Is there a meth problem in your town Cred Forums?

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The meth cooks are usually heroin addicts, it's an entropic cycle

Why the fuck people even do that shit? It's common knowledge that pretty much any amount of this shit is bad for ya
You guys have legal Aderall, so what's the point? To get absolutely tweaked out and then shoot your neighbors? Well, kinda sounds like good fun though

no one does meth in my country

Does adderal give you methboners? Methboners feel amazing, I hear. Really get inside the goochal area ukno?

Kind of, you hear more of it and most of my friends use it if it's offered and a couple use it with more regularity, but we don't have a bunch of tweakers roaming the street either. It's not the worst drug in the world if used responsibly, I honestly can't even tell if a friend is on meth or not unless they're really high.

>Meth isn't the thinking man's drug

Yes. I had an uncle of mine stay at my house recently for several weeks. He is a "recovering" meth addict, even though he literally last had meth a few days before he showed up at my place. He is in his 50s and would stay awake all night organizing shit in the room he was staying in, or even just cleaning things that don't need to be cleaned. During the day he would go pull weeds out of the backyard, and would try to fix things that didn't need fixing. He tried to fix my lawnmower (even though it worked perfectly fine) and ended up breaking it. It electrocutes you now if you try to use it. After he left I had to get some papers from the room he was staying in and it turned out he organized some of my financial documents.

Meth heads man, they are fucking weird. Had to kick him out because he started using again.

There was a huge meth bust in my area last month

fox19.com/story/32940480/1-million-in-drugs-seized-in-ohios-largest-meth-bust

There may be a slight problem

Edmonton also reporting in but I've only been here for two weeks. I've already seen a number of obvious junkies (heroin) and some possible methheads downtown. I was at the Shaw Conference Centre the other day and walked a few blocks in one direction and suddenly they were everywhere. I've also seen a few around 105 St.

In my home town it was mostly cocaine and there weren't really any problems from it other than retards starting bar fights, and the one time a drug dealer pulled a gun on someone. There were only 1000 people in the town and everyone was white or Korean, so there was still zero property crime, zero violent crime outside of bars, etc. (Literally zero; last reported violent crime that wasn't a bar fight was 1974 kek, and most people don't even lock their doors)

Adderall is to meth what 3.2% beer is to everclear

Yes. I'm trying to fight the urge to buy meth right now. At least I've got some high quality bud.

I live in southeast Texas.

Portland OR here. It's fucking awful. Destroying the lower class white community here.

Hell yes.

t. Eastern Kentucky

Kinda. Its worse in Gosford though

>Mathematicians grow on trees in Eastern Europe
>No one does meth in Romania

Whatever you say, Adi

Jews invented meth

All my friends wanted to experiment with boner pills. But we did them and they dont work i guess because we dont have broken frankencocks. Anyways somebody told me it makes people so horny they become like cats when you pet their rear backs

How about you stop destroying your state and yourself? If not, kill your dealer and take all his shit. Just shoot him. No one will care.

Also I should mention I'm in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan

Boston MA, here.

Meth is only big with young gays I've noticed. Its
very rare and expensive over here.

This.

Oregon in general has a meth problem, theres plenty around Portland but Id say the worst is the coast and Gresham

lots of tweakers here man...it's everywhere. this town used to be the meth capital or something of the sort. they walk around or ride bikes everywhere. they wear sweaters when it's like 90 degrees outside. they're fucking crazy man.

I used to live in Saskatoon. What a shithole.

How many times have you been stabbed and/or mugged, and how many of those times were the perpetrators Indians? (Trick question, it's always Indians) Also I have literally never seen as many homeless people in one place as I have when going past 20th-22nd & the alphabet streets.

WV so yes. White trash fucking love the stuff and with coal companies shutting down it's becoming an epidemic. Still, homogeneous society.

I don't like guns.

Nope there's a huge kerfuffle over heroin being cut with fentanyl, resulting in tons of overdose deaths though. I have an idea, stop injecting untested street drugs you idiots

Imagine this same cartoon but we're on a pile of nukes and it's more accurate.

as a former tweaker
yes

Uh...you're thinking of MDMA. Just cause amphetamine is in the chemical name doesn't mean they're interchangeable

Yea it's a travesty in Gresham.

pretty sure that's coke

>Why aren't millenials buying (((diamonds)))

I'm going to take a stab at this one and say it's somehow because we're lazy and entitled and we spend all our money on phones, and it says nothing about how compressed carbon is not even rare, the price is artificially inflated and we don't want to support slave labor.

Not so much anymore, most tweakers have switched to pain pills and heroin.

Suboxone is probably the #1 drug, even ahead of pot.

Start him on fire then

Nah, it's pretty easy to find no problem at all.

I don't enjoy it since I quit smoking though.

Agreed. I have zero sympathy, it's the thinning of the herd, and it's LONG overdue.

I live in eastern TN so of course. They need to start gassing repeat drug offenders

shut up peasant and smoke more meth

Never been stabbed or mugged but have come close many times. It's usually Indians mainly because street gangs here are like 98% indians, like even MS13 here are just Indians. Which is weird, you'd expect some white people to be criminals right?

Toluene -----> Benzal/Benzl Chloride -------> Benzaldehyde -------> L-PAC -------------> Ephedrine -----------> Methamphetamine

how the fuk you sell dis shit , darknet?

