So does PUA actually work or is it all a scam?

So does PUA actually work or is it all a scam?

How can someone like pic related (his name is 'matador', literally bed 1000's of women if it's all just fake?

Look at the guy dude, he doesn't need any special system to pick up chicks, they just look at him and they're on board.

hes literally a home depot mexican

Its not hard to pick up drunk chicks, nor do you need and special "skills". There have LITERALLY been times when I was standing in line to get into the club and girls have gone up to me and outright asked if I wanted to fuck them.

I'm just an average build. Not fat or skinny but don't work out. Relatively handsome face.

I'm pretty sure anyone could bed 1000 women if they wanted to, but watch out for STDs dude.

he's literally better looking than you could ever possibly be. As a non-autistic person I can recognize that this "tall, dark and handsome" guy looks exactly like what chicks fantasize about.

Also, those are some ugly girls.

I am actually pretty damn good looking but whatever you say

I already got Chlamydia once before. I try to wear a johnny now every time but sometimes after a night at the club you just can't be fucked opening one up and putting it on your dick. Plus it makes me soft a lot of the time.

what the fuck is wrong with that broad on the left?

no the only difference is that they actually approach women in massive numbers and dont care

Everyone can do it. You just need the balls and the no fucks given attitude first.

Talk to 1000 Girls. You will fuck 10-20.

This. Clubs and bars are crawling with drunk women suffering from a recent breakup that will fuck anything that looks half way decent because their ego is hurt/ they need attention.

I think he's average looking. Not good looking but not hideous either.

Sharpie syndrome, happens from using a sharpie to stimulate the anus. Chemicals leak out and effect your facial muscles. Google it.

>people read books and attend classes on how to pick up chicks when all you need to know is "be a douchebag"

lol

Exactly, the real secret is that it's all about your looks. Everyone says act confident, nope, if you're not confident but look like a male model girls find it endearing, if you're shy, girls think it's cute. In fact if you're an incredibly good looking guy and act shy and unconfident that's like kryptonite to girls cause then they think you're not a player and will commit to them.

>what the fuck is wrong with that broad on the left?

Lipodystrophy.

He's not even handsome though he's painfully average.

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average?

my old roommate would waittill about 1am to walk downtown and find girls that needed "help" worked pretty much every time. girls are dumb. it's not nice to take advantage of them.

if you pay two models to hang on your arm at some random club and get a pro photographer to snap some smug pics of your streetshitting face,

you can probably convince alot of betas about anything.

Perception is reality.

what's more is that you need to avoid like other PUA who want to make you dependent on them for confidence. You really do need wing men to play the beta nurse or something.

They use psychology to appear as "high value" - the kind of guy that women would like to have as a partner. Then, they use more psychological blind-spots, to get the trust of their next victim, get them on a "high" of feeling good, and then bed her.

To cut it short - they con women to sleep with them.
Reading one a two of their books, is actually a good idea - if only that you don't go for the obvious pitfalls.

So what they peddle is actually based on sound psychiatry/science then?

learn how to be a real person pathetic faggots

pua and all this manosphere woman hating stuff is garbage. they figure out one simple truth (feminism is stupid) then at like they are experts on le scary evil women. in reality they're all a bunch of spergs.

It works.

The only thing you need to know about it, is that the more you treat women as bitches, the more they'll want to ride your cock.

If you unironically set out to pick up a woman at a club you have already failed at life

Depends largely on which school you follow. Mystery Method is more formulaic, whereas RSD is more inner game and becoming the kind of guy who attracts girls. I used to follow RSD for years and I had a lot of success. The key is to realize that there's no magic pill or mechanical set of words that will make you successful.

Honestly, looking back, the best thing you can probably do is get a job in sales while studying PUA. The fundamentals of sales and PUA are identical.

more like not hate yourself.

