How do we improve Russian-American relations?

Do pic related to every city then resettle the area with poles and Ukrainians.

I want to Hajime Hajime's Hajimes.

STOP FUCKING WITH THE FORMULA BRIAN!

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bend over
lube up

Elect the person they like more.
It's not just about Trump either. Republicans are the only ones who seem to speak Russian. Everyone else is too high up on their pulpits.

Nuke Russia.

Dump king Nigger and elect Trump. But in all honesty, their economy is shit and they're on borrowed time unless something changes.

Over your dead bodies.

civil war 2 with russia backing the rebels

>tfw we might live to see Russia become the 51st state

America seeks to isolate Russia such that it's only real friend is China. This forces Russia to be weak on illegal immigration by Chinese immigrants. At some point these immigrants will reach a critical point where they have an impact on Russian dialogue. Russian nationalists will have no love for these new Chinese voices. This will cause lots of frictions within Russia. The end goal is having Russia fragment into more manageable states with some on the side of the globalists and the rest remaining with China.

this

>2016
>wanting to improve your relations with slavshit-mongol subhumans

Exactly. Why compromise with them or bend our knees to seek better relations, when if anything it should be Putin on his knees kissing our feet. They're a crumbling, increasingly relevant economic disaster of a country and it's honestly best to just let them fade into obscurity by cucking them at every opportunity.

Did I say relevant? I mean't irrelevant. Sorry.

Get that allah worshipping patio primate out of the whitehouse.

Yeah but literally most of the world hates America. Work with Russia or fuck off.

Easy. Start with removing Jackson–Vanik amendment that should have been gone 25 years ago.
For those who don't know
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson–Vanik_amendment

Who needs love when you have modern day vassals? Isn't that right Britain? And you know what else? Fuck the rest of the world, we could and would take the entire world if we had tom, and if that were to somehow fail we'd just nuke the world ten times over. It's funny how your average American is more scared of terrorism than literally any other nation on Earth. I used to think British people were all right, now you're turning pink on us.

why is there so many """""alt-rights""""" are pro russia?

just because based putin meme?

Mate, most of your country is people with no loyalty to America. Good luck maintaining that future world empire of yours but don't expect to be like Rome, you'll be more like Mongolia.

>How do we improve Russian-American relations?

conquer Russia once again

And I personally love America in theory. A country born from a bloody revolution, made of a immigrants who assimilated and created what the US is today - but I tell no lies sir. Most of the world does hate you.

Read past the first paragraph next time.

>In December 2012, the Magnitsky Act was signed into law by President Obama, repealing the Jackson–Vanik amendment.[1]

all must reject their satanic gods
there is one god of light
he makes an appearence in every book

sadly all the books about me have burnt by that bad guy you worship
he actually hates you you know, he thinks your stupid and enjoys fucking with you.

I actually love you all, and you need no faith to believe in the path of light it exists

as does my avatar
kekekekekekekkeek

whats my name?

This.
Praise kek

Never understand why you and polish are always butthurt for Russia

>Never understand why you and polish are always butthurt for Russia

to understand, what is wrong with russia, you need to live near russia

Oh I know the world hates us. But half of them hate us for one reason, and half of them hate us for another, and we can't and won't please them. And despite what you hear on Cred Forums most Americans, even some of the most liberal pussies around, support our military dominance and are at least far more tied to our country than people in Britain feel about theirs. If we're mostly liberal pussies, then what does that make Europe, because you're far, far worse. You're a socialist state who runs at the sight of a butter knife. And you hate us for that? Well, fuck that. And if you hate us for any other reasons I'd love to hear it.

That's because you're too fucking retarded to pick up a history book you stupid spic.

Join NATO

Butthurt Euros/10

don't elect hillary.

>select all storefronts
>KEBAB JOINT

America is far worse for people who are against patriotism because Britain has a genuine claim to being in those lands. Lefties can always bring up the Native American shit regarding the US. And as for the majority of Americans wanting military dominance - as I said - expect a generation or two of prosperous civilisation and then a complete collapse because half of the world DOES hate America, and a lot of your own citizens don't like America. You're no Rome. Like I said, fucking Mongolia part 2.

Oh and just some education on British gun laws.

1) In my experience, it's easier to get a gun in a market town, village or in the countryside than in a city.
2) Shotguns are legal as long as you have a gun safe & have them and ammo registered with police. You get a Shotgun License for them. This only applies to shotties with 2 shot magazine, anything more requires a Firearm License
3) Pistols and revolvers are banned (anything with barrel length under 12 inches). Only pest control, police and military can own pistols (Pest control only allowed revolvers with a special permit, not allowed a G17 or USP45 etc). This is due to the 1990s Dunblane shooting.
4) Fully Automatic weapons are banned, out right. Armed Police and Military only.
5) Rifles with barrel length over 12 inches require a Firearms License. These can be of any calibre up to .50 BMG, they must be bolt action, carry a magazine of no more than 5 rounds and all ammo must be registered with police.
6) Blunt weapons aren't banned as no ban is feasibly enforcable. Police will stop and ask you why you are carrying a baseball bat/cricket bat around if you appear to have criminal intent.

>And I personally love America in theory. Most of the world does hate you.

those "most of the world" is mainly consist of dumb commies/leftyshit, degenerate islamists and other sorts of savages

really, just look at every single "enemy of the USA":
DPRK, China, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Russia etc
all of them can be dscibed by terms i mentioned above

they are undeveloped, barbaric, delusional

Came here to post this. We might not agree with Russia on everything but we need to focus on our common enemy.

Nice argument retard
>muh capitalism vs communism
>duuurrr commies bad
>duurrr Russia is bad

I agree. Hey, I don't know how I'm being held up as some anti-American cuntbucket here. I only stated the facts.

It was typical arrogance from the Americucks here, talking about how Russia should kiss their feet, when in reality they should be working hand in hand since Russia is clearly on the west's side in the fight against Islam.

All I'm saying is, don't be an arrogant fuckwit and don't actually expect an American Empire to work, because great empires can only hold up with a shared identity.

