Greetings comrades.This thread is for the discussion of all leftist politics. Welcome:
>socialists
>communists
>Marxists
>anarchists
>social democrats
>interested observers
Not welcome:
>fascists
>reactionaries
Thoughts on the US Presidential election, Corbyn's re-election as Labour leader and the US police shootings?
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Blairite purge soon
Damn right.
leftism isn't real
No commies pls
How do we solve the classcuck problem?
Sorry friend. No can do,
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Simple. It can't be a problem if it isn't real.
you joke but this actually happened to me
Wtf is this allowed
sage
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I
DONT
FEEL
NO
WAYS
TARD
Just got a ban warning.
"Replying to garbage posts"
What the fuck? I'm not even kidding right now
Damn right it is
>commies literally want to ruin pumpkin spice lattes
I bet you've never even had one.
Finally a thread I can relate to!
What do you even discuss on a leftism thread?
Definitely not facts since you guys hate that
What do you mean friend?
Why not drink a latte while participating in the glorious vanguard revolution?
Our next president's best quote
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Inflation and lack of economic growth general
We sit around baiting reactionaries and posting lefty memes mostly
OFFICIAL, INDISPUTABLE LEFTISM TIERS
GOD TIER
>not a leftist
MISGUIDED TIER
>Stalinists
DUDE WEED TIER
>libertarians
>anarchists
FREE HELICOPTER RIDE TIER
>Marxists
>other Communists
>anarchists
KILL YOURSELF, YOU DON'T EVEN GET A HELICOPTER RIDE TIER
>social democrats
>cuckservatives
I'm all for being a working man. I like it. But what I dont like is fucking non-whites and kikes. If your socialism doesnt have any nationalism you can shove it up your red asshole. 14/88
I'm all for facts.
wew, anarchism is in there twice.
whatever, you can have a toke before we throw you out of the chopper
Wtf I hate capitalism now
You're all leftist bastards. Fuck you all. Take an economics class. But of course, leftism does nlt advocate the truth.
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Who makes the latte? Who owns the Starbucks?
If you seriously trust the morons who work at a fast food restaurant to actually RUN the restaurant then I think you need to put on a safety helmet and get back on that short bus.
>mfw Chile was still a better nation than ALL of the rest of South America
To the gulag with ye...
sorry this whole leadership debate turned me off (((labour))) - even though there was a favourable result for democracy there are too many undesirables in the party.
Thats one hell of a spooky story
yes retardation is definitely allowed on Cred Forums
Go back to /leftypol/.
fascism is part of the left though
Cred Forums is something that no other website is; uncensored.
As much as I hate the guts of the leftists, we should allow them their shitty general.
Revolution is a spook
But it's not.
kek confirms commies BTFO how will they ever recover
I was left and was campaigning against the rich and capitalism, but then Islam came to Europe.
I'd rather get rid of muzzrats first.
t. Ex commie
Yes, but we should also shit it up constantly.
Blairites will be getting purged now. Corbyn will cement his grip on Labour and make it a proper democratic socialist party.
>Doesn't know Fascism is a leftist philosophy
I know the Soviets ran a campaign to distance themselves from it for 70 years but there is no need to stick to these retarded memes.
are you guys the REAL RACISTS i keep hearing about?
thats national socialism you're thinking of there greatest ally fascism is definitely right wing
Is a police state where the government controls everything always leftist?
I'll try to rephrase... am I wrong in assuming that LEFT = huge government, and RIGHT = tiny government that stays out of citizens lives as much as possible
If I'm wrong, how do you define whether a government is left or right
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Should've taken care to secure his property so it didn't blow away in the wind or such as it did.
They um went to the soccer stadium.
Fascism developed from syndicalism, Mussolini and other Fascist thinkers were all leftists who simply added nationalism to the mix due to WW1.
i think you mean futbol stadium imperialist american pig dog
But I'm not from there.
left wing means workers control of the means of production. communism eventually seeks to abolish the state.
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My sides
Anarchy! Screw you rules man!
They went down alright!
Trotsky was killed by a communist rival. Better way to go than old Adolf, shooting himself while the Red Army conquered his precious capital lel
They're related philosophies, neither of which are on the left. They're not as right-wing as monarchism or aristocracy but hardly leftist.
In the modern context yes, but only because modern discourse is basically dominated by leftist political thought. A right wing state can also be extremely powerful.
