Well Cred Forums, care to retort?

Well Cred Forums, care to retort?

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The pastor is offering a more valuable service than the children.

Despite the rhetoric is bullshit, the churches should be taxed like every other organisation.

Well, that means taxing mosques and synagogues too. What are you, some kind of fucking racist?

Sorta. It allows individuals to benefit momentarily at the long term cost of everyone. It's like how payday loans offer a valuable service.

>Joel Osteen
>Church

Taxation is theft.

The church didn't force those kids to exist.

People should take responsibility for their lives, and that includes not having kids like a dumbfuck if you're dooming them to a live of poverty.

1) Separation of Church and State
2) Taxation comes with representation

Can't have both. Take your pick.

OP, I'd rather retort to you, since you're a retarded nigger; but you wouldn't understand any of it.

So is an engineer and CEO, the only difference is the engineer and CEO have to pay taxes.

What about burning the churches and killing the pastors?

>Churches should be taxed but get no say in politics

No, fuck off Hillary.

So should small companies not pay taxes anymore?

>non-citizens don't have to pay taxes
>no taxation without representation is part of official legal documentation
If the members of the church and the pastor are citizens they already have representation. Using your logic corporations and their owners shouldn't have to pay taxes because corporations can't vote.

SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION

DO YOU SEE THE LINK BETWEEN THESE TWO PILLARS OF AMERICAN PHILOSOPHY?

>modernized Christianity
Go traditional ordon't even bother, literally cucked: the religoon

The reason you don't tax fucking churches is because they can't lobby or vote. That is the separation of church and state

>its time to double tax donations

that money was ALREADY taxed faggot

Everyone should pay taxes, and then the faggots who abuse the system should be punished.

Any other questions Ahmed?

How about you retarded evangelicals quit
giving them money for doing jack shit which
they usually waste on drugs and gay hookers anyways.

Separation of church and state + no taxation without representation = no church taxes

This. American Christianity is just so damn vulgar, flashy and shallow, so noting of value will be lost.

So you say anybody but not the church and its members?
Thats a weird logic Ramirez

That's not a church, that's blasphemy.
This is a church.

A principality doesn't need to be legal doctrine to be an argument. The notion is based on principle. A corporate tax is different and encompasses everything involved in running a business. Taxation of church expenditures outside of actual church function? Go for it. Tax it. But you shouldn't tax the church for expenditures related to the service it is intended to provide on principle.

The churches should be sued for fraud. They are selling a product they can't can't prove exists.

How exactly would the church pay taxes?

A large portion of the wealth owned by the church is in cultural heritage, i.e. buildings, art.

Contributions to the church either go to the upkeep of their belonings or to charity.

So, you want the church to simply sell off their valuables?

They would have to reverse the ban on political campaign activity by charities and churches. Do you really want that to happen.

No, I agree that Christianity is a scam.

>They pay taxes.
AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
>I donated 1 million to charity so I wont have to pay 8 million in tax.

No taxation without representation

This desu, also those us style mega churches are freaky

your founding fathers were some wise lads.

the Catholic Church feeds millions, if you taxed the church you essentially be switching that money to an adminstrator instead. besides the church operates purely on donation

lol, what the fuck are you trying to start you bacon hating faggot?

I was pretty clear, you don't like it.

Yes, they are free organisation and has as much to lobby as NGO's and comapanies

When a democratic socialist politician has three houses and his voter base is a bunch of whiney white middle class people, but 1/3 kids live in poverty.

that dude made most of his money from his book series. he has given alot back compared to most in that wealth range. definatly dont like him though, he's in it for the wrong reasons.

also christ said their would alwas be poor/poverty. who are we to try and make him a liar?

organizations dont get taxed, businesses do. and if i get taxed on my income i dont like for it to be taxed again when i give it away.

>*have as much right.
sorry, on the phone

>I can't into math.

Fuck off.

This.
If we tax one we tax all religions.
Or else someone is going to have a field day with the establishment clause and Supreme Court

>has no clue about true American Christianity, blames all Christians for people who manipulate them

My pastor was talking about how Europe was bound to be cucked by Islam 3 years before the invasion happened.
>vulgar
>flashy
>shallow
No, I think prophetic fits the description.

