In this thread goes everything of about what is wrong with our monetary and economical system. post memes, info graphs and what als you have.
Pic related is something I made in MS Paint some time ago when I was still a 9fagger, but whats written is inside. I also dont mind you using and reposting this if you want since I only want the word spread
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>Pic related is something I made in MS Paint some time ago when I was still a 9fagger, but whats written is inside [EDIT: should be correct though]. I also dont mind you using and reposting this if you want since I only want the word spread
That's interesting. It is complicated though.
Does that mean the US government necessarily goes bankrupt unless there's economic growth going on (leading to more tax revenue that allows to pay the interest on the money printed on their behalf)?
There's supposedly a second part to the "petro-dollar" scheme which makes the USDs flow back into the US (the "recycling" step IIRC). Mostly in exchange for "financial services" which allows other nations to benefit a little from the scam too somehow. And making them more dependent on the US' financial system at the same time. I really don't get it though, this part seems pretty complicated.
there are 2 ways basically to not go bankrupt, increase the taxes so much you can at least pay back the interests of the governmentbonds or even more to reduce the debt. they dont use that because more taxes means people get angry and you lose votes. The other method is print more money to pay of the interests, which than enhances the debts, which will increase the interests once again for which they again have to print new dollars (which will increase inflation and thus is a hidden tax so essentially the same just that they can blame the economy for that and not take the guilt themselves) now they have this debtlimit which they cant cross, where they basically are not allowed to sell the bonds anymore. if that happens they have a pretty pragmatic way to not go bancrupt. they enhance the debtlimit and start printing again
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i dont know anything about the recycling thing you mentioned though
however here is another thing to think about. in the picture you see how banks make money, 1 thousand dollars they can create 10000 pretty quick by giving debt to someone. that guy also has to pay interests. now there are 1000 dollars in the save, 10000 as debt, plus lets say 10% interests (just to make the calculation easier) now even the first thousand were created through debt by the government and also has to pay interest. so ALL the money in circulation is just debt by someone to someone else. if everyone would try to pay back their debt at once, not only all the money will be out of circulation, but the 10% interest (or however much you have) would be still there as debt even though all the money is gone. now how to pay that 10% off? you work. who are you indebted to? the banks. so who do you work for? the banks. did they ever asked you to work for them? did they ever gave you any choice? that is basically slavery without people realizing it
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>All Wars Are Bankers' Wars
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OK. Yeah I get the general idea of fractional reserves banking, but the implications are a bit difficult to grasp. Especially with SO much "virtual" money and perpetual indebtedness. People are in so much debts nowadays and it just keeps getting worse. The banks are always supporting crap to make people borrow more. And they're just rolling in free money at this point? Those sort of things might be OK if it really allows economic growth and people eventually pay off their debts. Now it seems the whole economy is debt-based somehow. More and more people don't own property anymore, they rent and they owe debt instead. Some democracy this is when no one really owns anything for themselves. All of this has probably been very well planned out. I could see social control and world order layers to it. But I have a hard time understanding money desu. I'm no jew.
I understand the cancer of the petro dollar and the American system but the question is how do we fix this? How do we get rid of the Monetary system based on debt and what do we replace it with
Look up Michael Hudson. He's a respected economist, part of the team that established that the pyramids were built with compensated craft labor and not slavery, he writes extensively and relevantly about debt and rent-seeking.
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it is pretty hard to understand at first, it is designed to be so less people look into it, and even less people understand. now if you want to look further into it this movie is really interesting. it kinda got me on this track to look into it first
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also there is a book "the creature of jekyll island" which is about the federal reserve and how it was created, and politicians decieved to get it into the system. i have to admit i have yet to finish that book. once you got into the theme it isnt that complicated anymore. you just have to start wrapping your mind around
holy shit, thats not a red pill, those are entire red medical treatment plans for a widespread epidemic. i hope you understand i cant watch all of it now since here it is already 5 AM
I know, I just post them whenever I see fit. This would also be worth a read at some point.