I have nothing against America or your average nationalist American though.

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Are you seriously this retarded or do you not know what Russia did in literally both Poland and the Ukraine....

If you don't "get" why they despise Russia then blow your brains now please.

I know you beaners are fucking useless, but come on....

So? You think living near the most racist country and drug consumer is better? They literally have stolen our oil using corruption and now try to steal our water to be used on california and shale extraction, so how russia can be worst that that user

I know history retard, thats the point still living on 20th century? Still believing that Rus Kiev still exists? Still believing on red menace? There is no point to be still butthurt they are independent and still blaming Russia for everything ...

underrated

Russia + USA = Hawaii?

>America as it currently stands
>Russia as it currently stands
>any chance at all of positive relations
How to show everyone that you know shit about geopolitics, by OP

You dumb, naiive, kid no matter your age.

>Still believing on red menace?
>implying a change of government changes Russia's interests
Another moron who doesn't know anything about geopolitics. The Empire, the Union, modern Russia, it behaves the same.

>implying USA doesnt do the same shit on America and Europe.
>but US is better because i say so.
>forcing coups on South america the whole 20th ventyry for US interest.
>every mexican government must obey US interest ogherwise he will be found "suicided" with 3 shots in the head
Another retard american who believes on american exceptionalism

>So? You think living near the most racist country and drug consumer is better?

yes, for several reasons:

1) they don't try to conquer your country sending lunatic commie militia
2) they don't impose their batshit neocommunistic eurasianism ideas (nobody adequate cares about)
3) i doubt they ban products you export to them for no reason (russia does this everytime)
4) most probably, they dont drastically rise the prices of main product they export to you (again, for no rason)

>drug consumer

5) also culture of KROKODIL

most people can say that ukraine is no better, and it's government is dumb,
most probably they would be right,
but i assure you, russian govt is fucking insane

>implying USA doesnt do the same shit on America and Europe.
>but US is better because i say so

they do,
and US satellites economically, feel much better, than Russia's ones

>1) they don't try to conquer your country sending lunatic commie militia
that's exactly what US still doing on mexican border and using economical pressure since Mexico exists.
>2) they don't impose their batshit neocommunistic eurasianism ideas (nobody adequate cares about)
uh ,what? did you Know that US forced to mexico to join NAFTA knowing that that shit didnt fit to us, and didnt care anyway because they will get a lot of money?
>3) i doubt they ban products you export to them for no reason (russia does this everytime)
again , read NAFTA.
>4) most probably, they dont drastically rise the prices of main product they export to you (again, for no rason
again read NAFTA , they do this everytime.
so you are telling me the same story.

>but i assure you, russian govt is fucking insane
>Who is OBAMA?, WHO is Brezinski,who is clinton? who is soros?

trust me you think Russia is worst only because you dont have US slaving you in every shape or form

>US satellites economically, feel much better, than Russia's ones
uh ?
like which one? Mexico?Chile? Colombia? or just applies to Europe? sorry but Ukraine is not better on economics since the coup on 2014

I think that Cred Forums fundamentally and frequently misunderstands why countries conduct themselves certain ways around others.
For example, go into any naziboo thrwad and you'll see brits lamenting why they didn't side up with Germany
Or these kinds of Russo-American friendship threads

Some countries simply cannot cooperate for the sole fact that they need to keep themselves powerful.
Just like Britain couldn't have a strong continental power, America can't have a unifying Eurasian country

) they don't try to conquer your country sending lunatic commie militia
>that's exactly what US still doing on mexican border and using economical pressure since Mexico exists.

but nobody waves US flag in Mexico, but a lot of mexs waving mexican flag in US part of Caliophornia

) they don't impose their batshit neocommunistic eurasianism ideas (nobody adequate cares about)
>uh ,what? did you Know that US forced to mexico to join NAFTA

still no american armed militia bombing north cities of Tijuana, telling mexicans they are non-existing nation and need to surrender all their territories to US, because they said so

) i doubt they ban products you export to them for no reason (russia does this everytime)
>again , read NAFTA.

u got me there, i really don't know what is NAFTA and where to read about it

) most probably, they dont drastically rise the prices of main product they export to you (again, for no rason
>again read NAFTA , they do this everytime.

does NAFTA means, that US increase the price of their main product they export to you for 100-400% if you don't want to surrender your territories to them?

>>Who is OBAMA?, WHO is Brezinski,who is clinton? who is soros?

Obongo is an aftermath of soviet propaganda, Brzhchzhzhezhzhinsky is actually a genius, who invented the plan of ruining the Sovok

>trust me you think Russia is worst only because you dont have US slaving you in every shape or form

They poorer than US,
The're more corrupt, than US
They're more authoritharian than US,
They are still a commies with Lenin mummy in red ziggurat and insane laws criminalizing any criticism towards soviets

>>US satellites economically, feel much better, than Russia's ones
>uh ?
>like which one? Mexico?Chile? Colombia?

comparing to Cuba, Venezuela (they are still under heavy russian influence)

>cuba still on communism.
>venezuela communist wannabe.
>russian influence
not economical blackmail like US does to the rest who wants to change anything

VODKA

>but nobody waves US flag in Mexico.
you havent been in mexico .

>still no american armed militia bombing north cities of Tijuana
US has invaded mexico 3 times, dont talk about our stolen lands, ok?
>telling mexicans they are non-existing nation and need to surrender all their territories to US, because they said so
Do you know the full story of texas, literally that happened ...
>does NAFTA means, that US increase the price of their main product they export to you for 100-400% if you don't want to surrender your territories to them?
yep, they do everytime they want to punish us if we dont follow their interests.
the rest i admit, US has economic power but that doesnt mean that they share with the rest, they have authoritarism disguised as human rights.
i agree in one thing, russians and russian sphere are more corrupt, i have lived that on Kazahstan while i was there

Just a question. As far as I understand the maidan protests happened because Ukrainians wanted closer alignment with EU. After all the dust settled Ukraine doesn't seem to be closer to EU but in utter shambles economically and politically. What was the point of the revolution if things turned to worse? Europe is just ignoring Ukraine, Russia is pissed and retaliating like there's no tomorrow, and Ukraine's economy is in death spiral. Can it be that Ukraine was just a pawn to piss off Russia and create a 50mil market for European goods?

