The economist wrote an article on Pepe and Trump, and it was, predictably, negative and full of useless leftist rhetoric.
HOWEVER, they were eviscerated in the comments, all of which are tremendously well spoken, save for the comments in support of the left, which are your usual tripe of OMG RACISM.
See for yourself:
>article:
archive.is
>comments:
archive.is
economist.com
Part 1 of article:
>FIRST, an apology, or rather a regret: The Economist would prefer not to advertise the rantings of racists and cranks. Unfortunately, and somewhat astonishingly, the Alt-Right—the misleading name for a ragtag but consistently repulsive movement that hitherto has flourished only on the internet—has insinuated itself, unignorably, into American politics. That grim achievement points to the reverse sway now held by the margins, of both ideology and the media, over the mainstream. It also reflects the indiscriminate cynicism of Donald Trump’s campaign.
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>Much of the Alt-Right’s output will seem indecipherably weird to those unfamiliar with the darker penumbras of popular culture. It has its own iconography and vernacular, derived from message boards, video games and pornography. Its signature insult is “cuckservative”, directed at Republicans supposedly emasculated by liberalism and money. Its favourite avatar is Pepe the frog, a cartoon-strip creature co-opted into offensive scenarios; one Pepe image was reposted this week by Donald Trump junior and Roger Stone, a leading Trumpista, the latest example of the candidate’s supporters, and the man himself, circulating the Alt-Right’s memes and hoax statistics. Its contribution to typography is the triple parentheses, placed around names to identify them as Jewish.
>To most Americans, the purposes to which these gimmicks are put will seem as outlandish as the lexicon. One of the Alt-Right’s pastimes is to intimidate adversaries with photoshopped pictures of concentration camps; a popular Alt-Right podcast is called “The Daily Shoah”. To their defenders, such outrages are either justified by their shock value or valiantly transgressive pranks. Jokes about ovens, lampshades and gas chambers: what larks!
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Part 2 of article:
>Jared Taylor of American Renaissance, an extremist website, dismisses these antics as “youthful rebellion”. (Mr Taylor is also involved with the Council of Conservative Citizens, which Dylann Roof cited as an inspiration for his racist massacre in Charleston last year.) But the substance behind the sulphur can seem difficult to pin down. The term Alt-Right, reputedly coined in 2008 by Richard Spencer of the National Policy Institute, a bogus think-tank, encompasses views from libertarianism to paleoconservatism and onwards to the edges of pseudo-intellectual claptrap and the English language. Many Alt-Righters demonise Jews, but a few do not. Some, such as Brad Griffin of Occidental Dissent, another website, think “democracy can become a tool of oppression”, and that monarchy or dictatorship might be better; others, such as Mr Taylor, disagree. Some are techno-futurists; others espouse a kind of agrarian nostalgia. Many mourn the Confederacy. Mr Griffin thinks that, even today, North and South should separate.
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>Yet from the quack ideologues to the out-and-proud neo-Nazis, some Alt-Right tenets are clear and constant. It repudiates feminism with misogynistic gusto. It embraces isolationism and protectionism. Above all, it champions white nationalism, or a neo-segregationist “race realism”, giving apocalyptic warning of an impending “white genocide”. Which, of course, is really just old-fashioned white supremacism in skimpy camouflage.
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Part 3 of article:
>That is why the term Alt (short for “alternative”) Right is misleading. Mr Taylor—whom Heidi Beirich of the Southern Poverty Law Centre, a watchdog, describes as the movement’s “intellectual leader”—says it represents an alternative to “egalitarian orthodoxy and to neutered ‘conservatives’.” That characterisation elevates a racist fixation into a coherent platform. And, if the Alt-Right is not a viable political right, nor, in the scope of American history, is it really an alternative. Rather it is the latest iteration in an old, poisonous strain of American thought, albeit with new enemies, such as Muslims, enlisted alongside the old ones. “Fifty years ago these people were burning crosses,” says Jonathan Greenblatt of the Anti-Defamation League, a venerable anti-racist group. “Today they’re burning up Twitter.”
