MGTOW General

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They are. Why does this baffle you?
This is obvious demoralization.

Lmao, no surprise he's a slovenly, disgusting, fat sack of crap who's sad about him never having a girlfriend

Kill yourself pussy worshiper

Sounds like a bunch of small dicked manlets.

Well... At least Chad is white.

why is white race and mgtow correlated?
they are just 2 separate problems

None of these guys ever think to become Chads, huh? It's very possible to be Chad and also hold on to who you are, it's just a matter of getting into shape and having fun.

found the triggered beta cuck. I dont worship pussy, im gay. That however doesnt stop me from being able to tell you that mgtow is a cry baby movement for pathetic cucks.

If you dont want to deal with women, fine dont. But the fact you cucks constantly need to come on here and cry about it EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY tells everyone this is more about a bunch of whiny betas being upset about being rejected.

well maybe you don't deal with the problem because you are gay
ever thought of that?

If you think that women are entirely to blame for relationship problems and that men arent total assholes you are incredibly misinformed. There is a reason why most gay relationships dont last more than a few weeks and they always cheat on eachother.

Back in the day when men held all the power in relationships and marriage they could beat and rape their wives all day and never ever got into trouble. Now that there is accountability for men, marriage falls apart because men cant handle it.

Are women a bit spoiled? Sure. Are alimony laws ridiculous? Yep. Are men to blame for both of those things? Absolutely. Now stop crying and fix the laws you dont like or shut the fuck up

Any true redpilled white man knows that MGTOW is the only way.

Do NOT let the kikes fool you into having white children!

MGTOW threads always go the same way here. Women worshippers and right wing feminists storm in to attack men, call them weak, beta etc. Just ignore them. Fuck what women and society say.

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WHICH ONE IS THE JEW

The truth is feminism and MGTOW seem to both be jews. The only way to outjew the jews is to fix white marriages and relationships so that both sex's are happy and the white race can continue.

Not trying to be edgy. Just slightly amused at the anger MGTOW generates. Not even MGTOW myself but if some men want to do it, it doesn't bother me. Some people like a quiet stress free life

The only thing I agree with MGTOW is the state of American family court. Beyond that, y'all should honestly take a hard look at yourselves, your interactions with women, and your assumptions about both men and women.

>I'm tired of doing nice things for women only for them to step all over me

Personal problems combined with servant mentality.

>I'm tired of being women's last resort to marry and pop out some kids when they are in their late 20's and done sucking Chad's dick through college

Literally no self-respect and insecurity while in your 20s.

>I'm tired of doing things for pussy when I don't actually get pussy

Servant mentality, looking at women as "pussy" with two legs, and no ability to say "no."

>Meanwhile Chad treats women like whores and fucks the no e girls through the whores

Chad's got his shit together and really doesn't care about others' opinions on his actions. Oh, it might come back to bite him down the road but for now, he's enjoying life instead of bitching about it on the internet.

yeah MGTOW is so fucking rebellious bro, something needs to be done to stop the epidemic of marriage and monogamous relationships in our society

literally just a bunch of lonely depressed dudes LARPing as pump n' dump alphas to attempt to justify women's complete lack of interest in them. Sad!

MGTOW would make sense if you were ready to

1. Kill your mother
2. Create some sort of manhood initiation ritual (see #1)
3. Ban women from any influence over children past breastfeeding
4. Extend breastfeeding, make it a public sport or something
5. Turn the word pedophile into the most holy of holies

Fortunately, men are very easily able to provide each other with pleasure, especially if one of them is so kind to take on the role of trap or even begin transitioning with some HRT. The solution is easily at hand. No need to be so mad anymore, OP.

>anger MGTOW generates
You have it backwards. MGTOW is an anger filled reactionary stance men have towards women. Everyone else is laughing at and mocking you.

>The only thing I agree with MGTOW is the state of American family court. Beyond that, y'all should honestly take a hard look at yourselves, your interactions with women, and your assumptions about both men and women.

Agree 100%. Some laws need to be fixed, but other than that men and women are both to blame for the current state of affairs. Men grow up fapping to porn and hentai with their waifus and when they cant have that in reality they get super triggered and upset. They have extremely unreasonable standards for relationships and what women are actually like because most of them dont actually interact with real women.

I've never seen a better description of MGTOW.

I don't see how anyone can defend the idea of having a relationship when women have all the power.

>Your gf gets pissed at you?
Well sucks for you, all she needs to do is yell RAPE and your life is in shambles.

>that one girl you married ended up in divorce?
Sucks for you now she takes half your shit and if you had kids with her will also take your kids will not allow you to visit them if you annoy her and enjoy paying that child support!

There is no benefit to be had for males, spouting "muh race" is a jewish plot to further undermine males yes take the beating you silly goy you just HAVE to so you can create numales cancers who are submissive and know their place as women in the top of the food chain!

>I'm gay

Based. More proof that gay people should be spared on the day of the rope and instead we should execute MGTOWs and MRAs

>I'm tired of doing things for pussy when I don't actually get pussy

sounds like some self reflection is in order...if you are not getting pussy you have no one to blame but yourself.

>MGTOW

>reactionary

lol you're the one talking about the good old days when men could beat and rape their wives. Frankly I've no interest in that. Couldn't give a shit about kids either. If a woman comes along, ok. If not, ok. I've got enough on my plate.

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>reading anything from that shit site made by an Arab misogynist

>all she needs to do is yell RAPE and your life is in shambles.
While i agree that rape shouldnt be taken seriously without evidence, why would you date a woman who would cry rape? Most dont do this.

