How do no name terrorists know how to fly 747s ?

It's a drone.

youtube.com/watch?v=9rsMG2hHsLo

I have played Tiger Woods golf so why am I not a professional golfer?

they literally lived in a Saudi Arabian princes house in Florida while they trained. Read the pages man.

imdb.com/title/tt3300542/

Because they were train by the CIA.

Why would I care about why hamburgers died. A dead hamburger is always funny to me

user it was a 757

Criminal elements of the United States government, including neoconservatives like Paul Wolfowitz, harbored terrorists to create a "new Pearl Harbor" so that we could re-invade Iraq. Using CIA-backed Saudi Arabians, we provided training and made sure that all methods of stopping them failed. Israel knew about this plan due to illegally acquired intelligence through phone-tapping. Mossad sent warnings to George W. Bush as late as July, and all went unheaded. As soon as the towers were struck, the state-run news outlets already knew Osama bin Laden was behind the attacks. He was also used to take down the Soviet Union.

Hard to believe something as harmless as MFS could be that deadly

The same way we all do.

Flight simulator 2007.

Geez, do we have to go through this again? The Saudis trained them and support Hillary too. Why is this so hard to understand?

>MFS
>posts x-plane
fag

Who is this trollop, based Medpak?

1) the terrorists all had flight training beforehand

2) you can actually learn how to fly a plane from playing simulators. there's been a few cases where people have successfully taken over a plane from incapacitated pilots and landed them because of their knowledge gained from flight simulator

3)>a
>fucking
>union jack

Friendly reminder that JEB was governor of Florida while the terrorists were taking flight lessons and he did not order any inquiry.

Not much to learn when they could skip the lessons regarding landing.

i get they had flight training, but hitting the buildings perfectly like that just seems too difficult

911 redpill in 22 minutes

youtube.com/watch?v=cQr-hPuGiQQ

wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it

>How do no name terrorists know how to fly 747s?

Super important: guys with evidently no navigation training or instrument rating, who initially took over piloting hundreds of miles away, somehow targeted the planes dead-on to the buildings they wanted to hit.

Did they have enough instrument training to even have those skills?

>reminder that JEB was governor of Florida
damn that must have been a shitshow during his tenure

They needed to keep it in the air. thats it. a ten year old could do it

>747s would have cut the towers in two upon impact

Bull fucking shit

They didn't. Why do you think they crashed?

How did a few dozen towel heads in a cave plan and execute an attack on US soil when the Soviet Union couldn't in 70 years of Cold War?

>thinking that flying is hard.

The hard parts are landings and takeoffs. Neither of which they had to do.

>Saudis
Nice try KIKE

how did Taliban and Al Qaeda fight off the Allies (NATO) for more than 15 years while the Nazis couldn't in 5?

747s are big planes

Because Soviets weren't retarded enough to get tricked into thinking they will get a bunch of virgin pussy in the afterlife, friend

How did a CNN reporter with his little camera crew manage to interview Bin Laden some months before 911 when the entire CIA and FBI had been "looking" for him for over a decade?

youtube.com/watch?v=lLHVQUTrgvM

W was in Florida at the time, reading Pet Goat.

Saudi prince had training home in Florida.

Jeb governor of Florida.

Bush's have long-term friendly relationship with Saudis.

The Saudis wanted to get back at Saddam for the 1991 Gulf War.

A pattern?

i need that underwater pressure gif in reverse
badly

a 747 wouldn't have slit that tower in two the hole would just be bigger, a 777 is much faster and has a higher operating way so these stats are even more retarded

I'll have to take your word for it since you cut off the most important row in that table and it therefore provides no information :^{ P

No, no, no. Instrument navigation using transponders only to guide it from the hijack point back to NYC and DC. That's not easy for first timers.

Because it hasn't been all out war. We could level the entire middle east if we wanted to. This is a war being fought while we stay comfy at home.

wtf when did this happen?

for you

All the evidence points to the Mossad but you fucking JIDF kikes point to the Saudis to create confusion.

Same with the more wacky theories involving micro-nukes, hologram planes and other nonsense, all meant to discredit those who know about the real conspiracy.

Misdirection, the magician's oldest trick.

for you

Hue Hue Hue
Why did Israel have the Mossad filming their 9/11 event assbite?

Leveled it, conquered it, turned it into a territory, built an economy on it, 51-55th states

this, based evita-bro

That literally supports the "Israel did it" theory asswipe.

They overstayed their visas then went to sims.

Which one? Here is the top half

By learning how to fly?
911myths.com/index.php?title=The_Hijackers

Three possible ways

1. Given that it was in flight, they could have visually learned what they needed with any Flight Simulator game
2. They studied via books (you know, those things with information on the pages)
3. They asked the pilots before killing them

That's incorrect.

