Why is this shit still an issue in 2016?

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big pharma kikes need their shekels

It's a state issue, not a federal one. Keep it that way

It's not.

My nation would rather a plebiscite on gay marriage, which is an issue for barely 1% of the population, than a plebiscite on the complete legalisation of marijuana or the complete criminalization of affirmative action.

Big pharma
privately funded prisons
idiots

Pick one

No it's not.
Heroin and pot are in the same drug category.
>drugs.com/article/csa-schedule-1.html

Marijuana has a medicinal use as a painkiller, mood elevator and mass psychotropic (ie; anti-anxiety, anti-depressant, etc.)

>privately funded prisons
There are no such things you retard.
There are for profit prisons, but those are funded by the state.
Nobody is going to be like "hmm, I have a lot of money. I think I'll give it to the prison"

that's what I meant

Because Generation X, Y and Z are fucking lazy enough, why do we need to legalize something that will kill their drive to do anything, that much more?

Do you realize how much big pharma could capitalize off of legalization? If you think you'll get in trouble for growing some now, just wait until the pharma companies have a patent on every strain and every single bud is regulated by the FDA and USDA. Not only would you go to prison, but you'd be sued into oblivion too

Well then maybe you should have a better idea of what you're talking about before you open your mouth.
That's part of being an adult

It's a state issue, not a federal one

>It was from opium that morphine, a derivative, was developed as a pain killer in approximately 1810. It was considered a wonder drug because it eliminated severe pain associated with medical operations or traumatic injuries. It left the user in a completely numb euphoric dream-state. Because of the intense euphoric side effects, the drug in 1811 was named after the Greek god of dreams, Morpheus. By the mid 1850’s, morphine was available in the United States and became more and more popular with the medical profession. The benefits of using the drug to treat severe pain was considered nothing short of remarkable to doctors of the time.
Learn some history before tossing that argument around

Once it's decriminalized federally then it's a state issue. But even in Colorado the feds can bust you for possession

He misspoke you fucking autist.

There's a difference between misspeaking and being fundamentally inaccurate. Addressing that difference is what separates us from the intellectually inadequate

Does anybody have the infographic which lists all the companies and products which could easily be replaced by hemp if it were legal? Seen it here dunno 2 years ago, but forgot to save it.

>Federal law banning marijuana
>"It's a states issue"

Fucking retard.

cause /r9k/ doesn't get invited to parties so they hate weed and sex

>the federal government sets the language for what a schedule 1 substance is
>this makes it a state issue
????
>dea.gov/druginfo/ds.shtml
It's already well known that heroin had a medicinal use once upon a time.
It is also worthy of note that Canada is working towards the decriminalization of heroin allowing doctors to prescribe it to opioid addicts.
>washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/09/13/canada-has-just-approved-prescription-heroin/

Good argument though it definitely throws a wrench into it. Marijuana is definitely less addictive and less harmful than heroin.

>There's a difference between misspeaking and being fundamentally inaccurate.

Yes, and he misspoke - stop acting like you're even old enough to be on this website.

We just need a huge social media-fueled push for marijuana decriminalization (or legalization if you prefer).

Get a meme traveling around facebook or twitter that succinctly explains why marijuana being illegal is ridiculous. Get some internet celebrity faggot to push that shit or something. It'll get a ball rolling.

This is already happening in my state. Fuckkn Jews took complete control and an Israeli company has come in to produce patented smell free weed

Best way to troll Cred Forums is to just say something slightly wrong.

lmao get fucked

I think it was based on this picture, but with remarks about big companies which it would hurt.

it isn't, only leftists think the weed meme is a real issue

What is
>porn
>social media
>video games

Lets ban those too cause why should we let people make their own choices? You sound like a fucking nanny state liberal.

>Slightly

Misspoke would be if he said non profit instead of for profit. He said "privately funded" instead of for profit. Those are fundamentally different. If I hadn't pointed out the mistake, he probably would've kept on spreading his ignorance. Why? Because he didn't misspeak, he misunderstood

Because nobody likes stupid pothead culture.

Cheech and Chong were shit. Kill yourselves. Fucking googles.

God made all the plants on the earth and then God gave the plants to man. And some sinful men think think they can make rules about what God has created and given to man.

weed is degenerate

gas yourself faggot

The issue with that is there's no identity politics behind it, no one feels good about it since there's no victim to point to and claim you're white knighting for.

Because gay culture is so much better.

>Because gay culture is so much better.
People clearly like it more than potheads, which says a lot.

Weed legalization is redpill

Weed culture is bluepill

Because gay people getting married doesn't make the fed look stupid.
The problem with weed not being at least reclassified by the fed is that they don't want to have to admit that laws will need to change when we are able to research something.

A plant is degenerate?