No. The Japanese made meth water soluble in the early 1900s. Then the American government fed it to their soldiers during WW2 to keep them awake, forcing the drug into the genetic pool and leaving future children forced to be potentially addicted. The government uses methanphetamine to keep lower class white people poor.

I live in the new meth capital of the world. Not really that bad where i live but if you head up into the city meth heads are everywhere

>you pop a molly boner you a god
>you pop a tweak boner its just a Friday night

No. Regarding 'hard' drugs heroin and oxy reign supreme round these parts.

Nope. Massachusetts checking in for heroin. Nasty mother fuckers out here.

what he's sayin is:
we are too poor for meth - have to rely on cooking crocodile and drinking antifreeze

Markham, ON

Not at all.

>Is there a meth problem in your town Cred Forums?

Yes we have a decade long meth epidemic here.

Going to be very interesting in the coming decades the carnage the meth head millennials are going to unleash with their brains looking like swiss cheese from all the meth abuse.

>For anyone who may not know. Meth eats your brain away.

No, heroine and the devil's cabbage.

Who gets a boner on ecstasy. You all had an opportunity to sell me on adderall and ya blew it

There's so much Meth here that my town is unofficially called Meth Monument.

Edmonton here, never really hear about meth but hear a lot about cocaine/crack, and now fentanyl

And yeah Saskatoon is terrible. I live on the west side near 33rd street. It's not as bad as 20th or 22nd but it's still terrible. It's bad enough that there is currently a police plane flying overhead right now.

>No the people in my town aren't trump voting trailer trash

But Druggies would be better to vote for Hillary.

She is more likely to give them welfare and she aint going to build a massive wall on the southern border to stop the flow of drugs.

Trump is the anti drug candidate you piece of shit.

Eureka California here, meth is a huge fucking problem here in the major towns of Humboldt County. Eureka, Arcata and McKinleyville are full of fucking homeless tweakers. Shit ain't safe after dark, that's when the hookers and homeless come out.

They say drugs put holes in the aura and this is proof. Many methheads report seeing reptilians n sheeeit.

I live in a big city so we have a weed and coke problem

Neither is bad though. Poor people do weed and get busted. Successful people do coke.

>Not doing coke with your boss on a Friday night for an eventual promotion
You guys are literally children

West centeral Wisconsin all the way up to Canada is meth infested.

>leaf

I don't care what you do. Sell meth to your neighbors kids, I don't care.

Yes. There seems to be a meth problem in every town. Seriously, don't do meth.

is meth pretty cheap? relatively speaking compared to other drugs

>dude hard drugs lmao
you're literally an inferior being

unfortunately yes

Not too badly from what I've seen and heard. Only ever knew one guy who claimed to use stimulants, and he was a coke man. The real menace in America right now is pic related. The heroin reassurance is getting out of hand now. Originally it exploded in NOVA (Fairfax and the like), but it's now made it's way south and in Fredericksburg, it's now getting pretty bad. Because I go to work so early and hit up a gas station by the hospital, I over hear a lot of overnight hospital staff bullshitting there on their breaks, and they've been talking about getting overdoses in the ER fairly consistently now. There was even a junkie bitch that shot up in the gas station parking lot and passed out, and my friend that works there happened to find her. I'm honestly getting pretty scared. Heroin use is not slowing down, and even though I carry a gun every day, I'd really not like to get into a fight with a junkie trying to get score money. These people literally have nothing to lose in the effort to get another hit, and I don't want to get shanked with an AIDs infected needle. :|

Stay poor.

I know people I went to school with who smoke meth quite regularly.

They have to because they work hard manual labour jobs 12 hours a day, 6 days a week.

Without it they wouldn't have the energy.
Its crazy what modern day employers expect but at the same time cant work out why the whole work force is taking stimulants to get through the day.

Oh well. Society will learn the hard way.

There are personality types without aurae and they go without attacks. Faith in Christ. Rh negative are susceptible. Mental health needs to move to infrared. The heart has its own brain. And physiology toward resonant vibrational energies
So. Radiation. Blood flow. Maybe meth shuts off the paranoia centres and the pineal. With fluoride doing same, what is difference and how is opening pineal beneficial anyways. Nicotine cuts fluoride harm and mental harms. And others. Everything is bad for you. Mind you meth heads can't eat anything and tend to go psychotic. Tend to.

Commie pls go

Seconding.

how cheap are we talking here. i havent even bought marijuana for like 7 years so i dont know how much things cost anymore

i would be scared of taking fentanyl, that shit is measured in such tiny doses

That ends with them on top of a big box store at 3 AM trying to steal the copper out of their a/c units and getting shot by a cop who is just sick of this shit.

>It's bad enough that there is currently a police plane flying overhead right now.

kek. You know, I saw lots of white or Chinese homeless, but they never bothered me. Not even once. I had a white guy ask if I had any cans he could take but that was after I said "hello" while walking past him (it was dark and I didn't see him until we were like 5 feet apart).

On the other hand every homeless Indian would always be like "ey dere brudda you gotta cigret dere neremind?" Or "ey man eye needda bus fare ta git home eh??" Then I'd see the guy a few hours later smashed out of his mind at the Tim Horton's where they'd all go in the middle of the night during winter. Sometimes they'd obviously be on heroin too. I also witnessed homeless Indians harassing people on the bus a lot of times.

Edmonton feels safer so far which is pretty weird seeing as how it's huge and full of immigrants.