>this entire thread
I'm horribly autistic to the point i keep my mouth shut 90% of the time a chick talks to me because i'm afraid i might say something incredibly retarded or start ranting about jews and socialism.
But i'm insanely hot, i lift, i'm tall and i've got money, which means one way or one another i'm going to get laid with 8/10 chicks by doing nothing but standing in a corner like a cheap whore waiting to get picked up.

And this comes from a guy who has pulled out every kind of autistic bullshit, including giving money to a girl i had just sex with (we were kinda dating). It was her bday, had no idea what to buy her, so i just gave her a stash of 50 euros and told her to buy herself something nice. I mean, it was in good heart but the timing was just...bad

It works. Kinda jades you though.
I use to be really into, banged a bunch of taken girls.

Now I'm married and I'm a nervous wreck all the time because I know women are just terrible and I'm waiting for Karma to show me what's up.

Was about to defend, but it really is all it is. PUA is nothing more than psychology, it's very much like being a salesman, except you're selling yourself rather than some other guy's product. Though "con" is a strong word, girls appreciate someone who knows how to treat them.

Love and the human mind are nothing more than the reaction of chemicals, free will is an illusion.
That being said, PUA doesn't mean you can bed ANY woman, all it does is strengthen any bonds or feelings you might have, since it's mother nature that provides attraction. Even the "Matador" couldn't steal/bed a faithful recently married wife; after a big fight... well that's another matter.

>2016
>still thinks women go to bars to pick up a library book
They all want to fuck. They are there to fuck. Get in through your fucking head. For every braindead frat boy with a degree in Pop Culture there is a retarded ass whore with a degree in Gender Studies looking to get laid.

>Depends largely on which school you follow
Look at this dumb fuck

This is also true. I spend a long time figuring pick up out, and then eventually went that route.

Although, spending 3 years acting like an asshole, does turn you into an actual asshole.

You are wrong. My cousin is waaaay better looking than me, couldn't seduce a fleshlight. He's a huge cuck. Wifes fat girls, knocks em up, gets cheated on. It's all his confidence, he's really good looking but no self esteem.

There are fundamental differences between the schools of thought within PUA.

victim... nah. women only respond to this type of behavior, the victims are the 80% of men whom spend most of their lives alone while women are out having 3somes every weekend

More importantly look at the women, they are just average in the face

>except you're selling yourself rather than some other guy's product
lol.

archetypal autism from someone who has never been with a woman. if you feel the need to "sell yourself", you've lost.

Real PUA is about making a positive influence on women and letting them influence you as well. "PUAs" like Roosh V just have their head up their ass.

Remember that some places have more game than others, any culturally Southern Europe place has more game than others. It's sad you're this ignorant/repelled by the idea of using proven human psychology to become a better person.

It's like saying there's no such thing as different democratic systems. Saying all democracies are the same just highlights ignorance.

This... it's purely a numbers game at first.

Two things happen from actually putting that into practice though.

1) as you approach more and more you become less self-conscious in a nervous (the biggest way to put off women) way and more self conscious in a confident way... ie. internalizing what "works"

2) obviously more experience makes you better at it and you simply do it reflexively, which in turn builds into more confidence and thereby makes you more attractive

it's a self perpetuating system.

You don't need their lessons or gimicks though... just go hit on EVERY chick that you'd remotely want to fuck and eventually you'll be a pro. Most dudes are wimpy fags that cant take rejection though because daddy wasn't there and mommy didn't care, so they pretend it;s a "lifestyle choice" and that they are heroes for going "MGTOW" (which they actually aren't doing)

They both lead to virginity and getting scammed while being in denial. At best landing some drunk obese walking bioweapon filled with unnamed STDs in some skanky club.

Get me in a club with the best of your gurus and their teaching for handicapped kids like you and you'll see what happens.
Spoiler: chicks will flock to the hottest, richest motherfucker in the area. That would be me. Regardless of how much i'm gonna ask them what they think about Planescape Torment, yours truly is going to get laid way more than your scam artists