Dumb spoiled brat kids here actually look up to Pinochet

>Dumb spoiled brat kids here actually look up to Pinochet

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Hop in senpai

But how can you say he's right wing if he gives out free helicopter rides?

Ever been in a helicopter before?

Not arguments.

>free falling communists actually look up to his helicopter

Complains about worshiping a dictator on a board that worships Hitler.

AYYY. Chile is an economic powerhouse in South America.
A one way helicopter ride is in your future
youtube.com/watch?v=nTP9DevI3mQ

time to fly

>free falling communists actually look up to his helicopter

Did they actually throw anyone out of the helicopters?

The wikipedia page doesn't say anything about it. It just says they had death squads travelling by helicopter to various prisons to execute people.

This ride will be on my book.

How do you think they passed the time in flight?

It's a meme perpetuated by foreigners.
And it's a inefficient way to kill somebody.

i'm sure there's a repdill for Pinochet that addresses all those concerns OP

The Argentinians could give you some pointers

and so do commies before they fall into the water

So from what I can find

theguardian.com/world/2001/jan/09/chile.pinochet

They carried out the executions at the prisons, but likely dumped the bodies out in the ocean via helicopter.

I guess it's possible they killed people in-flight on their way to the ocean.

Sometimes it's not just about efficiency my friend.

What is CTR trying to slide now?

41% of Americans were below what we now consider the poverty line in 1949

>Mfw I'm a chilean immigrant
>Mfw people keep shitting on pinochet even though he quite literally saved us from becoming a communist/socialist paradise
>Mfw my family and I had to live in Chile while communist/socialist revolutionaries were shooting off artillery in our cities

Fuck you. I'll give you a personal helicopter tour.

Not an argument.

Not thanks to him though.

Yes, they did. They threw some people to the ocean, tied and with their heads covered. The rest were just bodies.

>Commies
Pinochet was a fucktard that divided a country. We were never more apart than after '73.

It's been 43 years, and we won't ever be united under something that isn't related to football or to shit on neighbors.

do you want to go for a ride? It never ends....

The standard of material poverty changes from place to place. That's been recognized since Adam Smith.
In 1949, nobody had iPhones, and many didn't have telephones at all, but you didn't need a telephone to apply for a job.

it was either Pinochet or Allende you fucking commie faggot
go back to Venezuela

Kek

>Not thanks to him though.
Yeah thanks to him. You'd all be commies without him

>being such an inneficient newfag

No, it wasn't you disgusting licking monkey anus lover.

Pinochet should have been way more civilized with his coup. He shouldn't have killed as much people as he did, it was only needed to send them out of the country.

He shouldn't have killed Victor Jara, for example. If he and many others were alive, do you think anyone would cry over what happened on '73?

>Commies
Socialist, my ignorant burger lover newfriend.

Sounds to me like one round of helicopters wasn't enough

>Socialist
No difference.

he was a neo liberal dictator set up by merica. i don't respect the man a great deal

What was the miracle of Chile?

Yes thank to him.
Allende: almost Venezuela tier shortages
Pinochet: much needed economy reforms, actually a respected country now

I don't look up to him, but I do want to kill commies.

Only shooting them beforehand is inefficient.

>listing losses of the coup
>mentions that dumb commie singer
>doesn't mention cybersyn

under rated

Uncle August didn't care about arguments.
Commie = Helicopter ride. End of story.

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It's never late to follow your dreams.

>Allende: almost Venezuela tier shortages
>Still believing this meme
You are a retard. This was a proved shortage tool mounted by the right wing.

>11/09: No food on any store
>12/09: Every store full of food

Yeah no, shut up.

>Pinochet: much needed economy reforms, actually a respected country now
>Pinochet having a brain for reforms
>Pinochet didn't screw the country on '81
>Pinochet didn't sold the people's retirement fund

Again, if you are going to be retarded, go to porlaputa or to emol. That's your place.

ITT: edgy (((right)))-wing teens worship a CIA asset and an illiterate peasant

Most people won't actually acknowledge cybersyn so I'm actually tired of doing it, but thanks weon.

Calm down buddy, let the edgy kids be.

>Mountian Negro
ok

Best Post in Thread Award!

>and we won't ever be united under something that isn't related to football or to shit on neighbors.
Dank meme, christian democraps and FRAP were doing their best on that in the early 60's, but retarded millenials believe whatever shit they tell them.

Yeah no, more civilized like what? the average argie coup?
They'd bitch about anything, in fact sending them out of the country was a huge mistake, fucktards like Turdeau in Canada or Palme in Sweden gave them asylum, money and help them organize (((activists))), while the more fucked in the head (like Bachelet) went to the fucking GDR to like Honecker's ass.

