Hi pol

>Although you b8 me, this is a problem for welfare-based societies
This is a problem for technologically advanced societies, regardless of what form of government or welfare they have.

>Food, shelter and care are important motivators
And these are all obtained with a trivial amount of effort in advanced societies, regardless of whether one if on welfare or not.

>Motivation is important in achieving anything in life
And yet, you find plenty of people in modern societies who don't feel motivated to go to work or school. You don't find people in tribal societies who "don't feel motivated" to go out and hunt for food or build a shelter but we're living in a way that's so radically different from how we spent the vast majority of our evolutionary history.

Any "motivation" you feel for non-basic needs is just a surrogate urge - you have a innate drive to accomplish important tasks but society has already taken care of all the important tasks for you. Anything else is just trying to fill that void but it will never be as satisfying as the real thing.

I only get baited once a day

>medicare
>free food

WEW
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>had a baby and signed up for Medicare
>Medicare
Did you mean Medicaid?

so i guess you both are over age 65 too?

congrats on the pregnancy at such an old age

It's not like he's wrong.

OhPee you are setting your descendents up for being part of the future slave class, way to fuck your bloodline retard

>I am about to have my first kid
You mean your gf is about to have her first kid.

Chances are his hf probably has multiples already, if she decided to procreate with this loser

WIC pays for food. We also get more because I am white and she is black, meaning our biracial child qualifies for government subsudies

If OP isn't shitposting, then he is a leach. He is also owned by the government, which has made a lot of promises that it won't be able to keep. When the leaches outnumber what producers can produce, the system will collapse. When that happens, being vindictive will be beneficial to anybody who can produce necessities.

How is it bait? People have a innate drive for real accomplishment. Modern society has made all basic needs - the things that this drive evolved for and has been used for during millions of years of evolutionary history - utterly trivial to obtain. As a result, people have no real outlet for their urge to accomplish meaningful goals and suffer various stresses and mental disorders as a result.

You can easily see the negative effect welfare has on its recipients, who are given food and clothing and shelter for no effort, but do most people really make that much effort at their jobs? For virtually all of our evolutionary history, finding food and clothing and shelter was a full time job and for obvious reasons we evolved to be strongly driven to obtain these things.

Today, we can go to work, put in the minimum effort to not get fired while spending the day doing what we're told to do in the way we're told to do it and be given more than enough money to obtain all these basic needs. Is it any surprise that this isn't sufficient to fulfill our innate drives and that people suffer a variety of frustration, stress and mental disorders as a result?

Welfare's not the problem. Modern civilization is the problem.

Not baiting at all, I am24, owe like 125 k in student loans, make 18 k yearly and have no savings so I get all kinds of free shit.
We get great health care, and thanks to Obama care subsidies I pay about 8 yearly for my insurance. My gf and I aren't getting married because if we DiD the gov wouldn't pay for everythibg
I can see why people who pay taxes would be upset but Fuck them, I am gonna be poor the rest of my life so I guess they can afford it or not, I don't care

i dunno listen to charles vains speech about being comfortable from black sails.

>having a kid
>no job
>no money

Of course you wouldn't complain you lazy shithead

Whoops I am 34 not 24
Who cares? Welfare us obviously the future of mankind so I mean why act fancy
I dunno, I come from a stable 2 parent household all of my sister's are college graduates aithw families but I overturning spent my life smoking weed and playing video games so I don't have any thing lines up or any skills.
Welfare is fine for me, we can use the kid to ride benfits and my family is well off so between them and the gov we should be set
I don't really have any expectations for life aside from that.

The problem is that modern society is far too complex. Nobody can follow all of the rules and nobody understands modern supply chains.

Obamacare is in the process of repealing itself. The big insurance companies are finding that they're losing money by following it and are withdrawing from the exchanges. The signs that our welfare state is unsustainable are there for all to see, but your "paycheck" depends on you not understanding this, so you won't.

Man the only thing replacing Obama care is single payer. Millions of people now rely on those subsidies and if you end them people will howl for single payer which was the plan all along.
You carmaker that pull yourself up by your bootstraps shit and go Fuck yourself.

>Welfare us obviously the future of mankind so I mean why act fancy

Literally nigger talk.

kys my man

> What is guaranteed income
We are shifting into a utopian society like in Brace New world where we will have minimum incomes and pleasure houses to fill our day.

It's all going to come tumbling down, right on your head. But again, your "paycheck" depends on you not understanding that, so you won't.

I work for medicare and every old person thinks they are entitled too millions of dollars and have the right to go to mayo(flying across the nation).
65 years is more then enough time too plan for retirement, and learn countless skills.
Useless blobs dont need too exist.

