Guys i feel that socialism will bring prosperity to this country and unite it and we can stop fighting each other...

Guys i feel that socialism will bring prosperity to this country and unite it and we can stop fighting each other because we won't be fighting over scraps anymore. Am I wrong about this?

I feel like socialism could make this country really strong because everyone's full potential would be unlocked because people wouldn't have to stress about rent and healthcare. They could focus on education, work, innovation, creativity and we could have colonies on other planets in no time. With infinite space at our disposal, there will no longer be any need to be so hostile to one another or be at each other's throats.

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And when we default on our national debt I bet you'll be so proud. Live in reality fuck-wit.

We would be supporting God knows how many hippies sitting in the park playing in their drum circles while the rest of us work. Oh wait I've realized I just described the life of the typical liberal arts professor

yes

you are retarded

It is not socialism OR capitalism it is the right mix of both.

We will need to go more and more socialist as tech advances though as we have slowly done over the last 100+ years.

OP this is an idea that sounds good initially but very quickly proves to be disastrous.

>because everyone's full potential would be unlocked because people wouldn't have to stress about rent and healthcare

This behavior can only he expected in a society with a homogenous culture, homogenous values, and a deeply-rooted disdain for those who are able but unwilling to work. America has none of those attributes anymore. Socialism would crush us.

when u post a thread with a stupid idea but put a picture of a fine ass girl because of the regions of the brains it lights up thats when i know you're a jew

ITT a former bernout desperately tries to justify the feelings his cucked idol instilled in him.

Sorry but there are too many lazy googles in the States and it wouldn't ignite a prosperous utopia, but rather, you know what fuck it you god damn fucking retard. Check Venezuala most recently. Fucking jesus christ. How old are you? 23? 19? Give or take 2 or 3 years. Dumb fucking google

Can't have nice things like that and open borders

wealth gets created through hard work, not through relaxing and recreational art

socialism means that your hard work will be shared with all people, which makes it even less rewarding compared to the hardships, than it was initially

Well ill give you an example of what will happen

I am a long haul truck driver irl because i did shit in college

If socialism is going to give me enough money to pay bills doing a much easier job around the house then i will quit driving your stupid amazon shit across the country. You now have 1 less truck driver because i would much rather be at home fucking my wife than be out here trying to pay all my bills.

>Let's give more power to the government so they can "fix" all of our problems.
>I'm sure that it will totally work better than what we already do, which is give the government tons of money and power to fix problems and then they don't do it, but also use all of that power we gave them to infringe upon our rights.
We need a system of minimal government which can be flexible enough to produce home grown (state/local) fixes for most problems. We need to reduce restrictions and regulations because by-and-large they don't actually work, if a restriction or regulation must be put in place it should be vetted by a group of people with as little personal incentive in the issue as possible. We should expand the rights of the individual and stop things like prohibition, which verifiably do not work and simultaneously imprison non-violent people as well as vacuum up precious money which could be used elsewhere.

In short, the answer is not giving more power to the government and hoping that there will suddenly be a point at which they will miraculously turn from being conniving greed fueled scumbags into saints and the saviors of humanity, and instead focus on giving individual people the power and freedom to fix their own problems.

Your country is fucking retarded. The ultra rich get all the money and leave the scraps for the rest. And you are so deluded to imagine yourself belonging to the top dogs while desperately fighting for that little scrap.

>she feelsclike something that always fails wil somehow work if 'we just get it right this time'... iow, she feels and doesn't into logic.

And where did you learn that from? Some Hollywood movie with an overly simplistic "evil rich white men horde all the money" plot?

>socialism will bring prosperity to this country

I feel like you're a retarded faggot. That's what I feel like.

You sound like an entitled Google

>import millions of culturally clashing immigrants
>take away citizens guns
>redistribute the wealth with social programs and 65% death tax
>keep race baiting on CNN

They know exactly what they're doing, they want a race war. Violence is a lot more likely to happen when nobody has guns, people don't realize that the fact that a lot of people have guns are stopping niggers and muslims from rioting in rich neighborhoods.

Who is this bitch again?

>not knowing that the power elite will literally kill charismatic people leading the poor to keep them disenfranchised

First day on Cred Forums?

I will become one on socialism no doubt.

Soros and his compatriots keep the poor people rioting in the streets. The poor disenfranchise themselves that way, and no elites have to get their hands dirty.

No, you need less socialism not more, a full transition to pure capitalism would help the USA.

The poor won't all starve to death or die, they have always found a way to get by

You won't be fighting over the scraps because the state will own the scraps and hand them out (((evenly))) to the people.

Also the bucket of scraps will have a finite limit because anyone who trys to make too much will be punished and their scraps confiscated. As you will only ever receive the amount of scraps that the state has decided, no matter how much you produce, there will be no incentive to produce more than you are forced to. Thus once the original confiscated scraps are handed out there will never be an abundance of scraps to go around leading to an overall lack of scraps for everyone.

And since the state will own and control access to the scraps it will gain absolute power over the people which inevitably leads to tyranny over the people by the ruling elite class who control the state and thereby the scraps.

