I have been dependent on kratom for 7 years to stay clean off opiates, mainly heroin, with much success and ZERO relapses on getting high, even after prescribed OxyContin for a gallbladder removal. Took that as prescribed, no problems. I have three blown disks in my back, and two bulging disks in my neck, which my neck is also in the shape of a "Z" almost. I ran out yesterday morning of kratom and my pain is unbearable. I can hardly walk or make any significant moves (getting in a vehicle for instance, without help). I cannot afford to buy more kratom at the moment, I'll only buy it bulk otherwise it's a waste of money. but yet I have enough to buy 6 points of heroin for $40, which is a lot for me considering I don't take opiates unless necessary these days.
I don't want to do this, buy heroin or any other opioid/opiate pain killer. I have no health insurance, I am poor and have worked my whole life, prescription pain killers are way too expensive for me, also debilitating, whereas heroin is cheap, but also debilitating. I need ANY type of herb or whatever that will kill pain without intoxication.
Can someone please give me advice on how to manage chronic severe pain without narcotics. I'd rather not take narcotics (which is why I switched to kratom). I have fallen twice tonight due to my back pain and broke my nose falling down the stairs of my house while pinching a nerve and paralyzing my legs. I can't tolerate this pain and need something effective that is non narcotic, please help me out. Any suggestions are welcome. Otherwise I'll have no option but to take small quantities of heroin for financial reasons, which God knows I don't want to do.
I have to go to a psychiatrist soon to figure out what's best for me in this regard. I suspect they will put me on methadone or suboxone, both I'd hate to take because they fuck you up.
My fingernails kind of hurt because I've been chewing them. I just smoke a lot of weed.
Tyler Lewis
Done it many a times, doesn't really affect me, I prefer poppy pod tea, but like I said I do not want to go on opiates
Logan Morgan
I was going to crack about being being dependent to stay clean, but I can;t bring myself to do it.
Can you get some booze until you can get more kratom? Cdine? Weed?
Justin Wilson
I live in Colorado so I have a lot of weed available, doesn't help out too much with the pain. I'm drunk right now on rum and the pain has barely been subsided.
Wyatt Turner
You have time to buy a large amount to store in the freezer. You may consider going across the border and ordering some or a friend in another country who can discreetly ship.
Wyatt Price
Have you tried edibles? My mom died of cancer, they helped more than the opioids.
Just like how benzos eventually cause paranoia. I know firsthand.
Cameron Bailey
OP. Consider the option of receiving a spinal cord stimulator implant.
I also know that low-doses of Ketamine can eliminate pain entirely.
Austin Lewis
Tons of edibles, they fuck me up too much and make me sleep, making me unfunctionable. I need something that keeps me mentally stable but my body in A pain free environment. Body highs are okay, mental highs, I cannot afford (socially and job wise). I've been working construction, framing homes, and the kratom made the hard labor bearable. I need something that will not incapacitate my mind or attention. I just need a good pain reliever that doesn't affect the mind. Just the body, which is what kratom did for me.
Liam Gonzalez
You and your mom are both degenerates.
Charles Bennett
I don't know what sort of support you can get in the States, but have you consulted with a pain management specialist?
And you're a nigger Marine too beta to go out and rape on a national holiday.
Elijah Thomas
Get hooked on krokodil m8 I have,your arm dosen't rot off, that's media lies mate
Isaiah Smith
All junkies and druggies need to die along with alchoholics and smokers
Andrew Garcia
I have heard of ketamine doses do help out pain relief, but I do i doses do you help out pain relief, but if I remember correctly, ketamine is not legally available for that type of treatment in the US. I know what you mean by benzo's, though I cannot relate. I've been on Xanax since I was 19, I am 28 now. I get no paranoia from it but I have a psychological problem (acute anxiety disorder, for a while docs thought I had Aspergers, turns out I have severe anxiety issues since I was 6, not an autist),where I have to take 3mg of it every day. I used to be on 8mg a day. My doctor sent me to detox and rehab just to detox off the medication and get me off it. I don't abuse it nor have I ever. After I got out of detox and a little rehab, my quality of life went downhill. My doctor that wanted me off Xanax later concluded after half a year that the benefits of Xanax far outweighed the negatives of the medication.
Josiah Cox
Good for you buddy. Hope you don't get in a serious accident and fuck up your spine.
Brody Baker
>japan >insulting others for degeneracy
You are lucky you were born, faggot.
Kevin Price
Sounds good I'll get on it right away...
Gavin Nguyen
Street krokodil does rot your limbs etc since the iodine and phosphorus but chemically pure krokodil won't... although it's still an opioid which isn't what op wants
Hudson Hernandez
hypnosis
you can do surgery n sheet with it.
Andrew Mitchell
I'm an actual Japanese you fucking English teacher.
Your mother is a degenerate and I'm glad she's dead. What kind of parent talks to their son about how they use marijuana. You are literally the definition of degenerate. Probably too fucking stupid to get a real job so you teach English.