What are you talking about? The terrorists WERE the planes

>It's even been reported that Mohammed Atta never took the lessons on how to take off or land a plane.
So they each attended ~1 lesson? I was a student pilot, and I know that instructors will let you do touch and gos within the first few hours (maybe the second session).

I'll put up A380 for shits and giggles

>tfw almost able to read the article without assistance
>feels good man

you dont just "steer" a 747. It isnt that simple and there are other safety measures in place to prevent things exactly like 9/11. Things the hijackers would have no idea how to accomplish, especially in mid air

youtube.com/watch?v=IXA-enq65ng

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For the WTC to collapse, only one or two floors had to lose the strength in the trusses or their connections to the core/outer walls. On 9/11 this occurred due to fire heating the unprotected steel. In a scenario involving a 747 it would occur from the sheer size of the plane severing a large amount of the exterior columns and then hitting the inner core.
I think such an impact would have caused a total collapse immediately after impact.

Have you ever driven a boat? It's the same shit, you make a heading and keep it on that heading. If you study for a bit you can definitely do it.

Pilots only get paid to taxi, take off and land.

90% of the jet fuel was consumed in the fireball of the initial blast. The official NIST assessment was that the building fell due to office fires.

Literally impossible.
Fuck off.

The jet fuel burned off very quickly, but even so the explosion blew off the foam fireproofing and ignited contents in the building. Paper, furniture, electronics, etc.
Those are the fires that burned uncontrolled and impinged on unprotected trusses and structural members.

Don't tell me to fuck off when you're foolishly just thinking the only thing burning was fuel. Or that when you think a 707, assumed to be at cruising speed/ landing approach, is the same as a 767 being flown at full speed.

obvious shill ------>

Your article gives us the answer

you tried

nigger, those fires burned for months under each rubble pile INCLUDING WTC 7 WHICH WASN'T HIT BY A PLANE AND WAS BARELY ON FIRE

They weren't no name terrorists

hmm i wounder why a 747 would do more damage

They didn't
that's why they all crashed

Sounds dodgey. So bush didn't know at all? Where's the mossad proof? Curious

They went to Embry Riddle, which is like Florida's best college since Full Sail is a scam and no one cares about the others besides football teams.

It's literally impossible for office fires to burn down a stee-beamed building. 911 is THE ONLY TIME IN HISTORY this happened, including WTC7 which wasn't even hit.

Almost the same operating weight than a 747 and the fuel capacity is cropped off.
What's your fucking point?

Yes. There was still fires long after that day.
It was like a massive garbage dump fire where the flames were deeply rooted. On the surface the only signs were smoke until the burning section was uncovered. It doesn't matter that WTC 7 wasn't hit by a plane. And it was on fire. The estimate was a good 20 or so floors were burning and the sprinkler system was severed. That, combined with the damage sustained by the collapses of 1 and 2 led to a building that was damaged and burning unchecked for hours.

Of course Bush fucking knew.
He organized it with Netanyahu and his daddy's Iran-Contra neocon friends.

youtube.com/watch?v=UoB80Yk9NYg

same way i learned to fly sr71's...

Remote control

Bush knew an attack was coming but he didn't know it would happen on September 11th. Most of the planning was done by globalists who were already in power during the Clinton administration.

As for the Mossad connection, many spy rings were busted in the late 90s and early 2000s. A government-backed Israeli company (which handled billing for most telephone companies) was found to be monitoring government communications. I was mistaken and they actually warned as late as August about the September attacks articles.latimes.com/2001/sep/20/news/mn-47840

this.

daily reminder the twin towers were poorly designed and the city had discussed in the past what to do with them and how to get rid of them

who done it or how it happened doesnt matter

the only thing that matters is these buildings were poorly designed and wouldve eventually fell on their own in decades to come

>It's literally impossible for office fires to burn down a steel-beamed building
Perhaps a fire bringing down a building like that is unprecedented. But it seems you've forgotten the two planes that slammed into the buildings, destroyed fireproofing that would protect the beams, and caused significant structural damage. Even if the building was "designed to survive a plane crashing into it", there's only so much stress a design can take. Also dishonest to compare the Twin Towers to other buildings because they were constructed in a fairly rare way. Definitely not the traditional steel skeleton you could associate with the Empire State Building, for example.

You do know 777s are smaller right?

>Perhaps a fire bringing down a building like that is unprecedented. But it seems you've forgotten the two planes that slammed into the buildings, destroyed fireproofing that would protect the beams, and caused significant structural damage.
It doesn't matter, with the jet fuel gone there shouldn't have been enough heat to melt the beams.

Also, it doesn't explain WTC7 which also had a steel structure and wasn't impacted by a plane.

>Max capacity: 868
Jesus

I've never seen a more bluepilled thread like this in the history of 4chaim.

This isn't zuckbook. Some of you are alright. The rest of you have to go back.

man you guys are retarded you actually think no planes struck the towers lol

Same reason why they were holding up lighters and laughing giving each other high fives ....did you not see the interview with the little old lady who reported those dumbass kikes?