Never. You're looking at it from all sorts of angles. What else could i expect from heteronormative extremists. Borrring. All i wondered is penile experiences on the legal adderall. Bleh

20th is getting relatively cleaned up with the new buisnesses, but I know as long as the food bank and friendship inn stay it'll be a game of attrition.

Gresham has been so shitty since they started gentrifying North Portland.

Fentanyl can be absorbed through the skin. Just touching it can easily fuck you up or kill you.

South Florida here. We still stick with Coke for the most part.

It comes in tape form, you just stick it on your palms or feet and bam, also suckers, hard candies, etc.

Not really. I live north of Chicago and overdosing on heroin seems to be the popular trend around here. I wish it were meth because being around methheads seems more fun.

>tfw been working at a retail store off of 122nd
>deal with lots of tweakers and homeless people
>store is closing
>moving to the one in Gresham
>hear it's even worse
I'm fucking spooked at what it could be like there.

Pretty sure meth is the drug that leads people to masturbate to porn for 10 hours.

I think the problem with Saskatoon is that it's the only option for miles around. Anyone and everyone, including EVERY Indian is here. If you aren't here, you're in the woods. Or in Regina or something but that's a long ways away.

Saskatoon is relatively small as well so all of the shit is just jampacked together. The city always tries to make neighbourhoods better by modernizing them but it doesn't matter, they still get overrun with the same type of people

>town
They don't call it Methazuma County for nothing.

Faaack. The stories ive heard. Oh well. I don't need that temptation

>That ends with them on top of a big box store at 3 AM trying to steal the copper out of their a/c units and getting shot by a cop who is just sick of this shit

That's the really bad meth heads.

A lot of people hold down jobs while on meth and its not a drug that only the poor use.

If anything iv found its the rich white kids from upper middle class or wealthy backgrounds who are the most prone to get into it.

nah it's mostly smack here.

IN

I'm so sorry. I work at DTNA and while we've managed to mostly keep the homeless off of the peninsula, they're starting to creep back in on the riverbank. They have a huge camp set up on Going St. too which looks fucking terrifying to walk/bike by. Thank goodness I drive.

more marijuana, but the gangs have been getting into meth lately

I gave you the ending.

back in high school I was with this qt girl and she started bragging to me about how she makes her own meth. Pretty weird. Never heard of anyone else in own doing it.

Texas here, central Texas is infested and it comes from where I now live, East Texas and Mexico.
The town next to mine has it's own DEA office to combat the rise of dope here.

Heroin and pharmaceuticals. The joys of living in the outskirts of a state capital.

Fellow Sconsin Bro Rural Polk county is by far the worst fucking place in the world for meth bar none

It's easy. That's the problem.

In Wichita Falls there was, but now in Houston so don't know yet.

nope, heroin all the way. thanks baltimore you fucing niggers

Nope, we have plenty of it here.

What's the best way to traverse a method town at night? How do I survive the junkies in the street?

Walk around with a halfie

You stay home

Keep the windows up and don't make eye contact with any of them make sure you have a 12 guage with 00 buck those fuckers can take alot of lead before they fall

Sounds rough. Feels like the homeless got more rights than us normal people these days. The mayor an absolute shit.

Meth is terrifying but ill take a bottle of adderall real quick nigga

It's actually adderal.
Meth makes you too spun out
Coke doesn't last long enough

Also reading this reminds me of how they just put 200 homeless people at the jail on 122nd and Glisan so walking past the Safeway on 122nd is barely an option these days. Hell it was barely an option before. This town is becoming a shithole. How's Eugene?

I live in Melbourne. Gets worse every year.

Las Vegas. YES.

The only towns without a meth problem in this country are the ones with a heroin problem.

How far north. I was just drinking with a retired cop from Gurnee (pretty far north). He said the situation in northern suburbs is hellish. Organized sources in all of the high schools, and cops aren't getting the backing to track down the sources.

It's the Asians. I used to work "security" in Dutch Harbor. Those fuckers have gummy bear meth, they have little blown glass looking figurines that are 100% pure meth. It doesn't effect them like white people.

It's hard to tell in my small suburb but throughout out melbourne it's pretty bad. Lived in cragieburn a bit too, it's made and used by everyone in that mess

Isn't there like 5 major over the counter BASICALLY METH drugs people take to concentrate?

Calgary too
There's a huge meth problem but people don't die as much as fentanyl so it's taken a backseat

>basically

Live in a city in michigan filled with dutch-americans, so we have a weed problem

>dad is a very good attorney that had a major breakthrough case with the fed and won
>dad has meth problem that made my mom leave him
>dad is 50+ years old has been using for almost 20 years
>his body is so worn out, he became physically dependent on it
>has been to rehab 3 times
>this year me and my brother confronted him and appearently he became clea
>had a lack of communication recently which is one of his signs and finally saw him
>finally saw him and he looked like a completely different person in a good way
>explains why he had so many new numbers because people were asking for money and drugs

If you keep praying, and keep strong anything is possible Cred Forums.

CT here. Meth is average (If that's an accurate word). Heroin is much more rampant though. It seems like every week a dozen people in my state drop dead because of it

Fewer homeless I guess but not much in the way of jobs, at least for my field (automotive engineering). Portland is still okay if you're driving into it and living elsewhere.

not sure if deja vu or if you've posted this before

Desoxyn is literally (not basically, ACTUALLY) methamphetamine and is legal with a prescription. It's generally only prescribed for narcolepsy (falling asleep constantly during the day due to a disorder) or being hilariously obese, though; many amphetamines/analogues are also legal but having a similar chemical structure does not mean they have similar pharmacological effects (they usually do, but not always).

