Brit/pol/ - The members, Jeremy Edition

CYMRU AM BYTH

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>when a blairite tries to sneak out the conference

Actually it's not, I have a very good theory and I've said it before.

We have had for many many decades (practically forever) ugly people ruling us.

David Cameron (ugly flat pizza face).
Theresa May (ugly faced with a hook nose like a witch).
The two Jags guy (ugly as sin with fat tits to boot).

And they have destroyed our country, probably because they were bullied for being ugly, so they get revenge by taking control of the country and inflicting their butthurt childhood memories upon the beautiful people. They make us suffer with taxes and enrichment.

No, we need beautiful people like Henry Cavil to rule the country!

DOWN WITH THE UGLIES!

>tfw the trump and clinton debate is tommorow

Best birthday present desu.

post brillo pad karen plx

strawpoll.me/11299123
strawpoll.me/11299143

The 30 with the most votes will go on into another Strawpoll that will decide the winner.

All depends on the neutrality of the organisers and questions

Out last night with my girlfriend and saw two guys screaming at a homeless old (60+) Muslim woman on the street with her crying. Turns out he'd dropped change and she'd picked up one of the quids hoping to keep it and that's why they were kicking off. She shouldn't have done that, but there was something that I found really uncomfortable and wrong about seeing two young men picking on an old homeless women. Never really see that kind of thing were I live too.

Was what they were doing wrong, do you reckon? Anyone else have similar stories.

>another person also voted for Gordon Brown
My nigga.

Clinton gauranteed to pull the sexism card when she gets stumped. What time is it on in GMT anyway?

You both should hang

>(((Disraeli)))
>invented One Nation Conservatism aka Civic Nationalism
>socialist masquerading subversively as a tory

>Tory socialism is the belief in reformist-minded activist government, at once appealing to political sentiments commonly associated with both conservatism and socialism. It was a term used by historians, particularly of the early Fabian Society, to describe the governing philosophy of the British prime minister BENJAMIN DISRAELI.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tory_socialism

>lelbour

>not wanting to get sick deals on selling our gold to the Chinese
Come on now lad, why would you want a bunch of boring metal stuck in a vault somewhere, when you could use the money to buy ice creams for lollipop ladies instead?

They were doing the right thing, she was a thieving cunt. She was also a Muslim. I once smacked a homeless guy, he looked about maybe 50 but maybe that's just the effect drugs has on people. He asked for some money and I said no, so he threatened me so I smacked him. Being homeless doesn't give you a right to be a thief or a cunt. Being an woman doesn't make it any better either.

>Theresa May
>ugly

Where's Thatcher?

Where's Churchill?

wtf

English people are cucks

t. Wales

>the absolute state of Labour's "big-hitters"

the second link

Wales is part of England chum

and London is part of Pakistan, butt

Fuck the EU.

Yanks seem to be pushing Corbyn a lot. He seems to be getting a lot of recognition there for some reason.

I wonder if they're planning a plot to tank Brexit negotiations leading to Corbyn's Labour accidentally seizing power in 2020.

Ruth Smeeth is one plant exposed in the Labour ranks but there could be others.

Can't we all just get along

wales is literally england m8

look it up

Is... Is Prince George the one? The one that will save us all. Our Caesar?

Charles is no prince of mine, Glyndwr 1400 neva forget

>missing out South Africa
come on now lads

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>McDonnell defends calling for Esther Mcvey to be lynched
>Yvette Cooper tells McDonnell to apologise, he doesn`t

What did that Coronation Street paki cunt tweet to offend all those poo in loos then?

what a group of fucking slags

Hmm, maybe. I was really high at the time, so it probably affected by judgement a lot. I'm in no doubt she was in the wrong, it was just the reaction that bothered me.

Kek

>APOLOGISE!
>'no'

kek.

He referred to Indians as bastards, and "piss-drinking cunts".

Literally not even kidding.

youtube.com/watch?v=kNCTH4gQJ-Q

screenshot of tweet lad?

