I have an 8yo son, and tonight I showed him how to replace an optical drive in an xbox 360...

its totally possible that future generations will learn OP
the problem is that companies like apple design their products to be "one use" replacement parts are hard to obtain, expensive and the devices themselves are intentionally built to be annoying to fix/swap out parts.

OK I got you bro. Here's what you do:

-When your son first comes over, pat him on his back.
-Make sure to apply a nicotine patch to his back.
-When the rush kicks in, tell him redpilled things like "women are not equal to men" etc.
-He'll associate those things with pleasure.
-Make sure to reapply the nicotine patch throughout the visit.
-When he goes back home, he will associate his faggot mother with the "coming down" feeling and any pozzed shit she says too.

Go camping/fishing. Get him involved in boy scouts. Get him a book on how to survive in the wild. Do light exercise with him like 25-50 sit ups a day, 3 sets of 10 pushups, as many pullups as he can do. You should raise him to be a man but make sure hes having fun.

I think they'll know how to solder. I intend to teach my kids how to solder, if I have any. That's a basic skill that anybody should learn, really.

Teach your son:

- how to tie a necktie
- how to tie knots
- how to rotate car tires and do other car maintenance
- how to defend himself
- how to build a pc
- how to start a campfire
- how to behave at special events
- how to disagree with people but still respect them

For you

>Why does it seem like men are becoming so pussified?

Well for one, you're teaching them to rely on machines.

Get out there and chop some wood, faggot.

Anything by Jack Donovan.
Also look into Mark Rippetoe and Mark Animal MacYoung.
Men are becoming pussified to make life easier for people above centralizing power structures, ie, so less questions will be asked as our civilization is deliberately disassembled.

Best response. This is what I do with my children.

Sounds like you're doing a great job OP. Simply by including him in something and taking the time to explain it so he can understand is worth so much to a kid.

Keep it up.

Send him to the boy scouts. Just make sure to warn him about pedofaggotry first.

If you can find it, "The Boy Electrician" by Alfred P. Morgan is totally awesome. It shows how to make high-voltage devices of many types, how to make electric motors, batteries, etc. Even has a chapter "How To X-ray Your Sister". The home made x-ray machine is precious, check youtube and you'll see they're not that hard to make, terrifyingly enough. Another good one is "Electrostatic Experiments", though the name of the author escapes me. The great thing with these is they're from the early 1900's and you really can make all the stuff outta wire and spare parts. Fun for the whole family!

Have some faith in your own son, he can teach himself. He'll learn like everybody else, the hard way.

I'm sure your farther didn't spoon feed you.

>boy scouts.

More like faggot scouts.

>they will if they have a smart father who is present.

hope to have smart kids someday, I was always taking things appart, be civil e. now

>Is there any literature out there that gives techniques for dads raising boys as true men?

Introduce him to military history and theory early on. Strategic thinking is hard to acquire later in life if you've never had that way of thinking before. He has to understand that he's not helpless in the world and that apparent equilibriums of power are not as deterministic as they seem.

Will future electronics even be repairable?

Apple et al have shown that making your goods as difficult to repair as possible is a good market move. Do you think businesses will voluntarily slash their profits or are you hoping for governments to step in?

This. I wish my parents had taken me camping. My grandpa and I did a lot of fishing, though.

On second thought,

this guy's right. Everything important I know comes from my own research. My father's duty was just to give me an unfiltered Internet connection at an early age. Your son will naturally be curious about how human conflict works and he'll research these things on his own.