I know

Why are you so angry? You're a decent country now. Unfortunately surrounded by shit.

kek

neoliberals are same shit as communists, only they destroy societies slowly
Pinochet=CIA
Pinchet=neoliberal puppet
just because he killed commies (in the most disgusting, NKVD-tier ways) doesn't make him a hero
there's short term and long term
in long term, neoliberalism will eat the world up, just like communism
it's only temporarily better and produces more wealth (usually by making poor relatively poorer and rich richer)
you and every retard ITT, fuck off with your false dichotomy
cancer is cancer, and both commies and neoliberals are cancer

Why is Chile the only based spic country? They killed commies and imported Reaganomics and Thatcherism...God tier.

Go back to your communist hug box of Reddit.

>This was a proved shortage tool mounted by the right wing.
memes/10

Yeah that happens when you try to save your country from the marxists.

>You are a retard. This was a proved shortage tool mounted by the right wing.
That's some Chavista tier rebuttal.

>Dank meme, christian democraps and FRAP were doing their best on that in the early 60's, but retarded millenials believe whatever shit they tell them.

Did they acomplish anything though? No, then it didn't happen. Pinochet fucked this up.

>Yeah no, more civilized like what? the average argie coup?
They'd bitch about anything, in fact sending them out of the country was a huge mistake, fucktards like Turdeau in Canada or Palme in Sweden gave them asylum, money and help them organize (((activists))), while the more fucked in the head (like Bachelet) went to the fucking GDR to like Honecker's ass.

Bitching amounts to pennies when you don't have anything to back it up. With every "detenido desaparecido" you have someone that grew hating the right wing beyond any reason.

The fact that we are decent, doesn't mean that we can't be even better. That's what I'm bitter about. We have lost 26 years fighting over some retarded that killed thousands of people and died shitting his pants while drooling over his shirt.

It's a fact that the economy was doing shit under Pinochet and that the """"prosperity"""" only began with the fall of his regime and the election of centre-left governments.

Why would you shoot a man before throwing him out of a helicopter?

Kek

Not American

Have you ever picked a history book? Well, you are defending Pinochet, so there is a high chance that you haven't.

Cool meme, Ahmed!

[citation needed]

you saved your country from Marxists, well done
now your country has 5 million Turks
how many Turks in Eastern Germany?
where does AfD have the most support?

commies are shit but Pinochet served the same people that Merkel is serving, only you people are too fucking dumb to see that

t. commie underage JJCC

nsarchive.gwu.edu/news/20000919/01-12.htm

There you are illitirate nigger.

>He disagrees with me so he is a commie
You are a fucktard. I fighted more commies than you ever have in your whole life, daddy's bitch.

Pinochet killed 3000 people and that's according to ((statistics))) from a panel obviously hostile to him.
His killings are the most overblown "atrocity" ever shilled. Received more press in the West than Pol Pot killed literally a thousand times more in the same years.

The memes write themselves back in time.

>Why would you shoot a man before throwing him out of a helicopter?

Pinochet literally embezzled funds you ignorant fuck
he wasn't the hero you imagine him to be, and puting rats in women's vaginas makes you literally no different from your hated commies
>b-but muh commiez lets pretend were in 50s and commiez are relevant and im mccarthy im so edgy and contrarianXDDDD

He saved the fucking economy from the Allende disaster you literal retard.

Pinochet did nothing wrong.

>illitrate
o i am laffing

Like wow like really like wow How can you even have you ever picked up a history book like wow really!?! I just can't right now. Like you are on the wrong side of history you white male.

Looks like you haven't read your own source, because it proves nothing.

>I fighted more commies than you ever have in your whole life

Ay lmao

Media is full of left wing faggots, they control the news and show you how bad you are if you dont agree with them

In burguerland is hilarious how many media cover bad things about trump and called next hitler.

>huuurrrr you have to pick one or the other

They're both shit, but communism is far more shitty.

There's a third option you know.

then why did Chilean economy only start really growing in 90's?

Kek.

Pinochet was a necessary evil. Appreciate it because now you're not like the rest of the filthy South Americans. Just leave it at that.

>>Did they acomplish anything though? No, then it didn't happen
Sure, whatever fucking christian democraps act like they're not responsible, I guess retards like Chonchol were not around or all the dumbasses that left the DC to form trash like the IC or MAPU.
Frei's rule was a shitshow all the way from 64' to 70', with all his retarded reforms, despite all the support of LBJ.
And OK, I guess the FRAP and later UP didn't have their own shitty militias, or all the useless faggots who believed that they could get power by force. Hell, this is the country where the socialists managed to be even more awful the the commies. And this is not counting even more retards like MIR or the VOP.

but that's my point, can you read?
this false dichotomy where you either support neolibs/neocons or you're a commie is the political discourse of retards who can't make out their ass from their face

mon negre, la feuille

Do any of the new Tropico games let you give helicopter rides?