I work for medicare and every old person thinks they are entitled too millions of dollars and have the right to go to mayo(flying across the nation).

65 years is more then enough time too plan for retirement, and learn countless skills.
Useless meatbags dont need too exist.

That's ok because it will bring down everyone else and I may be able to improve my situation I'm the chaos. The only reason I don't commit more crimes is fear of imprisonment so if the cops are neutered due to lack of funding I imagine crime would be less risky and woeth it.

Having kid with a gf and not a wife? Die degenerate.

If it gets that chaotic, and you or somebody like you tries to steal my shit, I'll just take care of business myself. No due process. You will have to contend with others like me, some who understand that it is better to work with the community, and some who don't give a fuck about that.

>I have no savings, no job skills
Why won't you kill yourself then

why are you having kids if you're fucking scum?
just kill yourself, low IQ degenerate
good people shouldn't be paying for you, pay for yourself
big government helps you because you're absolute shit

Hey guys my girlfriend is giving birth to her black ex's son so we signed up for medicare *insert the rest of the post*

I mean fine, my point is that if it is doomed I may as well ride the system and enjoy it until it collapses. I don't owe anyone anything

when things get bad, your kids will die, because they're weak and stupid like you
when nuclear winter start all people that are inferior like you will die in seconds
you're not ready to live in the real world, you are inferior

You are literaly South Afrika tier nigger.

You wouldn't and this is why a race war is the only hope for the human race.

That's a good point... you literally have no logical reason not to vote for leftist scum. I guess the logical conclusion is that burgers need to start giving subhumans like you helicopter rides over Mexican soil.

you shouldn't, but you should know that you're trading short term convenience for long term propserity

you're just wasting resources that your inferior kids will never have
the dysgenics world we live in are coming to an end, all maggots like you will die
your kids will die and the supperior ones will live, your genes are doomed

How can you feel you don't owe anyone anything? This is the sick dark skin mentality that white people can't even fathom.

No it doesn't

"Oh woe is me, this life has proven too difficult for me to even try so I will just lay down and be a cuck for the rest of my life. Wahhh I have to do stuff in life why is it so unfair?"

Holy fuck you're a lame duck. Go hang out on /R9K/ and gain some sympathy for being a estrogen-filled, magnesium lacking bag of fat.

If I was from Brazil I wouldn't be so fast to call for the eradication of "mixed inferior people"

Congratulations on being a nigger

I am white as snow. I owe my familyloyalty but I have no problem soaking America for every penny I can. I am not even remotely loyal to the nation and have no idea why I would be

Here's what you're not getting, you dipwad.

Government isn't paying for you Healthcare.
I'm paying for your healthcare.
Everyone who earns a paycheck is paying for your healthcare.

You're being cared for on my dime.
Taking money out of my wallet.
So that I can't afford my own health care.

How do you feel about your precious gubment?

This. There have always been "resets" in history.

Hard times breed strong people.
Strong people breed easy times.
Easy times breed weak people.
Weak people breed hard times.

They should have given you Plan B for free. It would have been a lot cheaper.

You are what's wrong with the US. Having a kid when you can't afford it, and now the rest of us have to foot the bill.

I feel grateful they used armed force and the threat of imprisonment to make sure citizens in need like me get what we need.
Thanks, big government for making people do the moral thing. Thanks for paying your taxes to feed my multiracial child

>My survival and the survival of my family depends on the government.
>Why is this wrong u guys?

We should harvest the electricity created by the founding fathers spinning in their graves, that shit could power both coasts.

>I am white and she is black
>our biracial child
Guys this is bait.

The founding fathers way if life is very outdated. No one wants to live that way or they would vote for it. People prefer socialist policies which is why they are consistent winners
Conservatism is basically losing in slow motion.

It is really not bait

yeah 60% of the white people left in your country want to live like this. So if you guys actually controlled your borders you guys would still live like this. Because democracy.

The democrats wanted to reinstate the idea of a political-elite, and to do that they needed people dependent on them for their survival. And those people came from Africa and Mexico. And wherever you came from.

Conservatism is losing because of demographics, not because of technology or the current year.

If you want socialism you should move to Europe, that way there still would be a free country left on this earth.

I'm white you maggot, I live in a good place, far from the inferior niggers that only live because of food stamps
You wasted resources in a uni, now you have lots of debt, that means that you're stupid
You don't understand money or value, you went to uni because of status and now you're a debt slave
You and your inferior kids will die, r-selected scum can't survive tough times
You have shit genes, your mind is not advanced enough to understand how money works, good luck maggot

Its also an error on your judgement to choose a woman who feels no shame exploiting the system in order to live for free. WHEN, not if, you split she will come after you for child support and she'll get it.