Yeah that's part of it. I remember that whenever they'd move the homeless out of one area they'd just shit up some other neighborhood lol.

No east coast heroin and cocaine are way to cheap for trailer chemists to make inroads

Unfortunately can confirm

Good thing we just privatised medicine. You might as well put that usual medical Canadian genius away in a jar

I don't think that's so terrible

I saw him today, so I doubt you've heard it before but I may have posted about my dads case before.

Wouldn't say a problem in my town. Neighboring county is the capital of my state for meth. The theft spills over a little but they don't travel far into my county. Most people I know that use say it's quite difficult to obtain meth in town.

Everyone slams meth but it's really isn't any worse than any other hard drug. They all steal/prostitute once the money dries up. Meth mouth happens because they just don't brush their teeth.
Most of the world's militaries use or have used meth at one point or another. Nazis used it, until right after Korea the USA used it on a very large scale.

Your dick would be super sore. I've masturbated for 30 minutes and rubbed my dick raw and it hurt to touch for 2 days afterwards

Vicious cycle mate, its just not worth it.

Yeah your not rubbing the whole time. Its more finding sick movies to watch that takes the time haha

Disregard then, I'm just going clinically insane

how do and get away with it user?

The only problem the news ever brings up with meth are "muh edsbloding labs :DDDD".

It doesn't really cause any real problems, like any other stimulants. Barring exceptional cases.

yeah i used to do meth and do this

untill i found a chick that was down to do meth and fuck for 2 days every 1-2 months

shits super cash and i don't do meth in any non-sexual situations

Yes.

t. East Bay (California)

And they're all EBT users.

>Thinking man's drug
>causes irreversible brain damage
wew lad

tweakers should be rounded up and exterminated like the vermin they are.

There's an opiate epidemic about to boil over in my city, every day I see some homeless junky attacking nothing or muttering incoherently or passed out on the sidewalk

Yeah there's a meth problem here. It's yellow, wet and smells like shit. Make America's meth good again!

Oklahoma is a meth nightmare.

>t. Degenerate tweaker

You lads need better coke I assumed yours was great being attached to south america by land

No, because I don't live in a Midwest flyover shithole.

I will pray for your dad user. He sounds like he is a good man working at what problems he has.

Honestly not surprised you work at a tire change place

Edmonton as well. China town is Fucking awful for it. I have to park there to get to the ESO but I always have to worry about junkies.

Yeah, around there. Lake County area. Its pretty bad. Not only the deaths but a lot of kids ending up in jail too. Committing all kinds of crazy crimes to get their fix.

More of an opiate problem but meth is big here

Get away with what? One meth head killing another? One dead, the other in prison. Win/win. Im just being frugal.

we have gypos that huff glue

>i was in the pool
Ugh

Vincennes, IN here

Vincennes was the former meth capital of the world until Montreal stole our crown.

I work in a grocery store while I study at the university and I have to deal with meth out people all the time. It's really funny actually. I got a few stories if anybody want s to hear.

they're so brown, what on earth...

wow, racist much?

Never seen meth.

Weed and hash are everywhere, coke is relatively easy to get your hands on.

Meth never seen or heard of anyone using and heroin is mostly 50yos who are addicted to it but it's rare.

a-PVP is better

Meth mouth is more than just lack of hygiene, cheap meth has all kinds of abrasive chemicals. There are many examples of tooth decay in the shape of a pipe. Doing meth isn't a death sentence for your teeth, plenty of users have normal teeth, but brushing won't save them either.

Perth, Australia. Yes. The dirty fucking scum are everywhere. I work in the city and the amount of junkies is disgusting. Moved here from Brisbane, nowhere near as much there is here.

The precursors arrive from Asia

I wouldn't call it a problem

No. It's heroin here. bad shit

You mean it's imported? Yeah no shit.

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OH GOD.
You're right. So painfully right.
The PVs make meth look like a light mocha.

Heroin is much bigger. I think that's the general trend in most places. And I'm sure the kratom ban is going to help with that a lot. The DEA are just as scum as any junkie.

>meth
>junkies

Protip: If you're going to pretend to know about drugs, at least try to get your terms correct.

Or people could, you know, not take drugs.

>is there a meth problem in your town
Ahahahahahahaha
Our area is one of the highest producers and users of meth in the USA. Fucking hate meth addicts more then anything.

(You) asked for it

Its not imported as meth tho. You all do Aussie made meth.

Protip: slang varies from country to country.

It would be pretty cool if the moon was made of chocolate and you could fly there and eat it.

Casual.

Drugs make the world go around.
Always have.

try and stop me

There is in my home town, but not where I live now.

Australia has one of the highest meth use rates in the developed world.

South Florida here. We have more of a heroin/opiate issue.

I blame ottomans for keeping you in darkages, wherever they went, poverty and religiousness followed.

You would have flying cars if it wasn't for them

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I wouldn't have a job if it wasn't for the amount of meth in my town.

Huge one, It flows from the reserves nearby.

These aren't huge reserves but they're shit enough to need their own RCMP detachments. We're talking 1k people maximum.

