Red pill me on Northern Ireland

Naturally I take the side of the Loyalists since they are the descendants of British colonists - the same as New Zealanders.

But red pill me on who the fuck the good guys actually are. From what Ive read, the IRA are a bunch of terrorist scum. Keen to hear some insights.

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Loyalist - Smash the IRA
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im with the republic even though im a englander.
Weve treated them like shit throughout history and rub it in their face with taxes...
thats pretty much englands whole history now that i think about it

England gives N. Ireland net 11 billion. Huge amount.

>be irish
>hate England
>move there anyway

Northern Ireland here, you are correct, IRA are terrorist scum. Fuck Catholics in the north, literal "WE WUZ KANGZ" dindus these days.

Kill yourself cuck

Loyakist scum needs to GTFO of Ireland. You black and tans have been terrorizing our people for hundreds of years

I'm with the unionists, obviously, every self respecting brit is.

Basically the catholics and IRA want to force norn iron to join the ROI against it's people's wishes, the IRA is also sponsored by the ROI and several of it's leaders became influential irish politicians by waging a campaign of terror on britain. Gerry adams and martin mcguinnes were leaders in the IRA and murdered lots of people, gerry adams is now president of sinn fein and matin mcguinness was the first minister of Norn iron. The good friday agreement basically capitulated to the IRA and let the IRA leaders become politicans in norn iron without the people's say. All IRA leaders got away with what they did and the northern irish don't want republicans but have them forced on them.

You're an american lad, fuck off out of the conversation you haven't a clue what it's like in norn iron. You're as irish as barrack obama

>be British
>hate Ireland
>move there anyway

youtube.com/watch?v=8zSWlAHD29M

>go on a tour of dublin
>literally everything is "the british built this in X, the british built this in Y"
>Everything is dirty
>trash and graffiti everywhere
>all the people are chinks or pakis
shithole.

This. I'm not obsessed with the past, but it would just be better for England if there were a united Ireland

NI are the cucks, we starved them, took them as slaves and still want to be our bitch

Yeah dude, the people who had their country invaded and fought to take it back are definitely the bad guys

>literally everything is "the british built this in X, the british built this in Y"
typically micks are no better than niggers

I used to be pro IRA but they're too mixed in with open borders socialist lefty bollocks. I'd like Unionists more if they could focus on Pakis and nogs.

I have barely met that many brits here, but they are welcome here.

oh but they are

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I like my Brits how I like my tits.

Out.

There are 1.81 million brits in northern ireland how have you not met any?

>Naturally I take the side of the Loyalists since they are the descendants of British colonists - the same as New Zealanders.

Naturally I take the side of the Loyalists since they are the descendants of British colonists - the same as New Zealanders.

no they arent, they're the descendant of retarded scots who were a bit of a rabble apparently.

there were some english too though

Pretty much this.

so you are against every single white colonialist people

And scots are british, so what he said is right.

Any that invaded other whites, sure.

Nobody cares about shitskins.

NI is a regressive backwards shithole thanks to the embarrassment to the UK that is "loyalists". Parading around every year about some battle hundreds of years ago that a dutch king won. England is very multicultural now and its embarrassing to see Prods not be able to get along with native Catholics because muh religion. Two cultures can't coexist meanwhile in England we have loads of different ones and no one is too bothered except by some of the Muslims.

I meant most of Ulster. NI is still Ireland even if its in the UK.

>talking shit about Dublin when white Brits are a literal minority in London

Kek

So you agree that the northern irish fighting agains thte IRA are the good guys then? Seeing as they are fighting against invaders trying to claim their land.

yeah but he implied they were badass conolists, they were retarded puppets of the big wigs

could be reading too much into what he was saying

anyway the whole northern irish shit is a fucking clusterfuck, an unfortunate accident of history, what are you gonna do tho

>scots
>english too

>no they arent

what the hell sort of race do you think we are in nz

t. Ahmed

colonists i meant

>other whites
good joke m8 you probably defend the boers too

I think you have things a little mixed up here, pal.

>anyway the whole northern irish shit is a fucking clusterfuck
Actually it's not. The irish who want to remain with britain remained, the irish who wanted to leave, left.

The clusterfuck is when the IRA started bombing northern ireland backed by the ROI because they wanted to grab land.

youtu.be/r_NXdj3MaFk

kill urself my man

Ireland should be whole and independent.