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do we really need money? there are so many ressources, so many people having fun with their jobs, so many people who would go out of their way to help others if we just would have enough free time. i believe in a world free of government and money, where people help each other because they want to and not to gain. where when someone screws over others people dont just stand there apathical and wait for others to handle him, but to be the solution themselves. i know we have to mature a or even evolve a lot psychologically and spiritually to accomplish that. but if money is out of play, maybe greed will be as well when everyone sees there is enough for everyone. and maybe that maturing will come a lot quicker than we might think
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saved it, and definitely will read it some time. your efforts wont be in vain. at least someone will look into it
Pic related: CNBC brought an article about moneylaundering by bank of 43 TRILLION Dollars. the article dissappeared quickly and another news were found saying the kids of the CNBC executive got murdered, allegedly by the nanny
but sure the banks arent evil
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Does /biz/ ever have threads like this? I ignore the other boards most of the time.
how should i know, im only on Cred Forums, sometimes /x/, was once in /sci/ because of a theory and Cred Forums some while ago, but i only found porn there and didnt looked again
See the problem with this is that money allows those who would otherwise be incapable of living prosperous and fulfilling lives to craft their own future through hard work and determination.
In a money-less world, the physically strong and influential would monopolize everything. Technological innovation would come to a close and people would be forced to live with the cards they've been dealt, rather than be in charge of their own future.
See the problem with this is that money allows those who would otherwise be incapable of living prosperous and fulfilling lives to craft their own future through hard work and determination.
In a money-less world, the physically strong and influential would monopolize everything. Technological innovation would come to a close and people would be forced to live with the cards they've been dealt, rather than be in charge of their own future
Were you too retarded to spell "supply" correctly?
monopolization only works by deception, or by law. by law because it makes people think its okay since the law is good, and so is everything that is allowed, while what is not allowed automatically is bad, and so they dont do anything against it because the law says its ok. now with deception it is either by telling the people you dont have a monopol, or by you dont abuse it. however if you have a monopol, and you do abuse people will get mad real quick. and not only those who are treated unjust by the monopol. often enough you see people standing up for others, even though in case of SJWs they arent really helping. so no matter how strong you are, as soon as people catch on to what you are doing you are in trouble because they are many, and will become even more. no matter how strong you are, you would always go against the majority.
also why would technological innovation stop? there are a lot of geniuses out there who simply have no time or means to do any research or invent something because they have to wory about their rent, food, tax etc. now if the people would finally help each other out, others who are good at farming and hunting and cooking help those who arent, but they can concentrate on building stuff, researching stuf, inventing stuff, whatever they like, and give those stuff to people who helped them again. people liking to work on computers care for the servers, people who have fun with carpentry do that for others and so on.
i mean if you find someone who likes to be whipped and/or shitted and pissed on from his whole heart, you find people liking anything for stuff that has to be done.
again, i know this is utopical. after all this is my utopia, but i still believe we could accomplish such a world
apparently. but then i'd like to hear your text about the economic system in perfect german if you dont mind
these threads used to be quite common here. /biz/ would probably start raving about gold standard, private money or some other blue pill stuff
>From 1939 to 1974 the Bank of Canada provided the Canadian government with large sums of money at near zero cost. This got us out of the Great Depression, helped finance World War II, and many great post-war projects like the St. Lawrence Seaway and the Trans-Canada highway, as well as contributing to the establishment of our Medicare and social security systems which were the envy of the world.
>All was well until 1974 when, without government approval, the Bank of Canada abandoned its shareholders, the Canadian people, and adopted the rules of the Bank for International Settlements. The Bank for International Settlements (BIS) is the de facto headquarters of the international banking cartel, a club of immensely rich con artists who have persuaded kings, queens, emperors and politicians to give them licenses to lend the same money to 15 or 20 different individuals, companies, or governments simultaneously, and collect interest from each one of them – a global fraud without equal.
gold standard isnt too bad though. it at least stops the endless production of new money. it isnt the solution, but better than what we have now at least.
private money would just go the same way as governmental did
I'm mostly Cred Forums & /k/ but I'm looking to expand. This thread makes me want to do some more research on the topic.