Toughen up laddp, people don't learn their place unless they are put in it.

really makes u think

I have a question for Brit/pol/ actually:

>How would you go about getting your life back on track if you were homeless in a British city

Say you didn't know anyone in the city, you had no money, smelly clothes, looked dirty, etc. How would you go about changing your life around?

Post yfw you remember Brexit won

Glyndwr was never Prince of all of Wales. Wales as a single entity is a construct of Anglo colonisation. We're basically proto-India.

No reason to sack him though. I quite liked his character. Fucking jews.

It's been deleted, all I can find is the censored version.

Ignorant my ass, the Germans knew exactly what their government was doing. They just chose not to act.

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I sure do love dragging other nation's nonsense into Britain for the sake of diversity and peace.

Happy birthday britbro! What time is the debate on? I might have to stay up late to watch it.

>beygairth
what did he mean by this?

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You go to the council and they will put you up in a hostel. From there you can get regular meals and look for work.

Like we're doing right now?

>Blair
>Brown
I want new Labour to leave

nick some clean clothes from someones yard as they were drying and scrounge up cash to hop into a gym for a session just to use their showers and then hit up a load of recruitment agencies. just find a po-box to list as address

>tfw work on Tuesday so can't watch

>The Boyo With The Mayor On His Side

youtube.com/watch?v=534ab6qXq5s

There are a few charities that help out with homelessness like Shelter. Most local councils have protocols for that stuff as well. Then you'd start with JSA and take whatever you can get.

A lot of the homeless people you'll see day to day don't even want help. Being homeless is their goal in life. A lot of beggars aren't even homeless, just junkies.

There are options out there for those who want them, it's just that some people enjoy their fixes and other shit more than a basic standard of living.

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around 8pm American time, so around midnight to 2/3am

Go to the council. Say "I am homeless". They will put you in some sort of accommodation. Whilst you wait, you can go ask at a church or the YMCA to get you and your clothes washed. A food bank, church or other group will give you a bag of food.

It is not that complicated. If you have mental health issues or drug and alcohol problems, everything gets a lot harder.

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Begrudgingly Attlee

We're gonna build a gulag, and the Blairites are gonna pay for it.

It has always been extremely obvious to me that michelle is a man

look at those fucking hands

>"There's a Blairite That Never Goes Out"

youtube.com/watch?v=wyHSsRo2Kmk

What you gonna do now, Blairites???

Well duh, this pic made me thinking W might be a lovely granny

Are we assuming that the council etc have refused help/you're stuck on a waiting list? Also, the easy route is to steal shit, but we'll go with a non-criminal run.

I'd go dumpster diving for clothes and odd bits of junk with some value. The skips around large shopping centres are always good for stuff like that. Also, I'd scavenge through supermarket skips and bins for food, if there aren't any shelters nearby.

Top priority is waterproof material and warm clothes, plus a backpack of some sort, so you can sleep relatively comfortably, and store your belongings securely (using the bag as a pillow so nobody steals your shit in the night). If you have to, rig up a shelter in the nearest woods, or under motorway overpasses/train tracks. Over the space of a few weeks, you gather enough clothing that you can look relatively presentable if needed. At this point, you use public toilets to wash yourself as best you can, then head to construction/labour businesses and ask around for any cash in hand work. Hell, any work anywhere is good, even paper rounds. If you're going to be wandering the streets anyway, why not get paid for it.

Save the cash you earn from working/pawning your scavenged goods until you have enough to rent a single room in a house-share from somebody for a month, then use this as a base to look for more work.

Homeless people can still claim benefits, even if they have no bank account. They can also go to the council and get emergency accommodation in a hostel, though that seems to be getting harder and harder. If I could get in to a hostel I'd immediately start looking for work, if I couldn't then I'd just buy a tent and a sleeping bag from my bennies, find a nice place to call home for a while and use a river and body wash to keep clean. Use my bennies to buy some cheap but nice clothes too, gotta look respectful. I's also make a point of avoiding all other homeless people, as homeless people are pretty shitty and riddled in drugs.

I bet she doesn't even have a feminine penis.

Prince George knows a faggot when he sees one

Nearly got 100 followers on my tumblr cuck blog, lads.

All because he's assmad about Kashmir?