Aboriginals ruin everything they touch. Fuckin' prairie niggers

You've never done them. Adderall is way better! Meth is same shit just made with poison.

Poor people here in the third world mostly use crack and oxi, meth is unhead of.

Ok. Thanks.

Its expensive everywhere.

Louisianafag here...

Fuck yes. Everyone does meth it seems. Random fires everywhere all the time with dumbasses trying to cook their own.

I support it's legalization if only to prevent shit like this and how everyone acts super, super shady all the time. You can spot a methhead from a mile away because of their rotten teeth and inability to tell the a story the same way more than once, just constantly lying.

Why do they wear sweaters? I don't get it.

>legalizing meth
this kills the society

>ottomans
The ottomans were shit for many reasons, but this particularly is the biggest gypo ghetto. We gave them gommieblocks, but they still made it little india (at least they poo in the loo). I can show you pictures of other parts of the town, where normal bulgarians live, and the blocks will still be gray, but you'll see trees and gardens and playgrounds and street gyms. But of course the gypo prefers trash and illegal buildings.

Also, keep in mind those are from 2012, since then the municipality fixed most of the flowing water issue(that the gypos caused) and has started educating the gypos to stop going through the garbage that's in the cans and leaving it outside.

I really don't know. I think it's only prevalent with gays here in Buffalo, NY. Heroin is much bigger here.

Small towns in southern ontario have problems with it, including the town I live in.

no it dosent, spain legalized all drugs and the crime rates drop drastically by 90% or so. death rates jumped from all the druggies killing them selves and the dealers and sellers went out of business or took a real hard hit by this.

midwestfag here
There is supposed to be but I have never known of anyone involved in use, distribution, or manufacturing.

Drug task force budget justification seems most likely to me.

Adderall all does that to me. Literally 6 or 8 or 10 even 12 hours once,don't do 12 hours; hurt my dick, its just too much! Pulled a muscle in my dick but even in those 6 hour ones you can rub some skin off and it hurts lol. Meth was never as impressed as adderall. But adderall its impossible to get boners.

I bet it would get super popular there if gangs started making and distributing it in earnest, though I guess coke is way easier to come by around those parts so I guess crack would stay dominant.

>this kills the society
Not really. Only niggers have problems with stimulants, Abe.

It used to be, but now it's pillbillies shooting up heroin after running out of prescription drugs.

Make free booze for injuns a thing

Then they won't sell meth

>people who do meth give a fuck about the law one way or the other
end this stupid fucking meme
treat it as a sickness and not a crime

>we legalized the crime and the crime rates went down
Drug use rates went up though.

Categorically false.

Nah no way. Ive done insane amounts of psychedelics thats my shit. Have hate for pleb drugs like pain killers and feel good drugs. But amphetamine is awesome, why would anyone go from that to pain killers were uh I feel a little numb. Its the opposite do you want to feel more alive or dead. They are not the same thing.

Dubs don't lie

I went to Prague this summer, supposedly the meth capital of Europe.
Some nigger (oh and there were many) approached me in the dark of the night and asked me if I want some weed. I said yo sup give me sum pervetin. He was like "I don't know what it is, tell me what it is, I can get it, tell me"
I said if you don't know what it is you don't have it. The nig was visibly upset. And there went my only chance to try meth...

There's a meth problem in my mailbox :D

>Whatever you say, Vasile

Fixed it for you.

Yeah, kinda sad. Even a lot of respectable people are getting caught up in it. A friend of mine gave me a very personal insight to her sisters meth addiction, very sad, considering how good of a family she came from

Oh and the next night I bought a gram of coke off some twitchy guy, only to later realize it was 100% pure baking soda.

So beware lol

You made that up.

i don't work there i just took a pic of the worst possible lift design

Yep. Ive seen how its done since my ex was a white trash 3 time felon. All her friends kids are on welfare and get ADD medication so their kids are all taking free amphetamine every day until they are 18 and then none so you know they are going to turn to meth cause its the same shit!

There was, but now the druggies are either dead or in prison or in the rivers floating.

first off, it was portugal that decriminalised drugs in 2001. I'm not going to put effort into arguing against someone who got the fucking country wrong and clearly is channeling libertarianshits and/or reddit

But for you here's my source:
Balsa, C., Vital, C. and Urbano, C. (2013) 'III Inquérito nacional ao consumo de substâncias psicoativas na população portuguesa 2012: Relatório Preliminar’, CESNOVA – Centro de Estudos de Sociologia da Universidade Nova de Lisboa, p. 52

Now fuck off

Hazard reporting in. Can confirm, tons of meth heads everywhere

>we have a drug problem
Where have I heard language like this before?
>we have a gun problem
Oh. Yeah. People blaming inanimate goods for bad behavior. That's a progressive idea.

I came here to say this. The East coast is riddled with the shit. It has taken 3 of my brothers from me. .

>drugs and guns are the same
wowee

>we have a child porn problem
see I can be just as retarded as you

Mack town represent

>drugs and guns are the same
Both are inanimate objects that are useful tools and in a minority of times used in irresponsible ways that cause harm to society.

Face it son. You have leftist logic if you believe an inanimate party can be blamed for the actions of users.

>see I can be just as retarded as you
You ARE a retard, if you compare victimless crimes like gun or drug possession to making CP.

Yeah all the crazy "Florida Man" stories can probably be attributed to meth. That's sort of the elephant in the room.