Don't be retarded, most of the things your son uses as he grows up will be intentionally hard to meddle with, both for repair service shekels and because using standard/interchangeable components etc actually is a problem when you're trying to make your small device even smaller

Are you kidding? Our current generation doesn't know how to solder. Why else do you think you got that xbox for free?

you shouldn't helicopter over your son too much. this may be an over exaggeration but it's something to think about when you find yourself in a similar scenario to this one.
in the long run worrying about these things will only raise your blood pressure. if you're concerned about your son then congrats your already doing your job and he'll probably grow up knowing more than most.
also, we've already gotten to the point where if we ever did need to be self reliant we would all be fucked anyway. food 4 thought

Dubs be damned, if we don't maintain our ability to override unfriendly features of our devices, we will become slaves unable to resist techno-overlords. Never give up the ability to control the functions of the machines you rely on to live, or you'll eventually be pushed to extinction.

>override unfriendly features
yeah good fucking luck without some special equipment and a genius level Chinese to work out the hack

you want your son to be a solder ? waht branch ?

There are some things you need to figure out for yourself.
This generation is fucked because they get their "premium iPhone, now more retard friendly" instead of a busted up GameCube or a broken speaker they need to fix before it can work.
Pussified parents just buy them whatever they want and they don't need to do shit, if it breaks , just buy a new one, no drive to fix it.
I learned soldering, electronics and other stuff myself, it's not even that hard in the first place. It's just that kids these days are too reatrded to have steady hands and too scared of getting burned while using a solder.
Also women. They're the reason everything is just like this right now, the biggest consumers and parasites. They never fix anything, don't have the "just make it work" mentality. The more they are in major positions in society, the more they'll spread their mentality.

your sun is a coonsole peasant google
yes, the "coon" is on purpose faggots

I wish my dad taught me how to solder. I asked him to buy me a multimeter one day when I was troubleshooting my non-starting car while stuck on the road and he was all like "why the fuck do you need that for? it's a waste of money".

I went on to explain the importance of the device for more than just the situation at hand but I doubt he heard a single word I said.

that's pretty manly

You're doing a goid job man. Just keep his curiosity fed and instill good values.

It's actually far easier to do electronic repairs than it has ever been, just google the right phrases and you'll get spoonfed the exact steps for your problem
Think of the time and energy saved from every owner having to figure out their own troubleshooting

This. Good luck soldering shit together when most modern appliances/ devices use field programmable gate arrays and SMD parts

Then again,, said technology will probably be totally antiquated by the time OP's kid grows up

This is the internet. You always have plenty of help to work out the hack. You just have to have the determination and basic technical skill to implement it.

The more technical we become, the more vital it is that we're able to keep the machines as our servants, not the reverse.

The generations fucked because kids are tought nothing about the real world, by their parents or schoolw, then kicked out of their parents because they expect them to havu a job, a house and be married as soon as they get out of highschool

It has nothing to do with i phones, thats just an excuse. YOU are the problem, YOU are the reason why kids have no hopes, dreams, or give two shits about their countries, YOU are the reason why these kids would rather leech then be productive emembers of society

This come home from work today girlfriend payed a mechanic $400 to fix a lock on a car.. I could have done that shit for nothing.. She broke her iphone screen the other day also asked how much it would be to fix was around $200 i went and bought a replacement screen on ebay for $10 and fixed it.

Its like they think the world would end if they don't get a "qualified" jew to fix it for them

Wouldn't you lose your warranty by doing that? I mean, it's nice that you tried to teach him some, but...
Not to mention that it's a 360, so it may break another day in the future.

This. OP is laying a nice fundamental framework for his son to build on.

youtube.com/watch?v=KnyB9btlhS8
Don't worry, just poke at it with a soldering iron, I'm sure it'll be fine

*something

This is why we have a pussy generation

youtu.be/2bGb5AOwp44?t=1m3s
Sure, I'll just grab my array of tiny product specific screwdrivers...

That's what I said. I didn't say kids magically get their iphones, their shitty parents buy it for them.
You just really sounded like an (((apple))) fanboy for some reason.

Also
>implying kids want to be taught these days
>implying kids these days aren't busy making silly faces and chatting with strangers on the internet retweeting progressive movements and reading reliable news on buzzfeed

The world has changed burgerbro, and we're witnessing it in its final moments.