Obamas third term

>not economical blackmail like US does to the rest who wants to change anything

implying russkies don't economically blackmailing anybody

most members of their Eurasian Customs Union were forced to join it, and still delaying every their step to making it fully working

Get a room so you can pity fuck each other while complaining about Russia and the US

how about you join NATO?

>US has invaded mexico 3 times, dont talk about our stolen lands, ok?

We took land from you after you literally attacked us first. You started the wars and then bitch and moan because you got your asses handed to you. And yes, we marched right through Mexico City like it was a cakewalk and if we were so hellbent on annexing all of Mexico we would've done it a looooong time ago. Get over yourselves, you worthless shits. This is why you'll never amount to anything great, because you just blames others for all your problems. Get a job that isn't mowing lawns in my country and do something productive for Mexico so that maybe one day it won't be the international joke it is now.

this, no one i know has any qualms with Russia, what the fuck should we treat you as enemies for? Because you kill muds? People in this country like dead muslims

Get fucked.

Because people don't believe that Russia's only purpose is to take down US. This type of rhetoric works with boomers who grew up during the Cold War. It still gets the votes but younger people don't see Russia as the biggest enemy. It's not that people are pro Russia per se, they just point out that he is not that bad compared to other world leaders and compared to US administration he is pretty good. People are just fed up with "we must destroy Russia before they destroy us".

>mommy Paco attacked me, now i am excused to steal everything from him and can say i did the correct.
enjoy Mexico 2.0

It's called spoils of war. Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes. At this point we've owned it longer than you ever have anyways. Funny how you see no problem with Poland/Ukraine's attitude with Russia because of something that happened a couple decades ago.....and yet here you are, bitching about something that happened a couple centuries ago. Shut the fuck up already.

Nobody is scared of you Paco. We have your greatest generals leg in a 3rd rate museum in the Midwest.

not bitching anything retard, you just mad because i campared you with the same game that you and russia always play, but always USA likes to say that US interests are good for everyone, which are not.

>scared of you .

literally , why should you ?
>generals.
against legal mexicans immigrants?
kek

>US has invaded mexico 3 times, dont talk about our stolen lands, ok?

when was it?

>Do you know the full story of texas, literally that happened ...

simply saing - war between Spain and Britain

>yep, they do everytime they want to punish us if we dont follow their interests.

examples plox,
russia raises the price for their vespene gas from 200 to 500 bucks per 1000 cubic meters and be like "we couldn't lower it back until you do what we say"

>the rest i admit, US has economic power but that doesnt mean that they share with the rest, they have authoritarism disguised as human rights.

human rights is their universal reson to intervene (but in most cases their "victim" really has human rights violations)

You're right. Spoils of war. Rewriting history isn't in anyone's interest because once you open this can of worms new wars will follow. Nations will try to reclaim what they CONSIDER rightfully theirs

Did I say that? No. I don't give a fuck about the rest of the world's interests. I hate Russians because I know Russians in general hate us, and because I know at the first opportunity to stab us in the back they absolutely would. I live in American, and I care about Americans and our interests, I don't give much about what's best for Mexicans etiher because you clearly don't like us either, so what interest is it of ours to give you the "right way of life". Enjoy living in your third world shithole. I and every other American will just go back to ignoring you and the rest of the world, until you piss us off enough to notice you.

Just like Russia with Crimea right? And now look at Ukraine.

>when was it?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican–American_War

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Veracruz

>human rights is their universal reson to intervene (but in most cases their "victim" really has human rights violations)
>mexican politician who was against privatization of mexican oil to American Oil companies was found dead "suicided" and the law was passed and approved after that.
sure.

> I know Russians in general hate us
i have been in Kazakhstans and i have met russians and chechens and the only retards who believes russian hate americans are the the retard americans.
>Enjoy living in your third world shithole
i do, enjoying tax paid health care :D
>m-m-m-muh america is better , y-y-you shut up paco i am better t-t-than you

Lol fucking join NATO

undermine the western political establishment in every way.

Sacrifice both Putin and Obama at a pyre to Kek.

0.25 western shekelz have been deposited into your account, Mr. Ukropchyk

I can prove we're better than you with one single question.

How many Americans do you see hopping the border into Mexico? Here's the answer. None! Because Mexico is a shithole. Congrats on your "free" healthcare, have fun dying anyways because you either a) have to wait in a line for the next month or b) have a shitty Mexican doctor and get aids because any educated human worth their salt gets the fuck out of your garbage country at the first opportunity. Plus we're not poor niggers like you, most of us can afford and pay for quality healthcare.

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>I can prove we're better than you with one single question.How many Americans do you see hopping the border into Mexico?
>we're not poor niggers like you
try harder

Remove the leaders in charge and unite the people. Problem solved.

And yet you can't deny it. Look at that.

Actually that is pretty solid.

You can't argue with that logic.

Except you made all those implications up and they are nowhere to be found in my post.

was expecting to you understand how mad you are because i compared you with Russia and you started bitching about and suddenly called my country shithole expecting that as an argument.

should i continue my american retarded friend?

>Blah blah blah story of Texas
Oh you mean the story where you repealed your Constitution without consent from your states and 6 states rebelled with Texas and Yucatan gaining full Independence. That one?

>All those restrictions.
>W-we're not that c-cucked!
To give you an idea of just how restricted you are, black powder weapons don't even count as guns in America. Let that sink in Nigel.

We don't want your clay and your spics.

yes, that one, where US gave weapons to americans and went to steal texas, that one.

Honestly not a bad idea since all they seem to do is leech off of us.

>implying we want americans .
>bb-b-b-but you come to take our dolla's,then you must love us.