>Sucks for you now she takes half your shit and if you had kids with her
Again why are you marrying someone who wants to divorce you? You should be dating someone for a few years to get to know them thorougly before getting married. Its 100% your job to be able to properly guage the true character of someone you want to marry. IF you cant, its kind of your fault for being so autistic.
>will not allow you to visit them
Literally doesnt happen unless you are proven to be an unfit parent and dangerous to your children in a court of law. Do you have any idea how the law actually works, or do you just believe all the propaganda you read on here?

>about the good old days when men could beat and rape their wives
I literally said that was a bad thing because men had 0 accountability and could get away with whatever they wanted.

Are you fucking retarded?

>Frankly I've no interest in that. Couldn't give a shit about kids either. If a woman comes along, ok. If not, ok. I've got enough on my plate.
Ok. No one cares. At all. Why do you cucks keep blogging about your lives in these threads? NO ONE CARES that you will be lonely and miserable for the rest of your life.

I find all the crying over Jews quite funny tbqh. In 70 years all of us will be dead. The future demographics don't concern me one bit. Most of it is angry predictions by basement dwelling stormfags that sweat when they see a non white.

>I let women walk all over me: the post

There's a 50% chance you are a Pakistani m8 thats why you don't care about white birth rates.

>T. I can't get laid beta faggot

It's great to be a Chad desu

>men are mind readers and we can easily tell what women who are infamous for being emotionally unstable will do/wont do

You live in a wonderful bubble, women majority of cases win custody rights on kids, HEAVY MAJORITY even if the father is far and beyond the more fit parent.
You appear to be extremely ignorant on not only women behavior but our laws that cater to them you stupid jew.

>The day I agree with a leaf, baka

But in all seriousness, you nailed it on the head. Millennials (born between 1981 - 2001) have grown up with Web 2.0, file sharing websites (like Kazaa and Napster), porn images/video the very moment you ask for it, and the coming anime-wave of the mid 90s (aka Toonami).

I'm not surprised that it has caused some disassociation with reality. After all, anime women live in a world where its the 1950s their characters are written as the musings of a bored/horny male mangaka. Real women aren't nearly so 1-dimensional.

Girls can be until they become women. Likewise, so can boys until they become men. Sadly, not many men are growing out of their boyhood stage.

This American "Grass-Eaters" movement is a symptom of that + 3rd Wave feminism taking advantage of it.

>>men are mind readers
You dont need to be able to read minds to be able to tell someones character if you date them for a few years. If you cant, you by definition have autism. Sorry

good goym, yasss. stay inside and masturbate, let jamal and mohammed have all the white women, after all, heh heh, theybare nothing but trouble *suppresses laughs so hard his gold jingles*

>Why do you cucks keep blogging about your lives in these threads?

Calling me a cuck would imply I care about the ultra macho battle for women the LARPers here love to wax lyrical about. You cared enough to respond to this thread which was meant for sensible discussion. You types get hilariously riled by men differing from your perceived norm. Highly autistic

Nope. I'm white as it gets. Basically you Cred Forumsweenies look for a grand cause to validate your miserable lives. So you take pride in something you can't even control.

STOP
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The whole 'males opting out' thing is extremely exaggerated by sluts online who can't find a date. Men have every right to be their own people, if people don't like it, they can fuck off. But still, plenty of young guys are still opting in and serving society and worshiping women. People panicking about "HURR MEN THESE DAYS OPTING OUT" are retarded.

MGTOW is the only way left for the men who are smart enough to see through women's shit. Everyone who thinks otherwise is mentally retarded.

Quick question:
Why are you guys such pathetic losers?

>da joooos

Follow your leader and blow your brains out loser.

>Calling me a cuck would imply I care
The fact you are a proud blogging perma virgin means you are cucking yourself.
>I'm white as it gets.
If this is true iv never been more embarassed for my race in my entire life.

Except its heavily noted that women instantly change personalities when they get married because they no longer have to try.

And why would they as I've said, when a women marries they "Won" there is no downside if a divorce happens she has all the capabilities to strip everything from the male.

Once again you lack knowledge onto this bring about your stupidity and spout it as fact.

Society treats men like cannon fodder. You can see it in this thread. Oh no, men won't do what our advertising and arbitrary customs tells them! The horror!

>HURR MEN THESE DAYS OPTING OUT" are retarded.
>i literally cant follow threads: the post
You know every single one of these thread is filled with men blogging about how they are opting out right?

Reality didnt live up to their hentai anime standards so they dont want to be a part of it

>Well sucks for you, all she needs to do is yell RAPE and your life is in shambles.

Are you so very womanish that you impulsively react with fear to something that hasn't even occurred?

>Sucks for you now she takes half your shit and if you had kids with her will also take your kids will not allow you to visit them if you annoy her and enjoy paying that child support!

This kind of implies that you think a guy's "shit" is more important than his wife and kids. Frankly, this argument is very, very selfish... on the guy's end more so than the woman's.

>There is no benefit to be had for males, spouting "muh race" is a jewish plot to further undermine males yes take the beating you silly goy you just HAVE to so you can create numales cancers who are submissive and know their place as women in the top of the food chain!

You're retarded and literally have no stake in MGTOW beyond silent support. You have never been married, you have never been divorced, and you have never been used/abused by the legal system as have other men. Frankly, you're three steps away from being a chickenhawk.

>nstantly change personalities when they get married because they no longer have to try.
No. Its extremely easy to tell when a women is genuinely in love with you vs just wants to marry you for your money and is lying to you. Once again, if you cant tell when women are lying to you after 2 years of dating you have textbook autism.