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You retarded faggot. Chile is literally the only country in Latin America that isn't a shit-tier third world hellhole. Pinochet and his generous helicopter policy are a close part of this.
t. lived in Chile for 2 years.

More people died on 9/11 than in Pinochet death squads. This is some next level ridiculous focus on irrelevant stuff.
>makes you literally no different from your hated commies
Not an argument. You can torture people without being a commie, and being a commie is worse than being an torturer.
> commiez are relevant
Commies were having a big comeback at the time with USA pulling out of Vietnam, Angola and Mozambique falling for it, the Arabs going full shilling for socialism and the war of 1973, Libya going socialist at the same time. Not to mention Pol Pot butchering a third of the population that wouldn't be reeducated. Italy had regular commie terrorist attacks. China was still in the cultural revolution.

How fucking deluded do you have to be NOT to be on 24/7 commie watch in the 70s?

Noice.

Sadly no, you can still put down commie rebellions as a fashy goy though.

>They'd bitch about anything, in fact sending them out of the country was a huge mistake, fucktards like Turdeau in Canada or Palme in Sweden gave them asylum

My uncle rented out a house to a commie who fled from Chile. The fucker lived there without paying rent for the better part of a year and my uncle had to go to court to get him removed. I worked on the fence at the rental house and the commie tried to get us to drive him to a doctor's appointment.

>third option
Nigger, the natsocs here were killed in 1938.
At that point it was let the reds rule or kill them.

- Buchi hacks
- A lot of TLC

>Can't make a mistake

It proves that CIA assisted with money to: Transportists (which in turn ended helping with the shortages

>Media full of left wing faggots
>Local media is fully private with the only state controlled channel, is composed by a board of both left wing and right wing

And this is how you know that most of our fellow chileans are full of shit.

The DC was a full different party back then. Most of their supporters were young idealists (I know it from a close source). By 73 they just pivoted to the right in order to throw Allende.

>Chile is an economic powerhouse in South America
>Not an argument

Kill yourself.

Blokhin was a genuine butcher. He took a suitcase full of pistols, a leather apron for the blood spray, and a room with a drain in the floor and personally shot almost 10,000 Poles to death, in the back of the head, over the course of weeks.

>Chile is an economic powerhouse in South America

>Implying it couldn't be better
t. Maple syrup

based chile

>Implying it couldn't be worse

>Local media is fully private with the only state controlled channel, is composed by a board of both left wing and right wing

Can you be more stupid? Every fucking channel here is controlled by SJW and comandante bachelet friends.

We dont have channels like fox news here (CHV is not more tatanvision)

Go back to read shit medias like El ciudadano o the clinic

>It proves that CIA assisted with money to: Transportists (which in turn ended helping with the shortages
Kind of a stretch isn't it? All it says is that there was CIA funding, but doesn't specify to who.

We could have been better, but we voted Bachelet again.

>rats in women's vaginas

Really falling in love with this kind of Talmudic sophistry. Reminds me of masturbation death machines and Holocoasters.

>Wow just wow. Go get EDUCATED then I'll respond

Only after the more "idealist" left and VOP killed Perez Zujovic, before that even Frei looked up to Tito.

>board of both left wing and right wing
Our right wing parties are cuckservatives, Lavin or Piñera would support Jeb! unironnically.

Chilecopters

Holy shit a Venezuelan. I thought you all died in the commipocalypse.

The only good thing that comes to mind about the commie regime Pinochet ended was that they were building this cool cybernetic command center to run the nation. The mad scientist of cybernetics, Stafford Beer, designed this way ahead of its time.

The junta wasn't a fan of Star Trek shit apparently that was the end of it.

>socialist
Whatever your specific brand of never been tried before, your ride aboard the helicopter is still free.

TVN = State controlled
C13 = Private (Catholic Church)
REDTV = Private
CHV = Private
MEGA = Private

Newspapers
LUN, EMOL = Agustin, son of a bitch, Edwards. Also private.
3RA = Copesa. Private too.

Radio
No public radios. Unless you want to say that "Universidad de Chile Radio" is state controlled.

Agree, the problem is that the alternative was "I just escaped a mental institution" Matthei.

>He bought the Fox News meme

The back and forth of American political rhetoric is like the back and forth of a great saw. There is nothing "mainstream" untainted by the ideology of Marxist internationalism.

Or worse, MEO

>The only good thing that comes to mind about the commie regime Pinochet ended was that they were building this cool cybernetic command center to run the nation.
Yeah, and it was really efficient! Socialism works, guise!

Chilean channels for muricans.
CHV = MSNBC
Red TV = CNN
TVN (state owned) = BBC

There's not anything even close to Fox News.