2016. Still tipping as a reply. Get a new meme ffs christfags. It was funny a couple of years ago.

Maybe the children should get some fucking jobs then?

>lefties want to tax the church
>taxation without representation is theft
>give the church representation in government
>no more secular state
>lefties riot
>no more taxes for church
>lefties riot
>repeat the process

Can't tax one religious institution without taxing all of them.

Good luck convincing politicians in the hands of Jewish lobbyists it's time to tax the synagogues.

NGO's dont have to pay taxes in the US?

Vast majority of churches make very little money. I'm fine with taxing churches of a certain size though cause they are usually shit.

what the hell, is that a church? Looks like a sports stadium

Yeah, I'll retort. Your persuasion tactics are shitty but your reply rate is spectacular.

I would rather not give direct lobbying power to religious groups already, that defeats the purpose of separation of church and state.

Varg NO!

This is less about taxes and more about why dumb niggers need to stop funding multimillionaire pastors

The engineer and the CEO aren't as fundamental to keeping society running.

>blaming the church for poverty
Oh yeah, I totally forgot the church is in charge of the state...
>not pointing out how US senators make near 200k a year for """public service"""
>not pointing out how the president is supposed to make only 400k a year currently but takes home far more

It's time to use your already taxed money and put it to better use.

The only difference between the average run-of-the-mill pastor and a guy like Joel Osteen is their ability to speak pubicly. I think Osteen is a grade-A scumbag con artist, but I will admit that he's a tremendous public speaker. That's why he's able to fill up his stadium-sized church; people think every word that comes out of his mouth is pure gold.

you dont know anything

pick up a book

(((evangelism))) is profoundly jewish. that's why they love israel so much.

Its a appropriate question.
Here NGO's have to pay taxes, and depending on state also churches

Any idea why most of Catholic churches are white/gold/pinkish inside while Orthodoxies like more cold colors like blue?

>Cherrypicking: The Image

whats funny is that I KNOW some fedora redditor fag is smugly sharing this on his Facebook post and everyone will quietly cringe at him.

>I am so smart and have boiled down the vast array of reasons one would become a leader of a congregation to the reasons I personally could consider doing so
>I shall apply this generalization to all and pretend I somehow know jack shit about anything

I thought this was an 18+ board?

lmao

I'd say taxes should be paid only by those institutions that are making a hefty profit, and don't provide services to the community. (Shelters for American citizens, food banks, counseling, etc.)

It's historically the purpose of the church, but has been co-opted by government programs, thus negating the necessity of real charitable institutions on the local level.

The burden should be placed on those that can afford it and want to help.

How about not tax anyone and then everyone can live in mansions.

>tax churches a shit ton so only those who can afford mega churches and mansions for their pastors can survive
confirmed that atheists just want to kill religion
a real solution to the problem would be restrictions on church spending

I would agree if that wasnt the kind of church where John Hagee, the prominent ro israel pastor, preaches.

youtube.com/watch?v=f2WNK2J9GKA

>Tax places that live off of donations and give charity to the impoverished children

The church doesnt pay taxes
the pastor has does, they are required to pay income taxes on the money he receives.

Pastors can claim parsonage where they have an allowance that can't get taxed, but when they do this they can't claim deductibles

Or the flip side of it comes true, jewish and muslim lobbyists use their power to basically destroy the United States by buying out the politicians.

>eternal salvation
>momentarily
wew lad

Compared to Swedish Christianity? Which is none existent. Don't worry Sven, we're sending missionaries. ;)

>while 1 in 3 children live in poverty
Most of them are niggers,so why even bother?
prove me wrong
pro tip: you can't

Actually it's long-past time to tax them.

But not because of that OP. The Catholic church is one of the largest land-owners in the USA. They are able to buy and flip huge amounts of property and skip shitloads of taxes on it, thanks to loopholes carved out because they say "yeah but, when we're not being realtors, we say stuff about god!"

Your fault for being a heretic.

this is how delusional christfags are

This

Severely underrated post. Don't breed unless you have a net worth of $1 million minimum.