Fucking pakis, deport them all.

Can someone tell explain the kashmir situation?

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Start redpilling them, you have a decent tribe following

strawpoll.me/11299143

Only one choice

Bunch of lads and ladies shouting white power outside my flat last night lads.

Never heard of this shit in my town before. Is this a sign of the times?

Why run a cuck blog

The state of Kashmir or recent events?

Pakis did what their ancestors have been doing for centuries and crossed the border into India to murder non-Muslims, because Pakistan is one of the few sovereign nations left on Earth that is allowed to institutionally fund and export Islamic terrorism (like the Saudis).

Indians responded by mobilising border forces, bolstering troops in Kashmir and strengthening Western military ties.

Just a bit addicted to interracial/cuck porn tbqh.

Can you feel it?

youtube.com/watch?v=ZDwotNLyz10

Why the fuck do you fags like Attlee?

He literally started this shit we're in now

Yeah, I'm not a fan of it either. Our lampposts used to be dark orange with a very distinct light. It was dim but provided more than enough visibility to see. Over the past few years they've replaced them with white powered lights that make it seem light daylight any time of night. I don't like it but I'm not angry enough to shout in the street about it.

Didn't realise it was multiple choice

In which case, Wilson, Attlee and Lloyd George. Favourite Tory would be MacMillian

Am I the only vanillafag here?

>People voting for Tony

Kek

Kek. Good one.

Day labouring. Get paid>get food>get bedsit>work from there.

I'm pretty vanilla. I like romance

Same here

THIIIINGGGSS

>suck dick for drugs
>sell drugs
>put money into help to buy isa

No, Thatcher started all the shit we're in now.

>destroyed manufacturing and industry (and fuck off if have been brainwashed into blaming the unions)
>handed the country over to the financial/banking sector
>de-regulated financial/banking sector
>did little to limit EU growth in power

>Macmillan
I dunno fampai, I get a bit annoyed at the Tories who just accepted Butskellism and were happy to manage the decline.

>what

Most of them are probably bots

top kek
Based George won't touch Trudeau who knows what degenerates hes touched with those paws

>if brit/pol/ were a newspaper it would be ______

Stop looking at porn for a while m8

Thatcher also has more votes on this poll than anyone.

What's the deal there?

Private Eye

Manufacturing was already destroyed. Nobody wanted the overpriced shit we were making.

Absolutely degenerate
nice Dubs though

of no inherent value, but people keep coming back to buy it anyway for the cartoons and continued overblown headlines

>destroyed manufacturing and industry
It WAS the unions that destroyed it.

>tfw our stuff is more overpriced than ever, but suddenly the chinese are falling over themselves to buy it

As somebody who works for JLR, thank God for east asians who love the idea of british luxury

Sunday Sport.

race mixing is disgusting
check my trips

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Difference between jlr and british leyland is jlr stuff post tata is actually worth the money.

Where the fuck is Gladstone?

fucking kek

CCCAAAANNNN

When will things get so bad that normies wake up and elect a leader whose rationale is the need to rule by force, establishing a violent social order, and being a regime involving prominence of the military in the government.

I'm getting fed up of all this shit

Good point. We're gradually working away from the 'british reliability' reputation of the BL days, and Tata are absolutely based. They've invested more in the past three years than the two brands have made in profits over their entire ownership, so we get left alone to do really cool stuff, and it's now paying off for everybody involved.

which one of you memers voted for anthony eden

Labour Party Conference 2016 LIVE:
youtube.com/watch?v=EvkSifP4A28

youtube.com/watch?v=dmwqEg-06Ww

Hardly a surprise given that this place is well known to be a meeting place for many ignorant turkeys-voting-for-xmas.

>turkeys-voting-for-xmas

Yes because paying huge taxes to prop up state owned enterprises because their overpaid closed shop staff can't into productivity or a full working week is the definition of voting in your own interest.

But MUH TORIES

>What are property rights

>92 watching now

What a turnout, all of Labour's potential voters have tuned in!

>this triggers the northerner

Remember that embarrassing thing you did, user?

i have no shame left and as such am completely immune from embarrassment

Sikhs are bros, they said.

