How has homosexuality survived natural selection?

How has homosexuality survived natural selection?

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homosexuality is part of natural selection and population control.

Shit's hot mang

Because degeneracy is a choice.

Mexibro is actually right. The rise in the homosexual population is directly related to the overpopulation of earth.

Women that carry the gene for it produces more children.

This

Calm down Sargon, and where are you getting all of this gay porn? im starting to grow concerned ofyour collection size

There is no gene for homosexuality. No study has ever found one.

You clearly have no clue of how evolution works.

It must not be genetic!

>group-centric theory of evolution
laughingdawkins.tiff

How has x survived natural selection?
x=down syndrome, paraphiliacs, cancer, op

That actually makes too much sense. Sauce? This would actually make tremendous sense because producing more offspring would require some safety measure from nature to counteract population growth.

idk but boys are cute

its a neurological disorder

what is aids

Then why are there gay white people when Africa is the place that's overpopulating?

In most animals homosexual behavior is just a side effect of a high sex drive rather than sexual attraction.
In humans though, it seems a bit more complex. Hormonal imbalance, genetic defects, lack of complex nutrition in the womb, conditioning, and sex drive play a roll. My main guess would be the population explosion without a force to cull out undesirable and unhealth traits. You can only bake so many batches of cookies until you find a few that are burnt.

Because the Jews wanted it to

shhh

no using reason, only feels

How has mental retardation survived natural selection?

By having those who choose that route integrate into media and politics and push the agenda. It's only very recently that the orientation has become widely (tongue and cheek) accepted.
It's just like Muslims, some blow shit up and cut heads off, while others get elected and worm their views through the mass media to get their agenda across.

It hasn't, Homosexuality IS natural selection.

People can turn gay

You know how some animals are horny and confused and end up fucking other males or even other species?

Among humans we created the concept of "love" which goes along with lust. So those humans who are sexually confused end up thinking their confusion must be legitimate and attach feelings of love to it.

Homosexuality is just confusion and delusion but because we're humans and thinking beings we have ended up rationalizing faggotry and trying to make something reasonable and normal out of it.

The problem comes when fags now encourage faggy behavior in individuals who are not normally prone to sexual or gender confusion, resulting in "conversions" to faggotry which further disrupts normal society.

Perhaps both are genetic mutation?

>side effect of a high sex drive
I can attest to that, I'm horny all the time I could go both ways easily most days.

people choose to be gay, for example in prisons

2 ways
>They were married and had normal lives, and fucked in bath houses on weekends
>They were autistic loners like Tchaikovsky and Da'vinci

Real answer: According to the "Gay Uncle Theory", homosexuals contribute to the survival of a tribe, even if they do not father children themselves. Freed from the burden of parenthood, they have extra time to spend caring for children, hunting, gathering, defending, etc. Humans are social creatures like elephants or gorillas. Not every member must procreate for the success of the species.

This is what he's referring to:

rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/282/1809/20150429

Not entirely sold on it since fruit flies are not humans, so this phenomenon doesn't necessarily have to work in us.

Yeah duh. Does Cred Forums believe in evolution? What about devolution?

It's a mental illness and not in the DNA.

Actually I've been to prison they only do that in US jails in Canadian prison you get shanked for that.

Because boys/men are fucking horndogs and will fuck anything that's willing and many things that are not.
Generally due to too much dopamine. Fastest way to curbstomp dopamine and the psychosis it can cause is to get yourself off.

Thank you kindly. Evolution does tend to do what it does best which is add to the survival of both the individual and species. I still cannot tell you what an appendix was for it seems like random mutation at it's finest.

>survived natural selection
>aids

High birth rates don't necessarily mean population growth, most of the niglets don't make it past 5 years old

Think the prevailing theory is that it is an altruistic gene/trait/whatever. Having a brother/sister around who has no children of their own means someone who can help raise their sibling's children. If some of those children carry a recessive gene/meme/epigenetic factor for homosexuality then the trait survives and potentially grows. The trait my have poor fitness at the individual level but the increase in fitness to close kin more than makes up for it making it beneficial over all.

Homosexual gene mutations also increase fertility in females

They would only do so if there was a greater than 50% chance that those children carried the gay gene too, otherwise there is no incentive. Otherwise the gene would disappear.

Because it's a psychological disorder.

Because there is no gay gene. People choose to be gay.

yes, like a more subtle version of how ant colony spam endless sterile sister clones.

Well anyway with downs syndrome you actually get increased psychical strength pound per pound.
Retardation may actually tie into human compassion which is greater than any animal. The retard survival strategy takes advantage of compassion which may in theory explain why it's still here. The need to take care of other people is our greatest strength and weakness.

all because africa has huge amounts of people doesnt mean shit. half the babies die before puberty, the rest before adulthood. theres tons of other natural selection factors there

look up the rat utopia experiment

Prosperity creates homosexuality

>How has homosexuality survived natural selection?
>natural selection
protip:humans are not animals in the natural sense.
Any explanation of human behavior from animal models starts with a flawed premise.