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>You'll never kill anarchists and social democrats in the name of glorious marxist leninism
feels bad
this is bullshit until (((they))) aren't allowed to lobby the politics, and until some of them like (((smeeth))) are removed
but isnt it anti egalitarian and socially conservative on top of its principles of economic autarky ?
>communist poster
>the person on it isn't a black transdemigenderkin with five different physical disabilities and a couple other quirks to boot
Can't believe how homophobic you are.
they didnt fly so good
TOP KEK commies in my Cred Forums? FYI right now im looking out over my 10 acre PRIVATE PROPERTY (which is hopefully sitting on an indian burial site) and planning to slash our caretakers pay just in your honor.
take a shit on a dead injun for me pls
Commies and their shabbos goyim enablers must burn.
Yes. It takes elements of both sides, hence "third position".
>but isnt it anti egalitarian
Sort of but not really, Fascists believe in corporatism which is the idea that all the social classes in a society will be forced to work together for the good of all.
>and socially conservative
So was Stalin's Russia, but few would try to paint Stalin as a right winger.
>on top of its principles of economic autarky
Fairly standard leftist discourse at the time, very similar to Stalin's Socialism in one country. Fascists believed in the concept of the Proletariat Nation, and that nation has to be guarded from the Bourgeois nations. So protectionism and autarky are a natural response.
>liberal identity politics
>communism
class cuck pls
>workers control the means of production
So if your job just pays you/everyone in stock, that makes you a socialist, right?
I'm excited for the election, because it brings us closer to the class war
>leftism
>conservative
Huh? How does that wrong?
Good worker!
pic rel
Only if Trump wins
The collapse of America will be sweeeeeeeeeeet
will do hombre. I actually need to repaint the tennis court too so ill be looking for the saddest bunch of minorities to underpay and overwork. I fucking love capitalism
>Marxists
>anarchists
>social democrats
>all getting together in one place
Confirmed for never having so much as cracked a fucking book on socialist history
not an argument
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They all got on pretty well in Stalin's gulags.
I love when reactionaries confuse the Israeli stereotype with radical leftism, it shows how ignorant they are to israel's global imperialism and oppressive capitalism.
Is it elitist of me to make fun on inbred hicks?
not an argument
I'm well aware of the splits. But we have common aims.
>"Crowned heads, wealth and privilege may well tremble should ever again the Black and Red unite!"
Otto Von Bismarck, upon hearing of the split in the First International
>Greentexts Marxism and Marxist ideologies
>Stalinism is a thing
Haha let's have a discussion about economics and how communism can totally works, guys.
Left wing means malcontent and general ugliness. It's the ideology of thievery and crime. The thought that the world owes you everything just for existing.
I do love communists though. They look really good lined up in a scope
conservatives accept leftist principles, they just want to freeze the march of poz at a point they're more comfortable with
WHERE'S MY SLICE?
I WANT MORE THAN EQUAL RIGHTS
I WANT EVERYTHING FOR FREEEEEE!!!
You fuckers ruin everything just look at Spain, they had to suffer under Francod regime for decades because the anarchists were HORRIBLE fighters and wouldn't work with the communists.
At that point the end was in sight. Why argue over idealogy when you're already dead?
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if the state owns everything resources can be more efficiently allocated. we already have more than enough food in stores to feed people, and plentiful farmlands. why would russian or north korean food shortages occur with our fertile lands?
Ah yes, cooperation among the socialist factions, that all productive group of intellectuals that totally got shit done and
oh wait
>we'll abolish human nature once and for all!
Show me a communist rally without liberal identity politics and I'll be a commie.
Your old leaders were so focused on subverting Western values they went and poisoned their own well.
I'm not an anarchist desu.
I miss the gulags. So many wannabe patriots and nationalists rotted there.
The works needs USSR 2.0
Never heard that one before
To bad i got the guns peasant scum. I can afford all kinds of hardware. I don't really need this many AR-15's but whats the point of being rich if you're not having fun amirite? Btw thats another dollar off Phillipes wage scum.
If you come across a red, fill it with lead
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Never refuted either, I see.
Based Albanian
>capitalism has only existed for a few hundred years
>primitive forms of communism have existed for hundreds of thousands of years
>muh hueman natur
>surely if I ignore something it will no longer be relevant
Uh oh, look who stumbled in!
Always living in the past, you are.