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>Probably the best that can be said for the Alt-Right is that its mostly youngish adherents are naive: unaware that 21st-century America is not the worst society the world has ever conjured, and so prime exemplars of the pampered modernity they denounce. Their numbers are hard to gauge, since they mostly operate online and, as with most internet bullies, anonymously: like dissidents in the Soviet Union they must, Mr Taylor insists, for fear of punishment. As with pornographers, though, the web has let them forge like-minded communities and propagate their ideas, as well as harass critics and opponents (particularly those thought to be Jewish). Online, they have achieved sufficient density to warrant wider attention. There, too, they and Mr Trump found each other.
Part 3 of article:
>The association precedes Mr Trump’s hiring as his campaign manager of Stephen Bannon, former boss of Breitbart News, a reactionary news website that Mr Bannon reportedly described as “the platform for the Alt-Right”, and which has covered the movement favourably. Already Mr Trump had echoed the Alt-Right’s views on Muslims, immigration, trade and, indeed, Vladimir Putin, whom Alt-Righters ludicrously admire for his supposed pursuit of Russia’s national interest. Pressed about these shared prejudices (and tweets), Mr Trump has denied knowing what the Alt-Right is, even that it exists—unable, as usual, to disavow any support, however cretinous, or to apply a moral filter to his alliances or tactics.
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>This is not to say he created or leads it, much as Alt-Right activists lionise his strongman style. Mr Taylor says Mr Trump seems to have “nationalistic instincts that have led him to stumble onto an immigration policy that is congruent with Alt-Right ideas”, but that “we are supporting him, not the reverse.” Breitbart, Alt-Righters say, is merely Alt-Lite. The true relationship may be more a correlation than causal: Mr Trump’s rise and the Alt-Right were both cultivated by the kamikaze anti-elitism of the Tea Party, rampant conspiracy theories and demographic shifts that disconcert some white Americans.
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>Unquestionably, however, Mr Trump has bestowed on this excrescence a scarcely dreamed-of prominence. As Hillary Clinton recently lamented, no previous major-party nominee has given America’s paranoid fringe a “national megaphone”. Many on the Alt-Right loved that speech: “it was great,” says Mr Griffin. “She positioned us as the real opposition.” Because of Mr Trump, the Alt-Right thinks it is on the verge of entering American politics as an equal-terms participant. “He is a bulldozer who is destroying our traditional enemy,” says Mr Griffin. Mr Trump may not be Alt-Right himself, but “he doesn’t have to be to advance our cause.”
END
should say part 4, but i fucked up
Thing with leftists is they have no argument. I cant fathom how stupid these people are that they have nothing but muh racism to use against anyone
My comment: feels bad, man.
But $127/year was great until this.
They were always so conservative but i guess got cucked by global interests this year.
Post the comments I'm not click this kike bait
When you live in a society where all your peers tell you you are right, and have an almost religious adherence to a doctrine of psuedoequality, any challenge to that is more than just a mere opposition of opinion; it is comparable to heresy, for the sacred gods of "diversity" have been challenged.
I archived it: archive.is
Here's my favorite:
>Mr. Taylor believes in hiring based on merit. Unlike most liberal activists, he lived for years in a mixed neighborhood and had black neighbors and friends.
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>He is not anti-semitic; he's observed over and over that Jews have higher IQs than most groups.
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>Of all people, Jews should know the story of Joseph's brothers who were so enraged by their father's affirmative actions in his favor that they contemplated murdering him and sold him into slavery instead. Jews should know the invidious damage done by racial preferences.
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>I fail to grasp why so many Jews who spent years on the wrong end of racial preferences have urged our government to get into the business of discriminating for and against people based on race.
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>Mr. Taylor does not do that, he's concerned with merit.
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>Your article lists so many contradictions among those whom you label "Alt-right" that it seems that they aren't really a group at all, it's just a convenient label for you to hurl. I realize you've gone all in for Crooked Hillary, but tarring private citizens doesn't speak well of you.
You can get them all for free via RSS anyways, and just disable cookie retention on the site for reading everything.
If you want I can give you a list of their RSS feeds you can add to your reader
>Using the term "Hateful Fringe" unironically
Ah i see the archive didn't work.
Try this one:
web.archive.org
>author literally shoves large words into every possible bridge between sentences in a poor attempt to seem more intelligent.
makes me lel every time
Another good comment:
>1. Quite hated this "hateful FRINGE movement"...