No. It's really just a matter of taste, and tastes develop from exposures or experimentation.

There's no gene for loving spaghetti either.
Some folks love it.
Some folks do not.

Only lower lifeforms give a shit anyway. The rest of us just enjoy whatever tastes we end up with.

At the end of the day you are still limited by your brain and body. The human is a strange animal that decided to live mostly outside the natural world. To say the human is more than an animal is incorrect however. We're just animals with more free will and therefore different environmental selection.

fpbp

It's a genetic safeguard against overpopulation. The eighth offspring of an inbred cancerous hillbilly conservative is more likely to be gay than the first.

It actually depends on whether or not you view civilization as an extension of nature or not. We are natural and we have instincts those instincts actually led us to build civilization. The need to feel safe is paramount in our decision to have laws.

/thread

Twin studies show that it has a genetic basis. The problem is that the gay gene may not express itself as homosexual behavior in all circumstances. That's where epigenetics comes in.

more qt 2d boys pls

Really makes you think

Mind if I contribute a bit?

Homosexuality is illegal in most of Africa

The same way Down's syndrome or any other genetic disease has. It's recessive genetics. Downers aren't born to downers, they're born to non-retards who carry a gene for it but don't express it in their phenotype. Same with queers.

But why? What do they get out of it?

God's gift to men. Had to make up for giving us women I reckon.

It's not genetic that people find male features specifically attractive and have no interest in female ones. It's people learning to become attracted to a set of features outside what they're supposed to, either for mental illness/emotional reasons (hormones, abuse, nerds) or because they are hypersexual and find far more things attractive than they are supposed to.

There is not a specific state of "homosexuality" versus "heteresexuality," nor is there a sliding scale. It is not well-defined in biology. You just have your natural instincts and behavior which can become bent out of shape for a wide variety of reasons. Normally they cause you to breed, but your biological functions can be abused and lead you to find strange or deviant behavior rewarding. You can be conditioned to be a "homosexual," or you can be fucked up naturally leading you towards wrong behavior.

It can be hard to look at it this way, but remember there are only two sexes so there's really only a few ways deviant behavior can turn out. It is probably easier to describe them as confused or ill, and the only reason the term "homosexuality" is so pervasive is because it is used to describe the behavior. It's a symptom, not a condition.

Everyone is straight, some people are broken. One symptom isn't enough to point to a specific condition or cause.

Is this the fabled Mexican Intellectual I keep hearing about?

There is enough of a straight population that gays can be faggots either in public or private and it won't affect much. They are such a tiny portion of the population that they don't matter.

Who's hyped for this?

Homosexuality isn't genetic, it's developmental.

too much phytoestrogens in the womb.

Back in rome it was Flax.

Today it's fluoride and BPA

How has being born a retard or a cripple or having any number of congenital diseases survived natural selection?

It's not part of the "design" or "plan", for lack of better words, of evolution. It's broken design.

Also, a huge part of it is nurture. Most homosexuals are created by cultural and environmental influence. There will be more faggots in a degenerate / decadent culture than in a traditional / conservative one.

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>drawing the feminine trap as masculine
Fucking garbage

They get off on being degenerates

Same.

>tfw Cred Forums will never know how degenerate I am outside of this thread

>Back in rome it was Flax.

TOP KEK

>being gay is population control
You stupid spic that makes no goddamned sense whatsoever. You think people are born gay or become gay after psychically sensing with their X-gene that somehow that their population is too large? Fuck off. Go dodge a cartel driveby.

Fags say being gay isnt a choice, its genetic. Total BS

>Earth 2016
>overpopulated
Pick one.

There is no gene for homosexuality. And, interestingly enough, to show just how homosexuality is something that is broken, a study in mice has found that homosexuality is due not to a presence of a homosexual gene but rather the absence of heterosexual gene.

Thats a shitty argument, why would they adapt in a way that is detrimental to thier genetic survival?

>ends in 711
He just shitposts as a part-time job.

The mechanism for population control in Africa is AIDs, starvation, and general niggatry. Homosex kicks in when there's less outside pressure.

>born a retard or a cripple or having any number of congenital diseases survived natural selection
Those are all abnormalities in the formation and development of the offspring, they're not genes. There are certainly genes that cause hereditary disorders, but they are able to survive by being recessive and not expressing themselves in most cases (otherwise their hosts would all die off and the genes with it).

As for faggotry, it may certainly have a lot to do with environment, like some set of particular triggers that cause the gay gene to express itself as the gay phene.

