DONALD TRUMP VS. RON PAUL

I know most of you respect both, but who do you like and respect more? Vote and discuss.

strawpoll.me/11268865

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul_newsletters
strawpoll.me/11268865
youtube.com/watch?v=S2baH_2zCb0
youtube.com/watch?v=aUTnu1MaeX0
youtube.com/watch?v=D6qzzYOIU2g
youtu.be/nWJ34YANTYU
youtu.be/zGDisyWkIBM
ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/border-security/
youtube.com/watch?v=LZ7Hz7WCQE8
ronpaulsupporters.com/ron-paul-newsletters/
youtube.com/watch?v=_Ur-Ni1Sl8A
youtube.com/watch?v=JBmyMMkc5RE
breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/03/16/gidley-political-jihad-will-erupt-if-gop-changes-rules-to-steal-nomination-from-trump/
youtube.com/watch?v=-34w0OUIOyw
youtube.com/watch?v=68wFDvTBHys
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

Donald Trump with Ron Paul's personality

***UPDATE #1***

All Trump so far.

Trump - 81%
Paul - 19%

(26 votes)

Ron Paul is generally more respectable. He never made a single mistake. He's the true prophet

In better times, Ron Paul would be preferable.
The only way things will ever get better, however, is with Trump.

i'm all MAGA and am absolutely amazed with Trump, but I'll always have deeper respect for Ron

Ron Paul would be my pick if he was running for the president of Finland, he is wise, articulate, consistent and actually practices what the preaches.

But it has to be Trump for US, for the same reasons I wouldn't want Bernie for president either. The president of the US has to deal with Russia, Iran and other hard asses, so Ron Paul would be just a fucking wet towel to them in global political arena that would jeopardize the world peace.

RP is a good man, but wrong for the job.

if it was Rand Paul I'd vote Rand(as I did in the first primary)

Ron Paul 2012

***UPDATE #2***

Paul tightens it up, but still a solid lead for Trump.

Trump - 68%
Paul - 32%

(69 votes)

This is my first election, but I will always support Ron.

What ever happened to him? Is he still in politics?

t. fag

Paul is a bit loony but I like that he has principles.

He's still making his opinion known on things, but he's not a politician anymore.

***UPDATE #3***

Race continues to tighten, as expected. Trump leads.

Trump - 61%
Paul - 39%

(123 votes)

Retired.

I'm a white nationalist so Trump all the way.

***UPDATE #4***

Trump maintaining his lead.

Trump - 63%
Paul - 37%

(177 votes)

Trump for nationalism, Ron paul for internal policy

Ron Paul was a scam, just like Sanders.

Other way around.

Ron Paul would be a pretty good meme candidate if he wasn't an old fogey

Trump
Ron paul was my hero growing up, then I left the libertarian phase when I was 16
My uncle who was on one of the financial councils with him and got him to sign a wood loon for me

tried to rotate it

this. His newsletter articles are usually overblown nonsense that obscure the fact of the matter rather than clarify things, which is a standard hook to keep you coming back for more.

this

Yeah we can see the results you stupid faggot. Quit bumping your shitty thread.

Anyway, Ron Paul.

youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

Ron Paul Forever!

***UPDATE #5***

Trump - 62%
Paul - 38%

(267 votes)

A hardcore of a Trump supporter I am, my vote would probably have to be for Ron Paul. The only thing I can think of off the top of my head that I don't like about him is the whole open borders shit.

Trump is one of those guys that just has a larger than life personality, and I firmly believe he will do a great job and hopefully steer the sinking ship from the iceberg so to speak. He didn't need to insult Rand in the first debate though, and then turn around and ask him for his opinion to back him up on the 14th amendment.

Ron Paul was just a down to earth, humble man with a lot of integrity.

I supported Ron Paul in 08 & 12, but I'm for Trump because all the scumbags in the media that railroaded Dr Paul in the last 2 elections heads will explode when Trump gets elected.