US is NATO though so thats not possible. You join NATO instead faggot.

I'm sure we can supply you with enough vodka.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican–American_War

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Veracruz

nah, prehistoric times

I'm not even a little mad. I don't get mad at Mexicans the same way I wouldn't get mad at a child. You're both just too stupid to be expected to understand things. If anything I feel a little sorry for you. You're always going to be a subhuman, living in a subhumans world, while the truly great nations like mine step all over your countries like it's our own personal playground. You will always be salty as fuck towards us, because you know that deep down, we're superior to you in every single way.

Checked!

loyal Puerto Rican here, fuck off Mexican, we all know your the worst of the worst, mezito hicks.your garbage from a nation of garbage who failed at literally everything it has every tried or done, your the magma of all Latino's everywhere.

Ah the one where France was the first country to officially recognize Texas as a independent state, cool. Tell the story of the Republic of Rio Grande next.

same as the Ukraine and Russia .

sometimes i think this russia-US drama is all a lie and they are just acting and have a one goal
globalism

just look at russia, why are they corrupt?
why russia is accepting black immigrants and muslims immigrants?

there is no reason

>same as the Ukraine and Russia .

2013 wasn't two centuries ago

>i'm not even a little mad.
> just too stupid to be expected to understand things
>continue replying.
>using the same ((((argument)))).
geez, keep trying,kek

Wouldn't that make China a more powerful rival to the US?

>Mexican OIL taken by US companies.
>2012.
and the list continues my slav friend

This thread it's a good example of the problems you americans have with russia.

Everytime Russia gets mentioned you return to cold war politics like it still meants something, Russian people has all the rights to be afraid of Nato Missiles and troops right next to them like you did during the Cuban crisis.

This cold war politics are used to this very day, to scare people on the voting day.

The whole, my empire is holier than you attitude doesn't help at all.

America isn,t the empire it's supposed to be, it doesn't has the reach or influence it just to had, everyone hates their guts and not only the "enemies" of freedom.

But no one wants to attack you that's just your internal paranoia that has grown out of control over the years, for having politics justifing to many shit, with fearmongering and terrorism.

We need to pull the anti-balistic missile err missiles away from Russia. I think we have some in Poland.

If there are any Poles here, what would you guys want in exchange for removing them? A larger standing American military presence?

Anyway the Russians figure our Anti-ballistic missile systems have the potential to turn our defensive (MAD) nuclear arsenal into a 1st strike weapons system. Given they have been raped a couple times by invaders they don't like that at all.

drop an anchor baby somewhere, mezito garbage

>Puerto Rican
discarded argument ,daddy yankee

Why can't we just team up with Russia and dominate the entire planet, just like the picture?

????
ok tyrone
????

>Russian people has all the rights to be afraid of Nato Missiles and troops right next to them like you did during the Cuban crisis.

Maybe that's because practically every single country around them who has suffered under Russia's influence is begging for missiles and nukes on their soil. Who's fault is that?

we earned out right to American citizenship many times over, El Chappo.Go worship your druglords in your failed state.

Lol fuck you nigger
If trump gets in you're even more fucked damn spic
It's your own damn fault you let cartels take over your fucking country and then you got pounded by the US

Yeah but China is nothing without their shipping trade, and the USN can shut them down any day the order is given.

Dropping the sanctions we have on them for assisting Assad would also be friendly.

Russia is poorer than Australia and is basically irrelevant outside their immediate borders

Maybe they should've thought about that before invading literally everyone around them.

We ARE NATO

w.e you say daddy yankee, i dont care your opinion

thanks for the one-sided argument, texas

you really have a great grasp of the issues

Yeah, I know. Still, we should do it other than shitty pointless games with them like we're children. It's getting annoying.

And look how completely fucked you are.

It's the nuclear stockpile. That's the only reason they still matter.

I'd really like to improve relations by starting with a Russian gf.

Can I reliably use vk to find a nice waifu?

I will learn Russian with her and help her with English, pls Vlad

Yeah if it were up to me they'd be our greatest ally

This, desu.

I mean literally, a thousand different ideologies all armed, and it's only the niggers I ever see shooting. Go and do something with your completely unrestricted gun laws then. In the UK, weapon laws are for genuine self defense reasons or hunting.

>But no one wants to attack you that's just your internal paranoia that has grown out of control over the years, for having politics justifing to many shit, with fearmongering and terrorism.

There are a lot of "partners" that wants and attacks them like everyday:

Hacker attacks from China,
Influencing the elections and opinions by Saudis (Huma Abedin, Hillary campaign financing) and Russia (Carter Page, Paul Manafort)

every of these motherfuckers sleeps and sees themselves defeating USA and replacing the throne of world hegemony by themselves

Elect new leaders. Russian american relations are fine except for on capitol hill.

sure you do, it's why your here defending your garbage pile of a nation. Mestizo the Mexicunt ain't got shit on daddy yankee, we got what you so desperately want, American citizenship from birth. Tell your brethren they need to try harder to be Puerto Ricans

>Implyi-
Wait, I don't even know what you're implying.

send me a qt russian gf

They did that as a buffer. 20 million Russians died in WWII. ?right? That was the second time they were saved from annihilation just by their winter.

I am not saying their commie asses didn't deserve a good kicking during the cold war, but their mentality is shaped by their history.

Well said Sir :D

They will never know what horrors the Ukrainians, Poles, Baltoids ands Finns have had to deal with. I don't know what went wrong when the Russians were made. They were probably created by the Hwan Empire and genetically engineered to look like slavs but contain all the worst nigger genes that makes nigger act like niggers.

i think you are not getting that i am not even reading you retard.keep posting anyway since you are too retard to understand.
>cant even talk proper english.
>cant even talk proper spanish.
>being a US colony.
>not even considered as part of US .

What I said in my last comment. So many different ideologies, and the only people I see shooting are the people who hate America (niggers and spics). Also what I said, in the UK, weapon laws are for genuine self defense or hunting. Probably not a popular opinion on Cred Forums, but for all my not so popular beliefs, having unrestricted access to firearms certainly isn't one. Atleast not in Britain.