I live in florid a near the airport he took lessons at. What everyone says is that he didn't want to learn how to land the planes.

I have posted three detailed videos and none of them claim the planes didn't hit the buildings.

I wouldn't say they were poorly designed. Even though they did collapse, they still remained standing for over an hour and allowed those under the impact zones to escape. In hindsight, the design was only ever going to entirely collapse but nobody every thought that kind of damage would ever happen.

It's a fucking monster

I wasn't even 777s that were crashed into the towers. They were 767-200s.

cough ... cough

9-1-1 callers said the wingers were teetering back and forth. they wernt that good of pilots but they could fly a plane learning from a flight simulator. I hate when someone tries to put something retarded in 911 conspiracies. As alex jones put it "a terd in the punch bowl"

I've only ever been on a 737, the 747 is mindblowing to me.

Steel expands at around 1,000F. One it expands it loses strength and in the case of a floor truss- falls onto the one below it. Those temperatures are attainable in a regular fire fueled by whatever was in the building.

>it doesn't explain WTC7 which also had a steel structure and wasn't impacted by a plane.
Because two 110 story buildings fell on/ right near it, caused damage on several floors, and cut off the ability for the sprinkler system to try to contain the fires. It was a damaged building and burning without anyone trying to stop it. The FDNY knew there was a chance it would collapse and so they cut their losses and pulled everyone away from it.

It crashed because they didn't.

It just gets worse and worse

Don't cut yourself on that edge

not really. there are only two things in place that would even remotely complicate taking direct control of a Boeing airplane. one is autopilot which has a clearly labeled master arm toggle, and the other is EFCS which only disallows certain bank/pitch angles at certain speeds. The EFCS envelope protection can be disabled by triggering or mimicking an aircraft system fault. all you would have to do is set an engine to idle-cutoff in flight, and envelope protection would shut down.

it's not rocket science, i've no doubt someone with a little familiarity with that flight deck and some basic systems knowledge could pull it off

those videos are fake as shit you know that right ? how the fuck can it surpass it maximum rated speed at sea level where the air is 130 times thicker you tard

and cutting through the building like road runner ....yeah right

All the mega planes are huge. I wonder if there will be an even bigger model that comes out

they weren't traveling faster than Vne, and even if they were, manufacturing standards require all Boeing aircraft to be engineered at 1.5X max stress rating. in most cases, the aircraft will make it to 1.7X

you'll NEVER get a good answer for the velocity problem

those aircraft were enhanced USAF 737s painted to look like commercial jets

explain why the news reported building 7 collapsing "into its own footprint" 15 minutes before it actually did ?

fucking future news pre-cog minority report level shit

Microsoft flight simulator and US government training exercises.

Because they were told "It was going to collapse" and took that as "It collapsed".
Things were chaotic that day and tons of stuff was being reported. Stuff about up to ten hijacked planes, bombs going off in the Towers, Palestinians claiming responsibility, etc.

no plane hit the pentagon, and if you think so, show me the footage. i'll be waiting...

But they're kinda frail so they disintegrate on impact when flying at speeds like that.

still doesn't explain why it didn't slow down on account of the building it was smashing into, and how it made a road runner cutout in the building.

In the crash video where the jet hits a concrete side of a bridge, it only leaves paint damage on the bridge, and that's concrete not structural steel.

thats why they followed te hudson using vfr.

its not that fucking hard to fly a plane. aelerons, elevators, rudder, throttle, flaps. its pretty damn straight forward. literal niggers from africa do it every day.

many buildings at the base of the towers were heavily damaged and partially collapsed. it's called shitty reporting and/or confusion.
there are home videos of people saying tower 2 was about to collapse 30 mins or so before it actually did, are they psychics/Illuminati too?

Here's some more context as to why the World Trade Center was targeted.
slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2001/12/the_mosque_to_commerce.html

the world trade center was a mock up of Mecca and the towers represented minarets. The biggest blasphemy against Islam on earth.

wat.

im saying they had assistance or the planes were remote controlled

Aloha Snakbar!

>there are home videos of people saying tower 2 was about to collapse 30 mins or so before it actually did

post one vid plz

One thing I never actually knew lads: how did they take control of the planes? None of them had firearms did they?

and they replaced it.....with another mosque

Doesn't explain why...

On the 1993 WTC attack the fires raged for hours and nothing happened.

Never before in history a steel-beamed building had fallen to office fires yet 3 did on 911.

The buildings collapsed almost at free-fall speed with no resistance on a straight line. Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth has explained this is impossible short of a controlled demolition.

The 911 Commission never addressed the WTC7 collapse

The 911 Commission never released the full NIST evaluation of the causes of the collapse

The BBC reported the fall of WTC7 before it happened with the building standing in the background

The 911 Commission never addressed the US air force exercises being conducted that day "simulating hijacked planes" which hindered response times

The 911 commission never addressed the 140 MOSSAD SPIES arrested in the weeks leading up to and during 911.