I'm MGTOW and I very disagree with the first picture

Men should be protector and providers but with the destruction of gender roles and continued abuse of men, men can't participate in the preferred family lifestyle

This picture is actually pushing the feminist narrative pushing men and women apart

A cuckold is a husband whose wife cheats on him. Last time I checked I don't have a useless eater draining my wallet.

The white race doesn't exist, sorry buddy. You've been spending too long on stormfront.

Honey attracts bees.

I am very well aware. But dealing with this stuff for years has made me realize that "hating women" is pointless, because western culture is more of a problem than "women" are. It allows women to get feminism and chivalry simultaneously, and men are still seen as disposable and people go harder on them.

>The white race doesn't exist, sorry buddy
Oh god the cuck is also a sjw liberal. Who would have guessed.

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I stopped caring long ago.

>a guy's "shit" is more important than his wife and kids

It is though. His property, his rules. Marriage is a spook, a meaningless relic of centuries past.

>be me
>meet up with classmate at student bar to work on assignement
>everything goes along better than expected
>classmate's female friend invites herself in our table
>keeps disturbing the work, trying to get attention
>behaves in a highly arrogant and justified way - not really very attractive, even
>keep my calm
>she starts commenting on things as we brainstorm
>"that's not true at all!"
>still keep my calm, eventually she wilts and goes away due to lack of attention
>everything went well again
for a male this kind of behavior would be totally unacceptable

MGTOW is a basic response to the hyper feminist culture we now live in.

Anyone that is against MGTOW and NOT the feminism that is taking route is a part of the problem and an obvious kike further pushing for feminism to take hold trying to force people to submit to the bullshit.

>Are you so very womanish that you impulsively react with fear to something that hasn't even occurred?
Except it has...To countless and countless people retard.
Are you saying I should PERSONALLY be fucked before making the obvious claim?

>This kind of implies that you think a guy's "shit" is more important than his wife and kids
I included the kids as well, majority of divorces are brought about by the women mind you not the man.

> You have never been married, you have never been divorced,
So I have to PERSONALLY be affected before I can oppose it.
Cool I guess we all support refugees, and terrorism because WHOA I was never killed by a terrorist attack.
You kikes are pathetic.

>da essss jayyy double yoooos

Nope. They worship women and are feminists. You're having a mare son.

I go my own way but I don't post or tell people about it aside from this. You don't have to be a genius to realize marriage and men are being fucked over. If you don't want to be a tool, don't. Simple as that.

You can still find a good girl if you try not every woman is brainwashed. But I honestly don't really care anymore. Demoralized, resigned, whatever. Not worth the hassle.

Beta loner immobile depression virgin at 25 here I agree.

Only thing that makes me sad is that I know there is so many fellow neets and qt grills sitting at home with nothing better to do just like me.

Australia has gone incredibly insulated lately

>It allows women to get feminism and chivalry simultaneously

Spot on. They complain about the patriarchy one minute, then cry about men not paying for their dates the next. An immature bunch.

>women aren't fickle
>women don't base their actions on emotions but on reason
>women don't change after marriage
Yeah, gotta give it to the leaf to spread cuck posts.

>ignores reality
>ignores biology
>yes goyim the white race isnt real we are all one race
>no goyim ignore all those studies done on how different races react diffently to medications
>no goyim we have different facial features and skin colour because we are the same race! skin colour doesnt matter goyim , its not even real

oh you

...no. A pair-bonding between a man and a woman is the end result of most men's lives, as well as the offspring that come from such a union.

Property comes and goes. Sure its a measure/validation of wealth, but 999/1000 a guy will save his family before his Xbone if his house were to catch fire.

The only thing worse than a MGTOW who spreads his belief is a cucked degenerate who feels compelled to try and persuade people that its ok to gamble away all your stuff on a women even though 50% of all marriages end in divorce.

Sadly, he is legion.

No amount of damage control will change the fact that people dont go about 180 degree turns all of the sudden. Thats not how people work. They dont go from amazing caring loving to hateful feminist sjws. They were lying to you and you fell for it because of your autism. Iv dated maybe.... 10 girls in my life. Only 2 of them turned out to be cunts but i discovered that long before i got married. That is what you are supposed to do, get to know the person you are dating, ask them certain questions to guage their reactions and be able to tell what they really think about things. The fact you just believe everything they tell you and then act like its not your fault for being so guileble when at the SAME FUCKING TIME you seem to think women shouldnt be trusted is BEYOND HILARIOUS

Ethnicity and biological distinctions are real, sure. But the concept of race is malleable nonsense invented to divide indentured servants and slaves in the new world. The Romans thought Africans were wise and civilised compared to the barbarous northern Europeans. The Irish, Italians and Polish weren't initially considered white in America. Even fucking Mussolini said it was "95% feeling"

Finnish autism is real.

People can make their own decisions. But these threads aren't going to stop and neither will the movement. I suppose it's natural given the state of society.

>Not your sex object
Anyone else get swolested?

>in class looking at anatomy models
>drawing muscles in the Anterior position for practice
suddenly feel hands on my core
freeze up when I see girls in my group smiling
Tall Aryan qt says that she needs a better view than the fake plastic models
Looks at me and says user you look like you have all those muscles
Tfw cutting on keto so I look dehydrated af
Starts chanting take it off take it off
Tears in my eyes as I lift up my shirt
Hear them say daaaamn and they touch my inguinal creases without my permission
Feel like a rape victim that wants to say stop but can't

Why do women do things like this don't they care about our feelings

>Ethnicity and biological distinctions are real,
good so far
>. But the concept of race is malleable nonsense
Why did you have to ruin it? You know that ethnicity is race right? I mean you can just look at a person's genomes to tell what their ethnicity is. If race wasnt real you would not be able to do that.