No wonder the genuine left is dead -- we all left out of frustration with identity politics and spite and destructiveness.
>toilet paper has only existed for a few hundred years
>primitive forms of wiping your ass with your hand have existed for hundreds of thousands of years
>obviously it would be best to abandon toilet paper
"human nature" is the capitalist equivalent to the feudalism's "divine right of kings"
>Sort of but not really, Fascists believe in corporatism which is the idea that all the social classes in a society will be forced to work together for the good of all.
well yea buts thats not exactly a classless society though its still hierarchal
>So was Stalin's Russia, but few would try to paint Stalin as a right winger.
Now this confuses me i was trying to redpill a stalinist friend of mine i was saying that soviet russia was inherently nationalistic and anti degeneracy but his rebuttal was that gays where accepted and women got equal rights so im not sure where the modern communists stand on this
>Fairly standard leftist discourse at the time, very similar to Stalin's Socialism in one country. Fascists believed in the concept of the Proletariat Nation, and that nation has to be guarded from the Bourgeois nations. So protectionism and autarky are a natural response.
but isnt communism a internationalist movement with more focus on class than nation i thought you saw nations as constructs of the elites as a means to keep the proles divided
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Daily reminder that leftists are gays
you mean feudalism and tribalism
>communism
>primitive
Well at least you got something correct, for once.
>primitive socioeconomic systems working past a certain population threshold in the current geopolitical environment
Yeah, nah m8
>that flag
>I lived in the soviet union so my opinion matters plus my family were kulaks who had to flee so I'm not biased at all hehe : ^ ) ps I work for fox "news"
Do you really think that cultural marxism is a thing?
Muke?
Reminder that this is the person calling you a cuck
Everytime.
>micromanaging each individuals external stimuli for their entire lives will solve that problem!
Orwell is rolling in his grave
Yeah, gay space communism n shit
Holy shit this thread is cancer
If you wanna be ruled by an ironfist and not get fucked over by Capitalists Fascism is the way. Communism is literally just a shit version of Fascism for liberals who deny basic human emotions and want everyone to be le equal special snowflakes
Prove Communism is better then Fascism, Pro tip you can't only Slav trash and Chinks like Communism, Fascism is the White mans government.
Everyone below this line gets gassed
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>leftism
Fuck off Commies
I know that cultural marxism is thing, have you lived in a bubble for all your- oh wait, yes you have. That's the only way someone can actually be communist.
Seriously, I've never met a communist in college who didn't come from a nice sheltered suburb.
We need the divine right of kings again. Peasants having a say in things is where everything went wrong
bruh you just gassed a 6/10 trump girl
and me
thicc
>b-based jew
That wasn't the argument it would be more like
>"N-Not sticking toilet paper up your arse is human nature because humans haven't done it for a few hundred years Ignore the fact that for 99% of our time on earth we've been doing it"
>6/10
You're degenerate trash
omg body shaming bigot
>Mental Illness general
Leftists here are despised as the traitors they are, the leader of the left in Israel wanted to let in Syrians here for example which would obviously threaten to destroy us. Sorry for the shit diasporafags.
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Micromanaging? Nah. Communism means the free development of all, without coercion from wage labour and private property.
When do I get my check?
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> the leader of the left in Israel wanted to let in Syrians here
kek, jews can't resist jewing everyone.
This is going to be a shitposting thread of one single brit cuck? Cool
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Get out
All post-industrial leftist ideologies have failed.
You're a bunch of beta males that pretend to care about the common man, but really you're just lazy retards that don't wanna commit to anything.
TLDR; get a job
Keep trying zionist. you'll get your comeuppance
en.wikipedia.org
Lets say that cultural marxism is a thing, you know we're against that right? It's supposedly a liberal bourgeois conspiracy theory.
>Cultural Marxism' in modern political parlance commonly refers to a conspiracy theory which sees the Frankfurt School as part of a contemporary movement within the political left to take over and destroy Western society. Originally the term had a far less common usage within Cultural Studies where it described The Frankfurt School's objections to forms of culture they saw as having been mass-produced and imposed from above by a top-down Culture Industry, which they claimed alienates people from developing a broader sense of their own cultural context and class interests.
>I've never met a communist in college who didn't come from a nice sheltered suburb.
Have you met a lot of Communists? Where?
also how do you explain the amount of revolutions going on right now then (Kurdistan,Nepal,Turkey,India ect)?