The 911 commission never addressed the fact that the hijackers were spotted by the FBI going into Jack Abramoff's casino boats (Bush insider)

well, if you knew anything about the properties of building materials instead of just listening to so called "structural engineers" on youtube, that would make perfect sense. reinforced concrete is dense as fuck.

Makes sense.
They were beautiful buildings. From afar they were extremely simple looking, but when you get close you saw the elaborate design, arabesque patterns, and well maintained interiors. I'll never forget the one time I was lucky enough to visit them in 2001 just a few months before.
I really do wish they were just rebuilt to look the same but with a stronger structure.

there's a whole documentary comprised of people's home videos. go find it. there are plenty of examples within. also plenty of examples of the amount of confusion and erroneous reporting on behalf of both civilians and news crew

>thats why they followed te hudson using vfr.

Some of the flights were hijacked over land though. How would they see the Hudson from so far away?

Also there is no Hudson in DC.

They built a large open air mosque for the Flight 93 Memorial

crescentofbetrayal.com/

So let me get this right, according to you they "were told it was going to collapse" so they just went ahead, with a person on scene who could visually confirm a 47 story building collapse with ease, to announce that the building has collapsed "into its own footprint" ..........and then 15 minutes later it collapses into its own footprint ....

The Palestinian comment made it too obvious, reminded me of the kikes caught on 9/11 who were saying " we're your ally its the Palestinians that are the problem" minutes after 9/11 went down.

>Muslims attacking other muslims
Now that makes sense and doesn't surprise me one bit

this is complete WTFFF territory

Can't be made strong enough to withstand thermite.

>Never before in history a steel-beamed building had fallen

Have any other buildings been built like the twin towers?
Do you understand the question?

they didnt practice landing very well

youtube.com/watch?v=ltP2t9nq9fI

Thermite is created by shearing steel

Or 1 attended the lessons and taught the others how

Witness from Hillary's 9/11 fall speaks out.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=mS7jfXzx0uI

>plug in airport code. its three letters.
>gimble in

nothing to it man. like 3 lessons max. its designed to be easy so pilots are less likely to fuck up while tired and/or stressed

Says the leaf without proof.

"""""Box cutters""""""

Isn't that crazy?

lel

What if the Saudis or Israelis just wanted the hijackers in the cockpit for show? And so they could name Mohammed Atta the next day "we found his passport on the street in NYC"

The Saudis or Israelis installed remote control electronics in those flights in advance, and the planes were remotely piloted by someone who knew how to use the navigation instruments?

The 1993 bombing did not hard the structural members. The blast didn't even occur under WTC 1 and 2, the bomb went off under the Marriott Hotel next to the Towers. The only real damage was smoke damage in the Towers and reinforcements needed in the spaces under the complex.

That free fall speed thing is a bunch of nonsense and has been debunked plenty of times. If you're ignoring that, or believing inaccurate reporting (In a day full of reporting mistakes and speculation) is evidence of some grand plot then you are being willfully ignorant.

The NIST reports are available online and were concluded/updated around 2008. Considering the Commission's Final Report came out in 2004, it makes sense they were not included. As for the rest it's a bunch of baseless conspiracies and coincidences. Call me a shill/sheep for saying that if you want, but it's true. History is full of poor timing and previously made choices all coming to fruition during one event.

What are you talking about? This was a perfect example of a perpendicular landing, usually they are done with the ground.

Do you even aviation?

most likely. why have stupid sand niggers fuck up your well laid plans

And didn't Rumsfeld slip and say Flight 93 was shot down, not kamikazeed by the passengers "rolling" into the cockpit? If the planes were remotely piloted, not even the hijackers could crash them, so a shoot down would be the only choice to stop the plane.

And fake bombs, the planes themselves weren't even at max capacity either

it's not fucking rocket science

any neckbeard in his mom's basement could learn in a couple weeks

there were planes on the way to take it down. upon hearing it crashed he probly just made the assumption

>Rumsfeld

he was on the lawn of the pentagon picking up pieces of wreckage. kekekek

With military precision? Got me.

Get on google earth flight simulator and try to accurately hit something.

Box cutters, pepper spray, and fake bombs.
Plane hijackings had happened in the past but they always ended up either going back to the airport of just detonating a bomb midair. The people on board thought they would just sit still and survive.

>erroneous reporting on behalf of both civilians and news crew

give 2 examples

holy shit, a thousand THISes

The wingspan on a 747 is wider than the buildings by a few feet, and you can see even the 737's wings sheared right through the outer framework.

They would have come down way faster at the least.

They were 767s, and the pilot hijackers were all experienced commercial pilots before they became Al Qaeda operatives.

The guys who were taking flight lessons were the "muscle" hijackers. They took lessons just to get a little bit of experience flying, just in case the pilot hijacker on their team became incapacitated.

