High tier master race

reaganomics and the free market is what turned america into a 3rd world country and a proto-india

youtube.com/watch?v=ZdCNGkZoIZw

the death of the unions thanks to the jewish capitalist elite, the influx of immigration thanks to the capitalist jew elite, and the fact crippling income inequality and american productivity going way up while wages going down is all thanks to the capitalist jew elite.

do not fall for this stupid "free market will fix it all, muh liberty" meme ideologically bankrupt garbage.

>do not fall for this stupid "free market will fix it all, muh liberty" meme ideologically bankrupt garbage.

the Third Way aka Social Market Economy is the way to go. No need to go to extremes.

Have a look at support by income.

>thinking liberal arts degrees makes you god ti- oh hHAHAHAH it's a FUCKING LEAF

you are an idiot, you must be one of those people during feudal times saying "there HAS TO BE SLAVES BECAUSE HUMAN NATURE MADE SOME PEOPLE SERFS AND OTHERS LORDS"

also actual anti-capitalist governments have been successful (china being communist took the most people out of poverty in human history with strong nationalism, russia went from a war torn hell hole to space faring super power)
sure some attempts at early early anti-capitalism have been failures but this is normal since the movement is still fresh

youtube.com/watch?v=6P97r9Ci5Kg

Go move to China and enjoy your communism.
> also, inhale smog

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go move to somalia and enjoy your libertarianism

also, inhale smog

Not an argument

Right now China is capitalist

China has a strong economy now because Deng Xiaoping decided to stop following Maos approach and started implementing market principles. Mao ruined the country and when he died everyone cheered. Socialism in China is dead. It's nothing but a heavily regulated market economy nowadays.

Russia is fucked. The Soviet Union collapsed because it was dirt poor. They spend every penny they got on the military. Their people were starving. People cheered when my mother brought a coke can to the GDR. They worshipped western products and exhibited them like art objects.

You're a delusional armchair revolutionary.

>Communism in China lifted people out of poverty
What is this, opposite day? You're a retard.
>Space-faring superpower
With some of the worst standards of living on Earth and eventually complete economic collapse.

Why so if communism is soooo superior?

URAAA COMRADE!!

Post your best Soviet Communist music:
youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs

Daily reminder that the USSR and allies were far less degenerate than the western "democracies" of today

>islam would not be tolerated
>anti materialistic
>harsh punishments for criminals
>much of the degenracy accepted today was forbidden and dealt with harshly (no fags no drugs no cucks no racemix etc)

Libertarian, me?
no-no

>With some of the worst standards of living on Earth

for the shit tier elements of society as it should be

Remember that the population of china is so huge that their equivalent to niggers is 5x our population.

thats basically 10m cities filled with nigger-tier low iq scale trash

>mao ruined the country and when he died everyone cheered

source.

also once again: COMMUNISM IN CHINA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR TAKING THE MOST PEOPLE OUT OF POVERTY IN THE ENTIRITY OF HUMAN HISTORY IN THE SHORTEST AMOUNT OF POSSIBLE TIME. CHINA IS BUTTFUCKING THE WEST RIGHT NOW. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PROBLEMS AND ARE REVERTING TO A SLIGHTLY LESS EXPLOITATIVE SOCIALIST LEANING STATE CAPITALIST COUNTRY SO ITS ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE BUT IN THE END YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT COMMUNISM HAS DONE FOR CHINA AND WHAT IT HAS DONE FOR RUSSIA. TO EVEN REMOTELY THINK THOSE TWO COUNTRIES TURNING INTO SUPER POWERS WASN'T BECAUSE OF NATIONALIST COMMUNISM MAKES YOU A DELUDED RETARDED

USSRs problem was Gorbachev, Yeltsin and allowing freedom of materialism and degeneracy.

Compare the USSR to "le tolerant and progressive current year :DDD"

The ONLY thing the USSR was lacking is cheap wasteful planned obsolescence material pleasures

The 'natural order' is a hierarchical society. So it is, so it's always been. You don't think we dropped the idea of alpha male as soon as we came down from the trees? Only with some level of understanding and acceptance of this order can we progress.

you're like 15 years old. fuck off you stupid kid

>hurr retard
not an argument

also our system has ACTUALLY ECONOMICALLY COLLAPSED multiple fucking times and is held together by phony shit like credit and fake jobs that don't produce anything but are just there to keep people "working" while a major percent of the population has absolutely nothing to do and isn't producing anything for society because of a lack of actual jobs.

you know you should actually do some reading about just how destructive and self deprecating neoliberal capitalism is instead of just spewing ignorant jew propoganda, we will never get to star trek society with morons like you

webm.land/media/00Jf.webm

not to mention alcoholism. No idea why they started to relax on that policy.