I think handguns should be legal though, so does UKIP. That's why I've voted for them the last four elections.

Just buy one senpai.

This.

Try being the successful ones living next to a bunch of corrupt gib-me-dats whose major claim to fame is
>we aren't as bad as niggers
followed by
>take us in!

You fuckwads are too stupid to make full use of us like the syrup commies do, and yet you want to blame us for all your troubles.

>too retard
Alright you can kill yourself now.

lol, you just read and responded to what I said, mexicunt. We are Americans, we can leave Puerto Rico anytime we want, unlike that roach-den you call a "nation" Keep the anchor babies comin, we need garners. somebody's got to do the slave labor around here. You are literally the worst of the worst when it comes to Latinos.

Russia tried to join NATO I thought and wasn't allowed (it literally being an organization created to combat russian military influence.)

Welp. They lost the war. They literally would be doing the exact same thing to us, if not worse, than what we're doing right now. You don't get to try Uncle just because the results didn't turn out in your favor. Why should we back off after we've already won?

Why should we ban guns? It's proven that banning them only increases violent crime, why would any normal man want that?

You've already proven yourself to be a fool by wanting handguns to be legal, despite the fact that most violent crime is committed using pistols. Those desires don't correlate.

It's really difficult to find Ukraine in history books.

I didn't say America should ban guns. I said the UK shouldn't legalize all guns you arrogant shit. Not everything is about the US.

Maybe not in a Russian revisionist history book.

You're being trolled by ctr like faggots.

You make a good point.
I hope that Trump tries Clinton for Treason and Hillary, Loretta Lynch, Erich Holder, and Obama get executed for what they did to y'all. Operation Fast and Furious pisses me off so much

try to find it in any other

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The current American goal seem to be to completely emasculate Russia. The American Imperialist government want its economic and military hegemony to cover every corner of the globe. They do not want any sort of independent entity. China is kept to heel via trade.

The fact that Snowden could run to Russia, or that some faction could support Syria in any way is heresy to some faction deep within the US government.

I really don't see how independent countries cannot negotiate with one another. I am more frightened of a single global economic and political hegemony. The very core of America is competition and evolution. I don't thing the world should be without it.

You said you only want handguns to become fully legalized, which by default means to want other banned guns to remain banned. This includes but is not limited to magazine capacity and barrel length. 5 rounds is dog shit, I wouldn't use a Nerf gun that held less than 6.

I repeat my question, why should they be banned. Why though? Literally, why?

by electing trump

I respect Russian tenacity, but you guys are naïve at times. Still badass, but naïve

I doubt it, hence why the last guy jumped straight to assuming I want or care about guns being banned in America.

Yeah, basically. Cred Forumstards are not very smart and they are so frustrated they appreciate a dictatorship just because it doesn't allow sjw shit.

They're such social cucks they can't openly reject the swj culture they hate, they don't have the courage. But they think they would survive in a country like a prison, in which you are free to drink yourself to death, since you don't have any real freedom.

How about you join NATO.
Problem solved.

I want handguns to be legal (too). Shotguns are already legal and Rifles with a barrel under 12 inch are legal. A Firearms License is piss easy to get in Northumberland because it's just mountains and grass and medieval villages.

I have no doubt they would use any advantage they had against us in any way possible.

We should back off because might does not make right.

We have seen our failure in trying to impose our will on the middle east. Why try to impose it on every civilization on the entire planet.

We should be fixing our own domestic problems, and encourage collaboration from a position of economic strength, not at the end of a bayonet.

I am just deeply suspicious of unconstrained power, certainly even that wielded by my own government.

Americans can help improve relations with Russia by voting for Donald Trump.

How about 'Putin tried but America said no'

Russia votes against us in the UN every fucking chance they get. They align themselves politically with countries that have claimed us as enemies.
All this pining for happy Russia-U.S. relations is fucking retarded. Fuck, they essentially have an open invitation for good relations, but the CHOOSE to shit on it before they mail it back every couple of months.

>barrel under 12 inch are legal
That's bullshit. The only reason for said restriction is to make a happy feel good solution. Even worse are magazine capacity limits. Bull-fucking-shit.

Repill incoming limey. Open wide. youtu.be/MCSySuemiHU

You wouldn't need to get involved in the Middle East if it weren't for Israel. But Israel is treating you like their war robot, pushing your buttons, deciding your foreign policy.

No, it's to stop just anybody being able to get hold of a gun. And it works.

Because the US promote globalization and unification of all the world.

Obama gets removed from office automatically as part of the democratic process of electing the US president.

I love this pic. What is this from? Did they dogfight??

> I don't give a fuck about the rest of the world
Typical. Then don't be surprised when all these people who suffered because of your geo-political interests one day decide to return some of the pain. Oh wait, 9/11 already happened. I sure hope that the reasonable people prevail in your country, because if they won't we will see the fall of your great empire this century, and it will be terrible for all civilized countries, including my own.

You can get a barrel over 12 inches by getting a firearms license, which like I said, if you live in a village, or in the country, they're piss easy to get.

You better voter for Trump then. Hillary will only make matters worse.

>We have seen our failure in trying to impose our will on the middle east.

That depends what you define as failure. The Middle East is a divided, poor shithole stuck in eternal in-fighting and civil war. Our enemies are all too busy trying to put the pieces of their pathetic country's back together only for us to come and knock it all down the very second they get close. To me, that's not failure, that's playing the game and winning. Victory doesn't always come when you declare the war over and plant your flag.

Your cartels kill your officials since the cartels run that lawless third world shithole you live in, fucking border bunny. Remember, it's you roaches flocking here illegally, not the other way around. That alone tells you which country is a steaming pile of shit.

Silly Pedro.

By electing Trump, lads.

Atleast they suck up to fellow Mexican drug dealers and not sand kikes on the other side of the world.

Well that sucks man.
It's too bad U.S. politicians are such assholes.

t. slavshit subhuman

That's not the point, you brainless drone.