I was a RAGING communist in my younger age, and also mid 20s. Last few months I fully graduated to fascist mentalities, such as hardcore meritocracy and anarcho-capitalist liberty.
I still believe a great deal in communes, though I don't believe they can be enforced by the state. Only suggested, and ultimately I do believe that mankind is evolving toward something more closely resembling Chinese culture, that is a more unified central state of some sort. I'd like to see Europe learn a bit from that attitude of the greater good, yet at the same time while holding onto what makes us Europeans great, that is creativity and scientific discovery in my opinion.
When we put together Chinese collectivism and European creativity, we may ultimately find ourselves reaching the stars, and not simply figuratively or whatever. I mean, we will go to the stars when this happens because we will be able to collectively unify our energy toward such a goal, and also have the high creativity being directed with the will of the multitude.
because of retarded arab loving left giving the israeli left a bad name
What kind of communist were you?
kill yourself
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Get out of my Cred Forums. Communism/socialism has failed every single time it has been tried. Walls need to built to keep people inside communist counties because they're so shit.
In short, please gas yourselves.
>racist imperialist
>I-I'm totally left guiz
Zionist just means Jewish/Israeli Nationalist. You are not calling me anything terrible you know.
The retarded Arab loving left is the Israeli left now, anything else is irrelevant on the left.
And to think these are the people who wish to prosecute for "hate speech".
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This. We must keep this tumor under control and not let it grow.
sage
My analysis:
Europeans : Creators / Philosophers
Jews : Intellectuals / Materialists
Asians : Collectivists / Numericists
Tribes: Earthlings / Shaman
These are the roles best fit to each group in general.
>You're a bunch of beta males that pretend to care about the common man, but really you're just lazy retards that don't wanna commit to anything.
Go vote for Trump like a good little worker then. Nothing will change under a capitalist like him. Or Clinton.
There's no such thing as "israel".
Very anti-Semitic of you
BASED
Oh I'm sorry, do you need a safe space? Maybe a bottle too?
>private property is coercion
>literally having anything for yourself is bad
Sankara was great. No surprise France had him removed.
>There's no such thing as "israel".
Gonna need some proofs for that, pretty sure I have been living in it my entire life.
>he doesn't know the difference between personal property and private property
Read a fucking book.
I was into critical theory and that kind of stuff. The Frankfurt School. When you study the Frankfurt School and Adorno as a Marxist, you don't think of it as a conspiracy. Because ultimately, it really isn't. It's just a way of seeing the world and changing it with the mind and thinking clearly and rationally.
Where I split with the left was when I recognized that their inability to confront race and intelligence was a huge defection in their plan. It's horrid, and completely irrational. For that reason I realized that leftist communistic ideas result in a tendency to destroy freedom of thought, and this freedom is required for true human progress. Without liberty, the true idea of the Hegelian dialectic is completely obliterated. Hence all radical leftism basically contains within it its own contradiction, that it is against true progress.
There is no such thing as a Palestine or a Palestinian.
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Fuck off Jew. The modern left is just as fascist as actual fascists
the sensible left hates arabs and loves his country, but he doesn't want to occupy any territory because we gain nothing from it and lose so much all for the policing of these muhammeds
But we do helicopter rides
Congo would be holding the tech industry by their fucking balls if Sankara wasn't killed.
Can't wait for them to have a revolution
Personal property (things for your personal use) is fine.
Private property (absentee ownership, backed by the state, claimed by an individual which deprives others of the ownership of it, such as factories, farms, natural resources, infrastructure etc, used to generate profit) is not.
I like athletic/thin women.
That's good to hear, still don't want to send you $3 billion a year. To be fair, I also don't want to send your enemies cash.
>wikipedia says it's a conspiracy theory so you're wrong!
I don't think you get how conspiracy works at all, or maybe you do and you're not letting on.
>Have you met a lot of Communists? Where?
We're talking about the West, seeing as you're a Brit. I met them in college, I didn't meet them at work :^)
>military coupes happening in socialist shitholes
Yeah I don't really care, wanna talk about Venezuela?
>if the state owns everything resources can be more efficiently allocated. we already have more than enough food in stores to feed people, and plentiful farmlands. why would russian or north korean food shortages occur with our fertile lands?
False, the US tries doing this with a bunch of (((departments))) of the fed that have literally just turned into giant bureaucracy where everything gets down slowly and inefficiently while also doing things inaccurately.
