Catholicism or Orthodoxy/pol/?

Catholicism or Orthodoxy/pol/?

I see the appeal of both, but am unable to choose. To be honest, one thing holding me back from Orthodoxy is that I don't really see the point of fasting.

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Why pick either

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From an agnostic/deist perspective, Catholicism. Catholicism and "magisterial Protestantism" have contributed far more than Orthodoxy to the arts, sciences, philosophy, etc. Outside of Russia (which is more Western than they wish to admit), the only unique thing Orthodoxy has offered to the world is getting cucked by Islam and acting snooty to the superior Western nations they immigrated to.

>I don't really see the point of fasting
Convert to Pravoslavie, then. It's the same as Orthodoxy, but you are allowed to safely ignore whatever parts of it you don't like.

It's almost the exact same shit except one actually dunks babies like the Bible says so. You can barely stick a credit card between Catholicism and Orthodoxy. Man up and be a fire-breathing Baptist that actually reads the Bible.

After you finish sucking your priests cawk just ask him what tribe you belong to.

>Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God
Priests here are still on the armored Mercedes level. Gotta level up.

Join orthodoxy senpai

Islam

Thats a bit harder

Catholicism is better.
Those orthodox priests with big beards look like afghans and they have a stoner accent.

Because I'd like to join a traditional type of Christianity.

I'm Orthodox

But Catholicism is much better you go to purgatory and your loved ones pray for you to go to heaven.

While here it's instant hell ... or struggle hard for heaven.

Protestant too degenerate for allowing shitloads of divorce

Catholicism is blasphemy bro.
>yur naht smart enuff to read this buk
>we will do it for you, trust us. God wrote this book so only us, "trained" priests can understand it
>don't worry, just pray to your patron dem- I mean saint about it

Ismaili shia Islam for sure all day dude.

Catholic = Poland

Orthodoxy = brrrrrrrrrrrr...

Well, well, well, I think we know the answer

Mormonism

The only correct answer is /his/

Divorce is sometimes good for correcting the mistake of choosing the wrong mate.

Where is purgatory in the bible?

theres an indirect notion to purgatory in orthodoxy too Radu
dont worry :)

and praying for dead is our thing too you know...

the one and only roman catholic church
every diversion is considered by me as escapism and avoidance of issues that could be easyly solved if all of us were united as a single holly church

>I don't really see the point of fasting.
Not up to you faggot.

Sedevacantism though.

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Catholism is cucked, even protestants are better. Go Orthodox.
>Pic related
This is who the Catholics look up to.

Say the goy who worships patron saints, confesses to a priest, believes in purgatory, etc when none of that shit is biblical

>Ever even considering Orthodoxy

Romanians are really cucked when it comes to worshiping saints, they kiss bones and dead bodies believed to belong to dead saints.

>I don't really see the point of fasting.
Nigga fasting is the OG spiritual discipline.
(Go Adventism. I don't agree with everything they do but they're among the most anti-globalist anti-degeneracy chuches out there).

Catholics too btw

And the early christians and Jews of NT period

It isn't really it was postured from the position

>Jesus came to give everlasting life
> be baptized, he says John 3
> eat and drink of his flesh and blood, he says John 6
> maintaining yourself good spiritual hygiene within the body of Christ, he says

Otherwise you don't go directly to heaven (sainthood) when you die well Purgatory is that state Protestants talk about you being asleep until Christ's judgement. The Catholic church calls this state purgatory if the Saints are being trade for on behalf of other saints (Earthly or heavenly). The Orthodox church has no real name for such a state but they have the same practice.

Leo Taxil wrote even worse thing about Catholics, so don't get excited too early, pedro

This, based Luther had the right idea.

>Leo Taxil

>Assuming that he didn't had access to vatican archives

>Lying Mason hellbent on tarnishing the churches reputation
>Later converted to catholicism

Note that the Catholic Church has entered into the post Vatican II phase, they are no longer valid. Modern Catholicism is entirely too inundated with masonry to be good for the soul. If you go to a church where the priest is facing the congregation for Eucharist, you are not in a Church. You are in a den of Masons.