Divide and conquer, goy.

And yet we're all sexually compatible with each other and produce viable offspring - what's so great about this "racial purity" everyone is on about? Surely people are stronger with a mixture of the best traits humanity as a whole has to offer?

>I don't get the attention I think I'm entitled to, therefore I'll use all of these very real problems to rationalize what a loser I am

You MGTOW shitters always talk about becoming 'better men', but men don't bitch and whine about women like this. Just because feminism has poisoned a lot of modern women doesn't mean it's impossible to find a woman who's loyal and would make a good mother to your children.

You myopic autists may not give a shit about preserving your race and culture, but anyone with a brain sure as fuck does, and that starts by raising families, and having white children.

You have support here with us in this board brother. Literally tears in my eyes hearing about your horrifying rape story.

Together we will make it through this.

>Property comes and goes

So do women. "Bonding" does not require marriage and children are an unnecessary useless burden. Men only think of marriage as an end goal because arbitrary customs say so. If he puts women before goods and dies for it that's his prerogative.

kys, paki scum

Here have an up vote

>And yet we're all sexually compatible with each other and produce viable offspring
>im literally new to biology: the post

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genetic_hybrids
>Mule, a cross of female horse and a male donkey.
>Beefalo, a cross of an American bison and a domestic cow
>Sheep-goat hybrids, such as the toast of Botswana.

Like how fucking retarded are you to think only animals of the same race can reproduce? Holy shit you are dumb

>all these fags shitting on MGTOW

I'm 28 and haven't had a steady gf for 5 years, of which I haven't wasted a second on chasing women. I haven't worried about it even one bit. I'm not feeling lonely, I'm not feeling sad.

I challenge myself and get excellent experiences through my work as an RF engineer. I have several close bros, with whom I have found more love and trust within, than I have with any girl. I have great colleagues and my social life has never been better.

Since I make a ton of money, sex is readily available to me, through prostitutes. They don't care about making oral "mutual" or how long you last. They'll suck your nuts dry, swallow every last drop, and thank you. Money that would otherwise be spent on maintaining a relationship that has a 50% of ending in a divorce, statistically speaking.

I'm planning on having a "surrogate" mother carry my child, for me to raise alone, without the influence of any estrogen whatsoever.

Am I supposed to feel beta and pathetic, because I don't waste my time on women? Feel free say that about my lifestyle, but I have no doubt in my mind that I'm pretty fucking okay with this situation.

What's scary is the fact you haven't disputed that women have the potential of fucking you over easily.
Its tremendously horrifying that your idea of a solution to this is to give people a questionnaire and little quizzes to be able to figure out who they really are.

You do realize what you're saying, you're saying that yes women CAN fuck a man's life up tremendously and we have to accept this, be happy and use other means to defend our property and life from being taken while women don't have any fear whatsoever.

THIS is what you propose, THIS is how you argue that MGTOW isn't the best solution?
Holy shit, what a world I live in, this is what is used to argue against MGTOW.

yes goyim, good. have some more porn and government benefits. it's good that you are socially crippled, low testosterone, and out of shape. It makes Stacy even more likely to want more refugees to pound her in the ass. You are my perfect goyim slave

>You know that ethnicity is race right? I mean you can just look at a person's genomes to tell what their ethnicity is. If race wasnt real you would not be able to do that.

They have different meanings. Race has a cultural and geographical component. The line becomes even more complicated with mixed people, since you can't shoehorn them into categories. People can easily "pass" for white after just three generations of mixing. Even if it was real, it wouldn't matter to how we treat one another.

>Except it has...To countless and countless people retard.
Are you saying I should PERSONALLY be fucked before making the obvious claim?

No, but I have to wonder if you've ever been in love before, ever trusted anyone more than yourself before, and to have both reciprocated from the woman you're willing to live/die for. Sure, marriages go sour and end in tragedy but there are many warning signs prior to, the first and foremost being the presence of selfishness and the absence of mutual trust.

>I included the kids as well, majority of divorces are brought about by the women mind you not the man.

Very true. My mistake then on not including the kids in the reply.

>So I have to PERSONALLY be affected before I can oppose it.
Cool I guess we all support refugees, and terrorism because WHOA I was never killed by a terrorist attack.
You kikes are pathetic.

No, see above (or don't). Also, running headlong into hyperbole and blaming your personal boogeyman for your lack of an argument.

Man, one day you're going to take a long, hard look into the mirror and have an epiphany. What that epiphany will make you discover, I don't know. From my experience, I learned how to stop worrying over shit I can't change and start looking forward to changing the stuff I can. Google the Serenity Prayer and repeat it to yourself once every day after you wake up.

>Its tremendously horrifying that your idea of a solution to this is to give people a questionnaire and little quizzes to be able to figure out who they really are.
>its horriying that you would want to get to know the person you are dating before marrying them
TEXTBOOK
AUTISM

Iv already said twice ITT that marriage and alimony laws need to be changed. How the fuck do you think blogging about it on here will solve anything? Go start a petition and actually change things or you are admitting you are full of shit and using the excuse of
>muh scurry evil womens boogieman
so that you dont have to deal with the reality that no one actually wants to date someone as beta as you

Hybrids of different species cannot reproduce.