Except now they do thanks to bleeding heart naive libshits.

>not posting the best girl

Nice try.

>totsuka having enough testosterone for even that build

Fpbp

So they don't care about eachother, it's just for sex?

Becayse straight people keep making faggot babies.

Yep.
Not that I would go for any guy, slimmer pickings on that end of the spectrum that's for damn sure.

I never see what's coming til two weeks before it airs.
Hype has let me down too much all these years.

Free was great though. Nips do homofaggotry right.
Never for political means, just part of the story.

Only because we over in the civilized would have poured billions into making sure that every one of the little shits in Craprica doesn't die of malaria or something.

A lot of gays will tell you that happiness and fulfillment is life is related to physical pleasure. A lot of people on the left in general say this. They honestly believe that having sex with strangers is the same thing as loving them, loving themselves, and leading a successful life they can be proud of.

They are confused and people really do reinforce this behavior for them. If you talk to a lot of lefties, women, and gays, they have a completely different definition of happiness, goals, family, etc. They model their lives around different methods of getting emotional security and pleasure.

They're already starving like mad.
They cannot possibly get to that number. They can't feed themselves and we're running out of money.

Because it is fucking hot.

every human being has the genes for attraction to both males and females, if we didn't the whole sexual reproduction thing wouldn't pan out. Having those wires get crossed in a minority of people is just something that happens

>2 billion googles will happen in our lifetimes

The genes for homosexuality and heterosexuality are codominant. This is why bisexuals exist. Both or either one can be passed on.

Twinks are where it's at senpai.

"straight" guys are gayboi kryptonite and if youre packin large just turn on grindr and wait.

What I've noticed with almost every single gay guy I've met is that they had either a distant or entirely absent father figure during their childhood. Women coddle and feminize their boys, especially single mothers, which only further encourages them to seek their absent father's affection from other males.

This is probably true.

Doesn't excuse their disgusting behavior for the most part tho.

They are supposed to fill different roles in society other than reproduction.

It was being already tested and confirmed with animals in closed off environments by the thousands.

Because it's not genetic.

I know you all are morons and don't believe in climate change but believe me, by 2050 africa will be uninhabitable no matter how much food left wing idiots throw at the problem that they themselves created

Because they are not born that way, it is due to external factors, and those continue to be encouraged

Because the mind is very elastic and it's nurture.

Except it isn't.

>But why? What do they get out of it?
pure hedonism

>Twinks are where it's at senpai.
Can't argue with you there as long as there is some good definition, and they're willing to let me smell them.
I think that logic only applies when their sucking older men dick.

>draw a girl
>call it a boy

this fucking show was the last fucking straw that activated my latent homosex. fuck you 8man

It's what we DON'T get out of it.
Divorce, alimony, etc.

STD risk is peanuts compared to women's bullshit.

Sauce.

Your psychology will never make sense to you till you accept the spark of the divine in yourself.

It provides an outlet for your sex drive when sex with women is more likely to shorten your life than provide you with heirs.


For instance:
In prison, or deployed at war.
In a polygamous culture where you're the beta.
When your tribe's resources can't support another kid.
When you need to empty your balls but only dudes are around.
When the women aren't worth the trouble.

There was that post at the top of reddit today of two male gorillas blowing each other. They had to get off, there were no lady gorillas around and no human social constructs to stop them, so why not? I'm sure they enjoyed it.

So marry a man that wants a family. You can avoid women and also not suck 1000 dicks every night then go on to die of aids at 25. Sex without emotional attachment is always shit to begin with.

I wonder if anyone has ever lived a long married life and then went gay.

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>So marry a man that wants a family. You can avoid women and also not suck 1000 dicks every night then go on to die of aids at 25.

I agree with the "don't fuck a buncha strangers" bit.
But I'll be fucking damned if I'm marrying another dude. Shit sounds weird and creepy.
Marriage really is for men+women.

Marriage isn't only about procreation anymore. Its about pooling resources, designating heirs, and making medical decisions.

Nope. Not going there. Too fucking creepy.
It's as bad as fucking strangers really. Just don't make no got dang sense.

And women have turned it into nothing more than a way to steal your kids and half your shit so you see how well the man+woman thing is working out.

How is it creepy? Are you one of the open relationship type faggots? If you're already loyal to someone there's no reason not to sign a binding contract that also has a lot of legal benefits.

So you are the degenerate they are speaing of.
And you get nothing out of it other than the enjoyment of degeneracy and the avoidance of womanly bs..?

Trust me, it's really easy to get the hots for feminine looking 2d "guys" and think it makes you gay, only to realize that guys in real life are totally different and you may not like them at all.

>reproduction that is risky, with risks that can be minimized
vs
>give up and die childless and isolated
It really says a lot about you that this is even considered a choice. There is only one real option here, at worst the risk could put you back at square one.