Scotland should be independent.

England should just focus on not being turned into Englanistan.

then what the hell happens to the colonies

>Partition of ireland in 1922
>everyone is happy
>oh except the IRA who decide that northern ireland has to join the ROI against it's will
>ROI backs IRA
>IRA starts terror campaign against norn iron
By your "the defenders are always right" argument, the IRA are the bad guys, they started all this.

they were backed by a few irish politicians who saw the shitty way catholics were being treated,most southern politicians hate the ira.


what the feck do you mean the irish who wanted to leave, left? most nationalists stayed put albeit there was a lot of emigration prior to the troubles due to the aforementioned discrimination

Holy shit, why are there so many faggots in this thread?

We'll feed you to the aussies and sell Canada to the US

Turbocucks that go all like 'BRITS OUT REFUGEES IN'

and what hand over the falklands to argentina and gibraltar to spain

>muh 98% white NI
>meanwhile 3 million muslims in Britain

When will NI embrace the multiculturalist progressivism that defines the rest of the UK. This racism will not do.

Sell them to Israel

>what the feck do you mean the irish who wanted to leave, left?
There's this thing called the republic of Ireland, it consist of the counties who wanted to leave the UK, I'm surprised you haven't heard of it.

>feck

This.

It really is a confusing mixture of factors, Britain had many opportunities throughout history to keep Ireland under the United Kingdom through small concessions. Trouble is we had a stupid bunch of toffs with a superiority complex running the country. They increased taxes and enacted laws or took brutal measures which hardened the population against them.

most southern irish don't venture north of the border,it's rough as fuck up there, and you don't know who to trust as they all sound the same.

T.Sligopath living in Manchester

No, we row the rock of gibraltar over to the falklands and turn the two into a massive theme park

The Anglo started it with the Ulster plantations by moving loads of English into Ulster.

The ira are a bunch of fucking dirty communist terrorists and all of them should be hung

I know I posted this but fuck me I laugh every time.

You dirty smelly fenian rebel loving fucker.

no you made a really dumb point that has nothing to do with the republic

Shut up plastic pad your a yank deal with it

>most southern irish don't venture north of the border,it's rough as fuck up there
I had the opposite experience, Belfast was incredibly clean, quiet and friendly. Dublinistan was a dirty claustrophobic shithole full of roadworks and """"""refugees"""""""

The impression I get as a neutral is that the Protestants are Irn Bru drinking, battered mars bar eating, heroin injecting cucks with a Stockholm syndrome complex in their submission to England.

Meanwhile the Catholics are proper people with a solid identity fighting for a good cause.

But then again I cant stand either Celtic or Rangers fans and wish they'd all disappear from the planet. Those are my thoughts on the matter.

>what is colonization of inferior races

the catholics stilll predominate in all the nice places if that's any consolation

>Brits move to a different area of britain
MUH INVASUN

That's not very nice ye black hallion

I'd love a boojum right now though.

Whys are Taigs so butthurt desu

Thought no replies were coming in so I abandoned the thread, lol good to see some insight.

NZ'ers weren't necessarily bad ass colonists. Only bad ass thing was hopping on a ship and traveling half way round the world hoping not to die. Apart from that, it was pretty similar to the British settlement of NI.

I like the IRA but I don't like how they liken themselves to the blacks and civil rights movements in America.

>someone from new zealand pretending to know shit

it was colonised by rabble from the border regions of scotland mainly, not well to do english types

Used to have to walk past the mural every morning heading into work. Linfeild Road industrial estate ftw.

They changed it a few years ago.

No thanks, Mohammad. I'm very much enjoying watching the enrichment the mudslimes are bringing to England, without having to experience it firsthand

No.

>tips guy fawkes mask

Which "side" resorted to shitposting first in this thread?

Protip: Not the fenians

Boojum is disgusting, kys

>I like the IRA
MUH HERITAGE

youtube.com/watch?v=FvMwbqVNFq8

Speak for yourself mate.

They existed before muh MLK though. Ireland have been fighting British tyranny before nigs were even in the USA. I did see the BBC try to make that link in an article though and cringed.