MORE GUNS IN THE POSSESSION OF CIVILIANS RESULTS IN LESS VIOLENT CRIME, LESS ROBBERY, AND LESS DEATH. YOU'RE RESTRICTION DO NOTHING BUT ENABLE CRIMINALS, MAKE JOBS HARDER ON THE POLICE, AND ALLOW TYRANNY TO FLOURISH.

Fuuuuuck. This has to be bait.

I sure as hell hope not, but I agree, Slav Americans can be arrogant at times but have some hope, Trump is bound to win at this point unless they steal the election. There is hope yet to avoid conflict

>How do we improve Russian-American relations?
Is this a joke question?
Ok.....Remove all US troops from countries bordering Russia and bring them home and put them on our southern border, stop interfering in the internal affairs of Ukraine, and stop funding anyone in Syria.

And I just save us a bunch of money, and from WWIII.

We have broken many promises with Russia, the ABM shield in eastern Europe for one.

I don't care about good Russian relations, but relations should certainly be cordial between the globes two nuclear powers.

We fought the Soviet Unions Communist doctrine because it was expansionist. The avowed goal of which was to topple every government.

How is our attempt to exert leverage over all other countries via economics or trade or treaty (IMF, TPP), or via military threat any different.

I will allow that the US has been more restrained than perhaps any other civilization would be, were they in our shoes; but that does not mean the end goal of a global US dictated hegemony is proper or even achievable.

Yes, your beautiful non-violent country proves this.

Maybe if Russia wasn't aggressively pursuing every avenue allowing it to increase its sphere of influence and didn't have wetdreams of conquering eastern europe again the west would cease sanctioning it and Russian-Western relations could improve.

But of course no, I'm so silly, Russia a good boi, he dindu nuffin

says the Brit who eats kike shit?

It's worth noting we don't want or need your shitty gun laws. They wouldn't work in Britain anyway. Exaggerations to go as far to say butter knives are banned are just that: exaggerations. I'm more or less happy with the gun laws we have. Perhaps more restrictions in London to stop illegal trade.

We do. But so do you.

realize that russia and us have many common enemies, and nothing to fight over at all anymore?

my point exactly

I'm cheering for Trump, not because I like strong leaders, I actually am quite anti-Putin, you guys don't really know much about him unfortunately, he's not that badass ex-kgb super agent he tries to identify as. I cheer for Trump because he might be able to raise your GDP, and higher American GDP means higher GDPs across the world, even here.

Or you know, the autocratic dicta- err, president. That whole thing...

So kikes or drug dealers?

i mean, really, who gives a fuck about Ukraine in the us. bet easily 2/3 Americans couldn't find Ukraine on a map

even if Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan were labeled "no, not here retard"

PRAISE KEK

We aren't such cucks to betray our national interests just to get Western money.

you don't get it do you, slimy limey?

Answer the question you fat fuck.

i hope we do end up improving relations between us and russia, that will only mean good things. king nigger has done a terrible job thus far

I supported going into Iraq because it was a chance to build a stable, wealthy civilization in the center of the middle east.

When Bush said, "hey man we just wanted Saddam, we ain't doing nation building" we prostituted what I considered to be American ideals.

We properly put a shield over Europe, and fought in Korea and Vietnam because deep down every motherfucker just wanted to be an American. (or so we believed).

Human life should be about more than nihilism. We should build, not destroy. If that meant turning Iraq into a colony for 60 years until they could become a stable country, that is what we should have done.

By lighting the middle east on fire we prostitute the ideals we promulgated during the cold war.

We admit our shared love for explosions and for bullying and destroying smaller, weaker people, and we team up to go wreak havoc on our shared competitors, starting with killing 2 billion Chinese, then a billion Arabs, and finally wiping out every African so we can split the continent in two and own it.

We will mark the border by laying out bottles of good old American whiskey and Russian vodka. We will have many wild drinking parties.

Not saying that you shouldn't. But when I hear Putin going "omg you guys you are being so unfair to us don't you see you are literally cornering us and forcing us all into WWIII" is ridiculous. He can act in what he considers being Russia's best interests, but he's well fucking aware that some of those things involve pissing the West off. And in that case, crying over sanctions is real fucking disingenuous. He's literally pissing against the wind and blaming all but himself.

You wot m8?

If by sucking up you mean bombing sandniggers where we want and when we want and laugh at you spineless jellyfish that start shedding tears as your countries institute Shariah, you may be on to something. Or you snaggletoothed limeys got some seriously good drugs. Either way, let's have a cup of tea, yours is in Boston harbor.

>wouldn't be involved in the middle east if not for Israel

We have been involved in that cancer of a region since at least WW1, arguably even longer considering British and French influence in the area as well.

If you are going to name the Jew, at least name the right one.

Why do West care so much about Eastern Europe? Stay on your fucking hemisphere and don't put your nose in our business. Fucking puppets of Soros, wake up people!

None of those generic insults change the fact that you suck kike dick more so than any other country.

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Your Presidential candidates have to say or act like they support Israel but you're a sovereign country?

Don't post that ugly fucking kike again please.

by electing Hillary Clinton of course

If we became allies, we could literally conqueror the world.

There'd be nobody to stop us and only China to put up a slight fight.

You said nihilism, and that's exactly the lens I view it from. Yes, we could've rebuild Iraq into something, we could of done this, we could have done that, we can and still do have the opportunity to do a lot of things. But does it really matter other than to just play the game of life? Well for me, to keep my standard of living as best as possible, it's in my interests that America has continued dominance over the world. Hell, the US won't be around forever, no country will, neither will the earth, neither will humans. But like I said, play the game and hope your team is doing well, because that is literally all that matters

Fuck me. Earlier it was about America conquering the world, and now it's Russia and America? Fuck Mongolia, it'd be an even greater failure than that. 30 years at the most.

Who the fuck wants to call themselves Russian or American? Especially Russian.

Why the west cares about Eastern Europe isn't relevant to the point I'm making.

