Why does American college have to be so expensive? Students in countries like Norway...

Why does American college have to be so expensive? Students in countries like Norway, Sweden and Finland don't have this problem.

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But it's not expensive. It's just not for poor-uneducated niggers.

Wait, they have absolutely no free schooling system there?

it is very competitive to get into our public schools if you want to study something useful, fyi

we are developed countries, while your country is at least half a nigger country

>Why does American college have to be so expensive
government intervention, American colleges weren't expensive until the government tried to make them "affordable"

How does it work? Anything like our hex debt?

We have a grant system for qualified students (or minorities) that can pay for a large portion of tuition as long as you aren't going to a private school. Grants can also pay for the entirety of a technical degree in most places.

But no, we don't have any "free" schools after secondary education.

who even gives a fuck about college lol, degrees don't mean shit. most millennials just go to placate their parents and pretend they have a purpose and structure in their lives and just end up going back home to mom & pop at the end.

our tax rate is like 54% when you add everything up

second only to north korea

and then we spend 10000 of those tax euros to decorate city halls with used panties hanging from the air

i am not even joking

It didn't have to be this way. You could've made the better choice.

>tfw 26k in debt
>25.9% interest rate
>in 4 years it might as well be like 300 trillion because they never taught me interest loans in high school
>but at least i know integrals and chi-square formula

If everyone has a degree then they're no longer worth anything.

Because American colleges have all these fun programs and activities!

Seriously, we spend thousands of dollars extra on useless programs that no one uses.

Any particular reason for that? I don't see the benefits of not having a free schooling system.

>Sweden
2nd highest tax rate in world.
work for 8 hrs, get paid for 3:30hrs.
On way back home, get raped.
What a place to live.

>Why does American college have to be so expensive
Kikes gotta kike. Not just on the indoctrination in the schools, but also on financing it.

Free schooling is shit. Nothing that is free has any worth.

>choice
>"Democratic" Party
Pick only one.

I'm paying $5k a year. If you have to pay exorbitant amounts, here's a quick tip: Don't go.

If you're poor as fuck, FAFSA will usually pay for all of community college expenses.

Don't go to the very most selective school you can get into, because you'll get shit aid.

You gotta pay big if you want that sweet liberal indoctrination in your life.

Most of them are make-work programs for students (especially grad students) who need to perform some function around campus in order to justify a "work-study" grant. The money for those unnecessary programs just cycles through back to admissions as a scholarship for some student.

I know that feel friend.

>we must maintain education inequality to protect the value of our degrees

>if we ourselves want to live better lives, others must make the sacrifice of being condemned to spending the rest of their lives in the gutter by keeping themselves unqualified for higher paying jobs

The government started backing loans to "help" people afford college, and school administrators took the opportunity to spend every cent students could borrow.

To contain costs, kill tuition assistance to private schools. If you must intervene, redirect the savings to state schools.

But helps a lot with the most shitty ignorant people taking them a semi normal human being level.
But agreed, paid education is almost always better.

>higher paying jobs

You realize that the word "higher" in "higher paying" implies comparison, superiority and inferiority, right?

You can get an education for free if you are poor as fuck. Most people who have student loan debt are middle class or dumb enough to go to an out of state College and pay triple the tuition rate.

>free schooling
>free

Implying ''free schooling'' is free. Hahaa.

Automation and universal basic income will save the day.

It is for the students. :)

>Why does American college have to be so expensive? Students in countries like Norway, Sweden and Finland don't have this problem.

Norway, Sweden and Finland are developed countries.

i m sure you would enjoy hellhole like finlan

Because the government hands out easy money for student loans. So they increased tuition to get every last bit of it. They did give you something for your money though, new courses like, gender studies, and womens studies.

>taxes

Because in America, we believe in earning what you get.

How has your "free" school helped Argentina?

It's not a "hellhole" when the women there are cute. :)

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>Knows calculus
>Can't figure out how percentages work

I think you're a liar.

You don't have a right to higher education. It's a privilege.

The problem isn't in the cost and expenses.

The capitalist free market is what is killing American universities.
Lots of retarded feminists/trannies -> High demand for gender study course -> Universities try to supply said demand -> Breeds even more brainfucked feminist losers in society with unpayable debts -> higher quantity of nextgen feminists who are fucked in the head -> higher demand -> Universities supplies again -> eternal vortex of doom

School and University courses need to be controlled by government.