Fuck Ron Paul. He's just a whiny old geezer who never got anything done, because like most Libertards & Libshits, he lives in a fantasy land where Shitskins act like people.

The Don is not a racist, but he does understand how to appeal to everybody. I greatly understood that after his Mexico visit. He lures people in by claiming that he'll make them great again in shared prosperity. Sure he's just talking shit, but it works. As I said, The Don gets shit done.

Ron is just some old irrelevant faggot. I bet that cuck Bernie Sanders will be remembered far more than Ron will.

who the fuck is ron paul? Isn't that the fucker you guys called the manlet???

Ron if it was 2012

Trump in 2016

The politics over the last 4 years have corroded so badly they're almost incomparable

No no your thinking of Trudeau

Fucking leafs

who's ron paul is that some shitty libertarian

Paul has lost his way

Ron Paul.
He can do it all.
His principles never fall.
Not a lot of height but his dick stands tall.

>this poll

Wow the cancer really is here. All the /r/the_donald faggot redditfugees with their stupid frog God kek shit

Fucking cancerous niggers

GET OUT!

Trump. Protectionism >>> (((free trade)))

CAN I NOT FUCKING POST ANY FUCKING THING WITHOUT BEING MADE FUN OF OR CALLED A FUCKING LEAF?!?!?!?!? I'VE HAD IT UP TO HERE WITH THIS FUCKING SHIT, I'M FUCKING DONE, FUCK Cred Forums, FUCK Cred Forums I'M DONE, LOGGING OUT, NOBODY ANSWERS MY FUCKING QUESTIONS, NOBODY TAKES ME SERIOUSLY, I DON'T FUCKING UNDERSTAND IT I HAVE HAD IT UP TO FUUUUCKKKIINNG HHHHEEERRRE!!!! I'M SHAKING AS I TYPE THIS I'M SO FUCKING FUMING MAD, ANSWER MY DAMN FUCKING QUETSIONS WITHOUT ''HURR DURR A FUCKING LEAF'' ''LEAF'', FUCK ALL OF YOU I HOPE YOU'RE HAPPY, I'M DONE, FUCK Cred Forums, FUCK Cred Forums, CYA!!!! FUCKKK THIISSS SIITTEE!!!!

Fucking leaf

Reverse that

Makes no sense

99% of Trump's appeal his is vision for the country, his policies don't even exist. Nothing wrong with that, really.

lmfao

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Ron Paul was the og meme candidate, sadly we hadn't awakened Kek yet.

Now you just have some old cranky moderate.
Other way around would be the immortal reincarnation of all the founding fathers combined.

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ron paul is a bitchboi manlet

>I'M SHAKING AS I TYPE THIS I'M SO FUCKING FUMING MAD

Shaking like a leaf?

>A
>FUCKING
>(french)
>LEAF

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Paul incensed the media and helped contribute greatly to alt-politics, and I'd have him as President. But Trump is necessary to finish his legacy and commit a coup against the Hillary conspiracy

Makes videos nonstop, peep the liberty report

He's completely non-interventionist so he just wouldn't deal with them period. He legit wanted to avoid World War 2.

Are you thinking of Rand? Ron is 5'11" which is just beyond manlet.

fuk thats cool

I want a loon now

Ron Paul is a faggot just like his supporters.

Donald Trump cock clapped Rand and destroyed that family.

I hope Ron Paul gets cancer.

Mobile fag here.

You just gave me cancer with this shitty post. Hope you're happy.