People travelling to Moscow in the late 80s said drunks were fucking everywhere. It was ruining the country.

Pathetic commie. Sage

bitch i have a masters degree in economics and i'm 25, how about you fuck off and actually read a fucking book for once you stupid asshole

here, educate yourself by getting an entry level understanding of the thing it is you "hate so much" even though you've never read a book in your life youtube.com/watch?v=6P97r9Ci5Kg

not an argument

The Chinese economy was pretty much stagnant until Deng started market reforms.

In 1976, Argentina had a larger GDP than China.

All Mao did was unify the country under one banner - if he had died in 1955 his legacy would have been a great one if Deng had started in 1955.

You're misreading the graphic. The Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 AFTER the crash which you can see in the graphic. You should show a graphic which shows the development afet it became capitalist.

Deng brougth China prosperity. Under Mao it was one of the poorest third world countries. Now they have iPhones, cars and skyscrapers. Fuck Capitalism, sure...

communism vs devious little "capitalist democracy"

>all mao did was unify china
see image:

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That image totally leaves out the years of stagnation, famine and oppression (1955 to 1978) and tries to include capitalist market reforms of 1978 onwards as a sign of "communist success".

It's a dumb image that anyone with a elementary level of history could pick apart.

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>>>/leftypol/

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>it's right because I read it in a book
typical marxist sheep retard

Exactly

Meanwhile in "le current year" there are not only alcoholics but drug addicts everywhere.

the USSR leadership was subverted in the 80s.

Redpill: IF you dont restrict degeneracys and freedumbs in favour of national unity you fuck up. even Hitler understood this.

Its too bad Hitler and Stalin didnt fuck over the freedumb loving degenerate west.

>posting pictures of two things side by side

reminds that picture of a city in nigeria that looks really nice compared to some shitty delapitated areas in washington with the words "AFRICA MASTER RACE"

...

chile is practically fucking socialist now, there shit got better when economic leftists started reforms

>commie
>god tier
Pick one.

This image is literally capitalism before and after... the image before is Maoist (communist) China and the post is Capitalist (post-deng) China.

Honestly, read up on how the Chinese economy operates. Just having "communist" in their name doesn't mean much.

>North Korea

Look up Juche. At this point North Korea is really poorly executed NatSoc ruled by "divine monarchy" (Kim family)

South korea used to be a shithole for many years (even worse than NK) until the Americans began offshoring jobs to them.

But even most of the Soviet leadership didnt "really" like north korea after it devolved into the kim monarchy. The only reason they were kept around was as a buffer state

>the exploiter capitalist jew has got us into this mess.
You can always "remove" the jew variable from the equation... Just saying.

Aren't Fascism and Capitalism the only systems that have actually improved the standard of living of their citizens in practice?

if you study american history you would know that the time when unions were running the country and heavy government regulation along with high taxes for the rich and corporations (aka socialism) was the greatest period in american history. you were guranteed a factory job straight out of highschool for 40 bucks an hour. but thanks to the FREE MARKET when reagan got into office these factory job owners that would once give you that job realized it would be cheaper to have some indians do it for pennies. boom economic collapse and crippling income inequality aka SHIT WE SAW HAPPEN

so your stupid ass comparison pictures prove absolutely nothing next to hard facts. study america

really after the "enemy" is dead the "le freedumbz no step on snek wad is alebbo??? :DDDDDD" would get BTFO by the National Socialists

>economic leftists
Two key words

You want economic leftists with right wing harsher social values

>implying you even know or have read jack shit about socialism besides "share a toothbrush hurrr"

what the USSR did wrong was alienate itself from the rest of the world, and trying to sustain itself by being self sufficient.

If it actually used all of its excess GDP at importation and exportation, comparable to a country of that time, it wouldn't have failed.

