 age mark.

You would expect the reaction to occure strongest, if the secundary sexual characteristics are present which have the best correlation to fertilety. If a female shows them she attracts regardless of her age.

Pedo pride world wide

If my brain remembers correctly, your brain has fully developed at 25 and then starts degenerating.

being sexually attracted to children isn't bad as long as you don't go out and try to kidnap some poor kid or molest your relatives.

No it hasn't 25 is your intellectual and strutural peek in some aspects, but it devolopeds from there on even if overall activity is not getting better, the structure still changes e.g. new conictions are fromed or inesified or the old ones die or get worse. You could argue the mental peek is around birth because numerical you have the most living brian cells than.

that is not a fucking beaver

Bump.

It is such an interesting topic you can find everything from theory of mind/Freedom of will, evoltionary biology to law/ethics and even game theory.

No.

I think you might be confusing pedophile with child molester

Indeed it is. However, due to the nature of the primary subject matter at hand, it's avoided by most people.

There seriously is a lack of research behind this topic as nobody wants to touch it.

Everybody is going for fields like allturism in social psychology and related biological sub fields, most reasercher have a heavy bias and stay away from topics like this, or race and all which are the real essentials of a human being. If you do, you will enter a zone of twillight and the state money won't be there with you.

see
>The slide and audiotape data combined suggest that most normal men are not sexually aroused by nude female children per se, but that some men who report no pedophilic activity are sexually aroused when a female child is depicted as enjoying sexual activity with an adult male
>p.691

You will be gassed

Correction:

1. Child molesters should be shot

2. People who shoot child pornography should be shot

This is the same as saying a rape victim who got off didn't get raped because the body did what it was suppose to, despite the person pleading for it to stop.