Donald Trump is a piece of shit

>Source: I'm a liar

>token opposition to gay marriage

nice shilling

Aside from picking the worst possible Supreme Court justice to praise and promise to pack the courts with

and condemning the court's decision

and promising to do everything possible to pack the courts with bigoted irrational Catholics

and assembling a freak show of right-wing anti-gay asshats

and picking Pence, with his shit-tier record on civil rights

Yeah, all of that means he'll be "much better" than someone who didn't do that.

Quit shilling and just admit that you don't care that Trump is a fraud.

>Trump To Join Rubio At Closed-Door Anti-Gay Event In Orlando

>GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump and Florida Senator Marco Rubio (R) are set to headline an anti-LGBT religious conference this Thursday in Orlando on the two-month anniversary of the Pulse nightclub attack, reports the Christian Broadcasting Network.

>Trump and Rubio will be speaking to hundreds of pastors in a private closed-door event sponsored by the American Renewal Project. The event will feature some of the country’s most vehement anti-LGBT activists, including David Barton, Bill Federer, Ken Graves and Mat Staver.

>Lane warned that “homosexuals praying at the Inauguration” in 2012 would cause “car bombs in Los Angeles, Washington D.C. and Des Moines, Iowa” as a sign of God’s judgment and that the “pagan onslaught” of the LGBT rights movement will lead to the destruction of America

>Homosexual desire and marriage is unnatural and — more so — is a symptom of advanced cultural decay and precursor to the collapse of the Republican Party and the nation…,” Lane warns. “The mark of a decadent society is the exaltation and normalization of sin — which leads to the death.”

>In July, Trump endorsed North Carolina’s anti-T bill, after previously claiming he didn't have a problem with people using whatever bathroom they felt they needed to use.

>Trump selected Indiana Gov. Mike Pence to be his running mate, a man with a horrendous record on LGBT rights issues. Last year, Pence signed into law the Religious Freedom Restoration Act that allowed businesses and individuals in Indiana to deny services to LGBT people under the guise of “religious freedom,” and shielded them from potential lawsuits.

>major corporations threatened to boycott. Pence argued that money from the Ryan White Program should be given to anti-gay conversion businesses

He totally abandoned his position from the primaries. He has stabbed us in the back and it won't be forgotten.

fuck fucking trump and fuck white people

You sound like a sad little man. The supreme court will not belong to the left, deal with it.

ad hom and vapid rhetoric

Reality is that the constitution already mandates same-sex marriage.

The 1st amendment bans theocratic law. Religion is the only basis for anti-gay law now that we have had 60 years of scientific evidence that homosexuality isn't a problem.

The 14th amendment bans states from turning rights into special privileges for certain groups.

It is sad, certainly, to see Trump expose himself as a con artist instead of someone who is capable of being an independent thinker. He sold himself as the latter but is showing his true colors as the former.

One of Trump's new advisors:

youtube.com/watch?v=7UY5oCdvC7A

Gays need to kill themselves desu

Maybe we will after we see you demonstrating how it's done on Youtube.

>Anybody who disagrees with me and isn't the norm is a liar
>#Gaysfortrump never existed

Stay mad bud. I bet you're a manlet bifag who only fucks """""""""bears""""""".

Sage

But marriage self-evidently is not a right

>But marriage self-evidently is not a right

Wrong.

Science has proven that the pair bond is the strongest form of human intimate relationship.

And, humans innately do things like hold hands in public to demonstrate that they're in a solid pair bond.

What's tricky is that humans are not naturally monogamous. That's what makes marriage such a difficult issue.

>#Gaysfortrump never existed

They probably did exist, back when he was promising to be "much better than Hillary" for us.

Then he did a 180 and stabbed us in the back.

Marriage entails tax benefits, i.e. it depends on the contributions of other people to maintain. Ergo, not a right.

That's an utterly broken argument.

Tax benefits and things of that sort are tacked-on. They are not in any way requirements for the legal establishment of marriage.

So get rid of them, then we'll talk.
Then we can start discussing the blatant illegality and immorality of the 14th amendment.

You can't whinge about the 14th all you like (without a shred of substance to prop up your claims) but you're still neglecting the 1st.

The 1st amendment prohibits theocratic law. The only basis for anti-gay law is religious.

checkmate

(ib4 "but but but... the evidence isn't strong... in fact the Vatican's psychologists said gays are bad people!")

Why do you assume opposition to gay marriage can only be religious?

No he fucking didn't. He's still much better for us than Hillary.

What's better?
Possibly giving up the right to marry the same sex?
Or giving up the country and giving it to someone who willfully accepts money from countries that throw gays off the roof, etc.?

Stop self-bumping your own thread, CTR.

It's not an assumption. It's a fact.

The only "credible" anti-gay politics are based on religion. That is in quotes because religion is based on the fallacy of "it's true because I believe it's true — faith".

Science has, ever since the first correctly-done research was published in the 50s, found nothing besides the fact that homosexuality is not a mental illness or a problem.