>C13 = Private (Catholic Church)
1/3 Catholic U, 2/3 Luksic, huge Bachelet donor.

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You forgot La Nación. But to be honest, everyone forgets about it.

>MEO
I keked. He was never an alternative. Maybe Velasco, although he was a little too soft tempered.

physical removal

Be the change you want to see in the world.

The reforms Pinochet implemented were strengthened after he left. He formed the foundation of the "Chilean miracle." Pinochet was doing a lot of things right, but he failed to properly invest in social services and infrastructure.

Eduardo Frei Ruiz-Tagle, a liberal not a true socialist, knew this and he focused on getting Chileans out of poverty by funding more social programs. (He also funded infrastructure.) Combined with his social reforms and the business friendly environment created by Pinochet many countries and companies invested in Chile.

I'm not a capitalist good goy who thinks completely free markets are a good thing, but I know for sure state owned companies are an abysmal cesspool of corruption and Pinochet did a great service removing them. I also know communists would've completely destroyed foreign trade, and none of the growth in the 90s would've been possible under a socialist regime. Furthermore I also believe none of the sweeping policies Pinochet made and his removal of Marxist revolutionaries would've been possible under a democratic regime either.

The coup was messy, but it needed to be done for the good of Chile.

Ultimately he did a bunch of things right, and so did his "successor." After all look at Venezuela and compare it to Chile.

reason.com/archives/2016/05/24/5-ways-capitalist-chile-is-much-better-t

You don't believe the helihoax do you?

>Comic Sans

oppinion discarded, faggot

I never said it worked, just that it was cool. An Englishman designed it anyway-too bad he didn't choose a more stable country for his Star Trek bridge.

fuck off dumb spoiled brat

Thing is it probably happened, I'd give them that. Since there is no big numbers the Pinochet shit-talkers have to resort to endlessly shill the same story as if it was relevant, exemplary. they treat it as the death of Socrates, Caesar or even Jesus Christ.

There are more heinous crimes committed daily in Johannesburg, Chimpcongo or London, let alone South America.

>Luksic is a huge Bachelet donor
So? She still fucked a lot of corporations in her 2nd term. And still, it is a private media.

I swear I keep forgetting about it.
I also forgot La Segunda.

hope you have cancer

I'm still glad that MEO kept getting laughed at every single day until he went back to obscurity. Still wish Velasco had been a real alternative, though.

Any dictator that has the fashion sense of M. Bison is all right in my book.

suuuure

>hope you have cancer

t. College (((Intellectual)))

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>The fucker lived there without paying rent for the better part of a year and my uncle had to go to court to get him removed.
I'm not surprised at all. They bitch and moan every time they want more gibmedats.

no need for that, he is currently starving due to socialist policies

Private=/=Rigth wind

C13 owner Luksic is friend of Bachelet
REDTV is full SJW and faggotry
CHV owner Turner Broadcasting System (CNN and shit)

The only true rigth wing here is EMOL

youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o

We are talking about chilean right wing. Not burger right wing. Both are very different.

>reaganomics
Making the national debt skyrocket, suuuuree

>killing commies
1/3 right-wingers were communists in highschool. They would literally have killed 1/3 of Trump voters

No he is starving due to ultracapitalism. Venusawala is proof ultracapitalism fails.

Argentina used to throw people out of planes during the Dirty War.

>Perhaps he's wondering why you would drug a man before throwing him out of a plane

Chile seems like a good country compared to its neighbours. Was he really that bad?

Based Pinochet saved country.

Faggot commies just mad about being justly thrown out of copters for the good of the people

;_;
youtube.com/watch?v=nTP9DevI3mQ

You know 1/3 highschool are communist in some states? Most later become right-wing, it's like you hate the future.

I'd love to know what'd have happened if CyberSyn was ever able to operate properly.

The control room looked comfy as fuck

Chile will always be based.
youtube.com/watch?v=PmZGuPfGNrY

Who would shoot a man before throwing him out of a helicopter?

More people die from drunk driving yearly than did in 9/11, yet we invested stupid amounts in a "war on terror" because of 9/11. It's about emotional power as much as it is about raw death numbers.

Also, Pol Pot had some tacit support from the USA and UK going forward (after Vietnam invaded and BTFO him, we continued to recognize the government involving him as the legitimate one.)

wot?

Yeah so what? in communist nations I bet 90% were under the poverty line. OF course there can be no real statistics because the USSR's definition of poverty was probably at a much lower standard, and of course if it was bad they would have lied about it. And don't forget the 8 million Ukrainians who starved under communism

>chilean right wing. Not burger right wing
Pretty much Jeb-tier.

Pinochet literally did nothing wrong.