This video is why everything is what is.
Banking is similar to online piracy. In the same way it only takes one person to upload a DVD to the internet for hundreds to download, banks only need a small amount of capital to give out 20x its value in loans. They are effectively loaning the same money 20 times and collecting interest from each loan. Essentially the money for 19 of those individuals was completely made up and is backed by nothing. Online pirates get no financial benefit from pirating, and are demonized and are charged with theft. Bankers get rewarded for their behavior. They have the monopoly on money creation for almost every country, and thereby control their economy.
Imagine you are taking a 20,000 loan. The bank approves and make an entry and you have 20,000 in credit. That money did not exist prior to your loan. Banks need 1/20th of the capital to make a loan... realistically probably less. So they gave you a 20,000 loan from their 1000. They are making you pay interest on money backed by nothing.
Money is therefore nothing but debt and thus when you payback a loan you are destroying money.
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>bank makes money for loan
>charge you interest
>destroy money upon repayment
>all that is left is the interest they collect
It's such a scam. Cred Forums is not redpilled in the slightest regarding the banks and various multinational organizations that have stolen national sovereignty through their free-trade deals, regulations, etc. These banks and orgs keep everyone under their thumb. They keep the first world cycling through recessions, and keep the 3rd world from any hope of industrialization.
Nothing else matters but reforming the banking system. I highly recommend reading Paul Hellyer's book Money Mafia. He was the Canadian Minister of Defense, founded the Canadian Action Party, and has now been promoting banking reform in Canada.
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by the way i forgot to say, our current money is private money. the federal reserve for example isnt federal. it just calls itself that way. it is a private bank whith the consession (hope thats the right word for the allowance) to print money by the government. it has the monopoly on that. and the other central banks are the same
i really like your example with online piracy. i hope you dont mind me using that in further discussions. however its even worse. the online pirates do it for free, to do some good for others, and only damage hollywood which mostly consists of rapists and childmolestors.
about paul hellyer, first he comes out and talks that aliens do exist and work with the governments in secret, and now he even gows against the banks. i think i love that maple nigger now
I had a conversation about the reality of this monetary scheme with my friend at happy hour just the other day. We don't talk about Cred Forums really but I highly suspect he comes here. I only found out about this stuff when I became a Cred Forums regular for the election over a year ago. Now I go to the liquor store and hear people rant about the Rothschilds.
I fear that people might be waking up to this reality a little too quickly. I suspect people are getting redpilled en mass because of the fappening and Trump. I have a real fear that there will be dire consequences of this entering the public consciousness too hard and too fast. I think the system is fucked but I don't want to see what a collapse looks like.
He has been talking about the (((banks))) for way longer than about aliens. I think it's unfortunate he's tied aliens into it because it makes him seems less credible.
The man is based as fuck though. 93 years old and is touring the country to promote Canadian banking reform. He's being kept alive only by his desire to save Canada from the (((banks))).
If you get a chance sign that petition on the website and help us clueless leafs out. I have tried to make multiple threads about the banks here on Cred Forums but they never catch on. It makes me realize Cred Forums doesn't want to talk about anything worth while. They just want to spew memes and self pity and racist garbage. This is the major issue relating to the sovereignty of our nations.
Also, please do use my analogy. It was intuited to me after reading Hellyer's book "Goodbye Canada" and I think it's actually quite apt.
There are two major problems that will be reckoned one way or another in the 21st century. Of course the financial shell game that really started with the introduction of usury after the 4th crusade by the Pope or anti-Pope of Rome at the time to redistribute all that stolen wealth - with strings attached - simple greed there. Usury ensures continuous concentration of wealth which is why so much goes into social control today, to keep the economic slaves in line by those moneyed families that really trace back to incestuous inbreds like the house of Hapsburg. Not really people well suited for leadership.