The main complain literally everyone in the USSR had was lack of food and other products, for usage by... everyone.

Nothing the US ever did was even close to Socialism, Anarchism or Communism. Germany today is more left then you ever were and we're still capitalist as fuck.

>china being communist took the most people out of poverty in human history with strong nationalism (by literally starving tens of millions of them to death), russia went from a war torn hell hole to space faring super power (by starving more people to death than died in the holocaust)

wowee sign me up famalam loljk i like food

There is nothing wrong with capitalism. Only the corporations that abuse their power.

>it should be illegal for a government to stop this rich factory owner to fire an entire american town so a bunch of indians can do the job for pennies thereby causing a problem where the members of the town can't even buy the product that the factory makes aka recession.
Never happened i.e. not an argument. If you look at the actual cause of outsourcing and denial of employment of Americans the source is always government interference. Would it pay an employer to have to go through language barriers, international shipping, and etc. if they could make the same profit in the home country? The United States tax code is so ridiculous that it encourages outsourcing and seeking for cheap labor, otherwise you would be unable to compete. Your response to this basic truth will probably be "that lowering taxes and regulations would give the people in the home country a lower standard of living" and to this I would say is also wrong. A big problem plaguing anti-free marketers is that they see the absence of regulation or rules from a central authority as meaning the absence of order. If you had companies competing on an even playing field you would they would be forced through free market mechanisms to compete amongst each other, if employer X is willing to pay me more and give me more benefits than employer Y to attract me to his job, I will work for employer X, this deficiency forces employer Y to compete for labor with higher wages and benefits. The problem with a large government and a private sector is that the private sector takes over the large government and abuses the public. The solution to this can never be a stronger government, you would just create another elite class.

>bitch i have a masters degree in economics and i'm 25,
And who taught you all these jewy lies?

... I rest my case.

no shit, but no one seems to understand this. they think the free market is a godsend and capitalism because they have no clue how terrible it is.

in the end nazbol is the true way but no one here is smart enough to read a fucking book and understand just how horrendous capitalism and free market jewery is

>jewey lies

dude, stop. you are the one sucking the jew dick by being so ignorant

Ronald Reagan is not representative of the free market or libertarianism. He increased taxes, increased government spending, increased government power, continued the drug war, and fueled the military industrial complex. We do not live in a free market, it is a strawman to say that we do and attribute all the failures of our corporatist system to the free market.

If you were actually a communist or an anarcho-syndicalist you would be in favor of eliminating classes and coercion. Unions are inherently coercive in that the only way they can get what they want is to deny "scabs" employment.

Violate my NAP and see what happens you fucking leaf

says the uncompetitive loser reading jew books to turn him into a collectivist slave
I'll bring up again how you keep citing the mere act of reading books as an argument or any sort of authority
lmao

muh 98 million

Shhh. Don't tell em.

quit associating the globalist cuck johnson with libertarianism

wrong wrong wrong:
youtube.com/watch?v=ZdCNGkZoIZw

the 80's is when the american rich taxes were cut. taxes were cut from 80% down to later 15% on the wealthiest elite

exactly

free market combined with social materialism and self centeredness and tolerance of degeneracy (as opposed to unity for the nation) is a recipe for a short term high followed by collapse of not only the economy but nation and national identity as well.

This is though why modern social leftists are a cancer (pic related)

there should be no taxes

>collectivist slave
Yep allow everyone to have no loyalty to anything but themselves be as degenerate as they want and only care about material pleasures. See how much of a nation you have later

China started "buttfucking" the west when it opened itself to capitalism and foreign investors.

-A doctorate in economic analysis

actual communism is already anarchist moron

>hurrr its just collectivist slavery
wrong as fuck again

socialism is simply the restriction of the capitalist jew from doing his bidding on society. the free market is absolute cancer to the highest levels and there is nothing "SLAVERY" about wanting to go back to socialist 1960s america where factory workers and everyone was unionized and guranteed good pay through governments cap on the rich's exploitation of them

IT IS THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE OF SLAVERY YOU JEW TOOL

>all National Socialism gets is "h-haha stupid racists!"
It's funny when you faggots try to address the elephant in the room.

you shouldn't be looking up to a nation, but fighting for your family, culture, and community
you don't hold authority over others and shouldn't but your inability to hold yourself up to a higher standard is no reason to utilize force to mold everyone to your stupid ideals

>it's the complete opposite of slavery
lol it's democracy which is majority rule

>RT, a channel literally sponsored by Russian state
>this all you got?