We don't believe in taxing everyone's incomes by %50 so Tracy can go get a degree in gender studies.
Also people are willing to pay 100,000 dollars on a piece of paper, so why wouldn't a university charge a little more based solely on supply?

University in my country is free. But exams are fucking hard and so people take forever to graduate (like 4-5 years for a 3 year Bachelors program).

I'd rather pay for my university and have fair exams and a degree at the end of my efforts.

A person I know in college has illiterate parents, siblings not far behind due to them dropping out of education at ~15, and all live in pretty impoverished conditions.

But this guy studied hard in school, got good grades, and is now receiving a great 3rd level education in Economics and Law in Trinity College in Dublin for free due to grants in Ireland that pretty much pay for everything if you're from a hopelessly poor background.

He's making a fool of most people in both of the courses with his results, and has qualified for a scholarship for further education in his fields of study at Oxford.

But by all means, American, believe in your free market capitalism memes when it comes to education, it will make sure that your top universities continue to devolve into extortionate institutions acting more like corporations than places of learning, pretty much off limits to poor people, and ensuring your once top-tier education system continues to fall in the rankings save for the absolute top universities.

>where will the moment come from?

The 1% will pay for most of it.

Why shouldn't they pay their fair share?

They just show you have the drive and dedication to work towards achieving something.

College isn't for everyone, yet it's sold that everyone must go or you'll end up poor and unsuccessful. You don't need college to be successful, just depends on what you wanna do.

Also no military.

Government guarentees

Damn, no need to get defensive. Argentina sucks balls and I'm the first to accept that.
Like I said to another guy, free school helps educate the people at the bottom, of course better people will get into better schools.

USA unis also happen to be the ones that are better. you don't want free higher education, trust me - it creates a system in which you are forced to get one and when you get one you are simply generic as everyone else. And no, most of our society does not need to be a rocket scientists.

Because muh capitalism

Because in America you can actually get away with telling people that it’s their fault they are not multimillionaires yet and they should work more to be able to pay for shit. Enjoy your capitalism.

Okay Mao

This isnt true at all.
In austria you wont have any problems finding a good job without going to any university.

>interest rate
what does it mean burger?

>le what happens when no university

Automation is coming. There's no stopping it, and when it comes, people who are unqualified for non labor jobs will be out of work. They won't be able to feed their family. The civil unrest will be brutal, they'll need martial law to even have a hope of containing it.

They need to be made for jobs that won't be easily replaced by robots before it's too late. We need universal higher education.

>implying
a) Gender studies is almost always a heavily underfunded course of study, in terms of teacher pay to student ratio. Most colleges have little interest in putting vast funds into this program, and rely on teachers from other fields (philosophy, psychology, etc.) to teach it.

b) Most of the income that a college recieves comes from income related to grants and research prospectives. This is the main reason why gender studies is such a small and feeble discipline. These colleges aren't quite receptive to tuition unless they are entirely for-profit style colleges.

gender study courses are pretty irrelevant in the long term desu.

>pay higher taxes your entire life
>take some loans at 9% max at the beginning of adult life

pick one

I'll pay higher taxes it it means a better society and a higher HDI.

>USA unis also happen to be the ones that are better.

You are naive. I know about these things a little, I can tell you French, German, Scandinavian unis are top-notch. And much cheaper.

>>no problems finding a job without university degree
>>general high school graduate (AHS Matura

show me those jobs

Also Dutch.

Credit cards have an interest rate of 11%-16% generally where did you go for your college loans a loan-shark?

You're implying the problem is so small it's insignificant.
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You're trying to tame the feminism, but all your jewish schools are slowly eroding one by one, turning into shitter space for BLM and other cancer.

Sweden got other problems

Thosr are 3 gay countries tho

Get out then, I want to pay for services I am going to use. If I want to use public transit, get a higher education, or healthcare I'll pay for it myself I don't want to pay for everyone's benefits or services I wouldn't use. The reason we don't have free college is because not everyone would use and if they would the value of the degree you would get would be piss poor. Imagine if your average druggie was in the same engineering program you were in and was encouraged to stay because muh free education. That's right your education would be valued less because you have idiots in your major. I already have to deal with rich kids who got into my school because of alumni connections and are devaluing my degree I don't want to have to deal with low IQ edgy hippies.