Nobody cares about your little baltic wasteland.

I'm in good shape and have good social skills and normal testosterone actually. Nice strawman though. I couldn't give a shit about refugees either way. Not my problem. If they stormtards squirm it's all good though.

> men don't bitch and whine about women like this
But they do, they are, I am. Just because you want to disown men from your sex because they disagree with you, does not warp reality into making you right.
>because feminism has poisoned a lot of modern women
bingo
>doesn't mean it's impossible to find a woman who's loyal and would make a good mother to your children
But it's made the competition alot stiffer, all a woman has to do is pretend to be the good woman your after and then pull the old bait and switch and become your divorce nightmare adding you to the very statistic you feared. Safer to just leave women to their own devices, they're obviously happier that way.
>You myopic autists may not give a shit about preserving your race and culture
In a few short hundred billion years, who will give a shit.
>but anyone with a brain sure as fuck does
Well, you must be the only person here with a "brain", so get to work, you have alot of procreating to do - hope it doesn't ruin your life and inconvenience you too much.
>that starts by raising families, and having white children.
Why white children specifically? Asians are superior in intellect and blacks are superior in fitness. Do you really want a race of pure mediocre stumbling about just because your skin colour matches your arbitrary ideal skin colour? Would you feel the same if you had been born non-white?

>This is a list of genetic hybrids which is limited to well documented cases of animals of differing species able to create hybrid offspring which may or may not be infertile.
>which may or may not be infertile.
>which may or may not be infertile.

Even if they were infertile that still doesnt refute the fact that different species and races can breed with eachother.

Just because you go MGTOW doesn't mean you can't have your precious white children.
Just hire a surrogate to carry the little bastard.
You don't deal with women as far as a relationship is concerned. One nights and whores are still options for stress relief without having to deal with their shit.

Just make sure to get everything on tape or in writing, because you being mean the next day could turn sex into rape all too easy.

They're not passing on their genes if the offspring can't reproduce.

>which may or may not be infertile.
>which may or may not be infertile.

> ever trusted anyone more than yourself before,
Many people have, and they've been punished for it.

I do not trust a casino for having my best interest in mind when I gamble because I know no matter what I do in the end of the day the House is always the one that has the chips on its side, same applies to a woman.
Woman have all the bargaining chips, you cannot love someone who the law views to be more important and who will side when things go down south.

I do take long looks, not only at my mirror but the world outside of it those around me those who have been negatively affected by marriage those who thought they had the perfect marriage gambled it all on it and dreamed of a perfect life only for reality to come crashing down their ex wife to be laughing all the way to the bank and they left torn apart with their kids taught to hate their father the father left in debt working to pay off his child support.

Yes I know full well of this "love" you speak of I've seen it.

This is literally the definition of what a species is.

Based Aussie

Yeah I don't want kids but I guess that is true. Plus women already use sperm banks anyway.

this leaf couldn't have put it better

I just thought you should know that you are arguing with a lesbian. She is a Canadian lesbian shitposter that comes here. It's just a fact.

If you let go of your bitterness at being "passed over" by women and don't just view them as sexual objects you'll grow up a lot and learn women aren't as evil as you think

>petitions work
If that was the case your country wouldn't be so cucked would it cucknada?
Yes, tell me how weedman goes.

Saying "petition it" doesn't change facts, saying for us to look at half ass solutions to blatant problems isn't realistic, telling people to gamble while the decks are stacked against males is straight up criminal.

If you want people to stop being MGTOW then the laws need to be changed until then MGTOW is the only rational choice to make any other is stupid and so are you for pushing feminist nonsense.

Oh is it her? Makes sense. A strange creature.

Are you illiterate? I gave you a list of different species that can have offspring together, SOME OF WHICH ARE STILL FERTILE. Did you just not take grade 10 biology? How are you so dumb?

>When MGTOW Appropriate the Waifu movement

Now normies are finally figuring out that 3D women can't love you.

How will normies react to the VR era do you think?

If they can produce fertile offspring, they're not different species.

These normies better not steal my waifu

They're still failed normies though, otherwise they would have discovered and converted to 2D years ago. That's why they whine. They can't accept that society no longer has any place for them, but they're unwilling to fight or consider alternatives like waifus.

The 2D fags have been ahead of the game for a while now.

>If that was the case your country wouldn't be so cucked would it cucknada?
My country is full of liberals and cucks. I will admit it because its the truth and im not scared of the truth. However, most of these cucked liberals live on the east coast and vancouver. Central and western canada is actually pretty based, but we are totally being fucked over by the federal government.

I predict of Trudeue doesnt let the pipeline go through that there will be talk of western canada seperation, as currently they take all of our money with equalization payments and yet our votes dont matter at all.

>Saying "petition it" doesn't change facts, saying for us to look at half ass solutions to blatant problems isn't realistic

I mean just go out there and start getting support for your cause. IF you get enough people behind you they cant ignore you anymore, look at trump. What you cucks are doing right now LITERALLY isnt helping at all. You are not convincing anyone of anything other than a few pathetic betas dont want to be rejected anymore

Men are the new women and whatever this is, is the male version of feminism.

Fucking kek.

>Yes I know full well of this "love" you speak of I've seen it.

Cool, but have YOU ever FELT it... with anyone outside of immediate family? Feeling, in this case, is more than seeing.

>I do not trust a casino for having my best interest in mind when I gamble because I know no matter what I do in the end of the day the House is always the one that has the chips on its side, same applies to a woman.