Thank God we imported this Mexicans I am white and I prefer the gov paying my bills .
Fuck conservatives, they would hand out billions to corporations. The democrats do too but at least they kick some money downstairs and Gove peie shit for their loyalty.
The repubs have never given me anything why vote for them and my own impoverishment?

Actually I don't have to pay the money back at all. Since I am poor I just get it deferred until I get a poverty declaration which will remit my debt to the US treasury.
Thanks Obama, that's more than any one from the GOO has ever done for me

>I am about to have my first kid and my gf
Stopped reading. Having a child out of wedlock is degenerate KYS and your whore and bastard child.

You voted big government, you voted to get resources from good people because you're shit
The supperior people are being robbed so you can reproduce your stupid low IQ maggot kids
Good luck, big government is not forever, you can't hide the fact that you're inferior forever, time will come and your genes will die

you should move to Europe, dude. You'll love it here.

for the rest, I hope to God that this is bait (and there is a pretty big chance). But even if it is, people actually think like this in your country.

And that is fucking sad. The endless mindset of adults living at home. And their parents are the government.

I'd those people were so smart why are they losing? Oh yea, they are just greedy and dont want to pay their part
Fuck them, if they don't like it Somalia has low taxes and they can Fuck off there.

Congrats on your first child, user

I have thought about claiming my black Gf and I are refugees from racial hate in America wanting to raise our baby free from discrimination. I wonder if it would fly.

>dont want to pay their part

and how are you different? You refuse to work for the survival of you or your kin. You are not doing your part.

In Germany it would work 100%. If not just try again but this time say you are both Syrian kids.

Because when WWIII starts the moochers and freeloaders will be first to go?

The government has no money
The only people who pay any real taxes are the private sector employees in the middle class and above

No government employee pays more in taxes than they make correct? They don't even pay for themselves much less anyone else.

So no- don't thank obama or the government - it's never their money

user, I need help. Someone has to do the giving as they are legally obligated and some need help, such as me. I will always be poor so I will always need lots of help

I don't speak German would that be an issue?

and when you get out of that mentality and be responsible for you own actions, you'll no longer need the government.

Change your mindset.

even better, that way you will get asylum faster.

pay their part?
Why should they use their money in maggots like you?
We're being outnumbered by maggots like you, but wait, desease and war will come, you and your stupid monkey kids will die. K-selected people will eat your flesh.
I can't wait for tough times to come, I will hunt shit like you and eat your meat.
You can't live by yourself, do you understand that? You are inferior and will die soon.

Nice attempt OP. Next time I would suggest flipping the races.

>free food
>free doctors
>no skills
>first kid
There is the problem

There is zero chance you are white. Romanian gypsys are absolutely not white fyi

I Mena even if that is true the damage people like me would do on our way out would cripple humanity.
There aren't enough resources left to rebuild up to where we are now so if say there was a major apocalypse the survivors would be forced into an agrarian existence for the rest of humanity.
No space travel or even I industrial advancement so if you ever want humanity to goto space I guess you better keep cutting those checks.

One of the dumbest messages I've ever seen.

No, K-selected people survived the ice age, we can survive everything, we're surviving machines.
We think about money everytime we do a decision, I get free uni or no uni, would never waste resources in status.
I love hunting, if things get tough I would hunt other humans, and eat them(not kidding).
We are ready for doom, we know what's going to happen.

if the government would seize to exist, your kind would die off in 1 generation. The people who never were dependant would continue business as usual.

>Getting government money
>In the form of national debt

Your baby will be sold to China

It is. You don't get more money for having a mixed race child.

White as can be. Can't wait for my biracial child to help smash European culture

Because being a degenerate will always effect you negatively in the end. Enjoy your fat fuck kid who becomes a tranny cuck.

Then why did you have children you fucking retarded nigger leech

It's true. There aren't enough rare earth minerals to bring us back up to our current level of advancement. If enough was destroyed you would lack the physical materials to rebuild which is something every poor person should know because having the ability to destroy him advancement t could be used a s a bargaining chip for more programs.

>no job
>has a baby

dont have a fucking kid if you cant afford it shit head

The US needs some sort of Medical Care for people who can not afford it.

I am voting Trump, and he's been an advocate of single payer health care in the past.

Also, even in Canada and other countries with socialized health care there ARE private clinics. This does not make private clinics disappear.