Prove me wrong, commies.

Pro tip: you literally can't because your commie arguments are literally invalid.

The CIA is ultra-capitalist and destroyed the nation so yeah.

freedom of speech.

Sorry about your father.
Not really.

Both are jew-tier

Something that you don't even have in Canada

No shit sherlock

>Socialist
Way to split hairs
I call him a socialist/communist

Would you like a free helicopter tour, sir?

Where do you get off criticizing other countries for not having something you don't either?

You also don't have any girl friends because they were all thrown out of the helicopter

I want one of these seats for my battlestation.

>immigrant

If Chile was made into this paradise you bleet about, you shouldve stayed there. Hypocrite piece of shit.

Same way someone with lung cancer can criticize a smoker.

Yeah. The designer of Cybersyn, this guy, was one of the last great cyberneticists to follow the work of Norbert Wiener. Cybernetics is a largely lost paradigm of system analysis, and this was a significant artifact of it.

sounds like post-2008 Greece/Spain m8

He was seriously not that brutal when compared to leftists.

>>>>freedom of speech

What a joke. So marxist revolutionaries shouldn't be controlled when they brainwash shit eating kids into rebelling against the government?

You had no idea how bad it was or how much of a threat the revolutionaries really were.

It disgusts me to see someone shitpost on how a foreign country should've done something "different" when they haven't even been outside their sheltered 1st world countries.

The world is a brutal place with ruthless people. Sometimes the only way to deal with them is to get your hands dirty.

That isn't edgy too, it's the sad truth.

Average leftist: "Sure I ignore tens of millions slaughtered and starved under leftists regimes, but Pinochet killed like 10 thousand people! And expelled almost 50 thousand more! THAT IS A LOT OF PEOPLE"

Based leaf loves Pinochet >He shouldn't have killed as much people as he did, it was only needed to send them out of the country.

Because they never go abroad and rally leftist support and then come back and topple your government

Pinochet is a hero, one of the very few in the history of your whole shitty continent

But he killed gommies therefore he was a good guy
Just like how Rhodesia was heaven on Earth because it killed black dudes

Why does every liberal argument always have to include the "if you disagree with me you're just insecure" clause? Is there a term for this? Like gaslighting but trying to make you think of yourself as insecure instead of crazy?

this desu senpai

Canada, bringing the bantz

>Commiecucks mad about being given a taste of their own medicine.

all socialist countries are led by the communist party

>vietnam, cuba, NK, China, etc...

now eat shit and go back to the helicopter

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Better than Venezuela. Who're still inferior to Chile despite their oil reserves.

Honestly I don't blame him for immigrating. Chile could never reach the levels of prosperity of a first world nation. They don't have the education, the infrastructure, or the resources to fund the former two. They will likely remain in this state for a long time. It's not an ideological or economic fault of the Chileans it's just that they don't have the tools.

Personally I don't think we should allow immigrants from those countries. But that's another argument.

>redistribution of resources, in accordance with his needs. Specifically he had an abundance of blood and a serious lack of lead.
Thanks Pinochet!

Pinochet dindu nuffin
Chile is the only non-shithole among its neighbors

Spot the cristina lover faggot

>What a joke. So marxist revolutionaries shouldn't be controlled when they brainwash shit eating kids into rebelling against the government?
Well what they are doing is less bad than Pinochet killing kids for being communist

>It disgusts me to see someone shitpost on how a foreign country should've done something "different" when they haven't even been outside their sheltered 1st world countries.
Canada isn't first world, you are disgusting.

I enjoyed this biopic about him.

I voted for Macri.

Nice try, though.

>How can someone who has firsthand knowledge of the damage caused by the lack of an essential right criticize not having it?

>pinochet was bad for the economy meme xD

truth

>Cred Forums loves freedom and the second amendment
>Cred Forums loves Pinochet

Nice hipocrisy faggots

le epic XDD

>the starts to climb right at the end of Pinochet's regime
Thanks for proving the point

My dad got a job here when I was 6 because engineers in canada weren't as good as him when he closed a multi-million dollar deal. Don't get mad when Canada used to practice good immigration policies and only got the best of every country (refugees not-withstanding).

My fellow weon is being a faggot, don't listen to him. If Pinochet hadn't killed that many people they would have been emboldened to continue trying to create a civil war, he killed a few thousand to save millions.

Not an argument.
Not an argument.
The revisionism is real.

>>>/helicopter rides/

Pinochet reduced poverty by 10% in 3 years towards the end of his mandate

Kek'd

Good post.

>low time preference mudfrog millennial
>knowing anything about large scale planning, institutional inertia or macroeconomics
Typical anti-intellectual leftist faggotry.

history is written by the victor yeah?