The actual problem is irrational anti-gay bias.

Ultimately, therefore, even crass political opportunism, in terms of anti-gay biased politicking, is irrational in nature.

I'm curious, what's your opinion on dropping the T?
I bet you still want to keep them, don't you?

The purpose of marriage tax incentives (the only reason to make it a legal institution) are intended to encourage new families. Gays don't breed. Checkmate.

>I'm curious, what's your opinion on dropping the T?

Trans people should have civil rights but they're not gay. In fact, they have more in common with heteros.

Gay people love their sex. They, therefore, love the sex of their bodies. That's the opposite of trans who are much more like heteros in that regard.

Trans get lumped into the gay rights issue because they're hard to place elsewhere and because people falsely conflate gender-crossing behaviors with homosexuality, when in fact crossdressing can be a behavior of heteros at well.

>Every day that goes by has him taking a 180 degree turn
>doesn't know the difference between flipflopping and taking both sides of a position

>The purpose of marriage tax incentives (the only reason to make it a legal institution) are intended to encourage new families. Gays don't breed. Checkmate.

False claims.

1) Reinforcing the pair bond with legal structure is important to help those bonds remain in place. This is not just to get people to breed but also to help them remain in long-term relationships.

2) Tax incentives, according to your claims, would only be given to couples who have children. That's not how it works, though, is it?

3) Plenty of gay people have kids, especially in places with full marriage and adoption equality.

weak response, bro

I thought getting stabbed from behind was the entire point of you throwing parades.

So is that a yes or a no on dropping them?

>Gay people love their sex.
So why do you WANT a legal institution of marriage? Gay rights was never about marriage. Now that we have the rights to fuck each other and be as fucking disgusting as we want, the lobby (and people like you) want to legalize gay marriage because there's nothing else to complain about.

>Trans people should have civil rights but they're not gay.
Civil rights like how? They should have the right to cut off their cock and pretend like they're a woman and freely go to women's bathrooms with cis women? It's disgusting.

Trannies should be offered classes and shit to prevent their mental illness.
"TRANSPHOBIA!" I don't care. They are mentally ill. There is a small, small percentage of trans people that I would actually be ok with, and even then, just barely.

Kek

Ask the Irish.

Apparently they like to throw parades for some dude called Patrick.

Also, I remember being taken, as a child, to a bicentennial parade.

I guess parades are awful, though. Maybe I should blame that parade for making me a horrible person.

>Gay rights was never about marriage.

quit shitposting

especially when pretending to be gay even though you clearly are not

either you believe in freedom of association

or you don't

you mean red herrings trumping the presented issues

>Even when pretending to be gay when you clearly are not.
>IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME YOU ARE A LIAR

I didn't want to have to do this. Pic related.

>The only basis for anti-gay law is religious.
he JUST listed the tax subsidy of rearing your own genetic fruit, something gays cannot do

>Plenty of gay people have kids, especially in places with full marriage and adoption equality.
but it took infinitely more time and energy to do so than a regular hetero couple

straining our tax funded infrastructure

weak arguments bro

regardless all the gay people I talked to are voting for trump

amd to tell you the truth you almost made me switch back to hillary

but after I read a website called wikileaks.com

there is really no sane argument to vote for hillary

go trump!

pastebin.com/XuJpPFni

no, I mean fucking freedom of association

forcing others to associate with you requires coercion

fuck the fuck off

We owe no debt to the MIddle East to delouse it of its vermin

Mark my words, "we have to fight ISIS" Donald keeps repeating is NOT TRUE.

WE do NOT have to destroy ISIS, we only have to contain them and degrade them. Destroying requires a WHOLE OTHER LEVEL of commitment....that means boots on the ground again protecting ISRAEL from ISIS, which is not our job.

thezog.info/who-controls-donald-trump/

youtube.com/watch?v=TvI_TLZ6Wuc

youtube.com/watch?v=ktX4viox8zY

youtube.com/watch?v=ndRj2NtsmvM

youtube.com/watch?v=RymaodaYc0E

youtube.com/watch?v=cja6N-KGYPY

youtube.com/watch?v=xUQv3iv9fqk

thezog.info/list-summaries/

There are many ways to prevent ISIS from harming America.

Many ways that dont include boots on the ground or defending Israel.

Should I show you a map?

There is no reason ISIS in the ME threatens the USA.

LOOK AT A MAP.

We keep our borders and homeland security strong to filter out terrorists.

Thats all we NEED to do.

All we NEED to do is stop inflow into the US.

We do not NEED to destroy anything in the ME.

this tax meme is the weakest anti-gay argument I've seen

it's worse than the stuff that's published in the Weekly World News

i'm not one of those that throws this out casually but you really should consider suicide

Daily reminder that CTR is just freaking out because the latest email dump from Friday night (shocker) shows Obama used the Pseudonym "Silk Spectre" to communicate on Clintons private email server after telling CBS he had no idea it existed. Don't let them slide this

Will it be cash?