The risk isn't really what bothers you, it's the effort involved. You see starvation as a valid alternative to farming because your crops might fail, so what's the point? The only reason you view homosexuality as a valid choice is because of your obsession with pleasure and how you conflate it with success.

Physical pleasure isn't a valid alternative to happiness. You can't substitute one for the other. You're choosing assured failure because the world is too scary.

its because of parasites that seek to be spread to other bungholes.

>Are you one of the open relationship type faggots?
No. But I'm a dude and I ain't marrying another dude. Marriage is a stupid concept, if you're loyal you don't need marriage and if you're disloyal marriage means nothing to you anyway.

It's stupid false shit people do because they think it makes them feel better. What they should be doing is learning how to not be assholes instead. Good luck there.

Explain lesbians

Based Mexicano

attention whores

Very few in number compared to gay men, comparatively little sex drive, consistently self-harm and abuse partners, almost all revert after their phase ends. Not hard to explain a phenomenon that doesn't exist.

They don't have anywhere near the real world presence that fags do.

Human sexuality is naturally variable. It isn't a binary gay or straight switch, or gay, straight or bisexual switch, rather it's a spectrum that's influenced by many different factors.

Thus, factors that influence sexual orientation continue to be passed onto offspring due to the fact that they are not always exclusively coupled with homosexual behaviour.

In addition, the cultural rejection of homosexuality would've led to homosexuals having lives where they married, had children and hid their homosexuality from the world, increasing the number of factors that influence homosexuality in the gene pool.

This is of course assuming homosexuality has a genetic basis, even if that genetic basis boils down to hormone production in the mother rather than any form of "gay gene" in the child. In truth, due to the variable nature of sexuality in all humans (though admittedly it is a spectrum that clusters at the heterosexual end, as you'd expect given the advantages heterosexuals have when it comes to reproducing), sexuality is also influenced by environmental factors and behaviour decisions, which are far more subject to randomness than genes are.

>2030-40
>nig nogs in africa

>Very few in number compared to gay men

3.3% of men, 3.6% of women.

Fuck my dick. I think that was the first time I ever fapped to completion to a single picture of 2 people kissing before.

Japanese gay culture:
>cute boys doing cute things
American gay culture
>obnoxious drama queens being as loud and abhorrent as possible while sticking as many foreign objects into their holes as they can

This week on pornhub: Polack gets Bluepilled by Jewish Twink

The gay gene is more of a "dick loving gene," and it's more of a gene package like autism. It makes the individual, guy or girl, like men. It survived because women who have this gene set have more babies than women without this gene set.

God damn, I wish I was gay sooooo bad. These boys are so fucking cute, I just want to suck on their dicks all day long. Why can't I just be gay?

Submission to the alpha male is a survival mechanism

>homosexuality is due not to a presence of a homosexual gene but rather the absence of heterosexual gene.
so everyone is gay by default?

As a homosexual I think it's either:

Where you can find anything sexually attractive if you attach traits to it, like a jet with cute anime eyes or sexualizing it by description.

Or, it's a mutation which isn't really related to natural selection and just happens like metabolism.

Not "gay", but lacking a genetic inhibitor that discourages you from recognizing sexually attractive traits in members of the same sex.

As a bifag I feel pretty confident that sexuality is very largely a learned behavior, but there's always some basis in genetics for everything.

uuuh, i got news for you bud.

I love how the paper says to not let your children on Cred Forums and then contradicts itself by saying knowledge is power. What they really mean is: knowledge is power, exept if it's the kind of knowledge we don't want you to acquire.

It is my theory that homosexuality only exists because heterosexuality in humans has grown so very deep and powerful and complex as opposed to animals who only do bi stuff sometimes. Basically you get your lust for males or females from your heterosexual parents/ancestors. Kind of like why there are males with nipples. It became easier to evolve female nipples without them being female only. Being gay is just straightness that seeps into the other sex. So it doesn't evolve away, especially when there aren't enough gays to put a dent to hetero family rearing.

Read up on "gay germ theory", there's a solid chance it's pathogenetic.

Other boys are cute, i wanna kiss them

so you survived shanking, bretty good leaf, bretty good

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personally its my desperation to find a SO that also likes me.
Im ok w traps

even if we agree that fags are born this way:
I can understand when dude wants to take it in the ass, he has more estrogen, he identifies as a woman or something
But what about guys who are top? Or bears? Or whatever. In what way are they born? What do they identify as? I don't get it.

>tfw no boys to kiss tho

checked, and agree

Why do you wanna do anal with women?

Gays are not genetic, but more like sickle cell anemia - a natural defense against malaria in tropical regions.