I want to try it though, but I want. I just drugs that give me boners and well... Everyone keeps talking about how it does weird things to you sexually...

I'll probably just stick to occasional weed though.

Nah, we just cook it and export it to your town.

t. desertfag

>Both are inanimate objects that are useful tools and in a minority of times used in irresponsible ways that cause harm to society.
Guns have no effect on a person's mental status, capacity, and perception of reality. Drugs do. Many drugs can erode a person's ability to reason effectively.

>Guns have no effect on a person's mental status, capacity, and perception of reality.
Actually, having a gun can greatly increase aggressiveness and confidence, for obvious reasons. It's a potentially dangerous tool, like a drug, that requires common sense and responsibility, but should never be banned.
Most gun users, like most drug users, do not cause problems. Punishing the majority for the actions of a minority and placing blame on the inanimate over the person makes you a fucking leftist, son.
Whether you like it or not. You anti-drug faggots are every bit as bad as gun grabbers.
You utilize the same logical fallacies to attack a thing you do not like.

Eureka, California, reporting in
Not a shard in sight
Don't think I've seen even a single tweaker here

816 here. I can walk down right next door and get you as much meth and oxycontin as you want. If my neighbor doesnt have it the guy across the street will. He was out at 2 am when I got off of work mowing his yard with a flash light taped to the front of the mower.

>Actually, having a gun can greatly increase aggressiveness and confidence, for obvious reasons
Aggressiveness and confidence are behaviors not perceptions of reality, mental status or mental capacity. Not the same thing at all, but let's examine some common drugs that are restricted (Cocaine) or cause restrictions when under the effect of (Alcohol and driving).

Does having a gun cause decreased reaction times like alcohol that make driving dangerous?

Or cause Hallucinations such as LSD?

Or have addictive qualities like Cocaine that cause people to engage in extremely risky behavior to get more?

If the answer to those are "No" then the comparison is bunk.

Nope, never dealt with it

Seems like it's a South, Midwest and West thing largely.

I'm a Northerner.

No. I live in one of the safest Conservative areas in the country.

This town is predominantly rich, predominantly middle-class. Lots of toffs. Lots of private schoolers (myself included). Lots of "rahs" as we call them (because of their posh accent)

If any drugs are done around here then it will be cocaine by rich lawyers at their dinner parties, and weed by their rebellious teenage children.

one person using with little to no "tolerance" can feel the affects for 12 hours from a single dose, so the amount of dope you get for say, 20 dollars is .2 grams but you can stay high on .2 grams for 3 or 4 days with no sleep or comedown.

>implying the gator didn't deserve it

Even good coke doesn't last all that long the better shit doesnt last an hour at most

Is canada a meth country?

lCover up track marks and sores

>They have to because they work hard manual labour jobs 12 hours a day, 6 days a week.
>Without it they wouldn't have the energy.

What cunt? They don't HAVE to, people have been working heaps long hours doing manual jobs since the beginning of time without drugs. Sounds like they are pussies to me.

no its heroin in the deep south, at least near the cities. but im worried because its moving into the rural areas quicker and quicker.

protip: junk is junk everywhere and meth is not junk

Yeah, my neighbors aren't buying enough of it from me.

NH, heroin is more of a problem here

>Does having a gun cause decreased reaction times like alcohol that make driving dangerous?
No, but owning a gun does statistically cause the risk of death in the household to increase.
That's not the fault of guns, but of the few people who possess them and use them irresponsibly.

The vast majority of drinkers never kill anyone while driving.
It's neither alcohol nor cars that are the problem. Countless millions use both an never have serious trouble.

Its funny cause its really potent and cheap right now in LA. Like 60 bucks for an 8 ball. Gonna cop some when I go back.

Tweakers and potheads are all over southern california

>No, but owning a gun does statistically cause the risk of death in the household to increase.
That isn't relevant because that is causing an increase in danger to the people in the household and people are, most of the time, able to leave the household of their own free will. Drugs and guns are different in far more meaningful ways than they are similar.

>That's not the fault of guns, but of the few people who possess them and use them irresponsibly.
It isn't the fault of guns, but I am not arguing guns are bad or that drugs are bad (I think they are, but I am not arguing that right now), but rather that drugs and guns aren't comparable in the way they are using the comparison.

Boston here.

Smells like weed on every corner.

No, my brother only sells weed and mdma

>Like 60 bucks for an 8 ball.
Hmm. That's almost as cheap as hexen.

It is relevant. The complaint about drugs is "they cause harm and hurt the community".
This is the same complaint, tit-for-tat that leftists use against guns.

The reason drugs cause so much trouble is simple. They're made in an unregulated manner, sold in a manner without regulation, and no one in the government allows people to be taught safety in their usage like we teach sex-ed, drivers-ed, and gun safety.
Drugs require responsibility, and yet the government basically makes it impossible for responsibility to be had in drug use unless you actively seek out the information you need from the internet(thanks to erowid, psychonaut wiki).

The drugs aren't the fucking problem. Government and "drug free" idiots are.They literally cause the problem then claim to be the solution. When someone who ISN'T the government does this, it's typically called a protection racket, and it's highly illegal.