Secondly, energy depletion. Fossil fuels may have peaked so it's all downhill from here along with the population, the idea of 7 billion souls without substantial free flowing fossil fuels is ludicrous. I suspect that problem will accelerate as we enter the age of real resource wars considering all wars of the past were fought with abundant natural resources, these new age wars will be particularly gruesome. Not really good times to be alive, next up is the totalitarian technocracy in an effort to maintain control! Yay! Also, we are now living in the age of the ape which compounds all of man kinds problems.
honestly, i probably wouldnt even mind if this world goes to shit. because from the ashes humanity will rise again, and hopefully wont do the same errors again. in fact i believe the collapse happened already to a few advanced civilizations earlier.
but i would probably not even mind if i die in the process if it means the next generation can have a fresh start and bring a bright future. i know when the time comes i would probably do everything to not die, including begging like that hobo at the corner, but right now i say a total collapse would have ultimately have a good outcome. the only thing is we have to keep the records save through the collapse or they will do the same errors again. the truth spreading is good. the more people now the truth, the less bright will the lies shine, and those blinded by the lies will eventually start seeing themselves in the dark again where the truth is hidden. and when the truth in the darkness is seen we will bring chaos upon this false order of lies and deception, freeing us and the world from the shackles the kin of moloch has put upon us and the world, and the darkness shall become so thick that even the owls cant see their own lies shining anymore and will be devoured by the chaos. that is when we will have won
The (((banks))) is the biggest redpill I have ever had to swallow. I don't think I'll ever look at anything the same again.
I was watching Rachel Maddow and she mentioned the Rothschilds in a list of crazy conspiracy theories of Alex Jones. I found it shocking that she even mentioned it, but it was to lump it in with nutty theories to thereby discredit it as having something to it. Even our most liberal media is completely bought. I wouldn't be surprised it threads on Cred Forums like this are deliberately slid.
honestly the stuff about the aliens make him more credible for me. i always thought there were aliens. hell i even saw a UFO once when i was small (nothing extraordinary, round thing with lights, probably 20m in diameter flew above my head followed by 2 military jets. maybe was just a dream since i was small, and never asked anyone who was there because i didnt want to be the crazy one among them in case it really was just a dream, but the memory is pretty real for me). seeing how whole cities have seen UFOs like phoenix lights, or in 1954 in madagascar. even point pleasent during the mothman stuff the entire city saw UFOs. so it isnt the question wether there are UFOs or not, but who flies them. humans or aliens. also i wouldnt be too quick to always say something is imagined, crazy or impossible because you cant believe it. and when someone says he was abducted by aliens of course i dont trust blindly, but i consider it being possible and listen at least to the story instead of judging right in the beginning. thats something very few people do. anything that doesnt fit their worldview is just not real.
is there any point in signing as a non leaf?
It is the biggest redpill by far. Everything else is either a byproduct of financial manipulation, or irrelevant. It makes race, immigration, SJW stuff completely irrelevant by comparison, yet it's funny because Cred Forums's hate for Jews can still be maintained.
Thing is these ideas can be disseminated via memes without seeming like edgy anti-semites. Just replace Jew with banker. It really doesn't matter.
Not sure if there is much point signing as a non-leaf. but who knows?
As far as aliens go I just can't be sure. I would never deny the possibility though I just find the discussions about them so hard to believe. Though Paul Hellyer is really convincing.
At 37 I have just reached a point in my life where I am on pretty stable footing. I am content with myself and my life. I have a few good friends and genuinely enjoy the people at my work and mix with them socially. I have my apartment and computer, little debt. I have reached the age where I take the long view and find simple pleasure in humble living. I love that on at Saturday I can stay up all night and go out at 2am for chocolate milk if I should so choose.
I just don't want the train to derail before I reach my stop.