Seriously fuck you.
Cringing over my memories is ruining my life. I don't know how to stop.

Has everyone died?

>Has everyone died?
Inside years ago

>yfw he tries to use "Anglo" as an insult

Which one?

>talking to someone from school
>they bring up one of those memories, apparently involving me, in which they feel they did something incredibly embarrassing
>I have absolutely no recollection of it
Since then I have stopped caring about that shit a lot less, the fact is the other person has likely forgotten all about it, unless they were equally embarrassed in which case it doesn't really matter

My whole life is an embarrassing thing tbqh

2 threads up

I cringe about stuff I've done completely alone, or with people I'll never see again.
There is no salvation.

>talking to someone from school
>they ask if I remember the time I had diarrhoea during PE

>made a joke at work in front of a group of people, including my boss, referencing how one of the guys present had shat himself on a night out once
>realised as soon as I said it that it wasn't him I was thinking of
>utter silence for about 6 seconds before somebody whispers 'what the fuck', and the conversation switches to something work-related

DUDE WEED BTFO

>tfw losing my memories

>Decide to hoover room
>Do so, then empty the hoover
>It tries to kill me

Lads, fuck hayfever.

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I used to, then I found whiskey was great at blocking that stuff out.

>?
Prince George refusing to high five Trudeau.

And they say atheism doesn't lead to degeneracy.

CHIMPANZEES FIDDLE WITH THEIR KIDS DICKS SO WE SHOULD DO IT TOO

Based lad.

Moved to Ireland for work for the next 8 months, pretty comfy here lads, not as bad as I thought it would be.

No one gives a fuck that I'm English and lots congratulated me on Brexit. I thought Ireland loved the EU?

Fucking atheist lions.

its the ''ach, we don't like it, but we'll vote for it'' kinda cuckery

>I thought Ireland loved the EU?

You hear that about lots of EU countries. Then you visit and speak to normal people and find out it isn't true.

Judging by todays society and the way things are going, Prince George will be the worlds first transgended Xing.

talk to people

>fucking massive testosterone syringe sticking out of shelion's neck
>LOOK GUYS IT GREW A BEARD WE CAN ALL BE TRANSSEXUALS NOW

Corbyn is honestly one of my favourite political figures for years.

Doesn't give a shit if he wrecks the party, he wants to take the wheel and drive the party where he wants it to go. He uses his Cheka (party members) to keep the blairites in check.

anyone else think Theresa May is a cutie pie?

Ireland voted against the Lisbon Treaty in their but was forced into it

What time GMT?

>tfw northern ebul right winger

Think it's on at 2am for us.

The labour conference ruined my bike ride lads

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You should hold a protest.

A little, gotta admit it

Labour are exceptional at ruining things.

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BIKE RIDES MATTER

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>have a second referendum
>maybe the result is different, maybe it isn't
>either way ~50% of people aren't happy
>this makes us more united

Dawkins is a smart enough man to know there will be no "uniting behind Brexit"

We are all Africans,
but some are more African than others.

>muh eu gibs

no richard

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>lives and works in the US
>publishes his studies in the US
>his foundation is based in Washington DC

Why does he pretend to have a vested interest in the EU?

Thoughts on Generation Identitaire, lads?

youtube.com/watch?v=fYJB-wjrGsM

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Overwatch is a shitty game

£100 says if you dig around in the sources of funding for his various interests at least one will be receiving grant money from the EU in some way.

>le zoologist who studied bees his entire career, stole a theory thought up by men 100x smarter than him, wrote a book on it and spun it off as his own man
>le meme man

Frogs all look like moorish halfbreeds tbqh.

>labour speakers can barely speak English

I like their style more than that of National Action.

The fuck is this Essex girl on about

>no buses need more buses all from profit innit
>need to make it national
>does not even explain how that would fix the problem
>BLOODY TORIES XDDDDDD

>speakers who barely know the language
>this is somehow supposed to appeal to traditional working class brits
I sometimes wonder how it must feel to be as out of touch with the real world as the Labour party administration.

Private property a shit

National Action seems to skinhead-like for me tbqh.