I'm a little torn. On one hand, I can see why they are not taxed, as it's part of the separation of church and state. On the other hand, charlatans will exploit the ever living hell out of that and it's really not fair to anyone.

I really believe most pastors get into the game for this. It always pissed me off when I see a pastor living in luxury.

No one said the churches are CAUSING the poverty. You miss the point entirely. The churches pull this bullshit saying they are going to "help the poor" in some way and then take everyone's money and spend it all on themselves. THATS the point. The lie and steal and cheat. THATS the point.

I work in the concert business and I've set up and torn down a lot of Christian shows and events. They always have these "look at these poor kids in Africa and if you just give us more money... we're going to stop the concert for like an hour while we go around asking for money on top of the ridiculous ticket prices we charged you for 'the poor kids in Africa!'"

And they just soak up tons of tax-free income and offer to way of following up on this to make sure you know where money is going. I asked some of the volunteers doing it and they couldn't give me a straight answer of how to follow up on the money and got really uncomfortable when questioned about it.

The point of the image is to point out how hypocritical they are.

The church is a charity organisation. If you tax one, you should tax them all, including peta and greenpeace.

Should the money be donated to better things? Perhaps. But that is for the individual to decide.

>it's the church's fault that there is poverty in the country

>The pastor TOTALLY cares about poor people and isn't just using this money to spoil his 8 daughters with college funds while they fuck frat guys at parties!

I thought this was an 18+ site?

>MFW the church of Kek involves no money and motivates it's followers to pursue good boy points instead of worldly frivolities.

>Render under Kek

Any engineer or any CEO do more for society than the carpenter you worship, let alone the cult leaders.

Your fault for believing silly kike fairytales.
Ive always wondered why the biggest shitholes on the planet are always the most religious.
Now that I think about it actually it makes perfect sense.

>be a part of a cult.
jokes on you nigga.

wait? isn't it like a national sport in Norway to burn churches?

Blue is the color of the sky/heaven.
Gold and pink are the colors of sin/hell.

Churches don't sell anything.

Joel Osteen is a great speaker though he converted me from being an Athiest edge lord to finding Christ.

Let's be honest here, it's really just americans ruining a good thing with their retarded cults, televangelists and "faith healers" and such.

These are the only replies that matter. No say in gov't due to secular state = no taxation.

Plus, at least for the Catholic Church, and probably most others, they give much more in aid around the world than even most "charity" organizations

what a shit thread

Man Brazilians are retarded and need to be banned from posting here.

Your function in society is to play soccer and spread zika, stop trying to have opinions.

Our temples actually get company shares as donations.

The real solution is to destroy all the churches. It's what Jesus would want anyway.

"Non-denominational" mega churches have always been a dumb idea.

>Mountain jew with more mudshits in percentage then in germany

Man, someone needs to take a brick and smash it across your fucking head

So liberals want to start taxing charities now? Because that is what would happen if churches were taxed

Oy vey destroy churches good Athiest goy.

The (Catholic) Church has amassed a FORTUNE, priests, bishops, etc get enourmous salaries, perks, more or less free housing and maids. (I've worked in the general vicariate and did accounting, I've seen the numbers), they own the most real estate.. we're talking about HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS. They get church money, church taxes, donations, etc. Not only that, the state also pays reparations to the church (100yrs ago many of the churches were expropriated). By the way, living in a very conservative small city that has always been overwhelmingly Catholic I can assure you the church does have political power. When artists want to perform here, it's typically the bishop who decides if they can or can not. The church also has massive influence on the nightlife in general, e.g. they pushed the cities administration to impose a 3am curfew. There's much more..

>Spend your life not getting paid by anyone
>Hope that you're good enough to survive on donations
>End up being so good at entertaining, educating, and holding a community together that you become rich
>WE NEED TO FUCKING STOP THIS
>Oh btw, Cred Forums, did you guys check out Pewds last video? ONE OF US, ONE OF US, ONE OF US!
Get fucked cunts.

The church actually fills to capacity weekly and is otherwise not that frivolous.

Joel Osteen has written 20 bestselling books and obviously makes millions from them. Nothing wrong with that.