>pinochets policy starts to bear fruit
>See what a failure xD

Why are leftists such retards?

Not an argument.
Also,
>le rebbit is le communist meme

My coward friend, i recommend you to read the economic crisis and reforms by Buchi.

Pinochet was a true hero and save us from evil commies.

So sad in 2016 we have new generations of brainwashed faggots who loves socialism and wants to erase the bad things of allende in the history.

>hurrrr there was no economic effort by the right wing to smear Allende

I can't see Corradini's sculptures without feeling the chills, what a master. I hope I could see the Tuccia velata in person before ISIS bombs the Louvre.

>Not an argument.
(you)

"If I throw you out of this helicopter will you die?"

They live in a fantasy world where they believe that direct governmental action can have an immediate positive effect on the economy. They don't understand that the economy is complex, because their brains can't handle complexity (which is why they advocate for things such as a minimum wage or more taxes)

kinda like the effort to smear pinochet

Perhaps he's wondering why you'd shoot a man, before throwing him out a helicopter

based monty negro

I swear so few of the fuckers on this boards are redpilled

Christ I bet you believe the same thing is happening in venezula

>leftist crashes the economy, constant work strikes in the streets
> Based pinochet spends 2 decades fixing the mess
>LOL PINOCHET DUCKED LOOK AT THE LONG TERM EFFECTS XD

Selling your freedom for money. Thats what a degenerate jew would do.

>He thinks leftists will give him freedom
>He thinks freedom is a right and not a responsibility

Are you counting the number of people "disappeared?"
Also, his regimes atrocities weren't exactly mild. There were allegations of tortures like forced incest, sex with animals, infection with diseases via rape, burning with blowtorches, heads being held underwater in raw sewage, and live wires being attached to female breasts and genitals. He also carried out terrorist attacks in foreign countries, including a gruesome car bombing in Washington DC in 1976.

when you type stuff that isn't about America...no1 gives a fuck

its like asking Cred Forums:

"you like badmitten, right?"

response:

"TITS OR GET THE FUCK OUT!!!!"

how many commies does chili have? hmm??????

money is freedom, democracy is slavery

Not an argument.
>ayy lmao
Not an argument.
>the American media is biased towards socialism and the left wing
Jesus Christ you're blind or retarded. I can't tell which.

>Waa muh poor communists
:'(

No one cares red scum

>forced incest, sex with animals, infection with diseases via rape, burning with blowtorches, heads being held underwater in raw sewage, and live wires being attached to female breasts and genitals
Oh yes, and there were also death by masturbation machines, and - oy gevalt! - they made soap bars out of the victims

>commiez lets pretend were in 50s and commiez

Implying commies don't still basically rule South America and help make mestizos even poorer
Admittedly shit tier South America isn't all that *relevant* anyway

Why do everyone love Chile so much because of their helicopter thingy but don't feel the same towards Argentina? We used planes to do it and threw communists on the sea. We even have a Nobel Prize winner, Adolfo Pérez Esquivel, who says he was thrown and survived.

implying chile is a power house economy in south america because he removed commie

>Until 1977
Show the graph until 1990

>We used planes to do it and threw communists on the sea
I read the book
Gotta admit, I wish I could throw commies out of planes

...

Not as effective sadly. You have leftist monkeys posturing against the UK and just makes yourself look foolish. I honestly don't even know much about this golden era in your history. Provide me some resources noble argie if you please.

Because anytime Argentina is brought up it either drifts into
>muh Falklands
or
>white

>Not knowing how Allende's associates ruined the chilean market through blind nepotism and greed.

The socialist party was the predecessor to our current ptoblems in the politic area. They removed competent public employees and decided to hire some uneducated populists that never worked i the adminstrative sector.

>holding certain political views is worse than inflicting severe pain and suffering on others
If you're not capable of condemning torture more than disagreeable thought, you have no place speaking on what is more moral.
>Angola and Mozambique
Technically Angola was in a state of civil war at the time, so there was no consolidated government.
>Italy
They also had far-right terrorist attacks. Communists weren't the only assholes.
>Vietnam
The USA was still in Vietnam in 1973.
Anti-communist regimes were also widespread. Indonesia had carried out ethnic and political purges less than a decade earlier, and that regime was still in power. Paraguay was headed by a very nasty far-right dictator, as was much of South and Central America. The Duvaliers and Somozas were still in power in Haiti and Nicaragua, with ample support from the USA.

Why? They don't reach 73 levels at 80' and are on par with all time highs at 90 anyway

Sounds like Hillary campaign should sign him up as an advisor, does he have a linked in account?

Was Argentina a big country?

>le Holohoax meme

t. José Piñera

Are you implying there's an argument to be had with the OP


or are you just a faggot?