People like to dismiss Al Qaeda as a bunch of goatfuckers living in caves. And that's probably true for a large number of them. But the guys who did 9/11 were their equivalent of special forces.

Western special forces are comprised of extremely high caliber individuals. Multi-lingual, graduate level education, trained in numerous technical disciplines.

Very much the same for the 9-11 hijackers. Most of them spoke multiple languages, most of them had college degrees, the pilots were all experienced aviators.

In fact, if you look at it from that perspective, 9-11 is probably one of the most spectacularly successful special operations missions in history. Even they didn't expect to succeed as much as they did.

*767, not 737

>Air Force simulates exercise involving hijacked planes on 911
>Interception patrol attempting to shoot down the Pentagon plane purposefully misled towards the Atlantic
>Traffic controller has to shout "Could you turn off the simulated planes????" and keeps being disregarded
>Some years later London police is conducting a simulation involving bombs on the public transport system when that exact scenario happens that day
>Just a coincidence goy

youtube.com/watch?v=-Laaq44SDgg

how about looking up the documentary instead of expecting everyone who has a differing view to spoon feed you?

you probably wouldnt watch even if i did link it though, I imagine 90 mins is a tad bit longer than your attention span

A better question: what are the odds that WTC owner Larry Silverstein and his entire family all weren't there when it was attacked, a place where they all worked?

Not to mention WTC's design put all the weight of the building on the outsides of the buildings and in the core

fsx
/thread

>sheared right through the outer framework.

six million to one

Flying is the easy part, take off and land is the bitch of it. They didn't have to worry about either.

They flew the Boeing 757 and 767 models due to their knowledge in the cessna 172 and similar aircraft. All planes work of the same principals and have basic controls in common. This allowed for them to crash the aircraft into the WTC with less trouble than a completely inexperienced terrorist.

This ^, but the majority will still not believe in kek.

Another funny coincidence.
He had breakfast at the WTC everyday.
He had a doctor's appointment on 911.
His appointment fell and he "decided to go for a walk through NYC" instead of going to work.

Just a coincidence goy.

What old Lucky Larry doing these days?

An even better question, what are the odds that someone who think Larry Silverstein was the owner of the WTC, rather than the principal leaseholder, has anything of merit to say on this matter?

-Initial reports saying it was a small plane
-People saying there was another explosion in WTC 1, when in reality it was WTC 2 being hit by a plane. People being at angles where they could not see both buildings
-News reporters saying the PLO claimed responsibility for the attacks (This was quickly denied, and the attacks condemned, by the PLO)
-Reports of a third aircraft coming towards NYC
-Reporting of car-bombing at a US Embassy
-New reporters saying the collapse of WTC 2 was "Something falling off the roof/ a partial collapse"
-The reports about WTC 7

There was a lot of stuff reported that day by witnesses and reporters that never happened or was just people not realizing what they saw.

More than 1:9000

didn't you know he is besties with netanyahu?

Mostly the core f,am.

Hardcore shilling going on in here, the kikes should put their effort into another 9/11

The whole story is ludicrous but entertaining as hell

man he's so lucky haha wish i was him

You are wasting that beautiful life.
You need to take a deep breath and evaluate what you actually believe.

Frankly, you've allowed yourself to become the human version of a pop-up ad.

>le flimsy building shill job

i don't think so kike!

But it takes years of flight practice to be able to fly a passenger jet. Flying a small piper aztec or cessna (something people learn how to fly in) is nothing like a 747.

and these are, in your opinion, on the same level of reporting a 45 story buildings collapse when it didn't happen ?

>People saying there was another explosion in WTC 1, when in reality it was WTC 2 being hit by a plane.

I heard there were even reports that the fires on 1st Street were moderate but only turned out to be minimum.....checkmate goy

military intel suggested that an attack was coming. no big deal though, we wanted an excuse to be in the middle east.
past experience and logic dictated that the trade center was a likely target. past experience also told them that attacks on the trade center werent a big deal.

he wasnt there for exactly the reason you think he wasn't, but nobody had expected an attack like the one we recieved.

in short, it WAS allowed to happen which more or less makes it an inside job, but it happened exactly as we saw it on TV

Pretty much entirely the core. The only thing the columns did, besides act as the exterior wall, was give anchor points for the floor trusses. As well as give flexibility for the building to move in winds.

1. they weren't 747s
B. a few of them had some pilot training
III. startup and taking off/landing are the hardest parts, once airborne anyone with basic training could fly one of those jets

Over half of them? In german flight school >>

I'm pretty sure the rebuilding costs were more than what he got in insurance.

No, it takes years of experience to fly a large aircraft well and do it under various stressful scenarios. it takes years of experience to learn the proper situational awareness and instinct to be a safe airline pilot.

it does not require years of experience to step into a flight deck and crash an airplane. i have just over 250hrs of flight time logged. i am considered very inexperienced by most pilot's standards. but despite that' i have no doubt i could crash an airliner if i had the intent

This has pretty much always been my opinion too, "it" was allowed to happen but they didn't really know what 'it' was.