The Catholic Church, which is the only denomination you can actually call a charity and calculate as such, is the world's largest charity.

I support taxing churches...only because it will bite liberals in the ass. Prominent pastors, hell, even the Pope, could appear in political ads and rallies. That would absolutely make this country full blown Republican indefinitely. Not taxing churches 1.) keeps politics out of religion, and 2.) keeps organized religion out of politics.

Mosques and synagogues too.

the image's point is spot on

>but muh separation of church and state

giving them special treatment with exemption is already violating it, imbeciles!

false equivalence
slippery slope
appeal to fear
et al

>Plus, at least for the Catholic Church, and probably most others, they give much more in aid around the world than even most "charity" organizations
yeah no shit, they're richer than some countries

hes right about the CEO
not the engineer.

This is why I'm starting my own singularity religion. I already have a ma in divinity. Might as well out it to use.

the government won't do anything better with the money.

>Religious people not abiding by what they preach?

Well, no shit sherlock!

>guy X dont give money to others and use only money to himself
>lets tax him, this will make him give money to others.

dont know but if someone has X -Y% dollars, its less likely they will give money than someone that have X dollars.
I mean they dont give money even when they have X dollars to spend why they will give when they have x-y dollars?

Your typical church doesn't look like that. Also, if you tax churches then they can legally lobby politicians and the government, thus removing separation of church and state. Also if you tax christian churches then that opens the door to taxing any religious institution including the muslim churches you so adore.

youtube.com/watch?v=35K6vQRt67g

>can't actually find picture of kids in "poverty"
>has to use some shitty stock google images picture

lmao

>looks at Swedish film about america
>omg american Christianity is so disgusting lets just kill them all

Go take some more immigrants please

>the literal future of our country isn't important
wew lad

If you want to tax the church then you also are allowing the church to get involved in the government officially

Churches' tax exempt status comes with the condition that they stay politically neutral.

Churches ignore this and get away with it. Black churches especially. Why do you think early voting on Sunday exists? So the church can bus the nogs to the polls.

Three houses is probably a small number for a politician, especially seeing as they're not really mansions.
Also, his voter base isn't whiney white middle class people. A lot of them are poorer, younger, and non-white, and they're not whining.

>congressman for 25 years
>published several books
>networth is some how less than half a million.

Taxing churches would give them the right to lobby government.

That's the only reason we don't do it.

>le nigger meme

People would be screaming racism if the image were of a black baptist church in an inner city and a black minister who lives in a run-down terrace.

...

They have no say in government. They should not be taxed. It is no one's fault but the parents for having shitskin babby who starves to death eating his own shit.

Plus the Catholic Church does actually aid kids like this anyway. Bullshit progressive argument based on feels for feral african niglets.

The porn industry makes about $4,000,000,000 a year. How about we use the money from porn and help the poor. Oh what, that would mean giving up cummies.

Poverty in the west means that they don;t have the newest iphone.

Enjoy your population crash.

>no say in government

both parties trip over each other in their support of israel, a theocratic state, and jews in general.

some republicans are basically Saudi tier with their Christianity.

Obviously zio-christcuck churches should be taxed to oblivion.

It was a sports stadium.

It's not the fault fo churches and pastors that 1/3 parents have children they can't afford.

That's a meme.

If the Church owes something to the State, than the State owes something to the Church. If you want to tax the Pastors and Churches, it is only because you don't know what the laws currently are on religious involvement with our political system, and what the results of breaking this relationship would be.

I agree with you there, however, most nuns I've met are legit.

I used to be an accountant for the sisters of mercy, and those old bitches take their vows seriously.

Some might say their role is "oppressed" by the male members of the church, but I honestly can't argue with the results.

Some even get upset because they're living too long, and don't want the church to pay for medical treatment so they can be with God.

I know, anecdotal, but I just wanted to say that most nuns appear to be legitimately married to God.

I will say that the priesthood is a little to comfy on a larger scale (bishops, cardinals, etc.) but locally, members tend to give more to the community.

As shitty as it sounds, a form of communism might alleviate the wider problems of abuse, and falls in line with the purpose of the church.

The problem with that is some form of oversight, considering the oversight would be from the church itself, might allow even more abuses.