As a graduating senior, I'd like to not have both please

You do have free colleges. All your children will take irresponsible loans they can't pay off, they will then become leftist socialists and elect someone like Bernie who will cancel the debts for them.
Essentially you have created your own version of free college through your loaning system.

his name was Mordechai Shekelsteinberg

>rapefugees were allowed in to solve the baby boomer demographic '""crisis"""
>they're solving it by killing baby boomers

I'm not being defensive. I'm pointing out that free shit does not improve your country.

The same thing exists in America. The Federal government, the state government, private individuals, and the college itself often provide grants.

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Kek

What is federal financial aid?

Stop thinking that college is an extension of high school. They are private businesses, and private businesses in a capitalist economy cater to the biggest spending client aka federal government. If they can charge 80k instead of 10k because the Feds are going to pay no matter what, guess what they're going to do?

Check out tuition cost vs. federal financial aid, and you'll realize prices increased only once there was that financial aid (1973 IIRC, although could be a couple years later)

Want affordable college? Stop all financial aid, no ifs, ands, or buts; and the market will correct itself.

The only reason these people can study these worthless degrees is because government backed loans ensure that the schools will never have to worry about not getting paid.

Government got us here, it is not the solution.

This is correct. When you remove competition, prices go up. This is how everything works in America. It's not "greedy corporations" (well, it is, kind of)

When the government offers student loans to any fucktard who applies and gives them a tens of thousands of dollars, what do you think the colleges are going to do?

What would you do if you invented something and the government gave people money to specifically purchase what you were selling?

Would you sell it at a fair market price?

No, no you wouldn't.

Of course, we're seeing this with self-driving cars right now. If you drive for Uber, Lyft, or a traditional taxi service, you may be seeing yourself put out of business.

No one wants to pay for 1/32 Sioux 1/128 negro """Whites""", SJWs, niggers, mullatos, mestizos and cucks. I swear only 50 million Americans should be kept alive after the cleansing

total mystery

I think it's because you're stuck in the middle ground, and it creates you a ton of problems.

Over here the government can outright reject certain courses that are too cancerous.

We have scholarships and grants too, paddy. Maybe you should stop pretending to know how things work here.

in five year old speak, it means that the amount you pay get's bigger and bigger as time goes on. my loans accrue interest when i skip payments, some may be different, it all depends

I'll pay for them, and so will most other Americans.

It's the right thing to do. :)

beacuse you pay for football programs hahahahahah

this

i'm pushing the line with my "1.5% Broadly European" dna.

>Students in countries like Norway, Sweden and Finland don't have this problem.
Yeah they do. They pay for those things via astronomically high taxes. The cost is just distributed amongst society instead of the individual.

Here instead we have the individual responsible for their financial decisions. And since this recent generation is fucking stupid they've pushed themselves into debts they can't pay back.

And here we believe in freedom of thought instead of government indoctrination.

>right thing to do
Subjective belief, means nothing.

Isnt it better to play a sport rather then become a violent, poor shitbag who has to go to other countries to find toilet scrubbing jobs?? Hahahahahahaha

>one drop rule

You probably fail it too. "Racially Pure" people probably don't even exist in the world anymore outside uncontacted tribes. In the age of international trade, how could you possibly be sure your genetic makeup is 100% caucasoid?

You probably have some Siberian Asian inside of you. You could have some Tatar inside of you. It's not as bad as you think. :^)

>>And here we believe in freedom of thought
And look where that got you.
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Your colleges are nurturing nests for nextgen cancer. Birthed in America, poised to spread like a virus attacking other countries like Japan and other European countries.

Bernie will never refund your father's money.

There basically is, it's just for everyone but straight white men and legal immigrants.

>12% of population in major metros
>at least half the country

Pic related is neighbors, feels good man.

Also being richer and more advanced technologically we're objectively more developed than you world war causing niggers.

Concerning racial purity with mongols and such. They were the nicest in terms of civil life after fight. Again. There was no racemixing between mongols and Russians. Ever. It was absolutely shunned. Mongols didn't occupy Rus' land. The Russians payed tax to the mongols and the mongols left them alone.
To even think that they could have influenced the cumulative genome of the untire Rus' people is A-grade retardation and wishful thinking on your part. No one in Europe does have mongol blood. It was mongol invasion of Europe, you know? Might have skipped school that day. Parts of Russia were a tax protectorate without physical presence of mongols in Russia(Area they had control over is nowadays Ukraine and tiny fraction of European Russia) itself whatsoever. As far as the taxes go, mongols controlled some Russian states, but not directly. Each Duke had to send fixed amount of money to the khan, in order for khan to let him rule. This was called yarlik. There was always one Duke who collected these money from every other and sent the whole bunch in one package to the khan. This one was given title Grand Duke. Do you know what binds Russia together? Russian racial superiority that is. Russian Nationalism = advancing ethnic homeland for ethnic Russians and few integrated other Euros like Balts and Germans. And if having non-whites within the country then having them as second class pretty much non human citizens and containing them to their "native" lands. Russian Naitionalism has always been about Russian Supremacy. That's why it's often called Russism. Since its foundation in the 9th century up to the late 16th century Russia(Rus) was ethnic state entirely located in Europe. Ivan IV ordered expedition to Asia and Russian Forces conquered it. Since then Russia has Asian territories. However during the Imperial and Soviet times subhumans were not allowed to move to European Russia or Russian-settled areas.