Homosexualityis a way for civilization to keep moving without women.

in my experience a majority of gay guys generally want to get fucked by men. The tops fucking us are either greek style 'if it's cute I'll fuck it' type guys or DISCREETNMASC4SAME gay guys who are really insecure about their masculinity and keep the fact that they want to get plowed secret

The ideas of how to corrupt others and youth haven't changed much or left the realm of human knowledge.

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I felt we were lacking in 2DQT's

If it were part of natural selection to cut down the population there would be more homosexuals now than ever before but the number stays at a steady 4%. (read: you're wrong)

The truth is every man that breeds has the gay gene in them. In the womb this gene can go haywire and cause you to be gay but otherwise it makes you more suitable to women because they see them as masculine with just enough of "nurture" to be deemed a good partner to breed with.

I wanted to type about anal with woman part myself, but deleted that part. IDK. I sometimes fuck my wife in the ass, but that's too much maintenance and I don't want to hurt her too much. Are there people who are so fixated on anal, that they exclusively stick in the butt? And it's easier to find male butts?
still does not explain gender thing. If you are a 100% fudge packer you are simply deviant/wacked in your head.

Because homosexuality is the best kind of love a man/boy can get, your partner is not a degenerate woman but someone who is more intelligent and phisically powerful and the chances to share the same interests with another male are higher.

They have widespread STDs, diseases, and poverty.

An ass is an ass

>man/boy
>boy

this is mostly true for normal gays.
Ive got 2 sets of friends who are normal gays who have normal partners. They like eachother and have similar hobbies.

Myself on the other hand, is cuter looking and i can only find faggots who want to use me as a sex toy. Similarities dont matter, just wanna pound ass.

It makes me sad desu. All the normie gays get nice boyfriend and all i get are degenerates.

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are there any boylove/ gay yaois i can read/watch i swear the same yaoi videos that were around when i were a kid are all that's still out there years later

Wait wait wait
The abbreviation for to be honest is filtered to 'desu'
>servamp
>the anime that ended in a hug

iktf, it's so hard to find good yaoi, I just want to watch cute guys kiss

"Natural" selection stops the moment a species develops the ability to care for and defend the weakest. Usually this co-incides with tool usage.

Think about it. The more advanced tools get, the better we're able to protect and preserve invalids. We're stopping the natural culling of the gene pool.

Some societies implement artificial culling. Banishment. Executions. As societies advance, they can drop the need for these barbaries as well; one can simply test a fetus for abnormalities, and abort it there.

Other societies take the whole "defend everyone, even the weak shitheads who contribute nothing" to its logical extreme. These societies are, ultimately, the ones we read the downfall of.

tl;dr: eugenics fixes faggotry

Not much these days other than softcore boy love.
Servamp is pretty gay, i posted a pic from a scene.
Cheer danshi i also posted is an all boys cheer leading team anime.
>pic related cutest boy
The one you replied to is empire of corpses which is a movie. The guy with the notebook os actually as zombie but i really wanted to see him and his master(to the right) kiss.

I'm exactly in your situation, come here and we cuddle all night along :3

Can we agree that there is nothing wrong with being gay as long as you contribute to society and are willing to fight for your country?

Nice yaoi ID roll

Thanks
True that. I have no problem with sex if I want it since it just falls on my lap but sometimes you just want to lay in bed and watch a movie or just nap. And most people here think that's gayer than me fucking them. Feels bad man.

T-thanks
maybe we could get along? I'm white and cute.

I'm from Northern Italy with German ancestors. I'm not a nigger.

I finally dropped all my gating sites cuz its just all shit ._.
How talking to another gay on dating site goes down
>him: hi
>me: hi
>him: you're cute, can you host?/ wanna fuck?/ dtf?/ are you a virgin+ i love fucking virgins

Think the cake taking one was the guy who asked me if i wanted to get aids, he was 'poz'

Im white and cute too but there's an ocean between us.
German boys are cute like the one i posted before, my highschool gaycrush

I apologize.
I'm not flag savvy being a pol-newfag
I recognize very few of the flags. And in the instance of it, forgot italy was a thing

The last 2Dqt i have saved that wont get me banned.

Can this thread just 404 already so I don't have to see this gay ass hentai cancer everytime I refresh pol

no

Your country makes excellent gay porn

Deal with it

Your country isnt a prime example of how things should be done.

link

recognised by Canada-kun :3

the right one will come to you, just wait

this post is so underrated that it literally has not been acknowledged

Downs syndrom is a genetic anomally that happens when one of your parents gametes carry 2 sets of somatic chromosomes instead of one. Meaning the downie has 3 of a chromosome instead of 2. It is safe to asume most (99%) of downies are a product of meiotic errors and not a genetic disease transmitted for generations.