Ron Paul is much more redpilled than Trump.
>An October 1992 article said, "even in my little town of Lake Jackson, Texas, I’ve urged everyone in my family to know how to use a gun in self defense... for the animals are coming."[13] Another newsletter suggested that black activists who wanted to rename New York City after Martin Luther King, Jr. should instead rename it "Welfaria," "Zooville," "Rapetown," "Dirtburg," or "Lazyopolis.
>An article titled "The Pink House" said "I miss the closet. Homosexuals, not to speak of the rest of society, were far better off when social pressure forced them to hide their activities."[2][14][15] Another newsletter asserted that HIV-positive homosexuals "enjoy the pity and attention that comes with being sick" and approved of the slogan "Sodomy=Death
>A number of the newsletters criticized civil rights activist Martin Luther King, Jr., calling him a pedophile and "lying socialist satyr".[2][16] These articles told readers that Paul had voted against making Martin Luther King, Jr.'s birthday a federal public holiday, saying "Boy, it sure burns me to have a national holiday for that pro-communist philanderer, Martin Luther King. I voted against this outrage time and time again as a Congressman. What an infamy that Ronald Reagan approved it! We can thank him for our annual Hate Whitey Day."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul_newsletters

Ron Paul 2008 and 2012.
Who wouldn't love to see Dr. Paul wipe the debate stage floor with Obama?

Donald Trump

>better on abortion rights
>better on immigration
>better on how to treat terrorists
>not a cuck
>extremely anti PC

Yeah I would totally rather have had him backed by wall Street. Get your head out of your ass.
Ron Paul didn't go easy on his opponents or turn around and endorse the people he opposed like sanders did with hillary. Don't put him in the same category.

Over 500 Cred Forumsacks have cast their vote.

Trump leads with a little over half the vote at 63%

FUCK OFF

I will unironically fuck you up, Ron is our original and true God king.

Did Ron Paul ever name (((Them)))?

Good, I hope you die, nigger.

Shut up, Chelsea.

Ron was going to make gun ownership mandatory you cucklet

He wasn't open borders yo. He was just against a wall. In fact he wanted to have the military secure the borders once they were home from war.

Is that a sirloin?

Ron Paul after Donald trump. The only way Paul would win and work is if trump is dictator for some time.

Donald Trump is the punishment GOPe and progressives deserves for fucking over and ignoring Ron Paul.

So even though I'm not voting for trump I'm enjoying watching Trump burn it all down and seeing the neocon piss their pants.

You are in a political board and don't know who rand and Ron Paul are. What do you expect.

>In a January 2008 article in The New Republic, James Kirchick, who studied hundreds of Paul's newsletters held at the Kenneth Spencer Research Library at the University of Kansas, and at the Wisconsin Historical Society, wrote that the newsletters "reveal decades worth of obsession with conspiracies, sympathy for the right-wing militia movement, and deeply held bigotry against blacks, Jews, and gays".[2][22] The newsletters also criticized the state of Israel. One investment letter called Israel “an aggressive, national socialist state”; a 1990 newsletter discussed the “tens of thousands of well-placed friends of Israel in all countries who are willing to work for the Mossad in their area of expertise”; one quoted a "Jewish friend" who said the 1993 World Trade Center bombing was a "setup by the Israeli Mossad"

>2016 Cred Forums

Wow, this place is fucking dead.

Ron Paul is an actual conservative and constitutionalist (one of the only ones) and he would be a significantly better president overall in terms of policy.

Trump is actually a leftist on most issues which is really fucking disturbing, however he's also shifting the Overton Window rightward in terms of race realism which is what we need if we don't want to recreate The Camp of the Saints.

I would support Trump over Ron Paul simply because of immigration, however if Trump backs down in any capacity on the wall or banning kebabs (which I think is very possible) he will be a shitty president in most ways.

>strawpoll.me/11268865
It's a bit sad. I know it's the hype right now, but still...

>Ron Paul is much more redpilled than Trump.
Maybe, but I guarantee you Hillary hates niggers too.

Being redpilled is not what matter. Espousing those redpills in the public arena CONVINCINGLY is the important part.

Many many American leaders have been redpilled in the past. What did they do? Sell us down the river and now it's the current year and America is under 2/3 ethnic European.

Fuck being redpilled. I want someone who's honest.