And that's still far better than the potential that your government could ban history courses that they don't like.

I'll take retarded sjws over giving government more authority every day of the week.

>we must protect our children from the evil government teachings of "equal righrs" and "loving your neighbor!"
>all they need is hate... all they need is hate... all they need is hate, hate... hate is all they need

>You probably fail it too. "Racially Pure" people probably don't even exist
It's everybody in Europe, but Portuguese, Balkanians, Romanians, Hungarians,a fifth of Greeks, one half of South Italians, one third of Spaniards, one third of Ukranians. So mostly all of Europe are pure. And 100 million Americans. But half of pures are cucks, so 50 is the number you are looking for, mutt. As for my ancestry, worry not - pure bred German.

>And that's still far better than the potential
Your government already suppress and ban inconvenient history. It's not something you can avoid.

Practically speaking none of our colleges are perfect, but yours is breeding the largest amounts of cancer.

Government doesn't teach equal rights anymore and "love your neighbors" is religious doctrine which the government has no place teaching.

every SJW and college liberal here dreams they could live in "progressive Europe" so don't give me that shit faggot

all of them backpack to Europe and have European ideals

all you got from us was BLM, that gays-welcome/muslims-are-friends degeneracy came straight from you faggots

fuck, Marxism came straight from you faggots in the first place, along with government control of speech creating "safe spaces" in universities

>Your government already suppress and ban inconvenient history.
this is just complete bullshit you pulled out of your ass, teachers don't go to jail for talking about race riots or japanese war crimes faggot

I compared the completely free courses I did on Computer Science/Econ with 2 of my friends who studied in CalTech and Boston respectively.

Literally the same courses. Only difference is them paying a gorillion dollars per year.

No, our government doesn't, because we have freedom of speech. And you're arguing we shouldn't.

Japanese war crimes isn't inconvenient to America. American war crimes are inconvenient to America.

I'm in love

>all you got from us was BLM
The whole LGTBHQ+FSO| E-W thingy came from you guys.
Your colleges teach the whole vocabulary of feminist buzzwords and it's spreading like a cancer to the whole world.

This in a nutshell.

The first market crash was caused by people being unable to pay off mortgage loans.

The second market crash will be when graduates are unable to pay off their student loans.

Mark my words.

CalTech is a private school and every school in Boston is trying to compete with Harvard. Why don't you make an accurate comparison with any of the thousands of state schools, instead?

That comparison is definitely not gonna go in your favor, burgerboi

> comparing state schools to CalTech/Boston

Yeah, shittier courses?

> prices in state schools

Still not FREE, I bet.

Wow did you get a little piece of paper saying you know some shit at the end of your free education? People in the U.S. are paying for the transcript, not the knowledge.

Colleges are controlled by leftist brainwashing jews who paid congressman to not allow students to file for bankruptcy on school debt.

Good goy, don't you know a liberal arts degree is the high school degree of today's world :^)

you think we don't learn about jap internment and nigger slavery crimes?

homos from san fran weaponized the free love movement of europe

Jim bobs school of trucking is bretty cheap. Graduated at the top of my class son

See, just the fact that you think you've come up with argument by posting your unrelated backpedaling, shows the glaring hole in your education system.

You're an actual imbecile, and aren't even aware of it.

How many Austrian universities are ranked in the top 10-hell top 100 schools worldwide? My guess is zero, but you might have one.

Meanwhile, there are dozens of state schools in the US on the list.

They're cute but they're asian. The literal chink version of a white person. Mongrels.

they claim the picture was stolen from this.

The united states government and big business colonised their young

College degrees are for many the barrier to the work place

Universities in the united states function as big business, they commodify students like Exxon Mobil commodities crude oil. Exxon Mobil doesn't care about oil, they care what oil is worth.