>It is relevant. The complaint about drugs is "they cause harm and hurt the community".
Not my argument. My argument is that drugs that deteriorate Man's ability to reason is bad since being able to reason is what separates people from animals and rabid beasts. Whether it be by addiction that causes them to be unable to suppress immediate desires or through psycho-active effects that cause their perception of reality to become unreal, they become more akin to beasts than man. Since the ability to reason is sacred, drugs that destroy that are wrong.

How can a man be able to live in society and make agreements if a drug destroys that rationality?

yeah, where I used to work, there a shit ton of junkies

Siskiyou county has few methheads

Kitchener, ON

Just because a common argument against drugs is bad doesn't mean there aren't other arguments. It was stupid to treat the libshit argument as the only argument.

>My argument is that drugs that deteriorate Man's ability to reason
Science disagrees here too.
For one thing, "drugs" is a massive category.
WHAT drugs do this? Because methamphetamine is generally not a drug that impairs cognition. At least not with normal/typical usage. Heavy usage can cause this but heavy consumption of water can have the same effect.

No, but the city near me has a heroin problem.

Everyone is a pussy these days. Nobody knows inner strength anymore. Its all steroids and uppers and downers, antidepressants etc. Then they fall apart at the seams and have breakdowns and wonder why, when they were pumping their bodies full of the jew the whole time.

Never seen the shit. In my neck of the woods the only hard drug that won't get your house torched or worse is coke and the HA controls it completely so none of is stomped on by chinks or niggers.We had a heroin junkie move to town a few years ago and he had his hand cut off by one of the bikers we presume. I'm near the ON/QC border.

oh I feel like such a noob. Guess thats a good thing I don't get it. Saw old friends and one was trying to make fun of me talking about Tina slang for meth but I didn't get it. I think they were pretending I was a meth head since Ive been meditating for 16 years and become manic at will; they thought I was a druggy.

nope, heroin

heroin here

Nope, heroin. We're classy around these parts.

>this

>>My argument is that drugs that deteriorate Man's ability to reason
>>drugs that
The argument is clearly making a specific point that any drug that impairs the ability to reason is wrong.

>Science disagrees here too.
First of all Science isn't a monolithic entity. Second of all, you offer no proof of your claim. Meth clearly has negative impacts on cognition.

ehd.org/health_meth_6.php

>WHAT drugs do this?

Drugs that are addictive since they cause people to be unable to prioritize in a healthy manner. Drugs that have a tendency to cause psychosis since being able to discern real from unreal is very key to reasoning.

>outer SE suburb
JUST

lived in ATL for two years, meth is much lower down the list of problems. AIDS and crack are the big worries. Glad i'm back in the safety of the caliphate

You've been to Australia?

Two of my coworkers do it.

One of them offered me some and I ended up actually buying $20 worth of it. On the 3rd day of having it, I literally threw it all away.

Disgusting ass drug. The stimulation feels unnatural. The euphoria is a joke compared to what other drugs can do. Couldn't get any sleep on the days I took some, even though I took small doses around 6pm, and went to bed around 12.

Never again.

>Second of all, you offer no proof of your claim.
youtube.com/watch?v=nfyILyJRJTQ

You can't ignore the positive effects and only talk of the negative ones.
The drug's primary effect is cognitive enhancement. Most users do not encounter serious negative effects, since most people who use it don't tweak the fuck out on it.

fuck i wish there was heroin in my town all we have here is shitty low qual stuff at real high prices because the italian mafia has a monopoly over the area

>However, neurotoxicity is a concern with heavy use, psychosis can arise

That still falls within my category of drugs that reduce reasoning.

Not only that the addictiveness argument still holds. Can someone reason while addicted and there mind and body telling them to do something with such strong sensations?

amphetamines.com/amphetamine-abuse/addiction/

This is shades of gray arguing. Rather than attacking the letter of my argument, why not attack the spirit of it? Whether or not drugs that reduce reasoning are morally acceptable.

kek, but meth lasts only a few minutes

Meth capital of Missouri right here

12 as in 6 hours later or 18?

Springfield, MO here. Big meth problem.

>tfw being cleaned for almost 2 weeks now

Meth not even once guys, I wish I never tried it.

keep up the good work lad

Thanks user, he was a great father to me despite his problems. I want him to be around longer for sure.

The thing is, "with heavy use".
Most meth users never get that far. I myself have reached a state of psychosis on a-PHP(a stronger stimulant than meth), and while it was pretty unnerving, I did recover after some sleep and a bit of ale and a shower.
Even in states of stim psychosis, the dangers are mostly overblown with media hype, and as I said earlier, the on;y news stories I see involving meth are stories about the cops busting "dangerous labs", which are literally only a thing because you can't get the shit legally anymore.

Every problem associated with a drug is either created by prohibition, or made worse by prohibition.
So the logical followup question is this- "Why prohibit rather than regulate like the food industry?"
People like to know what they're consuming. They want to be informed, hence the labelling of GMO foods and the like.
Safety and responsibility are adult preventative measures, not taking the toys away. Prohibition is what you do to children, hence why kids can't buy cigs.

Yeah. pic related.

Ice is a HUGE problem in Australia, we are basically Antarctica.

Why would anyone need a stim as strong as alpha-pvp? It doesn't make much sense.

Muswellbrook Australia here. Meth is a huge problem in this town.

>huge problem
>gram cost 100 dollars

Lol no

Nope. But we have a huge hair on problem.

I don't think so. All the cool kids do heroin here. At least they're giving out naloxone to anyone that wants it now though so it's not like there's any motivation to stop.