I don't agree with Reagan, but it's not simply Reagan or Communism. There are hundreds of systems and compromises between it (like the superioir Social market system).

Ronald Reagan also raised federal income taxes five times during his presidency and increased corporate taxes. Even if he didn't it would not matter since he increased government spending. Lowering taxes is pointless if you don't lower spending because the money would just be acquired through borrowing or increasing the money supply, which serves as a double tax by lowering the value of people's money. High taxes on the rich are pointless, if the taxes are too absurdly high to the point where it is profitable to pay for tax lawyers or tax shelters, they will do just that, and the brunt of the tax is felt by smaller businesses that can't do this.

my comrad.

sadly a lot of people here don't understand just how important ACTUAL leftist economic principles like socialism is for society because they haven't read hegel/marx or any critique of capitalism. but in the end the one true way to combat degeneracy, to make everyone rich, to stop exploitation of working people, and to have strong nationalistic unified people.

immigration is a tool of the jewish capitalist elite

yes but when most people in your family culture and community wouldnt even fight for it or even care about it or anything but themselves that you have a problem. when they due to weakness would bend over without fighting for someone who has come to destroy everything they and their ancestors have built its a problem.

>not being able to choose where to work and how much to work (how much to earn)
>limited choice in products and services
>that's not being a slave?

I was a leninist-communist when i was 13 - 15, then i got a basic education in economics.

I hope you do the same user.

you being shitty and your family being shitty isn't an excuse to shit on other peoples lives who are better and more successful than you

itt 4 communiggers from /leftypol/ pretending USSR wasnt the epitome of failiure

Marxism is dead, watch the debate where your paragon of leftis intellectualism got destroyed by TRS kulturkampf again and go cry in a corner.

youtube.com/watch?v=ZiiOz6V-9N8

It's truly funny seeing people from Russia, Venezuela and other parts of eastern Europe come to Cred Forums and tell us how much of a failure central planning was, just for the middle class kids in the US or western Europe to praise marxism.

>communism
>anarchism
>god-tier
I too remember being a college freshman

pic related is the true gospel

>if you think the "free market" solves anything

We don't need to think anything, just observe.

Compare countries like Haiti, Singapore, Zimbabwe, New Zealand, Cuba, Estonia, Chile, Argentina, Hong Kong, etc.

Your stupid ideology gets BTFO by reality, not by some old book from a libertarian weirdo.

There's no point in arguing with commies, they're just economic creationists.

>better and more successful than you
No im not wanting to shit on those

I simply wish to be rid of the addicts/leeches/criminals/fags/degenerates etc. who are a drag on all

This is now a helicopter thread.

maybe you should get a basic education in political economy as well

go to god-tier venzuela or somalia then

I'm seeing a running theme here.

>God Tier
Utopias
>Pitiful Tier
The things that exist in reality
>Devious Little Creatures
The other Utopias that the image maker doesn't like

>lol u r dumb
>just check this list of completely random countries I made
>commies BTFO
okay mate, time to put that pipe down

wat is this

Nigeria is better than Cuba and like the Britbong said, Shanghai's transformation from 1990 to 2010 was due to market capitalism, not a centrally planned economy

Juche is literally nothing. BR Myers wrote that Juche is simply an empty faux-ideology that exists not to be read or understood but to be praised; to make the propaganda claim that the Korean people have this great unique idoelogy thanks to Kim Il Sung.It has a lot to do with Korean nationalism which is founded in deep insecurity about their own historical achievements that leads to extreme overcompensation (sorta like Trump's insecurities or the we wuz kangz crowd)

Regardless of the governing institutions resembling the Imperial Japanese monarchy, the economy from 1953 to the 1980s was characterized by an extreme hyper-Stalinism as Korea expert Andrei Lankov describes it. It was a totally centrally planned economy where money was essentially worthless and everything was rationed. Food, socks, electronic equipment, all resources were owned and allocated by the state.