Ron Paul was a weeb, Trump is a Chad! TRUMP ALL THE WAY!

reminder that ron paul and donald trump are not running against each other

this post is not actually political but serves a much more nefarious purpose

All you newfags, lol

>Ron Paul would be just a fucking wet towel to them in global political arena

Wrong. Don't let the reserved demeanor fool you; Ron Paul has balls of case hardened steel.

Trips lie.

>tfw Cred Forums is slowly moving towards the center.

What happened to the days when 90% of the board was Ancaps and National Socialist flinging shit at each other only agreeing on their hate of modernism? Good times.

All Trump needs is Ron Pauls's fear of bankers.

>654 votes in 2 hours

Damn Cred Forums you big as fuck

adolph hitler

Ancap isn't even a fucking thing, It's a fairytale that takes place in a far away land.

Well we don't exactly have Codreanu to pick from on the list, now do we.

Ron Paul with Trumps personality

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Best option desu senpai

Ron's policies would be great. With Trump's attitude he would be unstoppable.

>mfw reading that entire thing

consensus cracking

look at how tries to stop me from telling you

I like Rand, but damn, that looks funny.

Yes he was. He just wanted to abolish welfare to remove the incentive to flock here in droves and abuse the system.

Ron Paul with Trump's personality and feelings on borders.

Ron Paul but with Build Wall

Ron was dumb, dumber than a nigger.

Yea that's what I'm thinking. Question is how much was done from within and how much was done by outside forces?

I'm thinking it's mostly our fault for letting it fester and outside groups just siezed an opportunity.

Ron Paul couldn't even fight the media over a letter that he didn't even right 30 years ago.

fuuuuuuuuuuck i chuckled heartily

>Ron Paul not winning
i thought better of you, Cred Forums.

ron paul wasn't strong enough on immigration

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Ron Paul. I'm voting for Trump in the election though. Trump's better on the border issue. Both have espoused anti neocon and America First positions.

>He legit wanted to avoid World War 2.
ron paul was 4 when ww2 started

There's also this one. I think this should be Cred Forums's low power level logo.

>majority isn't Paul
This is how you know reddit has invaded this place

>Trump vs Manlet

Ron paul is a goddam genius.

Amerishits why didnt you elect him?

let the Jew decide:

youtube.com/watch?v=S2baH_2zCb0

versus

youtube.com/watch?v=aUTnu1MaeX0

Neocons and their media allies were too powerful.

Because, on average, Americans are fucking stupid.

How far we have gone, from following the country, to following the government.

i voted for him,

as for him being an "idiot"

youtube.com/watch?v=D6qzzYOIU2g

Wasn't that old during the 2008 elections.

>Eh? First black president? Ok i guess?

I heard that the media just completely ignored Paul. What happened?

>all these ass-blasted libertaricucks
>w-why doesn't anyone like my open-border candidate

This is why you never win.

Fuck off Reddit frog faggot

Been here since /n/ you cockmongler, stay mad.

its definitely outside forces. If/when trump wins I will go back to shilling ron pauls ideas 24/7, we will turn this place around

>Pepe
>Reddit

GTFO REDDIT

We seem to have coalesced around 63% for Donald Trump.

>Let it not be said we did nothing

He's too good for this world.

youtu.be/nWJ34YANTYU

Well, I agree to an extent. But to be fair, if we cracked down on assimilation here, and strengthening the borders, there wouldn't be a problem.

>open-border
you do know telling a nigger to get out of your diner is not open borders, right

Both

Most of you fags weren't even old enough to vote for ron Paul. He was a fucking prophet.

youtu.be/zGDisyWkIBM

But he's not for open borders?