I'm losing faith in this "right one" claim

I'm pretty certain that homosexuality derives from a heritable disorder where we tend to have less restrictions placed on what we find attractive, I think that accounts for why so many gays are also pedos, degenerates fetishists and all manner of disgusting behavior.

Also, there could be a psychological reasoning for it. Being a submissive man is a reaction to a dominating person within the tribe, so in order to instill that hierarchy, some men turn toward being a beta bottom. This is maximized in male centric environment where sex with the opposite sex minimized, so prisons tend to have a lot of gay butt sex where the "alphas" of the complex rape the newer weaker ones.

Homosexuality is related to overpopulation.

Also, keep in mind that words lack substance without action. you are not gay unless you engage in gay activity no matter what kinds of urges you have. It is simply a lack of roles in society, and duty, that you are allowed in boredom to act upon these urges and become a massive flaming faggot as urges become fetishes.

get a load of this guy lol

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No such thing as being gay.
People are ""gay"" out of a need for attention and have given up attempting to find a women for whatever reason.

don't give up, just be patient

Firefoxes know not of any natural boundaries where their degeneracy can be stopped. That is why we must gas them along with the skypes and googs

Passive genes pass through siblings to cousins, gays support those so they become more successful and reproduce.

Not rocket science.

>The people in this thread exist

wewlad, reminder this shits shilled by /lgbt/, they usually shill it on /r9k/

Beards

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fucking kill yourself luigi

>mfw the full image of that

>saving this kind of cartoon

kys

Because it's not a genetic trait, it's just natural sexual deviancy that has existed in the shadows of humanity since the egyptians. Interestingly enough, as homosexuality became more commonplace in ancient societies it was a good indicator of a cultural purge or entire societal collapse, look at rome. Homosexuality isn't in itself a problem, it's a symptom of a culture experiencing rotting to its core.

With feminism homosexuality is the only option left.

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Carriers of the gay gene aren't always gay, and gay people aren't always fully aware or accepting of their sexuality. Sometimes the denial is so deep they wind up married with children.
You could theoretically eliminate homosexuality on a genetic level, but you'd be killing/sterilizing a huge number of people - far more than the whatever-percentage who are actually gay. And at the end of the day, what would you actually gain from all this?

Complete sexual repression, which is what religious people want.

*tips leaf*

Natural selection acts upon genes (technically their products). Homosexuality isn't genetic.

Are you triggered?

Human sexuality is malleable and variable so we can fuck the most fertile partner, even though she might change from region to region or millenium to millenium.

This malleable variability means there's a top 10% of sexualities, the "chad"s, who pass on a lot of their genes.
There is also the bottom 10%.

So long as that top 10% is producing tons of babies, it doesn't matter what the bottom 10% does.

So, human sexuality isn't selected for "Always straight". It's selected for "Be variable, in the off chance you get a highly successful turbochad".
I.e. Natural selection selects for faster natural selection. Which makes sense.

As you may have noticed, that with any system that has a high amount of variation/mutation, there'll be a lot of duds. These are the gays. And the anthroplanes. And the ppl who want their city to get farted on by a giant loli. But they are a necessary downside of human sexuality being adaptable.

Now, if you ask, "well why haven't we come up with a -specific- block on Homosexuality, while keeping the rest of the malleability"?

We have. It's called homophobia. But bless our little simian minds we can override it if we so choose.

The future looks fucking horrifying

If you ask me, gay suicide is just natural selection, given that they're non-breeding disease carriers, and thus contribute negatively to population growth.

So Homosexuality is natural
Homophobia is natural
And fags killing themselves is natural.
Nature is cool.

>Homosexuality is only genetic

read a book nigger.

Many homos are bisexuals, who have attraction to both sexes, but who prefer the company of men

There are many more bisexuals than full homos

Some don't turn full homo until after 20 years of bad marriage and three kids.

In the modern world, a bisexual like me, who has had countless negative experiences with women and seen the emotional and psychological bullshit, prefer the company of men

Homosexuality is not a genetic occurrence. It's the result of early psychosexual trauma, which can be produced under any circumstances, but especially under conditions where heteronormative culture is rigorously and violently enforced.

homosexuality is a moral problem, not a genetic one

Because gay people can have sex, it seems there is a genetic component to it.
But it is also a contrived culture now, used by politicians and activists, like all (((subcultures))). You can get rewarded for it. At that point you should ask: how have shoe makers/drug dealers/ McDonalds employees survived natural selection?

I don;t have anything against genetic homos. Its the contrived consumer/political culture that is corrupt and diminishes natural freedom.

Should have been clearer, I was directly addressing OP's point with the starting premise that it is. There are so many things that may or may not cause it that trying to address them all just gets you bogged down in a nitpicking contest.