The frenchies seem to present themselves better

I hope you get robbed.

Locked my key in my locker
Told a girl I liked her

McDonnell pls go

Agree, even if they are dirty frogs.

tfw spend get bored of doing my college work after 20 minutes and end up making a meme instead

what do you guys think of my latest OC?

Read stoic philosophy

Sure i'm just going to come live in your house :) you don't own it I can come when I want the people own it :)))))

I think she would make a good femdom

Stormfags without the double digit iq

Got bored and Re watched Brexit- A very British coup. Comfy af.

Personal property is different. It isn't used to accumulate profit.

If I had a second house, yeah, go ahead and seize it. There's 700,000 properties empty in Britain. More than enough to end homelessness.

To lo-res to know what's happening m8

But I know that feel wrt college work well

So owning things only becomes bad once you put them to productive use?

And socialists wonder why everyone laughs at them.

Aaaaaaaand there it is! "We need to redistribute the wealth... But not mine!"

Get up against the wall you fucking traitor.

What books are you lads reading?

>tfw I want to get into reading but I have a low attention span

1 min 34
youtube.com/watch?v=9dgwxLbZXhk

>private isn't personal
Please explain this distinction for the less learned

haven't read in years lad. should pick up on it again though.

Why don't atheists realise that homosexuality in animals only strengthens the case for moral law? Cannibalism and infanticide are also present in the animal kingdom.

Productivity is good. So long as those who are productive reap the rewards of their labour. Absentee ownership and dispossession of access to the means of production is the problem, thanks to sponging CEOs and parasitic usurious bankers.

I don't have much wealth though. I'd happily help others in suffering and poverty. However. That can only be ended for good by overthrowing the current society.

Just finished reading 'Empire' by Jeremy Paxman. Highly recommend it, it's pretty thorough for the long timespan it covers.

Only problem is it's so unashamedly pro-British that all I can think about is how much I want to travel back a couple hundred years and book myself on a charter to India.

Why doesn't the C of E realise that more like

Ayn rands capitalism the unknown ideal, it has short chapters and is interesting and engaging

>gif

KYS
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>dispossession of access to the means of production is the problem

Literally never been easier to be self employed. The only thing holding anyone back is a lack of an idea which is solely a personal problem.

>COMRADES
wew

What's a good non-fantasy anime? Never watched an anime and I want to become autistic.

Literally got 4 multi-packs of Freddo Frogs ready for it.

Personal property is for personal use. Clothes, cars, homes, computers etc. The owner has control over it and possessing it does not disposses others.

Private property is ownership of material such as farms and factories, utilised by the owner to accumulate profit, even while absent, backed by state protection, which necessarily involves excluding others from the full output. The source of wealth and power inequality.

Accurate

also

>i need muh revolution before I can be charitable

Weak excuse. Obvious virtue signaller just in it for the extra benbens at someone else's expense.

Fiction: Robert Tressel - The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists

Non-fiction: Peter Hitchens - The Abolition of Britain

Can't wait to be done with the first one, kinda insufferably socialist and the constant thing of "hurr Christians are all rich hypocrites!" is grating. Got this book called The Postman up next, post apocalypse stuff, should be neat.

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What kind of stuff would you be into? Anime is pretty broad as a whole.

This is actually pretty fucking based.

I don't really watch it but welcome to the nhk was good

I've nothing against self employment strictly. It can fit in well with the idea of each according to his ability. However, under the capitalist mode of production, it still caries the same threats as normal employment. Precarious living, threat of unemployment, competition and a race to the bottom to undercut your fellow worker, lack of access to employment rights etc.

Anything that is objectively good and isn't fantasy, I don't like fantasy. Feel like I'm missing out on something by not watching anime seeing as it's bummed over by everyone on this site

What's the reasoning behind being anti-gay?

socialistreview.org.uk/408/little-joy-being-your-own-boss

Those are facts of nature, not of capitalism. No system can guarantee 100% security, and any system attempting it will just look like a prison.

>self-employment
>lack of access to employment rights

u wot m8

I think you'll like '91 days', lad.

It's a recent anime and there's only 11 episodes out so far.