Marriage and long-term dating isn't a gamble. That's the first 1-3 months of dating, at worst.

>Woman have all the bargaining chips, you cannot love someone who the law views to be more important and who will side when things go down south.

Every society on the planet views its women and their well being as the validation of its worth as a society. You cannot have a society with only one gender and you cannot grow without both.

>I do take long looks, not only at my mirror but the world outside of it those around me those who have been negatively affected by marriage those who thought they had the perfect marriage gambled it all on it and dreamed of a perfect life only for reality to come crashing down their ex wife to be laughing all the way to the bank and they left torn apart with their kids taught to hate their father the father left in debt working to pay off his child support.

As a child of one such marriages crumbling as you've described, I must agree. But only to a point, that being that the process in which families are torn apart and one side left in crippling debt is the result of shitty family court laws.

Except that they are. Are you just pretending to be retarded? i gave you a list of dozens of different species that can reproduce.

Are you saying sheep and goats are the same species?

No, I'm saying they can't produce fertile offspring together.

Oh but its happening, fewer and fewer males are seeking out females.
Females are having more and more difficulty finding someone suitable to marry that isn't a jamal or a tyrone while those males are off playing vidya or masturbating to anime cartoons.

This is action taking place and it speaks more than any single protest or words, eventually women and the law wont be able to ignore.
Until then we simply wait it out.

Ah, not a surprise.
But I'm quite the infamous shitposter myself so nothing too worrying.

Normies will consume mass produced VR trash while Robots tinker with Open Source software to create perfect virtual Waifus

It will be long before the Normies catch on.

>But I'm quite the infamous shitposter myself so nothing too worrying.

Are you the hacker known as Cred Forums?

After they produce a viable offspring, they become the same species if natural selection deems the new progeny to be superior. So if your goat sheep hybrid proves to be better than it's parents at the things that goats and sheep do, it is selected to be the future of the goat/sheep race.

This obviously doesn't occur when humans guide the process unless we have an interest in the potential of sheoats or goeeps, but that is beside the point.

What does me personally have anything to do with this?
I've felt attraction to the opposite sex like any other person in existence I however understand the costs far outweigh the benefits and don't bother to invest too much time or thought into it. Like I said when the decks are stacked against you its a waste of time to pursue it.

> is the result of shitty family court laws.
Which is all too common, again you aren't going to convince anyone by trying to appeal to emotion.
The facts are there, the decks are stacked against males no rational male should even consider being with a women when you can at anytime be fucked over.
That is it, no amount of "love" should cloud someones rational judgement in how they only gain to lose from interacting with females.

- lift
- make money
- socialize

and above all, stop with this MGTOW horse shit

women are mindless drones who go with whatever is popular. You can easily take a libshit and turn her red pill in less than a month

>you must do all these 3 things to attract a woman who most likely does none of the 3

Then there's no hope for you until you have an epiphany.

Fact: You cannot fall in love by looking at it from a logical standpoint. They involve different sides of the brain, two different mindsets.

If that sort of life appeals to you, cool. More power to you. I cannot live like that while cutting off my tie towards emotion. Tried that, got depressed. Shit was worse than going to war 4 times.

>being too cucked by your internet addiction and need for instant gratification you don't do these things regardless of how it affects your market value

Kek, true. Women just do nothing but sit back and wait for men. Nobody tells them to stop being fat fucks. Pursuing money is a pointless endeavour if you've simple tastes. Maybe women should prove their physical ability by dying en masse in trench warfare like millions of men did. Would be funny.

Reminds me of those zombie ants that get that fungus growing on them and then the fungus takes over, growing through their brains until finally it forces the ant to bite down on a leaf before consuming the entire thing.

>Generalizations

Sure, every single woman is like this. How about you get off your lazy ass and find the right woman.

How about you count your blessings that some men have removed themselves from the game giving you a better opportunity to find that "right one" and/or keep her?

I swear the people that come into these threads to bitch out mgtows must love shooting themselves in the feet.

are you trying to say you're going to become celibate?

>britcuck
>test ever
lmao sure bud, we all believe you

>search through millions of women to find one that acts like a decent human being and not a cunt on legs

>militaryfag
Oh not a shocker, all of you are heavily depressed and instantly seek out a women who then cucks you while you are deployed.
Yeah, its pretty common with you degenerates.

I on the otherhand am not depressed, have no true desire to even find a relationship even if the laws were switched to be more beneficial.
But then again I'm schizoid so its a me thing personally.

So if men don't do it they are cucked by internet addictions but if women don't do it they are just being womanly I suppose.
I guess bettering yourself is just something men have to do, women are born being perfect.

Do you actually think that the walking fedoras who subscribe to the MGTOW lifestyle would've taken any female of worth? Fat autists can pick up even fatter autists and that's about it

So you've come in here to point and laugh at people you see as lesser than yourself? My hero...

but men are baby makers

>anyone I dislike is a fat neckbeard!!!1

Ebin

>Men Going Their Own Way But Bitching About Women The Whole Time

Oh no, some autistic betas decided to stay beta forever. That will sure show women!

On an unrelated note, try to s4ge ANY shill or slide thread and you get an error. But remove "s4ge" and you can post normally. WHO could be behind it? Hmmmm....

What if "jewish plots" is a jewish plot?

Hmmm, I wonder who?