Monk beer is delicious though.

You can't tax non-profit organizations.

Everyone in that Church already pays taxes. Each parishioner pays taxes according to their income. The pastor pays taxes. When something is purchased and used for the Church? Sales tax is paid.

You're talking about taxing charitable donations given to a non-profit organization. You're talking about taxing people TWICE. Fuck off.

God's temple is each one of us, priests are followers of Satan who bring money into what should be a spiritual thing.

And yet, the restrictions on political activities by churches are highly limited.

If you treat them as legitimate businesses then you are de-facto removing their bonds on political intervention.

Imagine if instead of having to simply galvanizing voters on wedge issues, the churches could simply fund politicians directly. The sort of megachurch shit you see now, DIRECTLY turned to political purpose. It would be the end of democracy overnight.

Literally politics of envy
I hate these people, they live better than medieval kings and still complain
I think a lot of them would rather have the richest 1 percent brought down even if it meant the improvements to quality of life stopped
If you don't like christfags getting rich don't donate to them nigger

>charlatans will exploit the ever living hell out of that and it's really not fair to anyone.
People seem to forget that you can choose not to buy what the merchant is selling. It might seem exploitative but people allow this to happen by going to what are effectively for profit.

>live better than most medieval kings
In the sense that medieval kings didn't have running water, it's true. However, many poor people in the USA lack utilities. This comparison doesn't even take into account the psychological effects of class, with those at the top holding the power and those below acting as slaves.

Yeah lets forget how the church helps people pay bills, child care, food, etc.

not the "church" in that pic.

local churches are great. all televangelists are scum.

televangelist "churches" should be taxed out the fucking ass.

I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.
Matthew 19:23

Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
Matthew 6:19

>psychological effects of class

how about you just don't be a pussy, fuck outta here with that bullshit
not even reading past that point

Egalitarianism, not even once.

Yeah, fuck churches and poor people equally.

Where did the pastor get all that money from though?

Not an argument.

any follower of god or satan alike are making money of naive faggets who belive in spiritual bullshit.

...

He is also an Author. The people from his church shit buy his books, hes not stealing from the Church. He scams them into buying his merchandise.

Guilting people into tithing, donations and selling overpriced books, bibles, prayer cloths and "anointed" olive oil.

I'm not sure you're aware just how much they're paid in Germany. Average is between 3-5k for a regular priest and they only have to pay a tiny share for their housing, maid, etc. A bishop makes at least 8k (that's the minimum, very sure the average is much higher), often around 12k per month. WHY?

>selling bibles
If a church makes you pay for the word of god, there's something wrong

...

But the children have to service the pastor.

This.

I'm Catholic. Priest are poor and the Church donates a lot.

Protip: if you tax the protestant churches and force them to accept liberal agendas you will force them into to more exclusive traditional churches. So get ready for a growth in Catholic attendance.

the same relations that ussr goverment had with the church, except church being an ideological institution.
Soviet government made the church pay taxes in 40s or so. The result was great. 1/3 of all the priests resigned and left the churches immediatly.

No. The reason why we don't tax them is seperation of church and state. If you think religious people are too involved in politics now wait till they're being taxed.

For-profit megachurches should be taxed, but no, smaller churches should remain tax exempt as non-profits.

Our tax code already allows non-profit organizations.

Megachurches are the exception, not the rule. By taxing churches, it would mean that they are constitutionally guaranteed representation meaning we'd be seeing a LOT more lobbying from churches and an even stronger voting bloc of churchgoers.

Especially to the Children.

>future
>in finland
wew
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How about you don't have children unless you can afford to raise them?

What the fuck is wrong with the poor? They breed like goddamn animals.

>assuming my religion
Autistic atheists proving themselves yet again.

This is true. When fedoras try to remove tax exemption for churches it's always using megachurches as an example, but tax exemption is meant to help small community churches.

Umm... No. "the church" does not look like that. That's some wackjob protestant thing.

This guy know what's up.

>all churches in America are Evangelical Southern Baptist happy-clappy megachurches

The left once again shows their lack of knowledge on Christianity and it's sects

Religion should be taxed like anyone else. Or organize as non-profit and deal with it accordingly.