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>holding the tech industry by their fucking balls
What does that even mean?
Don't worry. You're getting a batch of F-35's soon and if i know the IDF theyll rig them with crazy shit. If anyone is in danger of not existing its the fools who think they can take on Israel.
Not jewish or israeli in the slightest but Am Yisrael Chai regardless friendo!
> being a leftist
Mathematically debunked!
The Germans killed so many soviets its almost comical, don't mislead the masses with this shit.
what did he mean by this?
Will you define it then because that's all that I've found
>I met a lot of men in jail so that must mean all men are criminals
You mean the country with private property,capital accumulation and private ownership of the mop? Venezuela=neo liberalism
Why do you think Berniefags loved it so much?
kys kike
I shit on AnCaps all the time but I actually prefer them when compared to aut right
Cuck.
>wow people who are outnumbered tend to die in war
>clearly this has something to do with the way the government operates, and NOT the military
>you will NEVER get to massacre hundreds of commies like Simo Haya did because commies will never assume real power ever again
White mans burden!
I'm sorry I can't hear you over the sound of the entire German gene pool being filled with eastern cum
The problem with the territories is what happens when we withdraw, like with Gaza becoming run by Hamas who start things all the time, so if we withdrew from the West Bank who would take over it? I don't trust Arabs with democracy. Look at who Egypt elected until the military stepped in. Honestly I think the ideal situation would just be mass expulsion to the other Arab states but obviously it would be condemned internationally. It would finally settle the issue to rest once the Arabs in the area are gone.
iirc the money is part of the American military-industrial complex, Israel gets the money, but can only buy from American suppliers, so it acts as a stimulus for the US military suppliers. It is just a long winded transfer to their hands.
Thanks and I wish you the best.
leftists are also good killing their own people
So is Corbyn just a cuck place-holder?
Yeah is that why they lost almost every battle after Stalingrad?
Testosterone = right wing extremism
Leftism makes u think...
Conflict minerals
And yet Germans are still better looking than the trash left after "dude human waves lmao"
>also how do you explain the amount of revolutions going on right now then (Kurdistan,Nepal,Turkey,India ect)?
Also the NPA in the Philippines and the Mexican Zapatistas
>doesn't know Putin is pro mudslime inmigration
That doesn't explain a thing.
What do you mean?
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Did I say ALL communists? I was speaking from personal experience.
Here, let me lay it out:
All of the communists I've met were sheltered children, but that doesn't mean all communists were sheltered children.
All communists I've met were morons, AND all communists ever were morons.
Easy enough?
>the country that is more communist than yours (and all other countries that were more communist than yours) is a complete shithole. However, it isn't FULLY communist yet so haha you don't have an argument
Oh no my right safespace is being mildly threatened by one thread. Fuckin kikes and cucks
This guy was a true nationalist who fucking died from friendly fire because our buttfuck country can't train soldiers properly.
You're a fucking disgrace if you're using him to further your shitpost
Wew that's pretty fuckin retarded, friendo.
Think about what? Failure? Shared poverty? Asspain over being inferior?
>thinking Putin is a communist
>we're better than you because we're rapists
really makes you think
>buuu Stalin didn't killed anyone !
Holocaust is an Hoax
>BUUU HOW DARE YOU TO DENY THE HISTORY
also what is the Cheka
>thinking actual germany is nazi
>/leftypol/ in a nutshell
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leftism is the oldest meme in the world
>Nothing will change under a capitalist like him. Or Clinton
i would rather the status quo than a gulag
He's not perfect but if he keeps moving the debate and political tone left, good.
Pepe is a left wing symbol now
How? Pretty simple and resolves the issues of class stratification. The main goal of communism is the abolition of private property.
Daily reminder communist = deluded retards
Daily reminder capitalism won.
Will you define cultural marxism?
>All communists I've met were morons, AND all communists ever were morons.
NOT AN ARGUMENT
>more communist
>a thing
Have you actually read any marxist books? Venezula wasn't even socialist it was neo liberal/capitalist.
>America benefits from American imperialism
wow you're a smart one
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>wow you get pissed of when we deny a fact and a genocide that killed million of socialists
Are the reddit servers down or do you guys have any new arguments that don't devolve into you making yourselves seem like you're severely handicapped?
wew
Reserve your gulag cell now
>Daily reminder capitalism won.