>Homosexual desire and marriage is unnatural and — more so — is a symptom of advanced cultural decay and precursor to the collapse of the Republican Party and the nation…,” Lane warns. “The mark of a decadent society is the exaltation and normalization of sin — which leads to the death.”

This almost reads as bait, but the sad part is that these delusional christcucks actually believe this.

So are you going to respond to the rest of my argument or are you just upset now that I've proved I'm actually gay

This is honestly fucking hilarious
Sage

>these delusional christcucks actually believe this

Or they use it to sell their businesses, like "conversion therapy".

youtube.com/watch?v=_c0CJWc1P_E

Fuck poz pigs

>actual pron

We're all positive that Trump is a fraud.

It's official - the CTR isn't replying to my arguments now that I've proved I'm not a shitposter!

Go back to where you came from, bugchaser
I'm out, has been fun

you're lucky I didn't show my "pr0n" folder instead of my irl pron folder

sage

>people at the top in FDRs time paid 95%
>no mention of loopholes everywhere

that comic makes you look even worse than you did before

that was easy

what about the website wikileaks.com?

OP is a faggot

Obvious desu

Sage

What the hell do you have to lose?

>Or they use it to sell their businesses, like "conversion therapy".

Of course that's what it all is.

It's a big business scheme.

Same thing with patent medicine (supplements).

Guess who made billions peddling those?

Mitt Romney's financial advisor Van der Sloot.

Whats wrong with the thumbnails for some of those files?

Truly this election will be the test of how gullible Americans are.

I mean, I understand wanting someone *like* trump, and I understand being a racist and all that. But the guy is just a self-promoter, it's hard to believe he's serious about anything he says.

Unless you're a gullible fuck, which a lot of people are desu

That's just shameful. Bob Byrd was a lion of the Senate; a lot of people his age had blots on their past from the civil rights era. Let's not be shallow.

Clinton is, too.

The difference for gays like me, though, is that she hasn't gone to the same lengths Trump has in endorsing anti-gay politics.

She also didn't claim to be vastly better than the competition for gay rights.

I think Clinton is a wretched candidate but Trump has now shown he can be significantly worse.

What fucking rights do you faggots want that you dont already have now
Genuinely curious

I think he's more worried about losing rights or being discriminated against rather than gaining rights.

I guess you missed the entire point of this thread.

Like how Trump is promising to pack the Supreme Court with Scalias who will overturn the marriage equality ruling and perhaps even Lawrence v. Texas.

buy a clue

As for the current situation, the gratuitously anti-gay George W. Bush ban on sperm donation needs to go.

Sexual orientation should be a protected class like religious choice is. Otherwise, get rid of religion as a protected class.

But Hillary wants to bring in Muslim refugees, and last I checked they love throwing gays off rooftops. How is that better?

It will take more than some refugees to get to the level of what Trump is promoting right now.

Nice negative campaign there, CTR shill.

Too bad everything you say is always applicable to Shillary with evidence, but you're not worth my time.

>Too bad everything you say is always applicable to Shillary

Nope.

Trump has gone well past her in promoting anti-gay politics.

He has also shown a far larger lack of character due to the hugeness of the 180 in such a short span of time.

tu quoque fallacy fail

>Nice negative campaign there

Trump's negative campaigning against us is the problem

after lying for months, claiming he'd be our friend

Give more examples of Trump flip flopping.

>Truly this election will be the test of how gullible Americans are.

The best test of that was Gramm Leach Bliley.

Every politician who voted for that should have been tarred, feathered, and kicked off the island.

youtube.com/watch?v=nEkL6B5MzYw

Friendly reminder that Treasure Island Media is the only acceptable gay porn to have on your pc or anywhere else.

If you're an old man with poor taste.

I'm surprised you don't prefer the drugged-out whore with six penises in her at once (two in mouth, two in anus, two in vagina) — with ATM.

...

nice shitty meme libcuck shill

empty post is empty

Never call me old ever again.

I know your flag.

You post anti-gay shit.

CTR is still paying you guys?

HI'll are had a long history of anti gay sentiment. She has only recently changed her views because she is pandering and took so much heat from other democrats. She dosn't give a shit about gay rights.

Hillary is so racist.

>shitlib shit meme machine on a roll.

You're right. Hillary is wretched. She won't do anything for gay rights unless she is paid to do it. The problem os, anti gay lobyists have money too. Who knows what she will do, she is so greedy.

No link faggot.

You know how to use Google, asshat

towleroad.com/2016/08/donald-trump-lgbt-3/

We already know where Trump stands.

He just stabbed us in the back as hard as he could, after stabbing us in the back with the choice of Pence.

tu quoque fail

also:

thegailygrind.com/2016/08/09/trump-to-join-rubio-at-closed-door-anti-gay-event-in-orlando-on-2-month-anniversary-of-pulse-attack/

washingtonblade.com/2016/09/22/santorum-gets-top-billing-trumps-catholic-advisory-group/

Let me know when she has stooped to Trump's current level when it comes to this.

I'm not sure how much further he can go but I'm sure he and his people will find a way.