Catholics - of which I am one:
>We're oppressed and shit, get outta' my country.
consists of youth who never were alive in the Troubles and who loiter and write graffiti on the walls. And old tired men mulling over 'The Old days', listening to depressing rebel songs that talk about how oppressed we are while drinking in some IRA bar all day.

Loyalists:
>Savages, prone to violence for no real reason, Loyal to a tee...in a fucking embarrassing way; willingly fly Kike flags to counteract Republicans flying Muslim flags. It's gay as fuck. See themselves as British, despite not being in Britain although many prods I know see themselves as 'Northern Irish'

Both sides/communities are full of retards, has-beens, gangsters, hypocritically so, and all round, we are the Niggers of Europe, we really are. Our youth are violent, savage, drink and fuck young, the women are slags the men retarded and drug addled. We are a country of NIGGERS.

There's nothing worse than encountering a republican or Loyalist with a persecution complex, I imagine it's what an American encountering a 'We WUZ' nigger is like.

I used to be An Irish nationalist, but then I realized they were in league with Muslims, South American commies and basically, anyone who is 'oppressed'. The Nationalise Irish literally operate on: The enemy of my enemy is my friend. It's retarded and sad. Full of Marxists too ironically:
>NO ONE IS ILLEGAL REFUGEES WELCOME
>But also an Irish 'Nationalist' who wants a free Ireland for the Irish.

We're retarded. Glass us.

>not well to do english types
their are almost to such things as upper class colonists

I know very little about the intricacies of the conflict but I have to say that the Provos make much better music.
youtube.com/watch?v=nHY14OVk7r0

IRA are literally dindus.

I actually haven't, mate. Never been up there.

>Both sides/communities are full of retards, has-beens, gangsters, hypocritically so, and all round, we are the Niggers of Europe, we really are. Our youth are violent, savage, drink and fuck young, the women are slags the men retarded and drug addled. We are a country of NIGGERS.


lol where the fuck do you live, the shankill?

It basically all comes down to dumb chavs.

Nobody actually fucking cares if you are Irish/British, catholic/prtoestant but low IQ chav scum

Irish nationalists in a nutshell
>IRELAND IS FOR THE IRISH!
>WAIT I MEAN IRELAND IS FOR THE PAKISTANIS AND NIGGERS AND INDIANS AND ANYONE WHO ISNT WHITE!!

Utter nonsense. Just because your ancestors were taken to a Penal Colony doesn't mean mine or anyone else were. The average bloke living in Londons East End or Glasgow slum had NO MONEY for farms in NZ. My family comes from well to do English land owning class that bought land. You're just talking shit.

Good goy, we are all equal

>English land owning class that bought land.
are you still made that King Dick smashed up smashed up your estate

Hey. Hey. Schemes. We call them schemes in Glasgow.

Sir Charles Trevelyan, British Government administrator of famine relief described it as a "mechanism for reducing surplus population" and said: "The judgement of God sent the calamity to teach the Irish a lesson, that calamity must not be too much mitigated. The real evil with which we have to contend is not the physical evil of the Famine, but the moral evil of the selfish, perverse and turbulent character of the people."

A Trevelyan letter to Edward Twisleton, Chief Poor Law Commissioner in Ireland, contains the censorious, "We must not complain of what we really want to obtain. If small farmers go, and their landlords are reduced to sell portions of their estates to persons who will invest capital we shall at last arrive at something like a satisfactory settlement of the country".

Brits have consistently tried to wipe us from this land. How exactly someone could advocate for ethnically homogeneous homelands, whilst supporting any regime that has attempted to wipe out a people for their own gain?

The anger felt by many Irish people over northern Ireland is that it is the remnant of this policy of viewing our land as another colony to be planted and settled by a foreign people under the guidance of a foreign power.

The modern IRA is a meme, but loyalists represent an abhorrent sort of entitlement, one that threatened our very existence. They march deliberately to lord over catholic communities of victories that happened 400 years previous. Its kind of sad.

Imagine having a culture that's so artificial, so vindictive, that its based on glorifying the attempted genocide of the white natives of a land. This is loyalism.

>inb4 potato memes

i dont care
fuck british faggots

No? My family still owns land, quite a bit. I think you're just butthurt that your ancestors were low class steerage.

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>WAIT I MEAN IRELAND IS FOR THE PAKISTANIS AND NIGGERS AND INDIANS AND ANYONE WHO ISNT WHITE!!