Buy him a BB gun

I would rather leave electronics to an expert.

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when you're doing home repair make sure your son is helping you. Its bonding time, it teaches him shit and gives him self satisfaction

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They sell an AWESOME set of product specific screwdrivers at Tractor Supply Company for 5 bucks in the chinese wonder-tool bins. I swear by 'em. Open anything from a Radar Range door to a Ryobi battery pack to changing the battery in a McDonald's happy meal toy.

And anything that won't do, is available cheap on Ebay.

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>i'd rather tear my own dick off.
Stream it, faggot

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Way of Men, Shop Class as Soul Craft. Also 10 Stupid Things Men do to Mess up their lives. Dr Laura is pretty based btw.

>not filing down your own screwdrivers

>more like cis e.

King, Magician, Warrior, Lover is a good one to look at on this subject. It kind of helped me stop being a pussy.

Necktie
Only a Windsor knot will do

Technology is really increasing at a logarithmic rate. It's supposed to be quadratic, but the elite do not want the masses to have technologies.
They barely want us to have loom, but that is just enough for us to survive the wolves, I guess.

Holy shit you are the biggest faggot sounding dad I've ever seen

Yeah good goy , I'm sure (((experts))) will tighten that screw and solder that one loose wire better than you, please pay up 200$ now yes.

agreed. wise user is wise

Either it's going to take a long time or they'll be shitty screwdrivers, cunt
I don't run my own tools production line in my shed

How will you raise your son to not be a liar like you? As if an X360 optical drive requires soldering and not a drive key.

>here son, warm up solder iron
>touch board with iron
>touch board with solder
>let go
It's that easy.

At least I wouldn't lose the warranty.

AKA your standard knot. If you want to stand out, you go with something like a pratt or a full windsor.

I think he meant that he replaced the failed laser-sled mechanical deck and used the OEM circuit board.

There are thousands of books, start reading!

>he bought the warranty

The low-quality dubs in this thread must be infuriating Lord Kek. Since the machine was free, it's safe to assume that THE WARRANTY WAS EXPIRED ALREADY.

>WUZ

Part of it is just economics though. Ita more efficient for socirty to have us all hyper specialize and then pay money to solve problems than to teach everyone novice level automotive / plumbing etc skills

Also in many cases my time is worth more than how long it would take to fix a thing , i make about 48 an hour after taxes - it isnt even worth my time to google price variance on most household good including basic appliances vs just searhig amazon and clicking and boom in 48 hours the problem is solved and at my doorstep

>Do light exercise with him like 25-50 sit ups a day, 3 sets of 10 pushups, as many pullups as he can do

How the fuck is that light exercise for a god damn 8 year old.

I agree with what you're saying but Jesus fucking Christ your son is going hate you.

BACK IN MY DAY, I HAD TO PAY FOR PORNO

These kids are so cucked. Can they even go to the bookstore, stare the clerk in the eye, smile, and ask for the latest Hustler?

Why are this boys so pussified?

no they are raised with one button easy to use devices

theres no troubleshooting required or anything

>no troubleshooting required
quite the opposite, rather than just telling you what's wrong the little shits refuse to disclose what the problem might be

Ah, then there is nothing to lose.

Kids can do way more push-ups and pullups you dumbass

Also,
>implying kid will hate his parents for making him be the best physical version of himself

just show him a few zyzz videos or something and he'll be dying to be a sick kunt. Guaranteed.

Well I wouldn't go that far, your dad should provide a guiding hand but sitting him down like OP and...

right son this is how your solder
right son this is how you change a tyre
right son this is how you wipe your arse...

is just going to bounce off him.

One day he'll get a car and then if he needs help and he can't figure it out himself he'll come to you not his mother.

You'd be better off just enjoying your time together and making your time with him sick as a fond memory.

IMO the high wealth encourages people to just throw away and buy new rather than "waste time"

western countries are like spoiled kids in this regard

I'd like to add:

Social:
Basics for formal dress, Tuxedo/ black tie rules, Business "casual" is a term for Business failure.