>patent on every strain and every single bud
So autistic

>Girls.jpg
Go back to your cuckshed, Hans.

Did you actually not read the first sentence of that post? Of course drug culture is degenerate, any culture that surrounds a vice will inevitably be degenerate. This is still not an argument against being able to buy weed at a liquor store, in fact weed will probably become so mundane in that situation that a stoner culture would dissipate.

But sure, we need buttpromises for fags!

They can't patent a natural plant which is the point of keeping it illegal. If they make Thier own they can patent and if they somehow destroy all the natural seeds and plants they can monopolize bit any stoner with a carpet can pick seeds out of it enough that that probably literally impossible

If it's a product you consume, the FDA and USDA will have control of it.

Great comeback nigger. I wish my rhetorical skills were on your level.

Yep. Because drinking alcohol has gone out of style, too. Fucktard.

It's a federal one you shitty ass. If the feds keep it illegal they can still prosecute for it an any company in the union, no matter the state law, can still drug test and fire you for it. See Colorado and Washington, all of my works contractors are obligated to drug test or we won't do business.

>weed will probably become so mundane in that situation that a stoner culture would dissipate

As a user myself I wish I could defend your argument here. I hate stoner culture as much as the next but there are things like Rasta that won't go away. You'll still see guys wearing Bob Marley shirts talking about the holy herb and saying we all need it.
Unfortunately Rasta has been around longer than the issue of legalization or stoner culture.

Many edgy teenagers will stop falling into it though because it won't be a social taboo to smoke weed. It will become as commonplace as smoking cigarettes or taking aspirin soon.

thats if you sell it you fucking faggot. one can grow it himself

But If I'm growing it myself I'll put all 6 from the gov on them for coming in my house, which they won't do because it would be legal.

I should clarify what I mean by the gov, because I'm not talking about the cops. Pic related

Western society is degenerate enough. Do you actually want an army of hippies now? Keep it the way it is. The ones who really need it will find ways of obtaining it.

>Implying the state will give a shit
They won't even allow you to collect your own rainwater.
If they're going to legalize the drug based on the premise that they can make money through taxes, you can be damn sure they're gonna do all they can to get that money.
The state government already limits how much you can grow on your own, you think the federal government won't?

Growing weed is illegal in the entire United States of America. If the feds want to bust you, legally they can bust you. Just because your state looks the other way doesn't mean it's legal

Big Pharma wants them dead because they're a great alternative to expensive drugs

Big Jail wants them dead because they fill their prisons with stoners

Big Alcohol/Tobacco want them dead because they offer a safer and better high.

Too many lobbies want them stopped at all cost.

Because the drug war allows us to lock up millions of dangerous dindus before they commit major crimes. That is the entire point you moron.

there are restrictions on it because its still illegal on the federal level. you're just spewing bullshit at this point. theres no way to restrict the production once the substance is deemed legal. its going to be like growing tomatoes or carrots in your backyard. i don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

>4 times as much hemp can be grown in one acre compared to cotton.

The big cotton jew hates it

you're insinuating that the people aren't going to mind a total monopoly. you're a retard.

>there are restrictions on it because its still illegal on the federal level
Wtf are you talking about?
Do you really think the law makers just wanted to kind of legalize it? They didn't restrict it because they were afraid of the government, they legalized it because they weren't scared of the government

my cat can get high why cant I

Monopolies are supply side you retard, it doesn't matter what people mind.
Do you mind your utilities company? Don't want to pay for their water? Well to damn bad, you got no choice

no retard. you cited the state making restrictions on number of plants. thats a concession to the federal government who still claims it illegal. there is going to be no way to police production on private property once the substance itself becomes legal. just shut the fuck up

They want to ban all psychoactives, even alcohol, so they arent going to legalise another that theyve "sucsessfully" banned. Watch as tobacco use becomes criminalised.

>thats a concession to the federal government
That's a baseless assumption on your part

But the smell is one of my favourite things.

Why would the jews do this?

This.
Weed itself isn't degenerate.
It's weed culture that's degenerate as shit.
Imagine if people on alcohol had the same culture as le weed fags.

fucking weed fags are low lie loser drug addicts and it makes me grit my teeth how they let them get away with murder in states like washington colorado and california

Nice shitpost.

I don't like the idea of legalization. Until we have enough scientific evidence that outweighs the problems we've proven with marijuana abuse/addiction it should remain in the classification it's in. I don't like the idea of underage b&s taking mom or dad's weed and selling it at school. I don't like the idea of getting his animal high because he's too high or careless to take proper care of his pet. Veterinarians in legal areas have already seen issues with animals, especially doggos eating edibles and having problems from marijuana ODs. I suppose it's true that marijuana doesn't kill but it does impair driving for some people. There's also been an increase of traffic related incidents for people under the influence of pot. I'm not saying all stoners can't drive but some people just can't handle their shit or don't watch closely enough for cops. If it's a natural plant, why is there evidence for people who develop lung problems smoking it over a period of time? Also people do really dumb shit if they smoke pot. Like my retarded roommate who wants to light a campfire in the middle of a thunderstorm. Yes DUDE WEED LMAO legalization sure would be great...