>or organize as a non-profit

They literally do that though?

>2016
>religion
Choose one

True tho

>thinking we're all christians
Nice try.

>[CURRENT YEAR]
Return to reddit, Hans.

This could go both ways. The instant you tax churches, the idea of separation of church and state is over. And also I want to know what you consider "poverty". I really doubt 1 in three kids lives in true no kidding poverty.

>Implying engineers even make millions let alone pay millions in taxes

Its time to drive truth into the churches, using the ancient texts themselves to do it. We have all we need here. It works outside of church now, among the self-thinking, JQ, etc... cog49.com/am.pdf

Muslims are scum

No.

Okay, this is the second time I have seen this image and the first time I've seen it outside of 8-chan, can someone please tell me :

> What is it and where did it come from?

i choose religion.

that was easy.

The logic in this image is fucking retarded.

I agree. Mega churches are a cancer led by false preachers who enjoy talking more about money than reading from scripture. Tax them, but leave the smaller churches alone.

Also it's pretty obvious 99% of the people claiming to be Christian on this board have never gone to church in their lives.

>church spending

You understand that not every church is the same? Not every church has 1k+ people donating. Churchs get their money from donations and charity events.

those super rich american pastors bother me tbqhwy

are the people who donate to them mentally unwell? i can't comprehend why you would give money to someone far richer than yourself

Honestly this, I think children 13 and up should be able to get some sort of menial job, eventually allow them to do physical labor (or at least more "advanced" labor) as they age up.
Any thoughts?

Considering that the Hun has let his country be destroyed twice by losing wars and yet a third time via destroying his own birth rate and immigration, the only logical conclusion is to send all Hun-posters to the gas-chamber.

It is the light that saves Cred Forums from the darkness that it has been enshrouded in since January 24th, friend.

November 9th.

ORTHODOXY INTENSIFIES

Churches are not businesses though. A handful of super large churches have budget surpluses, but most of your corner churches are stretching a shoe-string budget from what is donated to them. Taxing them would kill all the small churches that are involved in community organization stuff and leave only the massive profit-focused churches which ruin the little bit of good religion does

>1 in 3 children live in poverty
Source right now, motherfucker.
Also 90% of churches aren't even a quarter of the size of the one in the picture, and most pastors don't live in swanky mansions. Even disregarding this, taxing churches is a dangerous step towards politicizing and persecuting them. Need we be reminded of how Obama's IRS targeted right wing, tea party groups? Imagine that against churches. I bet these faggots who made this meme would never dare say the same thing about mosques.

100% this
Lefties are children who don't know what they want

Like I said, I agree with you on the abuses of wealth higher up (bishops, cardinals, etc)

Especially since it goes against the teachings of Jesus.

I detailed a probable solution in my earlier post, and mentioned some potential problems with it, mainly the oversight being done by the church itself could propagate more abuses.

The spirit of the church is kept with lower level members locally (priests, nuns, etc.)

It seems as though anyone in a position to oversee operations on a wider scale is subject to corruption.

More monks, priests, nuns, less managers.

Monetary oversight should be on a local level.

>yfw liberal pass law forcing churches to pay taxes and within 10 years gay marriage is illegalized nationwide

Just tax the mega churches.

Why are the children white in that pic??

So long as it doesn't detract from their school and they do it willingly, I'm cool with it.

As it stands child labor laws are fucking retarded here.

If you own a family business like a restaurant and you ask your child to bring you a coke bottle from the storage or somethign you can get sued for child labor and risk the state taking your child.

I was thinking about this.

Poverty in the US is like middle class in the third world.

It's a false comparison. Hell, most of the priesthood falls under the poverty line in the US.

Like I said, I'd rather not tax them, but hold them somewhat responsible for their vows to relieve the societal burdens.

Orphanages, food banks, counseling, etc.

Taxing them would only reduce these services and place the burden on the taxpayer anyway.

I agree tax protestants, just leave Roman-Catholics and especially Orthodox alone.

That "Aid" is self serving, and at best allows jet-setting life-tours, and at worst exports the religion to the only places it can grow;

Locations with low reading levels, no capitalism and the freedom to 'opt in' or 'out' for a religious lifestyle choice.