I don't say otherwise. The whole war on terror is completely fucking useless. But at least it red pilled people about the muslim actual demographic menace.

Because that is not true? 81 was one of the biggest crisis in our whole history.

Not an argument.
You forgot to mention the part where it helped mitigate the effects of USA-backed """strikes""" by angry truck drivers. It helped avoid worse disaster.

>Pinochet libertarian
That's wrong, you fucking retard.

South America had a huge recession at that time and yes unemployment did rise pretty high at the time wages were never at 73 levels again regardless of what your uni wants you to believe

>8 million
Robert Conquest pls
At least in the Soviet Union people had jobs.

I dunno, I think in many ways it caused more problems than it solved.

I mean there's a reason Blair was both the biggest cheerleader for the war on terror and determined to "Shove Britain's noses in diversity"

I suppose in some superficial ways he succeeded. The British upper classes found they were perfectly content with Muslims - as they were with poor British people - so long as they lived far far away from them.

>all leftists support Stalin
wew lad

Pinochet just turned everything back to normal and even deteriorated the economy. You realize that after the leftist came back to power the country actually grew and improved

Regardless they all seem to support a tard like Allende lol

I don't think you can read graphs Pierre.

missed the joke completely

>Allende
>Tard
Wew lad

Actually, that quote in context was meant to portray the dissolution of the state in preparation for a stateless society. People like you just like to spam it everywhere as if it proves your hypothesis that there's some sort of slippery slope.
Both views are total bullshit and anyone with half a brain knows it.

Not an argument.
Not an argument.

The main reason Chileans on Cred Forums defend Pinochet is that the only young people in Chile who still worship the faggot are turbivirgin retards with autism who split their time evenly between LoL and Cred Forums shitposting.

>there's some sort of slippery slope
Oh yes goyim Socialism will just end at that. The government won't increase it's influence at all.
What's that, you don't want to go to the labor camp? Too bad.

Spin up the choppers boys. This one earned a free ride

>Every fucking channel here is controlled by SJW and comandante bachelet friends.
What fucking country do you live in because it sure as fuck isn't Chile.

>Cred Forums is one person

lurk moar faggot

More like Pino-gay, amirite?

> deteriorated the economy
>raised wages to a all time high by the end of his term
> his policy reduced poverty esspecially in the last 5 years in office
> reduced inflation consistently even during a recession
>next president defended him on a international level
>CDP basically maintained his economic plan but increased by social program funding by a measly 2%
>somehow considered leftists
Get real dude. You will be venezula tier in 2 decades because of young tards such as yourself don't know what it was like when your country was poor.

commies still butthurt years later chile is superior to any other south american shithole lets not pretend otherwise

SeeWEW FUCKING LAD

Communism doesn't deserve arguments. It deserves a helicopter ride.

>mfw I have a great job, own a business, have a hot girlfriend
>still think Pinochet was a better alternative than civil war and socialist wonderland

Chile was poorer under Pinochet than during most points in its entire history in comparison to the rest of South America. People didn't get sick of him because of muh human rights, Chileans wanted him gone because we lived like shit during his government. He was basically as inept as Allende but in a different way.

Neither is muh poor communists. I don't care about leftist scum

He lives in "its falling apart yet the companies earn over 220% of profits" country. Probably ruled by Agustin Edwards.

not an argument

yet chile is the best country in latin america

THIS IS ABSOLUTE FACT.

Nobody cares what expats think. You do not participate in the politics of Chile, you are instead, for all intents and purposes, a fucking leaf.

Wew lad

LITERALLY FUCKING WHO

You just proved him right though...

>one two year recession
>better than south American average most of the time
>you proved him right xD

God I hope when leftists take full control again a new Pino rises and you are on the first helicopter ride

>GDP growth.
Look at the GDP per capita chart instead, burger.

strange logic bro

Dumb spoiled brats are communists. Communists don't support Pinochet.

I don't care weon, I'm coming back home to vote anyways when the time comes.

Funny even than it is massively better than under your retarded Allende

>75
>Allende
American Education

I said both Allende and Pinochet were bad rulers though. Chilean politics isn't a dichotomy of loves allende/hates pinochet and hates allende/loves pinochet, which I'm sure is a bit too complex for a burger to understand so I'm just gonna leave you to your ebin meems.

>Wow the first few months of this coup and it takes him a year to completely turn this sinking ship around what around failure
>Allende isn't a retard who squanded a possible economic boom in South America at all xD

Sure you can do that, but I wouldn't recommend retiring here, leaf, you might love Pinochet but you're gonna find he didn't leave a very good pension system behind.

Youre talking to the board that idolizes Hitler senpai. Save yourself the rage

> even deteriorated the economy
Trashing Pinochet is one thing. Denial is another.