Student loans are the single biggest financial asset for the US government, and a huge asset for big banks who do complicated, esoteric jewish usury with these. That means, people in power saw a way to make money off the young of those outside of power.

The education system is crippled and weak, all subjects are pathetic and hollowly taught, fields like the humanities, by far the most important field of study in all of the world, is turned to a joke, leading students to no career and a study of diluted content. So everyone who wants to be a state drone takes WORTHLESS (in the sense of the knowledge imparted) degrees in business and engineering type things, while students who are more often than not sluts or stupid hipster faggots study the humanities and get WORTHLESS (in terms of the job market) degrees that they barely understand, or else they wouldn't be hipster or sluts, would they? All are saddled with debt slavery, and as a bonus prize, things like drinking problems, promiscuous behaviour, leftist ideology, feminism cancer, etc etc

This is the death rattle of a dying civilisation, this immoral business of education, and the west should hang its head in shame. The sad part is that nobody is even educated to the point where they can question the system, they merely go on to manage it. Who are the hedge fund managers, the weak politicians subservient to wall street, the heartless lawyers and accountants who think the pain in their heart will go away when they buy a new mercedes, turning a blind eye to the IMPENDING DOOM about to hit the world? Why, they were all """""educated""""" in good old American schools!

I second this. I am poor as fuck, but focused on my studies instead of fucking and partying in highschool, so I got a full ride to a premier state university. Middle class families should be able to save and invest well enough for their children's education, but they instead "spend money they don't have on shit they don't need." I know all too many people that have parents that could pay, but they instead decided to buy brand new cars, instead of used, and had to get houses with more expensive mortgages.

Seeing as how Austrian universities are not businesses, and Austrians don't own any ranking websites or some such shite, it's hardly surprising we don't feel the need to shill our unis.

And seeing as how a university by definition is a place of knowledge, and I get the SAME knowledge (even more in some areas) as some indebted collegeboy amerilard, I'm not terribly flustered about my uni not being on a ranking.

How does students getting money from the government hurt the college, if the college is still receiving money?

Because college in America is like teaching a dog how to make a fire

Because colleges know they can raise the price of tuition because they know the government will write a blank check. It's called inflating demand

Unless you're studying a handful of subjects, the quality doesn't really matter. The real reason to go to the big name schools are research opportunities and business connections. The actual education remains pretty much exactly the same across the board.

(protip: most people are not studying medicine, law, science, mathematics or engineering).

I quit 4 universities, didnt ever have to pay a penny for it

Currently working in accounting and paying for my law degree with my own money kek

The exact opposite of the truth. State gov'ts have been killing subsidies since the 70s.
I know most of you retards are too brainwashed to understand this, but gov'ts are paying less and less in subsidies every year, ergo schools are more expensive every year

And Poland is such a rich nation with tons of opportunities and people flocking to live there.

You're not making the argument you think you are.

>mfw you learn valuable skills as a business student
When will this "college is dum" meme die?

>the bank is the government
>the government gives out student loans

m8...

statistically, business school students are the smartest dumb people at any college. You could call them "Kings of the retards".

The school I went has doubled tuition rates since I was a freshman 10 years ago. Maybe you missed it but in 2009 a law that was ostensibly about healthcare got passed and it had the effect of increasing the student loan amounts available.

Government secured loans are what is driving up tuition.

Mein Neger

There's a reason all the God-tier schools are in the states.

Free = shit

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m8...

who gives a fuck if people flock here? I presently enjoy a standard of living at least comparable to your own and its a fair bet I will exceed it

enjoy your flocking shitskins I guess

Just wait. If the quality of education at colleges doesn't change then alot of them will be forced to close. Student debt is out of control, people either don't make enough money after college at their shit job or can't get a job at all.

Capitalism, my boy.

Whatever criminals tied education to sports should be hung. Build 2 campuses, one for education and one for sports. They can be right across the street from each other, but that can be their one and only connection. Doing well in sports will have no outcome on grades and vice versa. Thanks

College loans are the farthest thing from capitalism you can get, retard.

Am I privileged? I have a bachelor of science in accounting.

Initially they were just extracurriculars. It's only been in the past 50 or 60 years that they exploded into these pro sport lite money laundering schemes.

Riba
Brother usury

So if you were to take away all the "free college" that is given to the poor and minorities and women, as well as completely get rid of "student aid" prices in college would drop across the board.
With all the "student aid" and free college they give to shitlords, if everyone had to pay the same price like a normal economy it would be affordable for all but the poorest of the poor.