South Korea used to be a shithole that's true. Partly because North Korea launched a war on them 1950. Partly because the Japanese Empire built the factories and industrial sites in the northern half of the Korean peninsula while the south remained highly agrarian. That changed due to capitalist market economics under Park Chung Hee, who led an anti-communist military dictatorship in South Korea allied with the US and helped prop up a state-capitalism that placed heavy emphasis on industrial development and financially supporting Chaebols like Hyundai, Lotte and Samsung.

Again, capitalism leads to peaceful and prosperous societies, communism leads to impoverished hellholes. Communism cannot generate wealth as an economic system.

>Anarchism
>Transformation to communist utopia via democracy

You're a fucking idiot who should look into why the anarchists were removed from the second international and learn that anarchism is not "democractic socialism"

liberals belong in the bottom tier desu

then be self sufficient and independent you dumb commie leaf

>Communism cannot generate wealth as an economic system.
This is really all you pinkos should take from this thread. Even if you believe in some force to stomp out degeneracy and keep cultural purity, the economics of the matter does not change.

Free helicopter rides for Communists, courtesy of Augusto Pinochet.

Untermensch

devious little creatures are cute

You can generalise to any country if you want.

Free helicopter rides, free swimming lessons, and yet they complain.

ETERNAL REMINDER!
After almost 100 YEARS literally NO ONE debunked this masterpiece of von Mises. Ergo, Socialism as a ideology and practice don't work for logical reasons ergo it's uber shit. /leftypol/ and /reddit/ is this way, now gtfo

capitalism didnt do any of those things, the goverment did....

the mayors are democrats also i bet those are black counties

What if you want both National Values and Traditional Values, while thinking both globalism/foreigners and modernity/new culture are both the problems?

youtube.com/watch?v=AVQ4LIp39Xo

30 secs in, and this already has so many strawmans i cant even...

We are the deplorables after aren't we

>Ancap

Kek. Mao's model was Shang Yang.

Shang Yang was a dude from 300-200 BC who wanted everyone to become farmers and warriors. In order to do that, he crashed every economical sector other than those two, he removed all useless arts and culture that might distract the people from farming, he made a police states where bad farmers became slaves to good farmers, ect. He even talked about ways to weaken the people to strengthen the state.

Mao's goal was to make a strong country, not a strong people. Mao wasn't a useful idiot. He used communism as a way to execute his plan.

The refugees would not be coming in under a communist system, they are being imported because capitalism requires exponential growth and the EU is going through a slowing of population growth that cannot sustain the current economic model. They aren't being brought in for any moral argument, that's the reason offered up to deflect away from the core issues the matter draws to capitalism itself.
Of course NASCAR, your culture, your heritage can all be preserved under communism, but it's not the focus point of this board. The cultural marxists out to destroy your identity at its core is a meme peddled by misinformed or outright lying capitalists and nationalists like Breivik, Sargon of Akkad and pals who want to discredit socialism and the work of Karl Marx by strawmanning it to the Frankfurt School, and then strawmanning the Frankfurt School to multiculturalism.
Your problems with various groups can be traced to economic problems, black people were kept in a shitty situation since slavery was abolished and there was no great attempt to lift them out of ghettos and poverty, the civil rights movement gave them the same rights, but without money they were largely condemned to be stuck at the bottom. Here we're pretty critical of Israel too and not 12 hours ago we laughed off someone calling us antisemitic. It's important not to focus on the misdeeds of groups of people when these actions are a consequence of their initial economic situation.
I sympathize with Cred Forums quite a bit, it's a shame to see them get so close to the revelation and to just loop straight back round to "Fucking kikes" so frequently. I've seen some of Hitler's speeches subtitled and find myself agreeing with what he's saying, but he just veers off into blaming the Jews for all the problems of the world. A lot of fascists tend to start at the same train of thought as communists and then veer off into identity issues right at the crux of the argument.

>democracy
>transition from capitalism to communism must be democratic

Is it even worth shitting on this garbage image?

>>>>>pushing out the Japanese

The Chinese nationalists would like a word with you faggot

>
got debunked by itself

nazbols need to be gassed you are not national socialists you are commies that don't like faggots and that's it

>i disagree concerning the dictatorship of the proletariat
>the transition between capitalism to communism must be entirely democratic

What sort of retards write these and why do they think they're being coherent? :|

>The refugees would not be coming in under a communist system
You got that part right - they'd be pouring out.