Employment:
Supply and Demand, Basics of selling ("Sell me this pen." would probably work for children), standard negotiating practices.

Hobbies:
Video gaming (NO!), fire arms training, scouting, hiking, camping, DIY projects.

practical knowledge:
Breaks, Tire rod, wiring, bearing replacement, tire replacement, shock replacement, fluid changes.

Prospects for a future:
Electrical assembly, portable languages, Java or C# and .Net will do they can all be cross-compiled, never tie yourself a social media account, never use vulnerable services, maintain secrecy in all things "trust but verify..", how to find a partner (this will be hard because you're divorced, but in either case use this as an example, show him why pre-nups are important.)

When get turns of age, make sure he can drive a manual, and get him to sign up for national guard.

That is easy for an 8 year old, it's when you get older and heavier than body weight exercises can no longer be pumped out without effort

It's a book that explores male psychology and what it takes for a boy to transition into a man. It's derived from Jungian and Freudian schools of thought. Your concerns about the skills your son has or doesn't have falls into the Magician portion of Male psychology. I can't really do it justice in a Cred Forums post but you really should check it out. It might provide some insight on how to bring up your boy to be a man and not just a boy in a man's body as so many males are in today's world. You're a good dad for even being concerned though, that's more than my dad even did.

proximity and repetition is how it works

Jesus christ you bitch. That's a light exercise and an EXTREMELY light exercise for those with excessive energy like an eight year old.

>Tuxedo/ black tie rules
Where on earth do you live that people might wear a tuxedo more than once or twice in their lives, if that?

>- how to start a campfire
Not with acetone. The acetone will burn before the wood considers lighting up.

You have to force your kid to do chores like in olden times. Make sure to whoop his ass when he fucks up.

This will teach him to fix cars.

Don't do this. It makes ionizing gas.

>tfw barely any discipline growing up because I almost died as a toddler

Now I'm 23 and have no HS diploma no skills of any kind and no motivation to actually do something. Every time I've tried I've lost interest in a few days.

It's hard to undo >20 years of enabled laziness.

If your kid isn't an ozone addict by age 10, you're doing it wrong.

Idk, go hunting or fishing?

>BACK IN MY DAY, I HAD TO PAY FOR PORNO
THAT'S NOTHING! I WAS BLESSED WITH FINDING MY FIRST FETISH IN SIXTH GRADE IN 1989! THEN IT WAS AN ENDLESS QUEST FOR THE GOOD STUFF!

Depends on what the kids are exposed to. If you provide them a platform that encourages tinkering (build a desktop over a console) then they'll be more inclined to tinker. If they are exposed to things that are booby-trapped then they'll likely stop tinkering when they break something (360 isn't really booby-trapped, but plastic housing / hidden clips and DVD/Motherboard Key pair requirement may sour their experience).

When I was a kid I loved all that shit. Didn't do it with my dad though. I just lived out in the country and my parents let me have my time to run around the woods being wild and free with a knife and a bb gun in case of sneks or wild dogs. Building forts/clubhouses, making weapons, eating honeysuckle nectar, getting scared, being brave, getting hurt, crying, realizing crying doesn't help solve anything, all that shit boys just need to do to be fulfilled and develop, its in our DNA. Didn't even need my Dad's participation, just the right environment and freedom.

dont bake short cakes egg and sugar

it will destroy london

>Where on earth do you live that people might wear a tuxedo more than once or twice in their lives, if that?

It might seem odd but sometimes for business engagements and work events, people do indeed wear a tuxedo more than once. I know that's of no use down under, but it's useful to anyone that wants to actively do something in society. I've had to wear one 4 times this year just for Corporate events.

>Fetish
>Sixth Grade
>Sweden

Why am I not surprised?

> Fixed up 360
What the fuck?
You should have just built a PC from parts

>mind controlling your son through chemical manipulation