Luke Kelly
>hey guise I want pain reduction without drugs though fucking shit that's not happening maybe you should've actually went to a doctor and done what he prescribed instead of self medicating like a moron also remind me what this has to do with politics stay the fuck off this board you cancer
Jace Jones
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Anthony Barnes
Ketamine probably isn't legal for patients since its used as a horse tranquilizer.... also I wouldn't use it for pain relief since entering the k hole doesn't sound fun. Unless you like to be mentally detached from your body (maybe that's what you want?)
William Baker
>you were lucky your born Is that really your best banter? Step it up Pablo. You shouldn't be so angry after all they allow same sex marriage in every state now! So progressive Pablo-San!
Jackson Robinson
Hey OP, I also suffer from constant pain, but in my elbows/forearms. I definitely know what it's like to want that numb feeling. Don't do it! Instead, use things like Ginger (anti-inflammation), MSM powder (repairs joint connections), Turmeric (anti-oxidant and pro-circulatory, Avoid tomatoes (and other inflammatory foods)
Also, do Physical Therapy as much as you can bear. By stressing the body a little bit, you increase your pain tolerance/movement threshold.
Also, if you need to, use Marijuana. If it isn't medically available in your state, order Hash online and make edibles. THC has 20X the antiinflammatory effect of Aspirin. It also won't make you physically dependent like opioids/opiates WILL! Additionally, Opiates increase your sensitivity to pain and prevent nerves from actually healing (did you know?) Well good luck, chronic pain can be miserable but it makes death that much less scary, lol
Joshua Lopez
>euroshit It has everything to do with politics. The DEA proposed a plan to ban Kratom in favor of the pharma companies, stating it has no legitimate purpose. Later they said it does have legitimate medical purposes, which will allow pharmaceutical companies take advantage of the alkaloids in kratom.
Daniel Reyes
What's wrong with marijuana?
Joshua Baker
>I'm an actual Japanese
Gotta be 18 to browse here buddy, preferably older than that mentally even if you are physically, thinking anyone here with a Japanese flag is actually Japanese.
>Probably too fucking stupid to get a real job so you teach English.
I'm off today and waiting for developments in the bomb happenings, if I was some Eikaiwa teacher, I'd be at work like you, just not angry and role-playing a a Japanese person.
Tyler Turner
Educate yourself faggot.
>The evidence supporting the effectiveness of hypnosis in alleviating chronic pain associated with cancer seems strong. In addition, the panel was presented with other data suggesting the effectiveness of hypnosis in other chronic pain conditions, which include irritable bowel syndrome, oral mucositis (pain and swelling of the mucous membrane), temporomandibular disorders [jaw pain], and tension headaches. (NIH, 1995)
There are a million of these studies and meta-analyses.
Isaac Ward
I've tried ginger, turmeric, etc. all worked a bit but not to where my body can handle the pain. It just took a tiny edge off. Done intensive physical therapy, never helped me out just made the pain worse. Weed and all its concentrates are legal here and none kill the pain to where I am physically capable, even CBD, kratom is the only thing I've found that does this for me. I heard about some seeds that affect the opioid receptors in your brain much like kratom and block pain but doesn't get you "fucked up" Anyone know what this seed is? I'd like to try that.
Isaiah Perry
why not just commit suicide? your life seems miserable. sometimes the best choice is the last choice
Isaac Baker
Kratom is shit. Just makes me need to sleep. Not tired. Not sleepy. It starts knocking me out. That and being queasy from the nasty taste are the only effects
Thomas Martinez
dear fucking god that bitch is hot.
Zachary Wood
shouldnt science have decent painkillers by now that arent highly addictive and life destroying
At least try to stop them so you can go ahead and be dependent on a leaf to live.
Henry Morgan
oh yeah, besides just hypnotherapy, acupuncture works too.
look this shit up. try it out.
Sebastian Williams
Kratom will still be very easy to get if your not a stupid nigger.
Easton Edwards
I'll give you a hint Jeff my last name is 中村.
Also you just admitted to being an English teacher. Are you too stupid to learn our language?日本語難しいね?
So your in Japan doing a white monkey job and your literally not killing yourself why? Literally any bigger can be an English teacher. You don't even need a visa just come as a tourist. I would not be proud of being a walking stereotype.
Dylan Ortiz
>bigger Meant to write nigger as in your as dumb as a nigger(possibly dumber).
Nathaniel Garcia
I have friends and family that care about me too much. I can never do anything to hurt them,emotionally or physically. My best friend committed suicide in front of me in high school. I don't want to make my loved ones go through the same pain I went through with my best friend. If they somehow all died at the same time I might consider it, but until then suicide is not an option.
John Cook
It affects everyone differently, I had the opposite experience.
Nathaniel Wilson
Btw I am OP, phone died All I am asking is for a non-degenerate way to ease my pain. I might try out the meditation stuff, better than drugs. I just need something, otherwise I'll have to turn into a literally deplorable NEET and quit work. I want to continue being productive, and I don't want mind altering drugs. I just need a way to ease pain efficiently.
Liam Edwards
そんなに難しくないよ。もう何年前にN1とったぞ.
今日、学校休み?もっと勉強しなさい、英会話の猿。
Anyway, this isn't a role-playing thread, it's about OPs pain management, so I'll ignore you and your forced spelling errors that you're doing to pretend you're native Japanese now. Keep that shit in Cred Forums
Does just everything hurt? If not, some kind of focused meditation listening may help.