If you are to be a Catholic, go for the Eastern Rite. The Novus Ordo mass is satanism.

Catholicism
Pope is literally St. Peter, he's holy and undisputed

Orthodoxy
We all know Pope is not St. Peter and this is bollocks, he's another guy leading his church.


Pick wisely

obligatory

>converted to catholicism
>got access to Vatican archives to write criticisms of popes

orthodox priests remind me of jews for some reason. there is something asiatic and uneuropean about it.

Neither


Calvinism is the way to go

beards

But at least catholic societies don't treat religion as a component of the national identity, they treat religion as a personal matter (which is the best definition of religion).

>I admit we're all fools to believe such nonsense but ....

every time

>beards
>corruption
>no interest in science and arts.

>faggy jesus worship
g-goys, it's ok - jesus isn't a jew, honest - he's a hebraic israelit judaen shitskin!

Catholicism is fucking based

Shoo r/atheist, /pol is a Christian clay

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sucky sucky

II Maccabees, but the Judeo-Protestants removed it from the bible. Maccabees makes mention of the army of Judas, who were not in a state of true grace when they died, being prayed for posthumously in reparation for their sin.

Atheism you dumb fucking leaf.

>not believing the dirty kike christ makes you an atheist
faggot christ logic everyone

wew that edge

Orthodox of course

While the fact, that only churches with apostolic succession and real presence of Christ in Eucharist have some degree of Truth, question remains who have THE Truth. We can easily drop churches exocomunicated by Ecumenical Councils so evrything boils down to Catholicism and Orthodoxy. And here is the thing. TWO fucking times Orthodoxies on ecumenical councils AFTER the Schism accepted that Catholics are right. Councils were fully ecumenical, with representation of orthodox church. Filoque was accpted, prugatory was accpted, primacy of Peter was accpted, evrything was accpted! And just after council ended and Catholics were more than happy that Great Schism is finally over Orthodoxies sperged out and rebeld agains autority of Council. And they do it twice. Third time Polish Church did it regionaly, for Orthodxies in its borders (and they did it because Orthodoxies ask them for it), rest of Orthodx Chruch started to kill unitses that didn't convert back to Orthodox. So yeah, we are right, they know we are right and they are butthurt about it.

Also
>being that cucked to accept Sultan as a legitimate Roman Emperor

>not understanding jew-worship is for cucks

I'm ok with this

>Even though my ancestors worked hard to drive Pagan shits back to Scandinavia, I still dress up like a dog and fuck my boyfriend in the name of Thor Odinsson
Wew.

Lutheranism. All the Catholicism, none of the pope's faggy communist shit. I'd be Catholic if I got to crusade once in a while.

>But at least catholic societies don't treat religion as a component of the national identity

This is what orthodoxs actually believe

Lutheranism was pushed to give German Princes more secular power and authority, and the rise of Protestantism caused the cancellation of a crusade against Turkey. Lutheranism is Satanic.

> "Tais is the faith of the fathers ... Peter has spoken thus through Leo ..."
t. Council of Chalcedon

the Bible whose books were decided by those same people who don't 'dunk' to baptize

nah, my jesus ain't no foot fetish autist.

Byzantine Catholicism

the best of Catholicism without the modernist bullshit

>The person who's most qualified to select a leader of the Church is a secular authority, such as a Sultan, Emperor or Party Chairman
t. Orthodoxy

Pope loves gays communism and refugees .based


>pope is literally a satanic puppet of Jews

Open your eyes. Repent

Orthodoxy walked out when asked to become more "modern" like the (((Catholics)))


Cuk (((Catholics))) will never crusade because that's NON-INCLUSIVENE

Lutheranism wouldn't have happened if the catholics just stopped selling indulgences. Praying to a man in Rome is heretical.

You tell me.