No, that's Britain judging by Westminster policy. Do Prodtards even realise the DUP don't exist outside of their little bubble? Elsewhere British politicians are 'tolerant' and 'diverse' as can be. Bar maybe UKIP who have no power.

mate my ancestors actually fought the maoris and did not just snatch up land

If you're so sure that catholicism is right why did God send you that famine?

Seems to me he is punishing the heretics.

No he's right.

Pic related is what awaits you across the northern border. Smelly subhumans fighting among themselves.

Northern Ireland is an irredeemable shit hole that would be a third world country if it wasn't sponging off England.
Cred Forums seems to think it's great because le ebin they hate muslims maymay. In reality they're degenerate chavs who burn out poles.

Btw IRA are open borders Marxist "Muh fuck the british".

Not only did they die for nothing (gave all their sovereignty to the EU like good little cucks) but they also support "oppressed" mudslimes around the world.

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My family didn't snatch up anything. Nor did they kill any natives like yours did. They bought land like civilised people.

Say it!

I respoct the IRA. They're were much like the early colonists who rebelled against the British here.

How could the "IRA" sell out to Europe when they have never been elected?

God sent the potato blight, the British sent the famine.

>Nor did they kill any natives like yours did
>They bought land like civilised people.

without mine there would not even be any land to buy

Because they were canvassing steady the weeks before the Referendum saying we're better in Europe and sheit.

So much for national self determination, kek.

how about grow something other than potatoes

>Partition of ireland in 1922
>everyone is happy

Is that what they teach you?

No, they're really not.

>muh taxes
vs
>invasion by Cromwell
>muh famine
Not alike at all. I love the romanticism though, it's really quite amazing.

Kill Yourself.

Because Sinn Fein supports the EU. And all the IRA vote Sinn Fein.

There's no red pill to be had when it comes to northern Ireland.

Just a bunch of drunk degenerate potato niggers blowing shit up for no reason.

What do you think the ports were for?

>Almost 4,000 vessels carried food from Ireland to the ports of Bristol, Glasgow, Liverpool, and London during 1847, when 400,000 Irish men, women, and children died of starvation and related diseases. She also writes that Irish exports of calves, livestock (except pigs), bacon, and ham actually increased during the Famine. This food was shipped under British military guard from the most famine-stricken parts of Ireland; Ballina, Ballyshannon, Bantry, Dingle, Killala, Kilrush, Limerick, Sligo, Tralee, and Westport. A wide variety of commodities left Ireland during 1847, including peas, beans, onions, rabbits, salmon, oysters, herring, lard, honey, tongues, animal skins, rags, shoes, soap, glue, and seed. The most shocking export figures concern butter. Butter was shipped in firkins, each one holding 9 imperial gallons; 41 litres. In the first nine months of 1847, 56,557 firkins (509,010 imperial gallons; 2,314,000 litres) were exported from Ireland to Bristol, and 34,852 firkins (313,670 imperial gallons; 1,426,000 litres) were shipped to Liverpool, which correlates with 822,681 imperial gallons (3,739,980 litres) of butter exported to England from Ireland during nine months of the worst year of the Famine.[80] The problem in Ireland was not lack of food, which was plentiful, but the price of it, which was beyond the reach of the poor.[

No they don't. The IRA and republicans in general see the Sinners as sellouts.

Look at any facebook republican page.

m8 we were exporting food to Britain during the famine, the ports were fortified by the British military.

The way land was divided meant the only food that the peasant class could grow to feed their family were potatoes.

ITT; British autists trying to trigger us

A lot of Irish seem to ignore the fishmongers, Irish fishmongers by the way, who let their own starve because they couldn't afford to buy the fish so they shipped it to England where it was able to be bought.

It's too late nigel
it was always too late

The Irish are pathetic Catholicucks who we bail out, out of pity. They need to be put under the crown again.

The Irish literally died while England was experiencing its largest population boom in it's history due to cheap food

Fine. Most of them.

>4000 vessels export food under arms from ports held by British soldiers

>"But what about the fishmongers"

Anglo tricks once again

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_Potato_Famine

Bit busy with our own famine tbqh, maybe the corrupt, clan mentality from the Irish put in charge of lands should have done something.