You can download it from here: horriblesubs.info/

>I don't have much wealth though. I'd happily help others in suffering and poverty.

You can volunteer your time, have you ever done voluntary work with the homeless, for instance?

And before you ask: yeah, I have, Crisis Open Christmas several years back.

Honestly you remind me of all the bourgeois "socialists" I used to know who would piss and moan about how society was unjust but make out like it wasn't up to them to do anything. You've got all the time in the world, mate, shit ain't solely about wealth.

>Tfw finding an extra sliver of roast beef hiding under the mash

This kills the white man. As Shakespeare said, the world must be peopled. Also, it's against God.

>As fast as thou shalt wane, so fast thou grow'st
>In one of thine, from that which thou departest;
>And that fresh blood which youngly thou bestow'st,
>Thou mayst call thine when thou from youth convertest.
>Herein lives wisdom, beauty, and increase;
>Without this folly, age, and cold decay:
>If all were minded so, the times should cease
>And threescore year would make the world away.
>Let those whom nature hath not made for store,
>Harsh, featureless, and rude, barrenly perish:
>Look whom she best endowed, she gave the more;
>Which bounteous gift thou shouldst in bounty cherish:
>She carved thee for her seal, and meant thereby,
>Thou shouldst print more, not let that copy die.

Watch a classic good movie like The girl who leapt through time.
Movies are the pinnacle of animation tbqh
Just check out the good guys like Makoto Shinkai and Satoshi Kon.

>nature

The capitalist equivalent to the divine right of Kings. The go to excuse of human nature presents capitalism as immortal, when it really isn't. The massive surplus produced by society is more than capable of meeting everyone's needs. It requires a restructuring of society

See

Like I couldn't dislike this cunt any more.

You should get different names for these.
This idea will never catch on with such baffling terminology.

Still not sure where you are trying to draw the line.
If by private property you mean private business you should call it that.

>possessing it does not disposses others

Yet another catchphrase that requires explaining.
Why can lefties never speak in plain English and always use such puzzling jargon.

Not fantasy cuts out almost everything tbqh.
Shirobako is great for workplace bantz. Sora no Woto is comfy as shit, has a unique interesting setting, and a military aspect.
You wouldn't like those if you're turned off by cute moeblob girls though.
Evangelion is a safe place to start, because almost everyone else does.
Macross Plus is Top Gun: the anime.

>I don't like fantasy.
It's not all autistic elves and shit. Haibane Renmei is GOAT comfy/depressing low fantasy.

M8 it's 10 paragraphs from a blogger whos closest experience to a self employed person was attending a talk by The Sociological Review, on “Everyday Self-Employment”. It says nothing. It's just marxist bingo.

I've worked with charities and pensioners. However nobody should have to rely on charity and kindness to be assured a dignified life. Solidarity is an obligation for all.

The Shadow World: Inside the Global Arms Trade by Andrew Feinstein

He's from South Africa in case you couldn't tell haha

It's not a bad book, I can tell that the author wants me to be shocked by what goes on with the likes of BAE and etc, but honestly I don't give a fucking shit; Britain first and all that; if some stupid retards in Tanzania want to fork out a ridiculous £40m for some bullshit outdated military radar they KNOW they don't even need, who am I to stop them?

They`re doing pretty good for a Japanese mafia series.
Baccano is another great crime series.

Evangelion is 2deep4me.

Not my fault you're too blinded by ideology to understand.

No it's just nature.

>The massive surplus produced by society is more than capable of meeting everyone's needs. It requires a restructuring of society

No it isn't. Globally we're depleting resources at a far higher rate than is sustainable for the projected 10 billion people to all live like we do here.

>Not my fault you're too blinded by ideology to understand.
Actually . . .You are!

So factories and farms are " The source of wealth and power inequality"?? What a load of Commie rubbish.

When you grow up you will realise how stupid you sound.

What ideology am I blinded by that allows me to see outdated platitudes that barely made sense 100 years ago and are today far more similar to secular religion than economics?

This is a classic. Poster is shit, but the movie is worth a watch.