The two aren't comparable. I smoke some weed and work on a game or a computer project for six hours no problem. You won't see someone drinking themselves into doing their mental work. Physical sure, but anyone can think their way through physical labor even a drunk.

The Oklahoma State Troopers have deposited 0.50 to your account

can you tell me what other reason there would be? can you tell me how these people can possibly police production on private property for individual consumption once its totally legal? you're the one making baseless assumptions that they would A. have the intent to do so and B. have the resources capable. Thats not a reality when everybody has it. Its like moonshine. Its totally legal if you aren't selling it. The government wont be selling this. Companies will be. And they wont be able to dictate two different allotments for corporations and people. You don't understand capitalism and the free market.

>You don't understand capitalism and the free market
Nigger I'm an actuary. I understand economics better than you ever will.

You really think they don't have the resources to raid grow ops? Then how are they doing it right now you retard?
They look at infrared arrays. They look at power usage. It takes a lot of fucking energy to grow weed, so each plant will have a clearly visible signature.

You still haven't said why they put limits as a concession to the federal government. What are they saying, "we want to disobey the federal government but not by too much"

You do know the amount of plants you can grow varies by region, right? It's not like there's a set guideline on how to concede to the federal government.

What the fuck are you talking about? Go somewhere it's legal, you won't find anyone who isn't over 60 or a religious zealot who has issues. When they take Tobacco, the most addictive and powerful legal drug available, off the market, let me know. "Weed" has been proven to solve countless health issues from Parkinson's to MS, to Gout, to PTSD... Meanwhile NO ONE has ever died from smoking weed.

And if you drive drunk you are a retard... Does that mean we ban Alcohol? What a stupid and pointless equivelency from someone who obviously hails from a state still getting FUCKED by the Tobacco and Alcohol and Pharmaceutical industry.

You should see the drugs in Colorado, in my town people don't even bother looking for hard drugs... Marijuana is infinitely more enjoyable and doesn't cause issues unless you are a noob who oversmokes.

dude you need to chill out and have a bong man

Plenty other uses besides medicinal, recreational, and cloth, see But yeah, there are countless lobbies interested in keeping things as they are.

Why is this shit still an issue in 2016?

>how they let them get away with murder
What did he mean by this?

Here in Colorado we have grow ops in practically every house, nigger... I'd love to see the Federal government raid these people who are armed to the teeth and part of a growing industry that will revolutionize the entire country. People like me don't have to take painkillers every day thanks to Marijuana. The market here works incredibly well, you get advanced info about every nug you buy. All quality controlled and some organically grown. Much higher standards than Alcohol or Tobacco, thanks to the deep relationship that people who are medically or recreationally inclined have with the plant. The quality is astounding and this shit is going NOWHERE.

Which is why I said it should be legalized federally dumbass

I well water do I pay for that?

Nope.

>I understand economics better than you ever will
>they have the resources to police every single property to make sure Sally is growing 10 plants and not 5
>they can patent it
>they can produce legislation that restricts citizen A from growing it while allowing citizen B to produce it and sell it wholesale to a Walmart or Whole foods

you fucking weebs need to fuck off. you need to get off the muh degeneracy train and quit trying to ruin it for everyone else because you're a fucking square

*is growing 5 and not 10

As a King/PM/President of your country, would you like having an army of irresponsible millennials getting high every minute of the day? Face it, if weed became legal everyone would just smoke joints erryday and turn into happy submissive zombies.

That's a stereotype. Colorado's productivity increased.

My mate told me that.

As someone who has smoked more than my fair share of weed, I think it's pretty much for degenerates. That said, I'm ok with it being legal, but society should probably still stigmatize it.

>complains about happy submissive zombies
>weed is bad because mommy and daddy and the police told me so

Kek

U-huh. Just like how it happened in portugal, netherlands and norway.

Oh, wait. It fucking didn't. Get out of here, pasta-nigger, and take your uninformed opinion with you.

>lobbyist.

Because it manages pain more effectively and will be proven to have "miraculous" benefits once scientists can actually study it.

Anyone else here deal? Part of me wants it decriminalized so i can actually go legit with it, but ironically having crunched the numbers it's more risky than just plain dealing in the black market.

>the alt-right capital of the Internet largely backs marijuana reform

Glorious. In the next few years, decriminalization at the federal level will be a thing and lazy cops will have to get off their dead asses and do real police work for once.

No more easy arrest quotas, faggots :)