We can't watch Ireland 24/7, they want independence that means having your own governors that do some work, I know work is hard but if you don't work? You die of famine, it's truly upsetting.

But Timmy Smith al Cromwell.

You are an Anglo.

There are absolutely tonnes of English people in Northern Ireland now. Even loads living in former IRA strongholds like Newry.

A majority seem to be from the north of England. I wonder how many moved here to escape the cultural enrichment that Jamal and Mehmet have brought to places like Bradford and Oldham.

>IRA
>Anything more than glorified drugdealers and tracksuit wearing scumbags

NI is fucked, no one wants it apart from the kind of eireniggers who scream and shout about muh heritage and muh nationalism, likewise only the vocal proddies who wear orange boxers care enough to throw rocks over it. It's a financial blackhole that's always going to be a point of contention, why would we want it? The Brexit vote shows NI is more like Scotland than Britain anyways, just give it to them.

Fuck off Clinton

Ciúinis sasanach

To any cucked Burgers or Yuropoors in the thread, I just want to remind you that the Unionists have literal RWDS who routinely burn sandniggers out of their homes while the (((Irish Nationalists))) welcome foreign invaders with open arms.

I'm not an enemy of Irish people, but reunification can never happen until (((they))) and their republican associates are driven out.

>the Irish in charge of lands

the Irish were working the land like slaves they didn't own it except small patches of the worst land which could only grow potatos which is why they were forced to rely on it.

>fishmongers

Are you ignoring all the ports around the coast guarded by military?

this desu

Has to be a pretty shitty place though for it to be 98% white. The non whites go to the good areas, clearly theres something wrong with Northern Ireland.

>more like Scotland than Britain

Scotland and Ulster will always be British my potato friend. Just look how these proud men of Ulster parade before the Queen.

youtube.com/watch?v=zAJskH_AWv4

Great Britain is the island. So the English, Scots and Welsh are all British.

Up, up, up the IRA.

fuck off yank cunt

>You're as irish as barrack obama

s-s-s-s-h-h-h-i-i-i-e-e-e-t-t-t dat google is from kenya.,

How come Yank faggots always support the potato niggers?

Dumb limey, it's tyranny. I support the IRA free freedom fighters. Fuck GB.

are all Skrewdriver songs poorly produced and overall garbage?

The real question is why are Loyalists so shit at murals? Republican ones look decent, Loyalist ones look like those African MSPaint-tier regional flags.

Nah mate they're fuckin awesome.

youtube.com/watch?v=z6Tyv2PqzlI

very related:

this is one of the best speeches i've ever heard. Robert Emmet's speech before his execution:

youtube.com/watch?v=U4i8Qn5lGis

A parasitical leech that does nothing but create problems. We had the Troubles where everyone was a terrorist in it (Nationalists/ Republicans, Unionists/ Loyalists and the British Government) and the people involved avoid truth commissions as they know how guilty they all are.

A cesspit of utter misery, avoid at all costs.

>>talking shit about Dublin when white Brits are a literal minority in London
this. a fookin muslim mayor who hates white Britannia.

>what the hell sort of race do you think we are in nz
escaped penal colonists from abo-ville.

There are no 'good guys' there.

Bunch of gangsters.

>A cesspit of utter misery, avoid at all costs.
Agree

This. Nuke the whole thing from orbit.

Daily reminder that a potato famine took out a good chunk of the population

on an island surrounded by fish

I think Irish are the problem. Always playing the victim and acting like niggers. Even in NZ you meet a white Kiwi and he hates the flag, turns out he's actually a potato nigger Kiwi. Trouble makers.

Thats any city in europe at the moment

> From what Ive read, the IRA are a bunch of terrorist scum

Religion fucking everything up as usual.

I never could wrap my head around that. How did these people make it this far?

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I hate these threads, 50% newfags 50% shitposting .

rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/famfish.html

Ireland was covered by trees many years ago, but was cut down to make way for many farms. Said trees were also plundered to build ships for the royal navy and use over Britain.

Who gives a shit? Irish niggers should have been taxes 110% every single Irish nigger should have been used as a slave! there is no reason in keeping the irish niggers as anything but a work animal. They're stupid, half evolved, violent creatures. Ireland belongs to the Anglos

i don't see how trying to get past in-house white division is shilling for jews.