Because they had been training on the basics of piloting for months while Bush was on vacation at his ranch the entire first year of his presidency, ignoring security briefings like "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Within the United States" and whatnot.

Are those people Fire Chiefs, Marshals, or Structural Engineers?
If not, then anything they said don't have much meaning. Those in charge said WTC 7 was a lost cause and posed a collapse risk, they evacuated and pulled everyone away. At the announcement telling people to leave the area because the building could collapse, some mistook this as meaning it already collapsed. There's a video of a new crew on the ground getting caught in a mini stampede because people thought WTC 7 already came down. When in reality it was still standing.

As said before, you're really grasping at straws if you think every single thing reported or said that day, especially by regular people on the street or anchors saying whatever they were told, was factual or part of some planned script.

The hijackers didn't take off nor did they land. There isn't much to the rest of the flight

This demonstrates how the core was closer to the side of the building that Flight 175 hit, which possibly explains why the south tower (the lower building in the picture) went down faster despite being hit later than the north.

As you said, the South Tower was hit in a more integral spot. But also at a higher speed, more of an angle, and at a lower point which meant the damage area had to support more weight.
Just another tragedy of the day was that one of the stairwells survived to g above the impact zone but the smoke prevented people from finding it. Only two firefighters made it up to that point and the building collapsed before they could make use of the intact stairway to get more people down.

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With Saudi and Israeli funding

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Link please.

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This is why you're on Cred Forums and not at Harvard.

Delete your post. NOW

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youtu.be/PcKlPhFIE7w?t=5m20s

Bigger planes are actually much easier to fly than small planes. Ask any pilot

>Moti Shniberg
>this is actually real

IT KEEPS HAPPENING

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You're privy to so much more information than Trump could ever hope to get his hands on that day.

Why do you take his opinion as evidence instead of forming your own from facts?

yes and no. it's a lot more difficult to get yourself out of harry situations in airliners. things are happening much faster, and you're far less maneuverable than you are in a little plane. that's why we all start out in little single engine trainers. they're more forgiving if you fuck it up.

What if their plan was to just hijack the planes and make demands, but they didn't fly so good?

4224 Escondito Circle, Sarasota FL for anyone who wants to go deeper :^)

>hijackers license plates on neighborhood security visitor logs
>flight school a few miles away
>saudi family flees the country 1 week before 9/11
>Bush was in Sarasota on 9/11

Kinda like how Bush Sr. was in Dallas the day JFK got shot...

If the (((alleged))) hijackers would have done as you say, (((they))) couldn't have gotten rid of the missing $2.3 Trillion from the Pentagon, MCI Worldcom and Enron would have been a 'thing', no Afghanistan opium, no Iraq, and a disappointed Isn'treal.

literally a flag of edges

THEY BE PILOTS N SHIT

>Kinda like how Bush Sr. was in Dallas the day JFK got shot...

and in manhattan on the morning of 9/11. really makes me think...

Planes? What planes?

What am I watching

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You have footage of Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon, or are you trying to build a strawman argument and change the subject?

That security cam footage? It's hardly convincing. That's the only one I've seen of the Pentagon. Would be happy to watch others.

You are now on an FBI watch list.

Steel beams melting seafood.

I've seen those 5 frames, hundreds of times, I still don't know what hit the Pentagon.

You're retarded. A 767 is much less responsive and much harder to recover from a stall than something like a C172 or a Mooney. The chance of an amateur recovering from an extended steep dive in a 767 without assistance is extremely slim. We're not talking about dialing in autopilot and cruising. The way the second plane hit the tower was straight out of a bad movie. There's no way that was flown by hand by some towel head that had very limited flight training. His own instructor said that he sucked at flying.

nigga, i'm an aviator, gun owner, Cred Forums browser, and in the basket of deplorables. not only am I on at least one watch list, but my address is public domain.

rip crabby

>But it takes years of flight practice to be able to fly a passenger jet
Most of that is because you want 100% competency under any conceivable scenario, and to satisfy the regulators and passengers
A middle schooler could probably fly a jet into a target that huge with 5 minutes practice in a sim

Did he stall when he went into the dive?