There's a fire there. Why is there a fire, should there be a fire, should we try to put the fire out. maybe. But for now, there's a fire. And Russia, completely drunk, walked in and put his hand in the fire, knowing very well what would happen. Then Russia cried over the consequences without taking responsibility for it.

Fuck nato. Nato is the reason we are fucked economically. Owners in America put factories in Mexica/china because of fucking nato. Trump needs to leave nato and make better trade deals across the globe even if it's Putin.

Your Empire committed suicide. Sit the fuck down

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I think that is immoral. From that view, shit just nuke the entire planet and drill though the glass for the minerals we want.

Yes, other nations and societies probably believe as you say. But we are Americans, and we are supposed to be better than that.

But having watched the sociopaths of Obama & company at work I confess that I began to wonder if all of my 'American' ideals are just propaganda leading me to work hard and contribute to the machine. But here we are in the middle of a healthy political revolution, done in the right way for all the right reasons.

So yeah. America is better than the nihilistic views you espouse.

Doesn't quite matter how it all started. The important thing is today, if Israel snoozes you go and bomb one of their enemies.

Why is your personal business if Israel exists or not?

Putin is a tyrant, plain and simple. Why anyone would want to live under that is beyond me.

Yes, so learn from history. Yours wouldn't even get off the ground. If maintaining an Empire were as easy as conquering, then America would have remained a British colony and Rome would have ploughed straight into Asia.

You'd have to give people an incentive to want to be part of your culture, and again, who the fuck would call themselves Russian or American, if they weren't?

I meant "sneezes"

>conquer Russia once again
That didn't seem to work out too well for Hitler and Napoleon, and they had game. I can't think of anything more stupid.

>Places without guns have huge crime
>Places with them have next to none

You're right, it does.

Why does that rule only work in America? It works nowhere in Britain and even in Europe that I can think of, and seeing as Britain is what I'm talking about, that seems all the more relevant.

>You're a socialist state who runs at the sight of a butter knife.
Do't we defend them too? How much does that cost?

>shit just nuke the entire planet and drill though the glass for the minerals we want.

Nah, cause first of all, nuking the planet would have detrimental effects on the U.S. and we would be nuked right back, but also, because I go by the simple code "treat others how you want to be treated", but that also means to "treat others how they treat you". Personally, I give every person I meet the benefit of the doubt, and would almost never do wrong to them without a reason. The problem is plenty of people in Russia and the Middle East, or at least their governments which represents them as a whole, do in fact wish harm on me. Therefore, I'm fine with my country taking preemptive measures to deal with it.

Sorry, you what?

Quit your jabbering. America is the successor of the Roman Empire, which thrived because it integrated everyone (right up until it failed to do so). We may go the way of the Roman Empire, drowning in blood, treason and corruption, or we may succeed where they failed.

But don't compare yourself to us. You were a parasite island that stole and plundered the world's resources and put any defenseless natives to the sword. It was great work for a great navy, but it wasn't Empire any more than piracy's vassals are an empire.

The remnants of Britain's Empire are some flags here and there, some language here and there. But American culture is dominant the world over, China and Russia are basically copying us and everyone is fleeing towards us and investing in us.

They both made the mistake of attacking during the winter. They were too confident nothing could stop them.

The Russians didn't even dare fight them, they let the cold winter do its work.

Because America has millions of guns in the country and a land border to a failed state that will smuggle guns. You could never remove guns from America, so you need to operate on a system of equalization. If everyone can have a gun, all types of violent crime are deterred. If you ban guns, the chances of someone resisting violent crime even not involving guns plummet.

I'm going to take the bait and say that if you're on Cred Forums, and complain about British colonalism spreading western civlisation, I'd just fuck off.

>drowning in blood, treason and corruption
Bit more complicated than that.

Israel is one of our very few strongholds in the region. Given how our other "allies" are the fucking Saudis and the Turks, I'm quite happy going with the Jew given those options.

We know what the Jew does, so we know what to expect, not to mention the Jew gets shit done. You just have to keep an eye on the Jew.

Why do we know this? Because we are Jew, too. Why is the US/Israeli relationship such a mystery?

>51st state bringin the bants

Which is why I've been talking about Britain (where I live) for every reply I've made, and not America (which I've never visited and have no plans to in the recent future).

I. don't. care. about. American. gun. laws.
I just don't want to see them implemented in Britain, at all.

America imperialism is the result of the end of European colonialism. Rome is too far in the past to claim we spawned from them, though I think it is fair to say we used their ideas to form our own.

fuck off you cunt, I'm as reactionary as they get.
You fucking 12 year olds know nothing about Russian politics.

You have been arguing all thread, and having given one actual argument.

He's trolling. No sane person would claim any successor state to Rome. Many tried and failed in the past.

As for America taking "SOME" ideas from Rome, that's an understatement. I mean you took the concept of a Republic from Rome and basically copied the idea of the Senate having the power to override Consuls, and Consuls serving only for a set period of time. Pretty sure the Praetorian Guard was also the model for what the US DIDN'T want.

I learned everything I needed to know about Russian politics from the Soviet Union.

A common enemy would be nice. Looking at you canada.

You have one. Islam. Russia is allied to the West on that front.

Don't get baited by the leaf, rooskibro. I too hope for a defrosting in US/Russian economic and cultural trade. I think it would be good for both countries, and perhaps even help remedy whatever the fuck is going on in east Europe.

We need an official ending of the cold war.

stop asking me to validate you, fuckface

we didn't spawn from them, we spawned from our euro nation states culturally and legally, but the only template for the united states that has ever existed is the Roman Empire in terms of its unity around an idea (Rome) rather than, say, the race of Romans or the borders of Rome.

of course "life, liberty and prosperity" evolved from the Enlightenment, rather than say, zulu bone noses or Confucianism, so it remains to be seen if our idea can transcend all of mankind. so far i'm optimistic, but yeah we could definitely still have our vandals sacking the cities, fiddling while burning moment

i ain't trolling you faggot, we're rome crossed with cyber lasers and fucking hamburgers. go mothball more of your navy and cede more of your sovereignty to Brussels (spoiler alert, you're too chickenshit to actually leave the EU)

jesus

It's not really. Russia is very friendly with its own big muslim population and supports muslim regimes like Syria and Iran.