_donald

You will never be Cred Forums

>claims ron paul didnt have a good border policy

ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/border-security/

>600 newfags

>Ron Paul
>Charismatic, loveable grandpa
>Ideologically "pure"
>Had a decent change to win the general election, definitely better than Romney
>Media blitz against him pretty much sunk him

>Trump
>Charismatic, loveable alpha male
>Ideologically dgaf, it's the results that matter
>Is on course to win
>Media blitz against him, but he's handling it well

Why is it even a choice? Both are very good candidates. Both were screwed by the establishment (the difference is that Trump managed to screw them right back). Both would make America great again.

These wedge threads are pure CTR.

mel and pepe are polar opposities and never the twain should meet

you should unironcally delet your post, burger.

Your a cuck.

Because the one's who would rather have Trump than Papa Paul are the loads of memeshitter newfags from reddit.

It's generally a given that most of us respect both.

Trump getting Paul to come out of retirement and head a special task force or whatever to audit the Fed would be amazing.

Gave my vote to /paul/

>muh secret club
Fuck off fag. I don't care how long you've sat in the same pot. But things are changing for the better and you can't stop it.

always hated ron paul, feels good to see him finally rejected

Trump had better put Ron Paul in his cabinet.

No U

1000

Ever heard the term lowest common denominator?

I've always liked Ron Paul; however, I prefer Trump

>inb4 newfag

Nope, I was all for Ron Paul back in 2012, just like everyone else here.

Paul is great on sound money and foreign aid, but Trump is far better than him on border security, trade etc.

Still prefer Buchanan to either of them, though.

Do shills honestly think the disinfo response posts are working? cause it ain't

Don't call Québec leaf faggot.

But they gots the "fleur de leaf"

youtube.com/watch?v=LZ7Hz7WCQE8

this

QUEBEC IS SOVEREIGN CLAY

Paul Sr and Paul Jr are hacks.

God Emperor has gone above and beyond when it comes to flushing down the brown both here and in abroad (specifically that heifer Merkel(

nu-Cred Forums has officially swamped old Cred Forums

Paulfags: /r9k/
Trumposters: Chads

Who's the open borders candidate?

Ron Paul is just a meme

Trump is real

blow it out your ass you fucking leaf

Nothing changed we just grew up.

what about rupaul

ron would be perfect if he was as staunch anti-immigration as trump

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>Reddit frog posting fag
>grown up

Ron Paul was a closet white nationalist too.

He was one of the most anti-Israel candidates to ever run for office in recent memory, spoke out constantly against the (((Federal Reserve))) and made it a big issue.

He even praised David Duke running for office for "scaring the blazes out of the establishment".

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul_newsletters
ronpaulsupporters.com/ron-paul-newsletters/

He never had the impact that Trump did, but he was definitely smarter, more knowledgeable, and more honest than him.

Ron Paul hasn't been relevant in years m8. People are obviously more likely to be acquainted with the current presidential candidate that has actually made it to the general election and has been the center of attention for over a year.

Trump's vision, skill, talent, charisma, power, courage, wit, and scope

with Ron Paul's ????? Libertarianism ? ? ? ? ?

What the fuck does Ron Paul actually bring to the table, isn't he a bit overrated? He just seems like a doddering old shit these days. I mean, I respect him. Kind of. He's a pussy.

>Reddit frog
kys

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Why? He couldn't get shit done if God himself tried to help him. He's incapable. And highly impotent.

Paul has been fighting the good fight for years
Trump NEEDS to SAVE AMERICA FROM THE SHIT TORNADO NOW!

I hope he has a nice life. I hope that he lives peacefully.

He was a pretty handsome guy when he was younger desu

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years from now if any common sense survives and we survive this madness, they will speak of Ron Paul on the same terms of the greatest minds and philosphers of all time. the man made prophetic predictions that have come to pass. anyone who ignores him is a fool.

youtube.com/watch?v=_Ur-Ni1Sl8A

someone's triggered

ron paul by far desu

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Reminder that Ron Paul predicted the subprime morgage crisis and the global recession.

Do you know what weaponized autism is?