It eclipses everything. I have been wondering what movies are nods to this by redpilled directors, the Matrix? I just saw the film Synecdoche New York by Charlie Kaufman and couldn't help wondering if there was some hidden allusion there to the life of a person like a Rothschild whose existence is outside of money.
yeah, when i talk with someone about this stuff i always try to leave the jew out of it, because in my oppinion it doesnt even matter. yes, most of those in top position are jews, but there are also jews who suffer because of them just as we do.
also i think its actually the only red pill to swallow. i mean it basically IS the matrix we are living in. its just not a computerprogramm, and we arent attached to machines harvesting our energy, but we work as slaves for the banks, essentially being just an energy source for them, and the matrix is just the social construct making it look like we are free. those who are still attached to it will fight for the system thinking it is the right thing to do.
we are morpheus, the dreamer (god of dreams) who walks around giving people the red pill in the hope of finding the chosen one, even though it will be probably the chosen ones as this system is too big for one to tackle. or maybe the chosen one is someone in a position where people believe and listen to him. maybe someone who is in a position to have information which will wake the people up. but ultimately we are doing the same.
if we have solved this problem, everything else will be probably solved over night
>if we have solved this problem, everything else will be probably solved over night
To solve this problem would cause a calamity that would engulf the globe for generations and possible usher in a new dark age.
Also, I have many Jewish friends and the average Jew is not your enemy. It is natural for them to be in high positions because Ashkenaszi Jews have the highest IQ of any ethnic group, I believe.
I would have never envisioned that I would see anyone like you on Cred Forums of all places.
Don't get the wrong idea, this isn't a bad thing by any means. It's essentially in light of the fact that that this board is overflowing with those who'd preferably and call each other niggers in comical threads as opposed to posting and actually discussing in a wise manner the thoughts given in these threads.
I realize that I'm conveying absolutely nothing to the discussion right now however it's stunning to see a genuine thread with attentive posters. It's a disgrace that this site isn't the perfect place to discuss such things despite the fact that stuff like this is fundamentally one of the many principle thoughts behind it all.
>average Jew
>not your enemy
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>increase the taxes so much you can at least pay back the interests of the governmentbonds or even more to reduce the debt. they dont use that because more taxes means people get angry and you lose votes
No they don't do that because they aren't France, a country taht has onlyever been a democracy onpaper
of course i dont want to get of the ride myself. but if it will free us from alle the lies and deception it will be an overall goodthing for the future of mankind
i really dont think that. i believe it keeps us more in the dark ages. i mean you have to realize that major banks always fund both sides of a war, often creating the conflict to begin with. they get the money with interests back, or if not they demand reperations, bring the IMF under the disguise of rebuilding the country, but essentially just results in privatizations of infrastructure, economybranshes the country lieves on or even the humanitarian stuff like hospitals and so on overtaking the whole country. when the government complains they just say "but muh interests" and they basically have to do what they say.
why do you think they give loans to countries too poor to pay it back´, or even too poor to even pay the interest? so they can loan them even more to pay for the interests, which creates bigger interest they will eventually have to take a loan again for. if they then dont do like they said they just stop giving money, the rating drops, no other bank will give them any more and their whole economy comes to a fall.
even if all civilization gets destroyed, as long as we dont rebuild that system we will flourish again in no time. that is what i honestly believe.
however, i leave you guys, it 8am here now and i need to sleep. finally. keep the thread going, i will read every post even though i wont probably watch every 5 hour long video. keep spreading the truth, for it is our mightiest weapon against the lies. good night, or morning, day, whatever, and kek be with you
It's all about finding the diamonds in the rough, user. That's why I keep coming here.
You make good points. You have to break a bone to reset it properly, I just hope it doesn't hurt too much.
Thanks for thread, user. Start another one soon.
This thread is a mess
All fiat currency is built on faith in worth. Not complicated.
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"It's the bankers, man"
Frank was a sephardic jew
irreverence is a virtue now
even the mention of God stirs up hate