Thats not charity to a humanist.

how do you feel about the % of $$ the Clinton foundation spent on actual charitable causes?

Daily reminder that only stupid people call people stupid.

Different take from post Keynesian: taxation is wealth destruction, not redistribution. Taxes only serve to keep people using local currency as taxes can only be paid in local currency.

>1) Separation of Church and State

Separation of church and state doesn't mean you let the church run amok and refuse to enforce laws on them or tax them at all, it just means you don't make laws based on them. Giving them tax exempt status treats them in a unique manner compared to every business, and actively goes against separation of church and state. If they are to be separated from the state, then we should be treating churches like any other business and taxing them rather than giving them special snowflake status.

For every megachurch and millionaire pastor there are hundreds of pastors and churches that are barely scraping by. This is extremely ignorant and only a fedora-tier atheist would advocate taxing churches. My uncle is a pastor and his family can't even afford more than one car.

Churches aren't the problem. Stop giving your damn money to third worlders overseas and give them to orphanages.

>implying children can buy parents

Exactly. If you want to tax churches then you can say goodbye to the supposed secular ideal of keeping churches out of the government.

First lol at showing whites as the poor people. This would all go to immigrants and minorities and you know it.

Anyway, the catholic church would be the most affected by this and the catholic church already does a TON to help the poor and priest get paid shit.

So stop trying to make all churches look like this because they are the exception not the norm.

Probably from all the hush money he has paid out over the years from fucking little kids.

I have 3 siblings and we all enjoy comfortable lives and our childhoods weren't in poverty.

I highly doubt it's talking about JUST children in America.

>people make a house of worship
>how fucking dare you

They can't buy what they lost, but they will be financially equipped and will be motivated enough to restart their legacy and move up a social class. Otherwise, they'll just grow up to be bums as living in poverty is all they know and what's expected for them.

Also, it's already proven charity finances given to third worlders has made them entitled instead of fixing their own society.

>Brazilian education

>Generations must go on suffering the fate of consciousness.
We're a mistake lad, fuck the children.

>My pastor was talking about how Europe was bound to be cucked by Islam 3 years before the invasion happened.
Were you alive in 1957 ? Mass immigration started in the 60's in France.

I think it should be a scale thing. Successful churches should pay some form of penance to the governing body. Small operations should be left alone.

But if you tax those church , then you'll have to tax any other religious cult , most of them relying only on meager donations.

>making rules on the exception

Most churches are lucky to get 60 people in the pews on Sunday, and the pastor has to hold down a full time job to make ends meet, you Godless heathen.

>Mom dies and businesses won't take his gbp
>Has to print NEETbux to support his dream of being a fairy tale teacher.
>Businesses won't take his NEETcoins
>Has to get a real job
>Argues he should be exempt from taxation because he doesn't believe in it

>implying muh taxes and muh gibs can fix shit

In Finland both church and state tax people. Then state taxes the church.

Ya gonna say what that land is used for or does it not fit your story?

Sure. Church isn't the problem. Niggers and Democrats are.

Im pretty sure their funding is mostly grassroots.

They can apply for grant aid but so can mosques and synagogues.

Bigger chance one of them kids makes it

underrated

donĀ“t there already do

aye, my serb bro, knows what he is talking about, also according to our doctrines, all of you are heretics, including Catholics, and mini heresies emerging from them, like protestants, etc.

No taxation without representation....
Well they can always VOTE like everyone else.
Jews/ scientology/ christfags/ Mudslime should pay more tax.
REPLY to "pastors offer more valuable servicethan the children"
That would be sodomy
Church run by Peddos..

When that happens you can call me up to hear me still say no.
>Catholicucks getting Jewed out of their Shekels by the (((pope)))
>I've been chosen by God to be the head of the church Goyim, don't forget to donate

Daily reminder that you cannot, in any way, shape or form, be a rich "christian". If you don't share your wealth, you are going to hell
>ameritard biblebelt millionares/billionares will get butthurt by this
Might as well become a scientology followers, since you're already a sinner subhumans.
biblehub.com/matthew/19-24.htm