The beauty of MGTOW is that it is simply right, and its opponents are simply wrong.
No matter how alpha you think you are or how much do you lift, the moment your wife wants the house for herself she just needs to call the police and they will swiftly kick you out of the house you paid for, by bullet if necessary.
If your wife wants custody of your children she will get it, and your opinions or allegations don't matter one bit to the family court. This is hard data and no opinions or anecdotes can counter it.
>B-b-but you must sacrifice yourself for society o-o-or you're not a man!
Cry more Schlomo, your tears are delicious.

>butthurt MGTOWfags
I'm sure you'll find plenty of like minded individuals on an anime imageboard

Note that this view on women is not some type of revelation. Men have been speaking of the inferiority of the fairer sex since the creation of the written word. Recently, Feminism has made the situation unfair enough to where even normalfags feel disenfranchised

Women CANNOT love men. No matter how badly you strain yourself, you will never capture her loyalty.

Again. I'm not MGTOW and I don't watch anime.

I love how all these triggered dickheads keep believing its a Jooish conspiracy simply for standing up to feminism. Ill be laughing when that bitch serves you divorce papers after 10 years of marriage.
The game has changed fellas, wise up

MGTOW are right but for the wrong reasons. Its a bunch of beta pathetic losers who happen to be right about the fact that marriage rape and alimony laws are really retarded. This doesnt change the fact most of its followers are pretty fucking sad

>Be a MGTOW
>Doesn't flaunt it like some kind of SJW attention whoring cunt
>Friends ask why I don't have a gf
>Tell them I don't have time for one
>They start labeling me as the faggot of the group
>Don't care
>Gym out, take educational courses, play video games, save money
>Realize I have a lot of money saved up
>No idea what to do with it
>Continue saving
>Fuck prostitutes on the side and use common sense so I don't get a STD
>MFW 3 friends got stds from their GF/wife because the whores cheat on them and lie to them
>Those 3 were the ones giving me the hardest time about being single

Kek. Saved.

your picture is literally

Normies get insanely bothered when you don't subscribe to their beloved social mores. Good on ya user.

real MGTOW don't care
also if you don't like the philosophy you should still be 100% for it because it reduces competition for those holes you desire so much

The ones who try and pressure you to conform are usually the ones who are so narrow minded they end up getting fucked over by the status quo that they conform to.

I've been long term single for years and nobody bothers me about it really, but we have a more "to each their own" culture here.

But I've seen a load of people fucked over during those years. Relationships are a minefield these days. Like watching the opening scene of Saving Private Ryan.

>it reduces competition for those holes you desire so much
1. i have a fiance
2. im not afraid of competition. Competition is actually GOOD because it forces people to be better.

Last resort

Late 20s

How I know you're an edgy teen

Have you ever seen women in their late 20's? The ones with a brain do get desperate because they know their time is running out.

I'm 26 and they're already getting desperate.

I like MGTOW. Gives frustrated white boys an outlet while Jamal, Tyrone and Abdul are doing white women.

Better a white boy going his own way than chimping out like Elliot Rodgers

Ya I'm glad you ladykillers are off the market

MGTOW leads to Elliot Rodgers when they realize they will die alone.

Problem with MGTOW is it insists on a label. The reality is though there are shit loads of guys who are just vanishing off of the relationship and marriage map without resorting to identifying with a group/label.

It's just called being single, and staying that way.

People like this guy are an extension of MRA's who are bitter and lonely.

I get bitter and lonely too, but I'm not incapable of putting myself out there and having somebody, I just don't want to anymore.

Early thirties is when they suddenly start locking guys down.

>normies getting btfo
>a bad thing

I came to know about MGTOW recently from one of these Cred Forums threads and I have been fascinated by it. I looked up a lot of things via Google youtube etc. Even watched Elliot Rodgers videos. I came to know of Elliot because of MGTOW.

I can't understand how Elliot is connected to MGTOW. Nowhere in any of his rants does he mention being a MGTOW.

I think MGTOW is hilarious though. One of the weird things conjured up on the internet

Any warning signs for me? I'm 22. I want to know which women to laugh at.

I agree with and support this entirely.

>think MGTOW is hilarious though. One of the weird things conjured up on the internet

That's because you don't live in the West Sanjay.

/thread
Give something a name and you give it a weakness. Besides, saying I'm single and moving on is easier than saying "I identify as a permanently single person who's single because x,y,z."
People don't want to hear your life story when they ask if you're married

Trust me when I say Indian women are no less venomous maybe they just don't have the legal armada behind them the way western women have.

The ONE thing that MGTOW never satisfactorily explain is why they can't get a pre nup. Don't tell me pre nups are worthless because from everything I read a properly done pre nup is pretty solid in helping you getting BTFO in a divorce

>that image

*helping you NOT getting BTFO

my bad

>irony: the protest sign

Just get in a relationship with a girl, regardless if she's a whore. Get her pregnant and take the baby. Raise it the right way and leave the mom. Go to alaska or some shit

If you need a movement to go your own way, you are the lowest of betas. "Going your way" is good life philosophy for any man and this MGTOW movement is insult towards it.

Fuck you.

Well said Finnish wolf

Well one that happened to me recently is a girl I knew in my teens getting back in contact with me out of the blue, she's 25 and she's been desperately doing the whole online dating and speed dating etc. Made her aware I wasn't interested and she found a boyfriend, but he doesn't sound like he's planning on sticking around.

So if girls get in contact with you out of the blue and they've also taken a major knock to their looks and SMV, that would be a massive red flag.

There's nothing better than paying for sex when you want it than being in a relationship and constantly paying and paying until SHE wants sex. Fuck women.

The only thing women have to do is not get fat and even then some guy would still fuck them. Women don't need colleges degrees, to workout, be good at socializing. Men have to do all the work.

shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. I stopped respecting pussy long ago my friend.