However, to quote the God Emperor him self...

"We can't have people dying in the street"

We need a solution to people dying from preventable problems, suffering and dying because they need basic health care, and also people who are suffering from mental illness on the streets.

This is all wholly unacceptable and Trump will stop it. Hillary will do what all politicians do, stuff their pockets with the people's money.

If you're really going to reproduce with a nigger female you're doomed
Kids get intelligence genes from the mother, you'll have a dumb little nigger.
You're also low test, what means that you can't protect your dumb nigger child.
You wasted your shit genes and your resources. I hope you're just LARPing.

no time stamp, you truly are a nigger

I have no option but public assistance. It costs 75 k 6to have a kid in America.
The people ITT are morons. Like I would give a Fuck about their taxes when my kid need a and ultrasound or a checkup.
I don't care how much you guys pay, I need th I vs I can't get otherwise so Fuck off and pay up.

>people actually think like this in your country.
it's the real redpill. YOU AND YOUR FAMILY is all that matters.

But of course NEETs don't like this

You're part of the problem. You can hide behind your open mouth yearning to suckle, but each rain drop never realizes their role in the flood. Perpetuate the cycle while praising it and claiming you couldn't control your ejaculate. Pretty worthless, probably would forget to breathe if it wasn't automatic.

Tax day is April15th.

>Begging your neighbors for food
>Frivolously having a kid

Well, we could just shoot you and your family.

Like the Nazis did to their "Mindless Feeders".

However we are not Nazis, and the US we should have the right to "life", "liberty" and the pursuit of property / happiness.

Allowing your family to die or suffer because you do not have cash on hand is denying you the right to life and happiness.

Clearly if all the rich people got together and decided to pay their taxes to a private military fund instead of to your health care fund, people like you would not be abel to defend yourself.

You are dependent on the people who are cursing.

If the people who you are cursing really hated you, you would be very dead.

So please appreciate America and all the rich businessmen who choose to pay taxes in the US instead of moving to a tax haven or funding paramilitary to murder you.

it's ironic a republican talking about welfare

So you now have to thank the Hardworking Democrat Man for your gibsmedat

You're LARPing,
But there are real people that act like this.
These people are dysgenic spawns that need abortion from society.
But there are surviving machines out there, when the right time come I'll hunt those people.
If there's no more resources I'll eat other people, I don't care.
That's why r-selected scum hate hunting, because you're prey.

>the birth ( which costs $75,000)

Have her give birth naturally at home for free m8

>implying i'm a republican

Nationalist view, you're a fucking walking fallacy generator, kill yourself.

kys

You don't have a girlfriend, stop lying on the internet for attention, you are pathetic.

>have govt salary.
>bitch about others getting govt money.

>where we will have minimum incomes

Who's going to pay for it?

I am not in any way Larping
Also is that shit you are saying is true it makes sense Corinth "weak" to band together and UAE force to force others to share.
Looks like yet again collectivism wins.

>no skills

I bet this Facebook doesn't even know how to clean a fish, set a snare trap, or build a shelter.

And y'all are telling them to have it naturally lol

>Which costs $75,000
How does it feel to fucking lie?

How about no because that's insane when the gov owes me benefits?

>I am about to have my first kid and my gf and I signed up for Medicare
Bullshit, she would have applied for Medicaid.

>owe's me benefits

Then why are you having a child?

So much this

>make minimum wage
>have child
>other taxpayers owe me now

Not including ultrasounds, doctor visits, nursing care, childcare classes etc
> The total bill for a Caesarean section, meanwhile, tops $50,000, according to Truven Health Analytics. The delivery alone costs an average $10,000 in the US, while a Caesarean delivery costs over $15,000, according to the International Federation of Health Plans

>125 k in student loans

You're a doctor?

>I HAVE A GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO FREE SHIT #BERNIE2016

I want a kid, I had great parents and I want a child. That's all the explanation I owe.

So why are you having a kid if you can't afford it

Then fine, have a child.

But why is coercing other taxpayers, using the power of the state, into paying for your shit okay?

No one gives birth in the street... before Obamacare, she would have been eligible for medicare too, being indigent and unmarried...
Medicare existed under republican presidents too, and Trump isn't taking that away... It's an irrelevant argument.

In 18 years you're kid is going to think
>My god, why did my father create me
>Why is my life so shit
>*rips meth pipe*

>i had great parents and i want a child

First off, your parents did a shit job with you, every single post you've made is mouth breathing stupidity.

Second, do you really think its a good idea to have a child and little to no means to support it on your own? Is that really providing for it.