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>And who do they hate? Their POLITICAL opponents? People like you (who hate them in turn)?... Then why one hatred is "better" than the other?
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>(I don't understand why some American Muslims, Jews or Blacks shouldn't sympathise with that ideology. If there are among Whites people who positively adore Muslims, Jews or Blacks why shouldn't there be also the reverse situation - Muslims, Jews and non-Whites who so much adore European civilisation and White people that are prepared to give up their own religious and ethnic identity and fully assimilate into the White identity?...)
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>2. "Jonathan Greenblatt of the Anti-Defamation League, a venerable anti-racist group"
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>LOL. That is a venerable Jewish nationalist organisation. So Jewish nationalism (suprematism) is OK but White nationalism not? Like in "everybody is equal but some people are more equal than others"?..
They arent blocking my account, im just not paying for my print subscription
Its still great information on a lot of topics. For the last 4 years ive accepted its conservative slant and looked past it for the useful information.
But come on, pepe is worth a garbage article like this? Did they hire some new interns who literally dont know anything about the internet to write this?
This article is journalism the same way a tomato is a vegetable.
I don't pay for it at all, and still get all the content for free. They used to, not sure if they still do, have a cookie which only lets you read 3 articles a day. Blocking permanent cookies using uMatrix (or even chrome native deny cookies) neatly sidesteps that
They were an elegant, if a bit old fashioned, newspaper, but as this election has done numerous times before, they've been destroyed by useless ideology.
Who cares? Trump is a worthless piece of shit and we all know it.
Someone else pointed out that this article is not signed. Economist journos used to sign all their articles off.
Here's your (You)
They still are, but i went to their innovation forum last year and they had a lot of niggers, changs, camel jockeys and poo in loos there. Maybe the mudbloods are the ones writing/editing these trump articles.
Another great comment:
>Yes, they have lurched to the left. In fact, there is no "Alt Right" only an Alt Left. These new Alt Leftists are different from classic liberals.
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>Classic Liberalism is a political philosophy or worldview founded on the ideas of liberty and equality. That theoretically applies to both political parties in the U.S. This type of old liberalism is fine. It is the liberalism of J.F. Kennedy and Daniel Patrick Moynihan. Today, they would be Republicans.
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>The liberalism that I am referring to has devolved into a radical, leftist, progressive, globalist cult of extremist philosophies. It is embodied by the traits enacted and espoused by Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders.
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>Generally, these traits include:
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>- Moral relativity
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>- Homosexual marriage
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>- Abortion
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>- Government control
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>- Socialism/Marxism
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>- Open borders
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>- No immigration controls
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>- Federal control of schools
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>- Keynesian economic theory
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>- Redistribution of wealth
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>- A weakened military
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>- Government controlled trade
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>Personally, these new liberals like to:
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>- Brainwash the public
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>- Try to convince you that their rigid positions are open minded
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>- Hate Republicans or Conservatives and everyone who thinks differently than they do
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>- Call you a racist if you don’t agree with them
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>- Abuse minorities and tell them they are on their side, then abuse them for political power
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>- Claim expertise on science, when they have none at all
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>- Pretend to be looking out for the people but are only looking out for themselves.
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>In essence, this type of liberalism is a mental disorder that has infected the EU and about 1/2 of the U.S.
Lie down Hillary, you're having another fit.
They havent signed their articles since at least 2010 and have had multiple people go through the columnist positions
This one i assume was written by a jigaboo
>Weird comic
>Feels(bad/good)Man
>Had angry with gun added.
>Evolved into a collector's item.
>Now supposedly an "alt-right" icon.
Get fucking real, newfag liberal shits. This meme is so much bigger than that.
When basement dwelling neckbeards get a job, this is the stupid shit you see.
I'd wager it was at least an octoroon, if not a full quadroon. Given the rampant thesaurus abuse, where simpler terms would have sufficed, it reeks of "educated" black writing
Not just a weird comic, a piss fetishist comic
It just amazes me when they try to label pepe as some sort of white supremacist icon when pepe regularly torments wojack, who is quite literally white.
That last paragraph really illustrates how out of touch these people are even while they imagine they're cool and hip, and inevitably smarter in their own eyes.
Expressed racism is a huge taboo for educated circles.