Psychological too

Retards were grade A material on the farms or even as soldiers back in the day

My grandma told me that back when she was a kid, every larger farm had a tard for heavy lifting, it was only after the marshall plan that their brute strength was no longer needed and they were put in asylums instead

>natural selection
>real

praise da lord

there's no gene but there's a switch that determines thresh holds in hormone levels before the brain is fully developed
if it fucks up and it's a gay male it's because he accidentally inherited his mother's direct instructions on what levers to pull and when

like think of a machine that makes both cake and brownies. and it accidentally puts a brownie on the cake assembly line because it didn't put enough baking powder in

>American gay culture
>jacked 6'3 autistic man gives fitness advice

because it's an epigenetic blunder that doesn't happen enough to be a threat to the population, fucking duh that's usually how it works

Good post that deserves recognition.

Here's a (You)

It's not genetic but is caused by factors in the womb

No. It's determined by estrogen levels in the mother during fetal development. That's my guess at least.

Homosexuality isn't a genetic predisposition (unless you look like a bitch or a dyke then it's probably more likely that at one point you'll give in).

As someone that experiences homosexual impulses I can confidently say that it's a learned behaviour and not inherent.

Because sexual fetishes are not genetic.

Western civilisation is inherently gay. Especially when compared to others like Islamic, Asian and African

Prosperity creates homos

>Western civilisation is inherently gay
>Prosperity creates homos
Prosperity isn't inherently Western...

>Choice
Spotted the faggot

Arabs are gold medal at fucking young boys, you triple nigger

>african tribes that feed semen to young boys
>middle eastern mudslimes who rape boys

Get your facts straight, shitcunt.

not an argument

I often get homosexual tendencies but usually don't act on it. It has to be psychological

What? Your stated two things in your post:

a) that Western Civ is inherently gay
b) "prosperity breeds homos"

One can only conclude from these two propositions that, because successful economies engender homosexuality, and some elements and sections of Western nations have enjoyed prosperity, that renders Western Civ to be inherently gay.

The thing is that, even if it is true that higher wealth produces more homosexuals, "prosperity" isn't something that is inherent or exclusive to Western Civ. Neither, for that matter, is homosexuality.

This is the ABSOLUTE STUPIDEST SHIT I've heard on Cred Forums in months! HOLY FUCKING BALLSACK NIGGER JESUS.

Because evolution has a mind of its own RIGHT! Because evolution has had to deal with human """overpopulation""" millions of time RIGHT!

FUCK ME IN THE FUCKING ASS IS POL REALLY THIS FUCKING STUPID

HAHAHAHAHAH

yeah because in Islamic hell holes they TOTALLY don't have little boys dress up like women so they have something to look at outside the home.

What the fuck kind of niggered brain is inside your head

source

pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/dancingboys/

Oh maybe its because its not genetic
really make you think

This is closet to the real answer.
When in a group of people there's scarcity of resources, select members of a social species may develop towards fagginess during puberty in order to avoid further overpopulation and infighting, which would be damaging in the case of conflict with a rival group.

>tfw you'll never be a cute feminine guy

>You think people are born gay or become gay after psychically sensing with their X-gene that somehow that their population is too large?
life is complex, there are lots of unkown mechanisms

go do some math to wrap your head around it

>american doesn't understand the question mark edition

SUCK MY GOD DAMNED FUCKIND DICK SPIC!

MUH we don't understand, so evolution must be fighting overpopulation!

This ungrounded BULLSHIT is ridiculous to the point I'm not even sure you are a sentient human being.

You really think evolution is calculating the global or even local population levels?! Please tell me what other magical things evolution does

Why are British people such fucking ugly, stupid dykes? Really why, are they the biggest gash fucking wankers on the planet?

>You are a dumb ass!
Does that look like a question to you, you stupid Brit fucker?

And here's an effeminate British "man" to help explain things, I know your fine high English sensibilities must make it difficult to communicate with someone such as myself.

its not congenital

Butthurt faggot detected.

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there ARE studies for this, the sisters of gay men tend to produce more children

>How has homosexuality survived natural selection?
Because there will always be an OP.

Calm down m8

>your mad

Go back to Cred Forums or one of your feel generals you happen to give a political sounding title to.

>You will never be an absolutely worthless human being who could never function as a brother, father, or strong friend.
>You will never be a completely sexual object without any value apart from your physical appearance and the sexual pleasure others gain from you
>you will always be able to grasp and experience the joy of your strength, your pride, your family's pride of you

Feels good

Shut the fuck up german, how would you even know what calm or any emotion for that matter looks like? You haven't "felt" anything in your entire life.

No no no silly that's wrong, it's obviously that evolution has within it a counter of sorts that determines over population. Of course it's measurements seem a bit off since the world isn't over populated, but what do I know, I'm not evolution after all

I'm Scottish, we go aff oor nuts over anything. What are you even upset about?