Pussy is silly. You never know what it is gonna do... kinda like clowns. Do you go out of your way to respect clowns?

I used to be good to women I was with or hoped to be with. They beat that shit out of me. Now I get laid a lot less, but It's better. I don't have some bitch ruining my life while I'm working my ass of to provide a future for "us".

Every great now and then pussy falls in my lap and I take it and run these days. I tied up the best years of my life with women that made my life hell. I can't get motivated to do that anymore.

One of my ex's left me for a banker, the other hit me several times and I pushed her down (went to jail, but it got expunged) which then prompted her friend to call the cops, another aborted my babby, another developed an urge to be a nightlife fixture...

just fuck It dude. pussy is pussy. just fuck it and leave. At this point I am ready to bust a nut in one with good genetics and accept the incoming child support requests.

>Be beta for women
>Get made fun of
>Decide to stop playing the game
>Get made fun of

The best thing about MGTOW is that they don't give a shit that you think they're pathetic. You thought they were already, but now nothing you say has weight

why can't more of your leaf branch buddies talk like you? based canuck for once

Why do you like blacked whores so much?

The thing about MGTOWs is they eventually become immune to shaming tactics. But women survive on shaming tactics. They tell men to man up and to stop being pussies. So then the MGTOWs stop caring about the games women play and become much more confident in the process. They should be careful what they ask for.

You are agreeing with her, when she said that "most" men don't associate with women. That is absolutely false. Don't get me wrong, if "most" men opted out, western society would be forced to change to become pro-male. But it's not working that way. This hysteria about MGTOW is engineered outrage. Just because a few bitter sluts can't get dates, doesn't mean that men in droves are opting out.

>been "raped"
>likes to talk about expensive shit her friends are doing
>plays with her phone too much
>likes the nightlife
>doesn't text back immediately (excluding work hours of course)
>has a disliking of children
>overly narcissistic
>likes to withhold pussy as a punishment
>treats you well the first few months, then unexplainably becomes resentful of your attention.
>over use of social media to exercise their woes, which are usually imagined
>waitresses, bartenders, and other nightlife jobs
>mean to animals, uncaring for them
>puts you in compromising positions (fights etc.) to hang out with her "friends"
>has male "friends"
>keeps beta orbiters on deck, but at a safe distance in case she needs them
>thinks history is boring
>doesn't read anything... ever.
>has a bad relationship with her family, even though they are good people which is usually the case.
>life plans are incoherent or unachievable
> ever quotes Marilyn Monroe

oh look, this thread for the 420th time hahahaha, well memed

don't worry. you'll be able to explain the intricacies of the whiteness levels of various geographical regions in another thread that asks if, "some group of people is based".

If your're not having any kids by the age of 25 and married your're a failure for "muh white race" anyway so i don't give a shit about you're shaming.

MGTOW is understandably angry at the Marxist gyno-centric society they live in. It only makes sense to fully understand the dangers of a matriarchal west

>still have three years to get a Kraut's approval
Wow, it's like the weird of the world was lifted off my shoulders!

You just need to stop putting pussy on a pedestal. Find bitches you are attracted to and invite them to accompany you along for your journey, make them suit your needs and make it clear they are along for the ride and if they don't like it, get off the bus. This is how you should have always been behaving with women.

intricacies pf whiteness levels in geographical regions..... wait what the fuck?

WEIGHT
THE WEIGHT OF THE WORLD, YOU IDIOT

I think he's leaning on things like "Italians aren't white".

yeah, those threads. I have just scrolled the catalog and seen like 7 MGTOW threads.

Pretty ridiculous. I don't mind discussing the subject, but all these threads are a bit much. I didn't notice the current saturation of this shit before I responded.

If you wait too long any girl you find is gonna be a used up whore

So is it alright to be MGTOW if you're not white?

I'm more of a LM (lazy man). Too lazy to work on improving myself, too lazy to be interesting, too lazy to hunt down a girlfriend. I'm not "going" much of anywhere except off to work. I'd be MGTOW but I'm too lazy to complain about fish not trying to jump in my boat.

I don't have a problem with MGTOW, so long as they admit that they're taking the easy way out.

You can't change every woman's mind, but you can change them. It's like farming though: Don't sow seeds on sour earth. If nothing's growing in the first place, don't expect your stuff will fair any better.

In other words, pick a girl who has some attachment to rational thought. I know, they're rare, but if you're going to go the whole monogamy route, be discerning.

Find one that cares about facts and doesn't get tired of debate. It doesn't matter what her political beliefs are to begin with if you do that. Then, it's as simple as pointing out the obvious holes, flaws, and problems with any of the modern leftist movements that aren't rigorously academic in backing. Which is like 95% of them.

Once you start pointing out these problems, she won't -unsee- them, and her own inherent desire to be intelligent and discerning in her own right should be all you need to play on to assert the point.

I won't deny it will take a little bit, but what do you think that 3-7 year recommended wait before engagement is for? I'm on year 2 with current girl, has already admitted that Feminism has huge problems and is not the movement it historically was. She gets in to frequent debates with people online over "bad" feminism now, and has expressed distress over there being less and less 'good' feminism.

I figure by year five, she'll be completely based.

That's what your job is, Men. If you don't feel confident in your ability to do that, then sure, Go Your Own Way. Just don't expect to be lauded for doing the easy thing instead of the right thing.

Suffer in silence like a real man. MGTOW is for pussies.

>Suffer in silence like a real man

No.