Also make sure the (((college boards))) dont steal all the money for bullshit and pay their (((professors))) more than they should.

True, Hillary has said multiple times that she would ASK the 1% to pay their share. Just remember, for everyone else, you'll be told how much you owe in taxes and if you don't pay you will go to prison.

My parents did this.
My dad makes 130k a year but never has a penny saved because he spends it on so much stupid shit, you have no idea. Mom doesn't work.
He never offered me a dime to go to college and because he makes so much money I got ZERO scholarships and offers despite being in the top 100 students at my school at #79 highest GPA of 3.98
Zero. I was completely ineligible.
Here I am making $17 an hour as a dock worker, 6 years from now I top out at $35 so I guess it's not SO bad. Not the most ideal job but it pays well and I'm not in debt.

lol

They already pay their fair share. Almost 50% of federal income tax revenue comes from the 1%.

so go to fuckin finland bitch nigger. shut the fuck up

Cry every time

It's not that hard to pay off the loans if you budget properly and live within your means.

Someone has to pay for all those feminist/everyone-except-white-male scholarships and whatnot.

I think it's an obvious troll.

>Why does American college have to be so expensive? Students in countries like Norway, Sweden and Finland don't have this problem.
1. American college does not have to be expensive.
2. Countries like Norway, Sweden and Finland don't have black ghettos or a strong military either.

Where did you get your loan, a fucking payday loan front? My interest rate is 5.9% from a federal subsidized loan.

>graduate with 5k debt
>monthly payment is $53
>paid 16 months ahead by paying extra

You didn't even graduate, did you?

European universities aren't free. They're sponsored by gov through taxes so bascially everyone pay for them. My math prof scolded me one saying to better start learning this shit because his taxes are being spent on me.

Also thanks to your universities being so expensive, they're ones of the best equipped in the world. One of my astronomy professors was working in Missouri State University for a while. When I asked him if american schooling realy is as shit as it's said to be, he repied that it's mainly students fault. He added that in Europe students work and learn much better with inferior technological background, while american students pick as few classes as possible, don't attend, party insetad of studying, so all this aparature is partially wasted. He said that if you'd put european students in american universities, outcome would be amazing.

tl;dr
americans are shit, rich people

Reminder for countries with "free" college: You are paying tons of taxes to fund kids with useless degrees (STEM majors are much fewer than liberal arts & humanities) such as gender studies, arts and sociology, and you are encouraging kids to go through years of leftist indoctrination training with YOUR TAX MONEY.

Once kids get a job and find out how much they have to cut their earnings with taxes will they find out why "free" college is shit.

Because you can not include college debt in bankrupcy.

Stop trying to project the failures of the american system on us. We don't have such trash degrees.

Follow the money.

>failures

America has the best schools. Period. Finland is not even on the list.

Also:

>Implying Finland doesn't have trash degrees

no faggots you're both correct.
>state pulls funding more and more every year
this increases the tuition cost
>government increases demand for enrollment by giving money out to people so that more people try to enroll in college
increased demand ALSO increases prices
>nuh uh
yes huh, lrn2econ

Wrong. Finland has 5 universities on the top 500 of the Shanghai ranking (University of Helsinki being number 56) whereas US has 137. When adjusted per capita, Finland is doing pretty well for itself.

BTW gender studies is extremely niche here.

>in college library right now
>a female journalism major is having a webcam interview or something next to me
>is talking about how she's split between a social justice track and something else
>talked about how the North Dakota protests are pivotal
>says that we're a service-based economy so nobody would go into energy jobs that policy might promote
>talked about her passion for ending rape culture

All that's missing is the problem glasses and hair dye.

Free college for all.

The Ivy League is above the melee, mostly because they have very very high budgets.
But overall, yes, the european unis are pretty good, the thing is there is a strong selection in Master degrees and some others like Med School (for example here you have a contest where only 15% of the first year can continue).

I sincerely believe that free college is great, you shouldn't pressurize your students with financial constraints, especially when they already have to work in parallel to survive their daily lives) but you have to impose a meritocracy and cull the bullshit sectors like "gender studies" while severly limiting branch like "psychology" or "sociology" in order to be profitable.

> better choice

You're misunderstanding the whole point. Our system is free college FOR FEW. No college for everyone else.

capitalism.

norway, sweden and finland are communist.

>private property
>state
>money
>class

>communist