Dude. Listen.
Money is just assigning value to a scarce resource. You have to do this because no one is capable of centrally planning resources even on a small scale.

Money (capitalism) isn't what makes evil to you. It's the abuse of government power.

Communism is evil on it's face because it's so terrible at resource allocation that literally tens of millions of people starve to death when it's tried on a large scale.

Could have handled the act of de-colonization and moved to trade of services for materials.
Its the fact that a bunch of commies then convinced them to go around killing each other and implement a corrupt system. "charity" didn't help them much either. Apart from all that mine clearing.

Blame capitalism for creating a world which destroys the environment for profit. We can live in a sustainable world. Technology allows it

Private ownership of them is, yeah.

The capitalist ideology. Platitudes about human nature and false assumptions about the possibility of fusing technology and environmentalism, to keep you subservient to the regime. The ruling class has a vested interest in keeping people subservient to capitalism.

Where were you when jonathan pie btfo everyone who calls Corbyn unelectable???

youtube.com/watch?v=8os-nKuoM3o

>tfw back at uni and no sunday dinner

Okey dokey, I'll hear you out.

You claim that platitudes about human nature are irrelevant. In that case, why haven't the working class populations of the many countries around the world risen up and taken ownership of farms and industry? Clearly it would be in their interest. And before you mention the police or anything, surely it's also in their interests, since they're not part of the elite either?

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Tim should fire this wankstain already

Do both

Why do I get the feeling you're one or two posts away from mentioning resource based economies?

And yes we could live in such a world. We'd all be much poorer and live on constant rationing in prison states that by necessity had to lock down their populations by force. But it would be possible for a short time.

lol back to school son.

that user is using standard political definitions.

You never heard 'property is theft'?

No. That's not capitalisms fault that is the governments fault for granting environmental exceptions to wealthy people that paid them off.

If you build a mill and dam a river and fill it with dye and waste, and your neighbors down the way sue you for fucking up their water. And that's good and correct under common law. This would be so costly the mill would never do such damage to the river

Unless they had government support that said they passed their environmental 'study' and everything was okay and the existing tenant was interfering with the wee peened trout anyway and the mill is going to put in a million dollar peen fish ladder that will kick back to the senators husbands construction firm.

When I was at uni we used to make it a house tradition to either cook Sunday dinner or go to the pub and have the carvery in the evening, couple of pints and a game of snooker.

>DUDE LABOUR MEMBERS ARE TOTALLY EQUIVALENT TO THE NATIONAL ELECTORATE LMAO
>MUH MEDIA IS SABOTAGING MUH CORBYN
>EDUCATED TWATS LMAO AMIRITE?
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Good to see blairites get BTFO though.

>In that case, why haven't the working class populations of the many countries around the world risen up and taken ownership of farms and industry?

Because the state cracks down on any socialist revolt. From the Diggers and the Paris Commune to the Naxalites and Zapatistas. But capitalism also was initially repressed by feudalism. It took centuries for capitalism to finish off feudalism and become the world system. Also, large sections of the working class are bought off through the so called labour aristocracy, to ease radicalism. Police are class traitors. History shows soldiers are far more radical and class conscious.

Weekend goes so quickly when you do fuck all

>tfw Ginsters pasties are 2 for £2 so you have enough left over for a cheeky 50p blowey behind the Tesco car park

Thanks lads.

>the state cracks down on any socialist revolt
But how is that possible? The non-state population of this country is about 60 million. How can the state possibly win when they're outnumbered 20:1? It's obvious that socialism is in the people's best interests, so even if some of the upper working classes are bought off, most wouldn't be, so there's still an insurmountable numbers deficit for the state.

Ghost in the Shell. If you watch anything, watch the first movie and the two series (skip the fillers). It has all the tropes of value in anime and about as good animation as you will get for its time. It's where the Matrix people got all their aesthetics from. It's awesome.

youtube.com/watch?v=SY6PNTzQb1A

youtube.com/watch?v=OdrFYNCwekY

youtube.com/watch?v=wmudt_M9Sn0

>Slavs

>It's obvious that socialism is in the people's best interests
Literally haven't read any of your other posts, but that's not an argument.