Nobody is actually fighting islam there, that's the sad reality. It's just another proxy war.

The way I see it, America is just the current step in the building of a greater civilization, picking up where the English left off.

English ideals seem to be all about assimilating all other ideas into a big blob. Hell you even see it in the way the English language changes overtime.

>mfw we are borg

Rome was a pretty insignificant city by then. It'd be like someone sacking Canada, no one would realize. So I think you'll be okay.

IMPERATOR DIVI F AVGVSTVS is turning in his grave.

It was, and it worked for a short, glorious time. That's how America, Canada, New Zealand and Australia came to be. Now we just flush the Mudslimes into inner cities and let them take over.

Bring back the CSA!

youtube.com/watch?v=yKih6b7IssA

I was specifically talking about American imperialism; ie our influence on everything outside of our nation.

American imperialism was mostly limited to the Americas due to the Spanish American war. It was the world wars that let the imperialism spread through Africa and Asia. Lots of former colonies perfect for exports.

Why would you want to stop Russo-American conflicts, they're great for increasing profits?

Having the mudslimes hoard themselves up in the concrete jungle is a good thing, imo. Cities lose their efficiency after reaching a certain population threshold. After that they just end up leeching the greater surrounding area.

But having the degenerates in a small location makes it easier to, uh, "handle" the issue.

You're right. It'll be easier to round them all up once the West destroys Mecca, just to stop any sandman shenanigans.

By not electing a war-mongering pneumonia incarnate.

What do you propose to name the super collective of the US and Russia then my friend?

The ideas of liberty and those of enlightenment came from English philosophers, British parliamentarism and French culture. The French revolution is what sparked the end of premodernity.

None of that came from the US, even though your revolution happened a bit earlier. Also your revolution was influenced heavily by Frenchmen.

You don't have anything in common with the Roman empire. They had a Greco-Roman genuine culture that they spread everywhere they went. You could see it in the Latin language, the Latin alphabet, their architecture, their politics. They were an expansionist empire, they took pride in conquering territories and giving citizenship to those willing to join the ranks of their army.

They had a culture of civil engineering, of building infrastructure everywhere they went, of systematising things. Which is why their heritage survived millennia.

What's that cultural influence that the USA has over the world, Hollywood movies, McDonalds food, Coca-Cola, what else. Burgers? Show me some great architecture you left after conquering a country.

Oh wait you never won a war alone, without allies. Pff, and you even dare comparing yourself with Romans.

Nobody knows what your culture is, nobody respects you for your culture, let's be real. They only respect you for yoir military, even if it doesn't win any wars, or leaves when shit gets too real (Iraq, Afghanistan).

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love you romanianbro

the US is NATO

be friendly to one another

there will be a war, but there will be survivors too

we will have to get along afterwards

make Nato a trifecta of USA-UK-Russia and you have a deal

>Why do West care so much about Eastern Europe? Stay on your fucking hemisphere and don't put your nose in our business.

your eurasianism mumbo jumbo is total crap, Vanya
nobody wants your Sovok 2.0

GIVE EVERYONE VODKA!

>"RUSSIA IS GONNA HACK THE ELECTION AND VOTE TRUMP IN (WHO IS LITERALLY A RUSSIAN PAWN)".

ft. A major political party in the United States.

Ahahhaha just shut your fucking bydlo face you dumb specky fuck. Bragging about things on Cred Forums is a very clear sign that you have some serious insecurities about the subject matter.

I'm an expat, so why don't you go back to jerking off to your anime and blaming putin for all your misery

I cant believe no one has posted this yet

Is Ukraine even a relevant country ?

It's too bad they had the old blood and guts assassinated (read: car crash on base), he wanted to tread (with tanks) his way to Moscow, and it would have been victorious at the time - Eisenhower kept him on a short leash by not fueling his tanks, the mad man (patton) would of taken the fight to the ruskies on his own.

I hate the fact that were """"""""enemies"""""""" because we could've had this planet on lock together
Feels angry man

Nobody gonna ask you what you want peasant,
This is our hemisphere and we gonna do what every we want with it.

>Show me some great architecture you left after conquering a country.

Gib Ukraine.

It's worthless to NATO, and grabbing it set off the latest round of sniping. What is the point? They knew from Georgia how Russia was going to react and they went for it anyway.

Just walk away.

>not a country
>not architecture
>fake shot
Try again burger boy.

We nuke Russia until nothing breaths

Yes at which point we'll meme the U.S. to beat the chinks and then we won't have anyone else to defeat us

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we want some fat Russian cock.

Remove Kebab together

THIS

FUCK EUROKEK LEECHES

PAY FOR YOUR OWN DEFENSE YOU SOCIALIST FAGGOTS

Lets gang up on Syria together just for the fun of it.

Just not anti-Putin

Nah

Lets gang up on Israel and Saudi Arabia

Those semitic bastards need to feel the wrath of the allied powers that made them what they are today

they probably realize (((they))) influence the US far too much, and that were basically niggerland

Better yet, lets gang up Laos, the most bombed country in the history of the world just for the fun of it. Currently 73 "bombies" per person still blowing people up almost 50 years later. Never did anything to anyone, have no oil. 'Merica fuck yeah.

Russian people are nice :(

Nah

Israel and Saudi Arabia

Maybe Switzerland too

Germany and Sweden should get out ground troops along with anywhere ISIS is and we should give Japan enough firepower to glass China if the chinks step out of line.

>it's a Ruskie disinfo op thread

>its a turn the goyim against each other post
Fuck off jew, Russia can do what they want in their part of the world

>lol just break up NATO for like, peace and shit, we totally won't just take over half the world and turn it into a third world shit hole
Traitors like you should be shot, tbqh.

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