Don't you usually stall when you angle the plane upwards?

no, and no. you can stall an aircraft at any speed or angle of attack.

however, neither aircraft had to go through any advanced maneuver to hit the buildings. I'm not sure what he's on about. i already talked about "safety measures" and how they wouldnt preven what happened in a previous post

BC the planes were not 757s but military drones or missles remotely controlled by AWACS to hit the WTC and the Pentagon. The video footage was faked beforehand. Cantor Fitzgerald and other brokerage firms that handled billions worth of securities were targeted as well as the pentagon budget analyst office to cover up massive financial crimes by destroying evidence and killing witnesses. Nuclear SADMs (special atomic demolition munitions) vaporized much of the WTC which explains the super high tritium levels in the vicinity as well as the underground fires and molten hotspots underground that lasted for months. The "towers of light" art exhibit was used to conceal the blue glow of ionized air from residual radiation.The tale of Flight 93, the passengers and phone calls were part of a prepared fake cover story brought out when the drone that was to hit WTC7 failed to reach its target. The supposed terrorists mission was to create a scene everywhere they went and leave evidence and witnesses to corroborate the contrived narrative of a radical Islamic threat to justify invasion of Central Asia and the Middle East to secure energy pipeline routes and prop up the petrodollar scheme.

Exactly, user. And look at every terrorist attack they've put together in the fifteen years since. Paris is as sophisticated as it gets for them without a whole lot of (((help)))

The Bushes, the CIA (remember George Sr. used to head that agency), the Clintons and a few others, together with Saudi Arabia, pulled off 9/11. Jews knew, whether through being complicit or through espionage, and either said nothing or were ignored. Their role is the only part I'm not 100% sure of.

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holy shit, what's it like to live in constant fear of the evil gubment?

Fuck Off.

You can include Da Jooz all you want; I despise them, I don't care. But don't you fucking come in here and say mudslimes weren't part of it, because that's derailing bullshit. And guess what, BOTH Jews and muslims suck shit. Semitics, not even once!

The only thing worse is a white traitor. The entire Bush family and the Clintons should be drawn and quartered.

before september 11th, if you had told me that both twin towers would fall and only ONE other building next to them would fall due to the towers coming down, I'd call you crazy.

You lack of logic makes me think you are a damned fool.

Please KYS

Time to get paid, blow up like the World Trade

That's the cleanest controlled demo I've ever seen

>3000 dead
>clean

The sort of funny option nobody ever seems to consider is that these buildings were really all cheap shit, badly done construction. How much can we bet that all sorts of short-cuts and payoffs took place during their construction? This shit still happens--look at the Millenium Tower in SF--it's sinking into the landfill, more than a foot down now. And tilted. Corruption.

But really though, I visited the Twin Towers back in the 90s and found them to be incredibly drab and tacky. They did look and feel cheap. Nobody ever thought they'd be tested so hard, though--back then nobody even knew NYC had earthquakes.

I wouldn't entirely discount this small part of the cause for them collapsing--the towers, I mean. Seven I could totally see being a quickie demolition, taking advantage of the situation to get rid of an eyesore they didn't want anyway.

He only needed to learn how to crash

Yep

Muslims are scum but there's more evidence linking the Mossad with 911 than the Saudis.
Hell, the Israeli government-owned ZIM corporation vacated its offices on 911 a month before breaking the lease and having to pay a penalty for it. The evidence is just overwhelming.

The operation was conducted to topple Saddam Hussein which was a secular dictator and an enemy of Israel, with the ultimate goal (unsuccessful because of public opposition) of invading Iran as well.

building demos rely on gravity. don't be so naive.

ya fuckin nailed it

have this rare pepe

It's it funny that all 3 buildings that fell had the same owner.

How (un)lucky for Larry Silverstein.

What a fascinating coincidence

jumbo jets fly in to buildings

(you) no way those buildings fell down from that

IDIOT

The reason these buildings came down is because (((they))) started to look evil. When you are blowing up innocent people in another country to the point that country starts forming factions to get you out of its country, you are the terrorists. The controlled demolition of these buildings and the fact they forced people to stay inside to the point many jumped to their deaths shows you exactly what happened.

Educate yourself pleb.

I lived it. no further education needed.

>I lived it.

Post proofs.

They didn't. You can see clearly they crashed.

>I WAS THERE I SWEAR

> I KNEW ONE OF THE SANDY HOOK KIDS I SWEAR

> LE SAUDIS DID IT XDDDDD

post proofs??

google 9-11-01

dumb F-U-C-K

why green text for dumb shit?

>Swiss education

You claimed you lived it.

Prove your claim pleb.

what proof are you looking for? you do have internet, right?

differential pressure

what proof are you looking for , rope smoker?

>I lived it.

Prove it.

what proof are you looking for? Are you 11 years old or something?

Fucking idiot, atta was a pilot who flew drugs in and out of countries, he knew how to fly, read the following article

madcowprod.com/2003/11/13/atta-dekkers-the-venice-flying-circus/

youtube.com/watch?v=jNsOmWhr2cg

WATCH THIS SHIT.

Pretty simple.

You claimed "I lived it".

Post proofs that you "lived it".