With the exception of 1982 you were doing better than the rest of South America during Pinochet's regime. And 1981-2 was a global recession, it was simply worse in Chile because Pinochet believed globalization was occurring faster than it did and relied on foreign investments that never came because the rest of the world was also in recession. I was all over Europe and the US as well. Integrated over the whole 80s, Chile did the best in South America. In fact 1982 was the only year that was not good in his rule.

And yes, the pension system of Chile needed to die. You can't thank Pinochet enough for this. The Piñera reform of pensions has been imitated in dozens of countries with great success and no commie bullshit.

The heigh of his success was still poorer than the rest of South America, and his policies caused such a harsh economic crisis he had to authorize the plebiscite in fear people would just overthrow him like the Argentina junta was. Sorry bro but there was no wonderful Pinochetist prosperity at all, it's a meme designed for consumption by Americans and fans of the Chicago school, not even the UDI repeats it much anymore.

See
Chile was poorer than most of South America during Pinochet's government.

Yeah and the socialist party isn't doing a good job of that either considering how much my Aunt complains.

They ignore the fact that Pinochet was less brutal and more humane than literally every leftists dictator or government of the 20th century.

If you want to learn how to really stop poverty from happening in Chile (and in every other country) then you should read this book:

ia802709.us.archive.org/27/items/GottfriedFederManifestoForTheAbolitionOfInterestSlavery1919/Gottfried Feder - Manifesto for the Abolition of Interest-Slavery (1919).pdf

that talks about how to set up a socialist government that is also nationalist (which is very different from setting up an "international socialist" government).

Hello Margaret. Did you raise from the grave?

Even using the retarded measure of GDP per capita, it wasn't, as in . Yes, even in 1982.

>bad ruler
>fixed a all time low wages, all tiem high inflation and free falling GDP in a matter of 5 years
Yeah a helicopter ride for youI know what a failure, not completely cleaning up the mess he was left with. Look at him and his skyrocketing GDP per capita at the end of his term even growing faster than south America as a whole, but it was still under until 92 so he is a failure. Kill yourself retard

>Allende causes this
>pinochet visibility starts reversing the trend
>See what Pino did to the economy
Please kill yourself

If Pinochet did such a bad job, then how come Chile is the least horrible country in South America?

How did Allende managed to win the elections in the first place? Was the left usually that strong in Chile?
At least Perón destroyed all posibility of left here (I hope Kirchners were a momentary anomaly). How can Chile still have a socialist party after Pinochet when he was by far more reckless with them???

South americans are bread and circus voters

LMAO

>hating on based Jeb!

Do you have no soul?

>People actually discussing Dictadura with Americans

???? Unless they have white guilt why would they disagree with it? I dont feel sorry for la campaña del desierto because it made my country bigger. Why should burgers feel guilty over something that benefited their country?? You cant blame the winners of the war for considering your villains as their herpes m8. The only ones to blame for what happened in the 70s are us

that's a very cheap way of describing politics in SA, specially during the cold war, they were and far more complex. And even if you are right, it happens in every single country on earth nowadays.

we left because we were scared the people would try to vote in a allende type pol again...and they kind of did...

were aware of national socialism you fucking cave man

Wasn't Peron a mistake though?
Also South Americans seems drawn to collectivist cuckery for some reason. Every time I've spoken to one, they seemed appalled that I was self employed instead of being a wagecuck.

I don't want to enter bizarro territory to explain it, bit I think you've never truly left the communalist mindset with its equalization envy, which has pretty much disappeared in England in the 11th century if it was ever there.

>The only ones to blame for what happened in the 70s are us
probably in Argentina it was almost all our fault, because Isabelita right wing government wasn't percieved as a threat, but that's not Chile's case. USA was heavily involved in the coup and that's a fact. Doesn't mean Allende wasn't a piece of shit tho.

>Pinochet literally embezzled funds you ignorant fuck
Who cares? He killed a bunch of communists.

you are anti intellectual and no nothing about macro

The USA definetively had a part in all of our dictatorships. I never said they didn't. But when a state infiltrates and influences another there's a populace and government that let it happen. And that was our fault

That being said, Americans did it with the intention of expanding their influence and power so you can't really blame them. If someone came to me with a button that said "Nuke India but Argentina will become first world" I'd press it in a fucking heartbeat. You can't blame a person for putting their country's interests behind those of any other

too much

>Wasn't Peron a mistake though?
He was a man of his era, WWII and postwar times, can't say he was a mistake because what was the alternative? Original Peronism isn't collectivism, It's more like a 'third position' akin to fascism with catholic roots.
What I was referring to is his third goverment when he returned here in old age, that's when he started pursuing communists with clandestine forces (AAA), something new in the region and related to what Pinochet did years later in Chile.