Nope.
>he thinks killing socialists and communists is a "human" rights violation
Rubbing it in is really fun though.
Neo-Cons are leftist Trotskyites
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en.wikipedia.org
Also the definition of socialism is A political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
What is /pol's consensus on Stalin?
Communism is the future, just look at Venezuela or USSR
>live truly free and equal in a happy wonderland of hugs, kisses, and pure imagination
mhhhh capitalist freedom sure is good
>DINDU and mestizo mob violence against a single teenager
>celebrating it
Kys m8
sup bros
ready to take on the patriarchy and the racist and classist system of the Bourgeoisie??
Urinated all over the thread and spread shit upon all the frames.
>he says living in the era of greatest prosperity in all of history
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Mostly good, had a few flaws, but overall he made the USSR a superpower.
you think the first capitalist attempts succeeded? No. It took centuries for capitalism to finish off feudalism.
wow russians not wanting to admit one of their own leaders killed 60 million of his own people color me surprised
If I'm lucky enough, I'll get to watch dialectical materialism in action and laugh as these reactionaries are murdered by their own children
I'm here to fight in the revolution fellow leftists!!! We'll beat down those evil right wingers
personally i believe the best course of action stepped annexation. where you annex a small chunk of Yehuda and Shomron, each time with 100-500k muhammeds. force them to assimilate, wait 10 years. when they realize that israel is better than the shithole they live in, assimilate another 500k. wait 10 more years.
It's either that or leave Yehuda completely, which like you said will work out just like gaza. You can't give these arabs a country, because then they start להרגיש גברים and begin attacking you.
the best solution is forced assimilation, and have them be a minority class like blacks in america
lets destroy the world trying to do the real communism then
>tfw fascists think they get rights
American communists need to get the fuck out of this country.
>this is what communists actually believe
Hahaha wow so hows the USSR working out these days ?
Stalin veered from Lenin's path. Even towards death Lenin adopted more trot beliefs
Trot should've rose to power, Stalin was a fool
You forgot 'put the jews in power'
>he said without fear of being sent to a death camp
Might be a good strategy, but it would take a lot of effort to assimilate them.
You got me Britain. I'm just your average katana swinging, glen beck listening, neo-nazi weeaboo. I've never even considered reading communist texts and every had the agency to consider communism objectively. My views are entirely based on what's spoon fed to me through the Talmud Vision and other mass media. Please embiggen my lumpenprole worldview and extol upon me the virtues of communist society.
>only 61 posters
Good to know you guys are in the very small minority.
Stalin purged most of them, actually.
Capitalist Russia is doing a lot worse than the USSR. The people agree.
not before you get murdered by a pet dindu
Hahaha still doesnt change the fact it collapsed also
>Capitalist democracy 300 years
>socialist autocracy 70 years
really makes you think
You'd also have to quell the leftist international media storms that give Ahmed fuel to feel "oppressed" and start launching rockets
Question comrades:
Would you rather gulag 101 liberals or 100 reactionaries?
There's just 3 spewing stale communist memes
>Capitalist Russia is doing a lot worse than the USSR
youtube.com
lmfao, commies confirmed retarded.
and feudalism lasted 700 years. that's how long it takes society to develop and change the mode of production
wtf guess I'm a feudalist now
>muh proletariat
>muh bourgeoise
>"it's not identity politics guys!"
Don't act like you aren't guilty of it either.
>muh classes
>not identity politics
top kek
you need to fuck off where you come from cause you're making less and less sense.
Most leftsists have moved on to better discussion hubs, I come here to shitpost and screencap PURO IDEOLOGÍA
and capitalism was the natural outgrowth of feudalism meanwhile socialism has to be forced upon its population in order to get or stay in power also good luck with the 700 year long workers struggle comrade
AnCap vs alt-right vs fashy right vs right leaning centrist scum
Tell that to the Russians today, with no guaranteed employment or healthcare, suffering skyrocketing inflation, poverty wages and pensions.
Isn't it funny how Cred Forums actually managed to get mainstream recognition while bitchy circle jerks like rev left are a fart in the wind?
The idea that the dialectic process suddenly ends in a Communist society is retarded, but believing that total equality is desirable is even worse.
This be NatSoc thread now.
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A funny thing about alt-right and commies is that we both want a wall :^)
LOL
I have Russian family that grew up in the USSR, you're spewing bullshit. Even if its a shit country now, its not as shit as it was under Commie rule.