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If you can't tell the difference between them theologically, go with whichever side your country (or ancestral ethnicity, if you're a colonial) fell on.

That's part of why I don't care for Orthodoxy, another easily explainable thing is that I don't think there's anything wrong with accepting the inevitable fact that the church (in its proper form) is meant to be united. Anything else is phyletism or organisational quasi-phyletism.

The less cucked status of the Orthodox church(es) [KGB influence notwithstanding] has more to do with the political history of the eastern side of Europe than it does with any doctrine or practice desu. Priests not being allowed marrying led in a round-about way to homosexual infiltration, but it was originally a mandatory thing for the sake of minimising corruption through heritability of position and scumbags coming in just for the guaranteed job.
Other than that the Orthodox didn't have the heresy of phyletism or secular-statism poison their churches as much as the west did with Protestantism or the atheist degeneration it caused, since the Orthodox were all under Islam and anyone who did not remain loyal became the enemy by default, unlike the decadent west where degenerate scumbags could pretend that the religion itself was their enemy.

TLDR: If you're in Canada, and your ancestry is from the Latin rite side of Europe, go with Catholicism. Just don't expect everyone to already be down with the Crusade meme or whatever.

P.S.

>I don't really see the point of fasting.

That's historically been part of Catholicism and is still (primarily technically, unfortunately) viewed as "better" than not doing it.
It's also a very easy thing to understand in terms of religious practice. It's not exclusive in history to Christianity; it's a basic sacrifical-devotional act, and psychologically good because of the self-restraint you have to master and the reinforcement of the idea that you are subservient to God it engenders.

Catholicism. Orthodoxy is stagnant, it stopped growing and developing hundreds or years ago.

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Patriarchs are elected by synod, actually...

>Catholics pray to a man
Brainwashed Lutheran detected. Did you know that the Church of Sweden is a Lutheran Church?

Not historically.

Bñue pill is bible worship, no one on the bible had a bible.

There isn't really any mention of sleeping. Heaven before Armageddon isn't on earth, then it is afterwards. There's no sleeping, only waiting before the 1000 year reign.
Gnosticism is antichrist bro
Fug maccabees. Purgatory doesn't exist.

If we talk about history, Whole antipope history, that is present in nearly every epoch of the church is the same thing, you are talking about orthodoxy. Not to mention financing cardinals, blackmailing etc
You cannot avoid state interference in religious matters, unfortunately...

>no one had a bible as it was in the process of being written
Hurrrrrrrrr
>Jesus himself references Isiah
Get out

Thr church is an organization politics is inevetible and a part of the church.

>Sweden meme
Stop deflecting. Catholic scum pray, "through" a saint to get to God. This is cut and dry blasphemy. They also confess to a man. They worship the pope and other idolatry. Get out pagan

>it was in the process of being written
Jesus didnt tell anyone to write shit down in the bibñe, bible is man written traditions not authority, if they didnt have a bible what makes you thibk its necessary?

Neither. Christianity is for shitskins and retards.

That's because of who the current (((pope))) is. Check his family history, I'm sure it's just pure coincidence. Especially when you factor in the previous pope was the first to resign in almost 600 years, highly C O I N C I D E N T A L.

Upon his death and resurrection the prophets were fulfilled.
It is a witness to the promises of and collected word of God.

Ephesians 9 the wicked and the good go to the same place and that they know nothing of course it doesn't say that they're sleeping that's what the Protestants say this is where you go until judgement if you don't die in Christ

Not true, Radu was where everyone went before Christ came.

And God did instruct the prophet's to write their books

What jesus left is a church not a book.

Btfoooo

What verse is this

Just be sure to not write anything down to add witness to the church and be sure to get rid of the writings of the prophet's because it don't matter no mo
Shut up

What chapter and verse you bum?

The whole chapter really I mean if you want to boil it down read Ephesians 9:1-5 but your really missing out its not that long of a chapter I hate referencing verses because it removes the context

It quite literally doesn't support what you said at all. That's Catholicism though, stupid people who need to be thought for.