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Obviously Donald Trump will win the poll because 90% of the people here are newfags who didn't even know Cred Forums existed until less than a year ago and they think that voting Donald Trump in the poll is the meme thing to do. Everyone who isn't a fucking newfag will vote Ron Paul.

I like them both equally, although Trump is more presidential because he's tougher and more identifiable with the American people, although Paul is more ideologically consistent

HE HATED THE (((FED))) BEFORE IT WAS COOL

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

As much as I like Ron Paul, Trump has had a much larger cultural impact that might be more beneficial than Paul's short-lived run.

What was wrong with Rand? Were his policies a reflection of his fathers?

Why did he fizzle out so fast in the primaries?

Cred Forums used to be the Ron Paul fan club back in the day. What the fuck happened?

I remember we used to have 9/11 and Kennedy conspiracy threads and argue about the relative merits of political ideologies, but now it's just fascist memeing and Trump shilling.

Drumfkins btfo

Cancer happened

plz be my ai gf

He wasn't as charismatic and notable as his dad. Plus anti-establishment people already had Trump to flock to, the Tea Party crowd had Ted Cruz, and the libertarians had Gary Johnson.

>I remember we used to have 9/11 and Kennedy conspiracy threads

Were you not here on September 11 this year?

people dont like common sense, it requires hard work and dedication.

hatred and bigotry is easy.

gee whizz why are people more fervent right now about a candidate that has an actual chance of becoming president than an old man who hasn't been relevant in years. obviously ron paul is intellectually superior to trump but you should maybe consider redoing this poll a year from now when we're out of trump mode.

Within the right, he's centrist... not as radical or revolutionary as his dad. He compromises to cozy up to establishment Republicans.

OP is a faggot

>strawpoll.me/11268865
Also, lead has closed to 69-31

You're implying your candidate will change anything.
Protip: The reason they didn't let Ron Paul have a chance is because he's a good and educated man. They're letting Trump have a chance because he'll play ball and continue things as they were.

Any idiot who has seen how US politics works understands this.
No one becomes president unless he's willing to play ball.

Over 1,300 votes - Trump has more support among 6/10 people.

>hatred and bigotry

>>>/reddit/

These are different times
Obviously trump is the choice

trump isn't my preferred candidate - i'm voting for him because i have to. i'm just giving the other guy some insight as to why he's winning in the poll. trump would probably win in a poll against george washington at this juncture because of meme magic.

Trumpfags are a bunch of socialist bootlickers.

All I can say is, "Don't blame me, I voted for Rand"

And I would have voted for Ted Cruz had I known Rand would bitch out

This isn't about who you want as president, but who you respect more.
And people who respect the shit-talking clown with a bad toupee over a US soldier, doctor, and honored statesman are hopeless.

It's pretty disgusting. Ron Paul has done far more for the US than Donald Trump ever will by killing bills in congress and making "audit the fed" an actual thing that other politicians are jumping on board with.
Men like Paul are the ones who open up those cans of worms about Hillary and other sneaky bullshit in politics.

actually a hard choice

Ron Pauls "newsletters" became the equivalent of a pre internet "Cred Forums" where people went in and spewed shit every now and then and people cherry pick to claim thats how the whole group or person is. look at what the media has claimed /pol is now! stating our symbol is a rascist frog.

I don't like ron as much as I like rand. If rand had Trump's energy I would elect him permanent emperor

Ron Paul ceased to be relevant after the Globalists started pushing their agenda via Obama hardcore for 8 years. Now Trump is needed as a defense to the global banker/corporate takeover.

Ron Paul criticizing Trump doesn't help either, since Trump is the last stand against a UN takeover, and them importing Muslims everywhere to cause chaos, and then take control under the guise of restoring order.

You know that's unfair. He says he wasn't reading that shit and I'm inclined to believe him. He's never done anything overtly dishonest.