Post whatever evidence you feel is appropriate to support your claim.

in a cubicle and new on the job
know 2 planes have hit so far and decided to turn radio on once I heard about the 2nd plane
client calls me and I answer phone because i'm new and I try no to slack off like my co-workers
she is pissed off and is looking for my company's closest store to resolve her issue
I ask her location and she says "mid-town..madison ave heading down town"
I just hear on the radio as I'm looking for a store, " downtown is being evacuated"
I say "turn around and head up town. down town is being evacuated"
she says " mother fucker, you suck, I'm running out of time to get this done and I've got a flight to catch later.
I say "ma'am I don't you'll be flying tonight"

customer calls

...and its your mom
she says come down town and eat my ass out one more time since it's then end of the world
I cum in your mom's puss but I think its her asshole because your mom's ass and pussy smells the same
15 years later and your dumb ass is on Cred Forums

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got you fucker

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Shut it down!

Got into flightdeck.

Knife to captains throat

Transponder turned off from ta/ra

Told him to put it into the tower.

Simple.

T: airbus rated tre training captain

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You have to let all the squibs finish to get a more accurate image of the plane impact.

If WTC 7 or the Twin towers where controlled demos where the explosion? Im not talking about the thuds people like to play in videos. Demos are extremely loud, you would hear it for miles

exactly

>safety measures in place to prevent things exactly like 9/11

Which is why 9/11 occurred, right? Idiot.

Not like that was hidden by anything else that happened that day.

The towers came down with a roar, so it'd be hard to distinguish any explosions so high up among the sound of of the steel and concrete ripping apart.

I don't know about 7, but as long as you're considering conspiracy there's always the thermite.

Architects and Engineer are a bunch of frauds, a vast majority of them don't have degrees in related fields to what they're trying to spin.

Go look at several of the videos yourself, if you think the towers collapsed at 9.22 seconds, you're simply wrong. They fell anywhere from 11 to 14 seconds depending on the tower. If architects and engineers are saying a 20% difference is "almost" then that really should be your clue to how retarded that group of architects and engineers are.

Plenty of steel beamed buildings have fallen from fires, I supposed you didn't bother to look any up. The 3 buildings in question on 9/11 were:

>Tube and tube design (towers 1 and 2)
>had an airplane fly into them at 500 mph (1 and 2)
>Had debris and shit fall on them from other buildings (wtc 7)
>were on fire for a good bit of time

If you want to compare apples to oranges, go right ahead.

You would reasonably think that demo explosions would, you know, occur BEFORE the collapse...not during?'

They would be heard before the building started to fall apart, and they were not.

The point is, he did a crazy dive and pulled up just in time to hit the building perfectly, causing the complete destruction of the building. One incorrect adjustment could have caused the plane to stall out, graze the corner, smash into any number of other objects or miss the building entirely. An amateur that sucked at flying a single engine GA aircraft would not have been able to pull that off with that kind of laser guided precision. That is ridiculous.

>They would be heard before the building started to fall apart, and they were not.

Incorrect

youtube.com/watch?v=yli-if4F0DY

youtube.com/watch?v=SVgYnVcPTzs

youtube.com/watch?v=xx5NudawJh0

There are more, if this is an issue you care about, YouTube it.

Look into Wolfowitz. He was heavily involved in the wolrd bank and was its president for a period. He also said America needed a new Pearl Harbor in 2000.

Personally I don't think Bush or the US government as a whole actively caused 9/11. Globalists don't operate like that, they are more subtle. They essentially provided Al-Qaeda a path to an attack the globalists knew they couldn't resist. I doubt even Al-Qaeda knew they were being influenced. That's how the globalists do things, they get other people to do their dirty work for them without even realizing it.

I've only seen the footage and it didn't look like some impossible dive.

The bank he pulls at the last second looks desperate, if he was such a pro he would have brought it in more cleanly like Atta.

In this video you can see that he achieved level flight perfectly after the dive with no assistance and very little time to spare. Absolutely no signs of corrections you would expect from am amateur..

youtube.com/watch?v=NpUKM0MFNaM

NIST said free fall, which means controlled demolition.
These people list buildings they claim to have designed that you can physically walk around in. Why aren't they sued?
Plenty of steel beamed buildings have fallen from fires? Name one.

This is ridiculous, both the light flashes and the separate explosions were reported by witnesses and can be distinguished in most videos.

this
I have the version they used.

I didn't say an impossible. I said it was a crazy maneuver for an amateur to pull off perfectly at 590 mph with absolutely none of the excess corrections you would expect from an amateur towel head that has never flown anything larger than a single-engine plane and even sucked at that. An amateur wouldn't have that kind of laser-guided precision while flying 590 mph. He literally had absolutely no time to think, yet perfectly adjusted the controls to strike the building exactly where it needed to be struck to completely destroy it.

The most challenging part about flying a plane is landing...

Also, they took flying lessons which caught FBI attention when they weren't interested in landing lessons. Seriously. FFS, learn how to history.

>It's literally impossible for office fires to burn down a stee-beamed building
Yes, but cram all that heat into offices, and all of a sudden the pressure makes it much, MUCH hotter than it is initially.