>The thing is, "with heavy use".
The psychosis was clearly separate from the heavy use, but I can understand your point.

>Most meth users never get that far
I don't know the statistics and I don't think getting reliable statistics is a feasible thing for that because it either relies on self-reporting from the users or reports from treatment. Both of which would be terribly biased. So I can't take such a claim seriously unless you provide evidence otherwise.

>Every problem associated with a drug is either created by prohibition, or made worse by prohibition.

When have I ever mentioned prohibition? I am not arguing legality or not. I am arguing morality and the two are separate. I don't care if it is prohibited or not, but doing drugs like meth IS immoral because the ability to reason is unique to humans and it tends to reduce that greatly either through addiction eliminating the ability to postpone immediate desires or psychosis/cognition impairment.

Part of it was also your extremely shitty comparisons pissing me off because of how simplistic they were.

Not meth, but heroin. Doctors in the town clinic (free to everyone here because of federal funding) over-prescribe like no tomorrow.
We fill more oxycodone/hydrocodone than we do metformin, for a town where like 40% of the people are diabetic.
Almost all of the people fail drug tests each week and patients still get their meds. State passed a law that no patient can be on pain meds that are over 100 MME.
Doctors don't give a fuck, neither does the clinical director. Town council knows all about it, but does nothing. People are simultaneously getting suboxone, oxy/hydro, benzos, and coming up dirty or with nothing in their system.
Nothing gets done.
Constantly finding needles in the playgrounds.
Informing the local DEA office does nothing because the sergeant on our police force warns the dealers before each raid. They don't even bother raiding houses anymore.
>tfw living on a reservation

theres a meth problem in my house. dunno about the rest of the city.

Tfw I never see it because I live in Beaverton and everyone is decent to we'll off :^)

Being around plains niggers must suck. You have my condolences.

Chicago reporting in. We have a shitload of junkies/dope but ice is extremely rare here and I've never even met a tweaker. The dopeheads always OD so they're never a problem for long. The real problem here is niggers and spics. The west side is a fucking warzone because of the subhumans killing each other over the heroin trade.

Lol yes

The PVs are a blast, as long as you're careful.
Stayed up for days playing vidya, then organizing all my files while listening to metal.
I needed to sort files bad and the a-PHP made it actually fun.

Taking L-theanine and staying hydrated and fed(ensure and ice-cold smoothies) kept the crash from being little more than a couple days of meh, despite the touch of psychosis.

Last time I used php, I made myself insane enough that I've gained the ability to see sociopathy in the faces of people who have it. Probably explains why the government doesn't like the lesser classes using stims. They can give you the ability to see past their bullshit, like the hollow-mask test.
When you actually see the people who lead us for what they are, it's really unsettling.

I don't really think it's necessarily heroin, it's coke, ex, weed, heroin, whatever they can touch. and they aren't really killing each other over the trade they're just kind of killing each other.

their version of shitposting is talking shit, cuckoldry, starting fights and drive bys in old buicks.

>Chicago reporting in.
>The west side is a fucking warzone because of the subhumans killing each other over the heroin trade.

Deja-vu.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Valentine's_Day_Massacre

>Both of which would be terribly biased. So I can't take such a claim seriously unless you provide evidence otherwise.
Point taken here. Right now it's impossible to confirm the truth for the reasons you say.
I stay away from bias, my only gripe is when people skew facts and cherry-pick.
Drugs are like guns or cars or anything else with potential risks. You must learn how to be safe in order to avoid trouble. The drugs ain't going anywhere, so rather than fight an unwinnable war, make the war go away by acting like adults.

>but doing drugs like meth IS immoral because the ability to reason is unique to humans and it tends to reduce that greatly either through addiction eliminating the ability to postpone immediate desires or psychosis/cognition impairment.
Immorality only comes from those who act immoral. Like drinking and driving.

>Immorality only comes from those who act immoral. Like drinking and driving.
If you're saying that morality is something that comes from consequences I can understand and respect that even if I don't agree since I see morality as a product of reason and to do things that destroy reason is to destroy all morals. However don't be one of those fags saying "Morality only exists in our minds maaaaaaaannnn" because they are retarded since we can't prove our existence in a non-solipsistic sense.

You've had too much acid man

>However don't be one of those fags saying "Morality only exists in our minds maaaaaaaannnn" because they are retarded since we can't prove our existence in a non-solipsistic sense.
I'm not. Morality is a take-off of survival instinct. Morality, when condensed, is our attempt to keep away chaos. Since chaotic life usually means death or at minimum pain and suffering.
For example, said drinking and driving which can easily lead to pain, suffering, or death. Drinking itself does not regularly lead to these things. So drinking itself cannot really be said to be immoral when you apply objectivity to morality.
And guns. Guns do not regularly lead to chaos, but shooting haphazardly and using a gun like a fucking moron does.

>Morality is a take-off of survival instinct
Morality is based off of reason. We wish to keep away chaos because it is smart to do so and has benefits. For example when someone makes another really angry, your instincts tell you to hit him, but his rationality tells him that would be bad. That leads to the creation of principles such as violence being wrong. These principles that are created via reason thus serve as the basis for morality.

Alcohol is thus an immoral drug because it hinders reason and thus you have a greatly increased chance to suppress your reason and be violent. It isn't our "instincts" that tell us to be moral, but rather out rational thought.