Ron Paul is the modern day Thomas Jefferson without slaves. I voted for him in both the 08 and 12 primaries and what Romney and the GOP did to him in 12 led to me supporting Trump in [current year].

>39%

>since Trump is the last stand against a UN takeover

Trump isn't going to stop a UN takeover. He's saying that to secure a voting base you clown.
You're like those people who believed Obama was going to end the drug war in 2007-2008.

We keep trying to tell you this in hopes you''ll be ready when the truth settles in.
I wanna see UN headquarters nuked myself, but it just ain't happening until the US collapses and balkanizes.

Go ahead, make like a tree and LEAF

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There is literally nothing wrong or dishonest about white nationalism.

Ron Paul was a paleonconservative like Pat Buchanan who shat on Jewish neocons before most of the right-wing started doing it.

youtube.com/watch?v=JBmyMMkc5RE

I miss this guy. He's the only candidate I ever cared about and we'll probably never see another like him.

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1,500 fucking votes.

I'm calling it in favor of Trump, but just keep in mind that most of us love and respect both.

He sure as shit rustled jimmies saying he'd stop sending money to Israel in a live debate. The boos were hilarious. That's when I knew the Republican party was as bad as the democrats.

Obvious that Trump will win. He's more of a nationalist. Cred Forums is predominantly nationalist.

fuck you bootlicker

im never voting for someone like drumpf who openly states that he's willing to ignore the Constitution

60-40 split now

>no gary johnson option

the first time in living memory a third party candidate has the chance to win from the other two choices being so hilariously despised but no one gives a shit about the other option, ron paul should run on the libertarian party ticket

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And now this year Trump outright said that there were no WMDs in Iraq, that they lied about them, that Bush didn't keep us safe, etc. during debates, and he won all of them in polls. Fucking Bush "New World Order" 41 and 42 say they're gonna vote for Hillary.

He also said in debates that he would like to be neutral in the Israel-Palestine situation, but maybe that was just an idea he was throwing out there, doesn't seem like it's gonna pan out.

Ironically, the rule the GOP establishment added to stop Ron Paul in 2012 would've prevented them from blocking Trump this year.

Forgot relevant link: breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/03/16/gidley-political-jihad-will-erupt-if-gop-changes-rules-to-steal-nomination-from-trump/

Ron Paul used to be what I thought we needed. Cut the spending and end the endless entitlements. But the problem with freedom and democracy is that not everyone who enjoys its benefits respects it.

And now we've allowed the portion of the population that doesn't care about personality responsibility or that they're fed by the rest of us to grow so large that the political party which legalizes this theft may never be voted out of power.

Actually better than I thought new Cred Forums was. I'll take what I can get.

I just knew I would rage at literal retards in this thread. I'm out.

How about you actually contribute to the thread by saying why you prefer Ron Paul instead of whining like babies?

Still 60-40 Trump. Looks like that's what it coalesced around.

This is my ID before I got on wifi faggot. Check all the posts

>Aleppo

Off wifi* back on now. Hate that when posting on a phone

it's 2016 and I still rock Ron Paul apparel

>tfw Ron Paul isn't a running mate.

Ron Paul of course. Donald Trump seems like the more interesting person because of his banter but I think I would probably get along better with the Texan than with the Yank.

Ron without a shadow of a second thought.

in 2008 I was such a paranoid faggot that I was afraid to openly support Ron Paul, fearing that I would be blacklisted by the Illuminati or something the like. Man I was nuts.

and we have a winner

Daily reminder that your lolbertarianism is self-destructive because none of the people coming in and/or abusing how malleable and weak it is care about it or your principles.

If you care one bit about Ron Paul was talking about, your would vote for Trump.

Two words: Detroit Republican

underrated

Just letting you know, Paul split from the Libertarian party because of shit like open borders.
Paul's plan for border control was better than Trump's, and would actually work.

Withdraw all our foreign-stationed troops, and bring them home, then(and WOW what a shocker!) have our military guard our borders. Like they should rather than fighting pointless bullshit overseas.