Strangely however, so is living in heavily black neighborhoods like Hunts Point NYC or Englewood Chicago. I wonder why?
This fucking double speak and projection.
Is this the same paradox as how western liberals will claim to be moving to a more white country if their preferred candidate doesn't win, not a less white country (i.e. American Liberals saying they are moving to canada unless america lets in more mexicans, and not moving to mexico)
If I didn't know better, it would almost seem like the author is attempting to coax us to read the opposite of their message. But that is lending them too much credit
Why dont you move to shebzhen if ching chang chongs are as human as white people?
Shenzhen*
But why hide it? It's becoming more and more acceptable to have a contrary opinion because others have stopped being pussies and are speaking up in support.
I never made that assertion; if you read my comment I was mocking western liberals who do. I'm happy to live in Hong Kong, and while the mainland's creeping influence grows, we are still distinct from them and enjoy freedoms they do not.
Because social pressure is still extremely strong, and for newspapers like the Economist, its the second most powerful force, the first being advertising money.
What is needed for contrary opinions to flourish on the world stage once again is a critical mass of thought. We describe it as "red-pilling," prior generations called it enlightenment or illumination. One person will make a comment off the cuff of something they realize, either during or shortly after making said comment, to be against the accepted narrative, and instead of being rebuffed, as may happen today, the company they keep will embrace it, and embolden the spread of said idea.
>"Fifty years ago these people were burning crosses,” says Jonathan Greenblatt of the Anti-Defamation League, a venerable anti-racist group. “Today they’re burning up Twitter.”
I gotta admit that I like this line.
brings a tear to my eye
Enjoy the freedoms that Britain blessed you with. Hundreds of millions of white people have died over the last thousand years to bring them into the world. The struggle of the white man since the Magna Carta was written should not be equated to the history of the yellow or brown or black man.
There is no single greater gift in life than white skin, light hair, blue eyes, and the freedom your life entails because of your ancestors struggle.
Any and all other cultures are truly insignificant.
That is what he was taught to do in school. It is what his editor expects. He would be fired if he didn't. Good writers like Orwell know it's terrible prose.
Link to original text not working, but this has some of it:
brainpickings.org
>These mongrels have gone too far. I read an article last week about this chanterculture thing that has arised and even went so far as to visit their Japanese Message Board to find out what exactly was going on there.
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>Needless to say, the racism there is atrocious and the people posting there are the lowest of the low. These people are transphobic, against marriage equality and as bigoted as you can get. As innocent as it all looks from the outside, I can assure you it is not.
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>I've sent the admin of this ForChant site a message letting them know that we will not stand for what this site promotes and I encourage you all to do the same:
hehe nice gif m8
I will say again, if your skin is yellow, eyes are slanted, and hair is black, your control of the english language does not make you human. You still are inferior to any white people that exist.
I'm quoting a comment from the article you inebriated ape
>More than anything the Alt-Right is a response to the media force-feeding this nonsense to people for the past 2 or 3 decades. We know things like the pay gap, rape culture, LEO bias against blacks, and so on, are not true. Yet it is forced on us much like the Soviet Union forced mythology on it's people in order justify CONTROL.
>We just are not buying it anymore. So you can throw around all the -isms and -phobias you want at people who disagree with you. We now know that these terms are only designed to try to shut good people up. And you can use big words like "excrescence" to feel holier-than-thou and intellectually superior. That will not work either.
>The "narrative" used over the past 3 decades to manipulate and control is now dead. Articles like this are nothing more than an expression of remorse that your best days are behind you
damn
I am not incorrect in my assertion.
But you are a moron. Probably a nigger pretending to be white
I am white.
Sure you are Tyrone, sure you are
Agreed. Modern leftists are zealots for their ideals
I am.
thanks kong cock!
not that I give a shit what they write
You're both fucking fat, that's what you are
They revoked their parents religion and replaced it with a new one, based mostly on the teachings of marx
When they find out that this is actually a Tibetan Singing Bowl Tutorial Forum, it'll blow their fricking minds.
This election only made the rot more obvious. They were completely in the tank for globalism and the expansion of the EU's powers and membership as early as 2011.
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Thats why china is not civilization and chinese can be considered less than human. That and the lack of white skin and features.