>capitalism was the natural outgrowth of feudalism
confirmed clueless for the origins of capitalism
nothing natural about it. read up about the forced enclosure of land in England or highland clearances. look at all the anti-capitalist movements that have arisen. look how the bourgeoisie seized power with guns in the French Revolution
There are legitimate reasons to believe the product shortages of the late 80's early 90's in USSR were purposefully organized in order to force the populace to demand rapid (((change))). This is a very delicate and complicated topic and it greatly offends me that a burger with chips-stained fingers starts posting maymays about this.
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Nice computer, where did you buy it from?
Bitchy liberal scum compose 90% of media outlets you misinformed fuck
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So you have conspiracy theories? Is that it?
I mean, its well documented how fucked up the USSR was, nothing had to be staged.
have a better gif
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Get off my lawn before I rev up the chopper, you fucking commies.
gay
Oh we don't get rights, we take them :^)
Yes, documented by well-respected (((authors))).
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Russia right now is literally Zimbabwe-tier. There's absolutely no comparison to USSR.
>thinking capitalism can exist without the state and force
top lel
Modern Commies aren't even strong enough physically, to succeed in a revolution in any 1st world country.
They're basically LARPing as some fucking burly Russian when in reality they look like this.
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1v1 me
Your AR vs my Mosin
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How do we seize the means of production and ensure we maintain it gomrades?
We don't win anymore. When do we win anymore at seizing the means of production? We just don't, folks. We just don't. Look, I'm telling you folks. Look, I'll tell you. We need to build a gulag and make the bourgeoisie pay for it!
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>muh gorillion innocent kulaks
Nice proof Alex
That's some hardcore strawmanning, how does that deflect the main point?
Yeah, look at these alpha specimens! Ubermensch
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Commies explain yourselves
is natsoc left wing?
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Hey caps, wanna hear a funny joke?
Just stop, you've probably never seen a gun, or ran more than a mile. Let's just be real, Larping as a 1940's grizzled Russian soldier is fun and all but thats not what you are. Your average Commie is a 5 foot chink or a 120 pound anorexic white college student.
read shit for brains. Cred Forums parades radical far right rhetoric around. CNN doesn't openly shill for marx dipshit. Radical leftist media outlets are uninteresting
Right wing isnt real
My grandad had a shotgun and I regularly go running and play football. Try again
I'm starting to see a lot of really fat ones too. I don't think twinkies are on the list of things the command economy is going to work on
Read Jacobin sometime.
ahuh, keep larping you beta fuck.
Strasserist here. Am I welcome?
LOL
Putin on Jews in the Soviet Union
youtu.be
Dr. Pierce on Allied/Soviet atrocities
youtu.be
The secret behind communism: Jewish influence
youtu.be
Liberals and communists aren't the same thing you inbred fuck.
You're no fucking different than liberal scum
Oh no, am I upsetting your little stereotypes? Better call me a redditor too.
Are you committed to abolishing private property? I know that Strasser wanted to work with the USSR right?
>implying Stalin did Jews any favors
>implying Israel isn't a capitalist settler colonial paradise
Huff paint harder you patsy
youtube.com
notice the gay faggots getting their shit stomped, and the leftist dweeb getting knocked the FUCK out by the nationalist?
Leftists outnumbered these people heavily, even came armed, still got their shit kicked in.
Hellstorm full documentary on Soviet atrocities
>Oh no, am I upsetting your little stereotypes? Better call me a redditor too.
I've never met a self called Commie that has engaged in physical activity or had weapons training of any kind. You're just a liar and an online LARPer.
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I don't think strasser's are even welcome by modern neo nazis, you're like the fashy antonym to Trotskyites
Stalins included because some say he's a crypto Jew but I would take that with a grain of salt, the rest however are Jews
Believe what you want to believe.
>Lenin
>Habermas
Just at a glance that pic is nonsense.
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Jesus christ you are actually illiterate. How are you not getting this. Read slowly: Of the far left/right media outlets that exist, pol is one of the few with any current significance
fuck off y'all ain't welcome here
Most pinkoshits don't even go through conscription. The workers are working and enjoying a greater quality of life than ever. All that's left are weak and feminine bourgeois cunts, of whom at least 50% are well within the SJW identity politics scene, or ganging up on innocent bystanders in protests.
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