Trump is literally bringing the globalists to their knees. He gets results. I'd take him over Ron Paul anyday.

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Opposites attract

Ron Paul > The Donald

Chomsky is the true redpill

youtube.com/watch?v=-34w0OUIOyw
youtube.com/watch?v=68wFDvTBHys

FOUR
FUCKING
LILLIES

not that guy but its because he refused to compromise his principles. he wouldn't play ball.

at the risk of being called 14 years old--Trump is Stannis. Ron Paul is Ned. Trump is the asshole we need, Ron Paul is the noble soul we are too corrupt to deserve.

>wanting the nice old man from down the street to be discussing shit with Putin
Donald Trump + Ron Paul's economic and social policy + Donald Trump's Immigration policy

someone's underage

>Just letting you know, Paul split from the Libertarian party because of shit like open borders.

I'm aware, I just find it funny that libertarians like that guy I responded to would refuse to vote for Trump when he's the only hope of their ideology perpetuating itself and your country not becoming Sweden 2.0.

That's why the Libertarian Party and the dude weed lmao Gary "What is Aleppo" "I love amnesty" "Don't call them illegal immigrants, that's triggering!" Johnson voters are such a joke.

>have our military guard our borders.
I'm not sure how feasible a plan like that is, but the problem is that it's only a temporary solution. If you build a permanent barrier, it will be there forever until some kind of major disaster happens. If you use troops, you can be sure that they will use the bare minimum and we don't know how effective it will be. And the next President with different policies and ideology might eventually remove them. There is no such opportunity with a wall, it's future-proof for the coming decades/centuries.

Also Trump has criticized interventions in the Middle-East, has similar positions to Ron Paul vis-a-vis Russia and Crimea, talked about bringing troops home from NATO, said, and I quote: “If I become president, the era of nation building will be brought to a very swift and decisive end,”, has spoken out against globalism, etc. The problem is he often contradicts himself and we don't know how what is written in his speeches will be reflected in his policies.

Agreed.

Trump

Kek wills it.

Also, you need a much more rigorous plan to deport existing illegal aliens and change the legal immigration system. Even if Ron Paul was much better than open borders libertarians, he was still too soft on immigration, and since it was never his main platform, he never put the issue at the forefront and it never became part of the national discourse in such a way.

Praise Kek

Voting Trump is pointless because voting is pointless.
I'll admit the motivation he's giving for anti-globalism is nice. But even if he's sincere(which I THINK he is), he's got so much stacked against him just in the US, it's not possible for him to do anything. They'll take him to a room in back and show him how vulnerable his wife and kids are and he'll play ball like everyone else. The man'll choose his family over the country, and you can't blame him. Blood is thickest.
And THEY know that. The system is completely wrecked and needs to be scrapped. Voting in a democracy failed us just as the founding men of this nation warned.

As I said, Trump stirring up the inner American beast is a great thing, but he himself won't change anything.
Hopefully he'll motivate people who can actually change things.

>implying the private security trump's family enjoys isn't entirely capable of dealing with the totally inept federal government and its hired goons

and you call yourself a libertarian

You realize he's far too old for that, right?

4/8 years ago, ron paul; now with how fucked our border is, trump > probably literally anyone else

>Hopefully he'll motivate people who can actually change things.

Which is why voting ISN'T pointless, unlike what you claim. Even if he can't do much by himself, him winning will legitimize some of his ideas and it will be seen as a valid way to win elections for future candidates, and not just in the United States. Overton Window and all that.

Hillary winning is legitimizing the establishment and the current system. Trump winning is legitimizing the anti-establishment movement against the current system.

>inb4 hurrr voting is rigged anyway

Unless that fool fucks up he can't lose to Hillary.
You can bet this. She's a walking disaster. I've actually seen legit dems looking at Johnson because they hate her so much. It's his election to lose.