I read that article
really didn't mention us, and more so held what could be placed on Cred Forums specifically as more powerful forces lost in some grand ether of the powers that be.
fucking bullshit.
the article wasn't terrible but focuses primarly on talking heads, and not the voters/people/pol/
Trump supporter with proof actually.
God a hate the Soros Poverty Law Center
that is good
To be fair their parents' religion was shit too. Confucian emphasis on order, tradition, and obedience had a chilling effect on exploration and innovation, which is why China in 1420 was pretty much the same as China in 1920 once you got away from the tiny European and American spheres of influence on the coast.
thx
Screencaped and your comments will be used to prove how racist Trump supporters really are
t. Der Spiegel :)
Delete Cred Forums
Please do. You guys had the same ideas until 1945. Prost! Happy Oktoberfest!
Yep. There was a shitty article published about Scandinavia and some internationalist shit, I can't remember what it was, but it was so very different than their previous reporting style. Unfortunately it has now become the norm.
He's been trying to derail the whole thread with obviously fake "racism". Just ignore him now. Either he's CTR, or some butthurt weeaboo faggot who the girls laugh at and call a 鬼佬
Just stop giving him (You)s
I was referring to western religions, specifically the breed of protestantism that is so unique to america. The "megachurches" with the 300 foot tall crucifixes and drumkits on stage, that kind of religion. "Big Tent" religion. The modern liberals who support Hillary rejected all the theistic components of the religion, but kept the ardor and worship, redirecting them to the idols of diversity and globalism, and kept the ideas of a satanistic evil; white males. They practice this new religions not in a church, but in the streets and on television.
Confucianism did largely have a negative impact, but the blowback against it was equally devastating, even if it did modernize china. The Cultural revolution killed more people than even the most exaggerated claims of the holocaust, yet is barely brushed in western education.
The buddhist principle of moderation in all things is generally far more apt, for both day to day life and politics
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>I was referring to western religions, specifically the breed of protestantism that is so unique to america.
Oh, I misread your post. I agree with your comments on modern Protestantism and secular progressive dogma.
Thank you based Hong Kong.
I am a longtime reader of the economist. I posted a comment on the article you posted. I even posted what i wrote.
I do not care what you call me, i am white. You owe your life not to me, but my culture. Please ignore me, but also please be white.
The gook has been posting intelligent shit all over the thread, while you've been shitposting "muh heritage" crap all over. You're either a nigger, or an insult to your white genes
If someone had told me 2 years ago that news sites would be posting pictures of Pepe, I would not have believed them.
We've come a far way from a simple crop of a silly comic.
>Probably the best that can be said for the Alt-Right is that its mostly youngish adherents are naive: unaware that 21st-century America is not the worst society the world has ever conjured, and so prime exemplars of the pampered modernity they denounce.
This sentence applies much better to every fucktard SJW whining about oppression from their gated upper middle class communities
Those comments are great. I enjoy watching the leftist narrative be deconstructed in real time
They thought generations of control over our children through their most formative years would be enough
They though propaganda bombardment through TV, posters, news, magazines and culture would be enough
To extinguish the flame inside our hearts
Look at them now
Complete panic mode
Over a god dammed pepe
That gave me a bit of slight pause, wondering if the author was coating their true meaning in a guise of "correct" thought. But then the article veers away and into stupidland and confirms my initial thoughts of it
>The buddhist principle of moderation in all things is generally far more apt, for both day to day life and politics
buddhists are idiots who think the universe decides what is good or bad and rewards them accordingly, even for past transgressions from previous lives(that they can't prove existed), what a bunch of grade F moran faggots
Compared to christianity, which has an omnipotent figure doing the same?
compared objectively to logic and reason
>HURRR my brand of bullshit smells slightly less than other brands
they even pretend they don't have a god, but the universe can magically decide what is good or bad and mete out punishment or reward, EVEN FOR PAST LIVES!
this leads to a belief that when bad things happen it was because of previous bad deeds in a life they can't prove happened
also they say not wanting anything is the secret to happiness, what bullshit, why advance as a society if you don't want anything? even safety or sustenance
I will agree to that
I am holding up both my hands with all the fingers folded down and just the thumbs pointing up, raising them slightly up and down
>record corrected