Homosexuality develops when some event makes you gay
It could be society or you got molested or anything really

Theres no gay gene and your not "born gay"

You are the one who continuously replies to me you fucking immigrant.

Since you're right, being genetically homosexual would kill a gene dead after not very many generations at all, Greg Cochran has the 'gay germ' theory. Sounds far fetched, but we know of other once far-fetched similar things, like, that ovarian cancer is caused by a virus, and toxoplasmosis is a germ that gets to your brain that changes behavior. Anyway, Greg thinks it might be transmitted while the baby is in the womb. He says the reason no-one's found it yet is that no-one has thought to look for it. It took forever for people to discover that ulcers are caused by bacteria, too, because no-one considered it likely enough to research it (except one guy, who eventually won through). At any rate, obviously not wanting children is /such/ a powerful evolutionary de-selector that it couldn't be genetic - he shows through the breeder's equation that 'benevolent gay uncles' aren't even close to making up for the hit that a gay gene would take. Anyway if you googled 'Greg Cochran gay germ theory' you'd probably find it.

because homosexuality is personality not genetics

It is not designed for exit, only for entry.

Inbreedders....?

>continuously
>twice
just looking out for you, it's not healthy to get so upset over nothing. Take care Chad

>couldn't be genetic

Unless, it causes females to have an above average amount of children. Or really it could be "piggybacking" off some other gene that gives humans a big enough advantage that it allows them to have more children and also is beneficial enough that it outways the negative of every once in a while having offspring that is very unlikely to reproduce

It could be instinctual thing, the more sense of overpopulation in your MIND the less likely you will procreate

hence developed liberalized nations have more gays or just arn't breeding period

Thee times, and counting.

Personality is heavily influenced by genetics. Don't tell me you're one of those people who says things like
>low IQ's and blacks just need to be raised in a good environment and they'll turn out just fine

>It could be instinctual thing, the more sense of overpopulation in your MIND the less likely you will procreate

But that's just an outside influence, I guess you could then say some people are more vulnerable to outside influences.

But that still doesn't make this "overpopulation gene" something that was selected for, or even exist in the first place.

It's not heritable - hence, there's nothing to select against. You may as well ask why broken legs or Down's syndrome have survived natural selection.

All faggots please go to your containment board

Recessive gene found in women that is passed to their son's.

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8 inch dicks?

What the fuck happened to my board?

Not really sure but there must be some he genetic component because the female siblings of a gay male are more fertile and have more children on average than females with only straight male siblings.

o shit nigga

checked that logic, also el one posto fuck this thread

Shoulda put a windmill of peace in the background.

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Still hanging out here italyfriend
My IP changed when i got home :p

>muh safe space!
>muh hug box!
>muh sekret kklub!!!!!

god this thread is so hot

This is a gay thread. Why can't I get a boyfriend? Oh yeah I'm 2 SHY.

h-hello :3

same here senpai

that feel when no qt 3.141 bf

How goes :3

Why do you use that smiley.

It's almost pretentiously faggy.

As you can see through this thread, being tricked by anime

But really it is a perversion and you're always going to have a population who's perverted enough to fall into it if enabled by wider prosperity. Unfortunate fact, especially in our modern day hyper-hedonistic fuckhole.

There is no gene for homosexuality. It's mostly environmental.

They only do that because in Canada not fagging off is the most edgy contrarian thing you can do

Hey faggots this is Cred Forums keep it Cred Forums

^~^
You would know, sweden

But also 'cause boys have dicks which are great, and vaginas are gross, right?

Let's make Cred Forums gay again.
Me too :(
Thinking about my lonely life without a boyfriend :'(

I'm interested to hear your point on why homosexuality is a morality issue. Is there something specific that is morally wrong about being gay?

>How has schizophrenia survived natural selection?
>How has borderline personality disorder survived natural selection?
>How has depression survived natural selection?
>How has [insert mental illness] survived natural selection?

Fk off with your Darwinism bullshit

Same way downs syndrome does.

Im too poor to come to Italy unfortunately

same way retardness does.

Yeah, because I see so many fucking Canadians using it.

I'm rich enought to come to Canada :3

>Wanting to move to canada
It's like wanting to dip yourself into a pool of shit, but considering the content of your posts I wouldn't be surprised if that is quite regular for you.

Posting a catboy before page 11!

naziboys are better

Damn must be nice o~o
I'm slowly working myself outta debt

nyan :3

Pls post more qt nazi boys

>/polgbt/ or gay threads over Cred Forums are if not, ALWAYS filled with lonely avatarfaggots

I'm not the only one who is seeing this right? I don't know what to feel about it. I don't feel pity yet it just seems so pathetic almost, especially from the perspective of a gay man.