>No savings, no job skills, minimum wage. "my family"

Maybe you should work on your priorities a bit.

Congratulations on completely failing at life

Apparently, the law agrees with me and in America if the state endorses it then it is no longer immoral.

>doesn't understand positive vs. negative liberties
>still spits his worthless seed into a cunt

You're the reason I hope this country collapses.

>if the state endorses it then it is no longer immoral.

Jesus wept.

I had fantastic parentse, married 37 years now raised 4 kids all of my sisters are married with kids a d doing great
I am just lazy and love weed and hate work so I have skated by. In the plus side my gf has me going back to church with my family, which is nice even if religion is a load of shit

>fantastic parents
>taught that being a leech is okay

No, I made that decision on my own when I realized it was better than busting my ass

jesus christ you're a mess. best of luck bud. you're going to need it.

>when I realized it was better than busting my ass
If this isn't bait and this is what you really believe, then I pity the life your child will live.

Thanks, she is on bed rest so we got approved for TANF yesterday which is about 700 per month

You're weak, you're pathetic.
Look at you: I have no money because I'm dumb so I need the government to rob non-shit people so I can spawn nigger low IQ kids.
Your genes are bad and you know that.
The time will come, I'll eat the flesh of inferiors like you.

The economy will collapse and the free shit won't come.
War will come, and maybe we will have a nuclear winter(it's inevitable, but maybe not in the next 100 years).
Your genes will die, the first one to die, the r-selected scum that survive winter will be hunted and eaten by real men like me.
Your women would prefer be raped by real men than live with you.
Pray for the police to kill your nigger children, I would no just shoot to kill, I would torture before eating.

>Having a kid is more than student loans for out of state Ivy League kids
I call complete bullshit
I didn't have to spend my life's savings and more on my son

you sound like an edgy couch surfer with nothing else to do, get help.

Okay, I'm triggered.
You're a pretty despicable person if you feel entitled enough that you think that other people should subsidize your drug habit and shitty life decisions.
Out of curiosity what do you do for a living?

If you knew how normal I look in public you would be like "what?"
No, people like me are everywhere, we're fed up.
Just wait to shit to hit the fan, you'll end up noticing that some people around you think like me

You need more of your type in this country.

*We need, I meant. Or stay in yours and spread the message.

>You shouldn't vote for Hillary
Fixed that for you fampai.

Xbox live tech support

>owe like 125 k in student loans
>decides having a kid (while not being married) would be a good idea
You don't deserve shit for making such a retarded decision

i hope your kid is born a nigger

What OP is really saying if he isn't baiting is
>I'm a racemixing piece of shit that has accomplished nothing in life and excepts the government to pay for his kid that he shouldn't have had

In the case that this isn't elaborate bait, I highly recommend you pick up a trade skill my dude. You're not gonna be able to stay afloat doing tech support for microshaft when the steady drip of daddy govt's money stops and you have 3 mouths to feed. Plus if you don't show some ambition you can enjoy eventually getting cucked. Cannabis is p nice but it definitely has the potential of sapping your initiative.

the worst humans alive

You must be a Google for making such shitty life decisions.

Well you might have a problem when big government decides to take custody of your children because you neglected your duties as a parent unable to provide even the basest of necessities. There are plenty of jobs out there that require little to no skill, sure they fucking blow, but they pay the bills.

>the birth ( which costs $75,000)
What the fuck. Having a kid is more expensive than a Tesla

>Why would I oppose big government when they are helping my family? I have no savings, no job skills and make 400 per week, no way I could afford it otherwise
They aren't "helping your family" - They're stealing other peoples' money and giving it to you. Just because you suck at life doesn't mean the rest of the world owes you something.

Any decent person would have an extra $30,000 (at least) in the bank before having a child, to make sure their child can have a nice life. You probably also are a strong believer in forced vaccination, circumcision, spanking, anti-breast feeding, etc. You suck, you have the wrong opinions on everything, you're incompetent, you're immoral, you shouldn't have had a child, and just because you did doesn't mean the rest of the world has to take care of it.

You and your cunt gf should be sterilized and your child forcibly aborted. If you cannot provide for your own without government assistance, you shouldn't have a child. You are the sole reason for the fall of western culture. Kys. I hope your child is born with downs so you can sap even more money to pay for your potato grade leech.

>forced vacs
So you are anti science then

>circ
Who cares

>spanking
Part of good parenting. Spanking =/= smackdown retard

>anti breasts
Formulas are better in convenience and nutrition anyways if you relying on welfare in the first place