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The state cracks down on anything that threatens the state. That can be an undercurrent of socialist thought or an individual/group of individuals/business that creates something that threatens the current order.

You can see this in many industries where lobbying has bought about legislation that bans or taxes competition out of existence. Examples being the music industry when the internet became a thing, taxi companies, high street stores vs internet stores etc.

don't agree with the guy, but the state has guns and missiles and you have assault spoons

G U N B U S T E R
a.nyanpas.su/ejzmtv.mp4

also kiniro mosaic

>subservient to capitalism
All you seem to offer as an alternative is subservience to the state.

> standard political definitions
Confusing jargon to anyone who never did GCSE politics.

Go around saying you are for the common man but can't even speak language he can easily understand.
Sounds pretty foolish to me.

Do you know why they say 'private property' and not 'private business'?
Is it a common political jargon or only terms used by the left?

I'm not the socialist, Ausbro. Read the exchange, I'm the one arguing against it.

Oh, well serves me right I guess.

and all of the citizens of the Allies knew about the (((international bankers))) but never acted on it... also, separately, this

The capitalist state has a monopoly on force, has an army and police force l and all the organs of the state at its disposal. Manpower is perhaps not that important in the age of the drone. And some people are unconvinced that socialism will benefit them, again thanks to capitalist control of politics, media, education etc.

You can just imagine Momentum wondering the streets of some working class stronghold telling them private property will be abolished and the means of production will be seized. To people who may own a small business and have just got a mortgage.

still more to do.

I hate to be the one to break this to you user, but the holocaust isn't real.

The allies knew vaguely about Jewish persecution, the civilians didn't know diddly fuck, and only the Allied High Command knew about the Holocaust.

Are you that Nazi user from a few days ago?

Would a socialist state not have a monopoly on force? And if not what has changed to make it different from all previous socialist states?

>And some people are unconvinced that socialism will benefit them, again thanks to capitalist control of politics, media, education etc.

Maybe you should make a better case for why it would benefit them. Why is paying almost all of your earnings to the state to be redistributed in ways you mostly wont agree with, being given a job and a commie block flat, being given one fixed position in life, better than what we have now?

But why would the police and army be on the side of the state? They're regular people like you or I.

Are you trying to say that they'd act against their own people, to look after their own interests?

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>alternative is subservience to the state.

Hardly. Workers will seize the state, in time it will dissolve. The state would no longer be used to repress workers but to coordinate society so that it benefits those who run it.

Peter Hitchens' blog isn't as active as it used to be

Its like people in this thread don't care about the labour conference?!

Nice theory. Never happened that way though has it.

threadly reminder that, if your skin is white, there is no reason for you to vote for labour

He will never be leader of UKIP again, he will never be more popular than he is right now. His light is dimming.

And if your skin isn't white, but you have a job and some self respect, there is also no reason to vote labour.

Lol

And what, your 1% of capitalists, they just give up and stop controlling everything? Nah mate, they'll bribe their way into the high command of whatever state you DO use to run things, and then you're REALLY fucked because they have even more direct control of you than they do now.

Inb4 we'd kill the huge bankers and capitalists in a global revolution. These people all have multiple body doubles, nuclear bunkers and above-ground fortresses all over the world, and they all have private jets and helicopters. You would literally never even get within sight of them before they flee halfway across the world and even if you did you'd be dropped by their snipers.

You're just an idiot teenager. Grow up and you'll see it's not the way

I'm not a nazi, just a sympathiser, but this whole board is full of them. It's what it's known for.

He didn't get into the game to be popular fampai.

Also, he has been the only one so far to escape Enoch Powell's adage about political careers.

if he does the eurosceptic thing across europe he'll have millions of more supporters

>coordinate society
What happens if somebody doesn't like the way things have been organised, or their new occupation?

And what stops somebody from hoarding what they have and eventually becoming more wealthy, gaining influence and power over others just like the current elites?

>1% of capitalists

Not really correct when you factor in personal savings and investments, pensions, BTL income, the self employed and SMEs.

The number of capitalists is far higher than 1%.

Gulags usually.

Jewish death squads.