Op is the "simplest faggot"
You're not the first to come up with this concept, retardiot. It doesn't work. Now research why it never works. Next, become a competent and skeptical individual that realizes there is no full proof narrative like you'd like to believe.
P.s. kill yourself

all you will have with socialism is scraps you braindead fuckwit...

We need a world that is fractured into competing factions so the factions will continually strengthen themselves to beat the other factions.

What the fuck OP? You never read a history book?

If you really want to
>have colonies on other planets in no time
Nuke russia, seriously
Technological advances accelerate greatly at war and post war

the problem with socialism (and the reason that people fight about it) is people's lack of understanding of the X and Y theories of management.

Theory X states that people are lazy and need to be pushed. People will always settle in a rut if you let them.

Theory Y states that people are naturally motivated and creative and that too many rules and directions get in the way of their natural talents.

These are seen as "competing" theories of management, but the fact is that they're both true... about different types of people or about the same people in different contexts.

Capitalism is good for the people described by theory X, and socialism is good for the theory Y folks.

So here's the million dollar question: how many people are described by each? In a world full of lazy jerkopffs, we need capitalism to push them and make them starve unless they work. In a world full of bright, creative do-it-yourselfers, socialism would help them to shine.

>Guys i feel that socialism will bring prosperity to this country

Socialism isn't something you use to force social unity and cohesion.

It's something that happens when your society already has unity and cohesion.

Look at all the North Euro countries, Quebec, etc. They're all places with a high degree of homogeneity, social, cultural, economic cohesion. This makes social programs easy and natural to implement.

The US never had that. And the more time passes, the less it does (same with all those other countries. The more they keep importing various flavors of Africans and Middle eastern, the more they destroy their cohesion, the less their social programs will function).

>"We won't be fighting for scraps anymore"
>literally leads to fighting for scraps

wsj.com/articles/venezuelas-food-shortages-trigger-long-lines-hunger-and-looting-1440581400

inb4 "not a real socialist country" (yeah because your utopia is impossible you dumb fuck, welcome to the real world)

>I feel like socialism will bring prosperity to this country...

Stopped reading there. Just because you FEEL something might be the case, it does not make it so.

Kys. (Unless you are the semen demon. In which case you can man my kitchen.)

Capiche?

these are noble ideas but it never works in real life.

>people wouldn't have to stress about rent and healthcare

healthcare used to be one of the most affordable in the USA untill the gov intervened.

>America has none of those attributes anymore
do you have any evidence for this?

I'm not jewish but i like jews i have no problem with them

the tone of that comment changed quickly lol

what's wrong with open borders...meaning allowing non-criminal people in

what would happen is the wage for truck drivers would have to go up to attract truck drivers

>I want minimal government!
>BUT ENFORCe property rights mercilessly even if people starve or become homeless because of lack of food or home

>The poor won't all starve to death or die, they have always found a way to get by
yeah some will die and others will prostitute themselves and get exploited in horrible working conditions.

go back to tumblr

>no competition
>no evolution
no thanks

Perpetual poverty.

or, you know, we could all just get along and together colonize planets

How many people has capitalism killed?

so what is your opinion? which kind of people do you think most people are , genuinely asking

This answer amounts to "Because niggers"

why are you still using capiche it's not 1978

>Do you have any evidence for this?
Race riots ring a bell?

>Guys i feel that socialism will bring prosperity

Let me very succinct with you.

Socialism is ultimately based in the principle of Marxism, the basis of which is the idea that far too few people have control over too much of the wealth.

To remedy this problem, Marxism requires that the state be empowered with both the authority and power to seize the wealth of dissenting parties so that it can then be redistributed to others equitably. Of course, this leads to a new problem that no one ever seems to recognize. What Marxists fail to realize is that this "solution" simply just further centralizes all of the wealth into even fewer hands than it had been in previously under a political entity that has been given both the authority and and means necessary to not only seize the wealth, but also to prevent anyone from ever again attempting to "redistribute" it.

This is what happens when you fuck with the system of free and voluntary exchange.....

You go from a situation where too much of the wealth is controlled by too few people to one where ALL off the wealth is controlled by even FEWER people. Only now, they have the power of the state to back up this control.

Marxists are fucking morons, and always have been. They believe that people in their individual capacities are too selfish to do right by their fellow man and society through a system of liberty. Yet, through some great feat of mental acrobatics, they believe that these same selfish individuals, when brought together under a centralized power structure with the means of coercing enforcement, will somehow be more altruistic because..... reasons.

Marxism is a faith-based worldview, which is why they ALWAYS make terrible people, leaders, friends, etc.

>Too much of the wealth is controlled by too few!

>I know, let's set up a system where ALL of the wealth is controlled by even FEWER people!

FUCK MARXISM.

>so what is your opinion? which kind of people do you think most people are , genuinely asking
I think both people exist and we need both theories to deal with them as they appear. Worthless, lazy people need to be motivated and self-starting, ambitious people need to be supported. we cannot have a one-size-fits-all system.

The problem with the West today is.....

1. People finally figured out that they can vote for people who will give them money.

2. Politicians figured out that they can bribe people with their own money.

It was all downhill from there.