For obvious reasons, I as a burger don't have much access to the original literature or understanding of what Hitler meant by this word.
Are Aryans supposed to be a concept? An ideal? Something to strive forth? Are Aryans supposed to be the ultimate evolution of man and woman? Or is it the Germanic people, pure and culturally clean?
When I mean by no memes, I am simply asking for the honest definition of what Hitler meant by the Aryan people. Because understandably, there will be biases in my history books (to some degree) and I rather hear the version coming from the few people on here who actually subscribe to National Socialism and or White Nationalism.
I of course have my own understanding of what it means, but as I start to recall, I'm not even sure where I came up with such a definition.
Aryans come from the Caucuses and are the most beautiful and intelligent of the races.
To be an Aryan, one must look like an Aryan and must also strive to better the world by being productive and respectful while also maintaining a stoic calm and strength that is used only when necessary.
The Aryan is the protector of the Earth, and as such the animal kingdom bends their knee to their protectors.
Jaxon Brown
Depends.
Labels can and are defined by people in any way that benefits an agenda.
Geographically?
Genetically?
Ideologically?
As far as I know, it's historically people from the area around Iran.
Levi Baker
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Adam Collins
That sounds reasonable.
But on the look of an Aryan? What is that? Is it the classic blond hair, blue eyes, white skin? So essentially Nordic/Germanic?
So would it be fair to say, Aryan is just a linguistic bastardization of the word "Iranian"?
I'm not sure what this is showing me. Context?
Mason Torres
Aryans are lightest blue of this map. It's a subset of Caucasian.
Liam Turner
>Look white >Act white >Is white
For those who boast of their "purity," you have 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 great grandparents and so on. Go back 500 years or so and you have a million ancestors. A few more generations and everyone who ever trod the lands of Europe is your ancestor, including Huns, Mongols and Moors. There are no 100% pure Aryans as per 10,000 years ago. But we still do exist as a distinct and unique biological entity. The cultures and civilizations we create are beyond comparison. The beauty of our women, blondes, brunettes, redheads, green-eyed, blue-eyed, brown-eyed, is the desire of all men and the envy of all women. So, we do not want to be derailed by gossip or speculation on who may be 1/16th Indian or have some Italian, Spanish or Portuguese blood. We are not going to debate over whether the collective remaining White gene pool is 95% or 97% pure Aryan.
Surely it would be a tragedy if the various divisions of our race lose their distinctive traits and beauty. And after we have secured the existence of our people and a future for ALL our children, hopefully we can take steps to preserve this diversity. But for now, we are going to accept the facts and circumstances as they exist. We are going to work together for the holy cause and we will not tolerate provocateurs, divisions or dissension. If someone looks White, acts White, fights White, then until their actions prove otherwise, they are our Folk. On the other hand, regardless of pedigree or appearance, those who oppose, criticize, hinder or fail to support our cause are no friends of ours.
Side note: you're in the US, we're one of the only countries in the world that has access to original literature. Mein Kampf is illegal in almost all of Europe. Order it off Amazon.
>There are no 100% pure Aryans as per 10,000 years ago. You are making a common mistake. The Aryans were a population group, like saying "Italians". It wasn't "all white people". There were other white people, who weren't Aryans. In fact the Aryans probably weren't the whitest of their times. Too much Mongoloid admixture that they lost by mixing with the populations of the West and the South.
Ryder Myers
He's showing you the indo-European Language group
Red is germanic Yellow is Celtic Gold is Romance Green is slavic Light green is slavo-baltic Cyan is albanian Yellow is Gayreek Purple is Armenian Blur is Iranic and Indic
Brandon Kelly
So judging by this map, would the Aryans be construed as Celtic, Germanic or Slavic?
I appreciate the simple greentext definition. I'll admit that's been my basic starting point for what an "Aryan" is. I do have the "Stalagg(?)" edition of Mein Kampf as a pdf. I keep pushing it off. I'll also take note to check out the site linked.
That's a lot to read. I'll make sure to make time for it. Thank you.
Nicholas Perez
Just warning you, 2-3 different definitions of Aryans are already on the table. Some are disconnected from history, like calling all Europeans and even all white Europeans, "Aryan". It's a euphemism.
Levi Morgan
tbf, it doesn't have to be blue eyes/blonde hair.
What it is is bone structure, imo. You can just "tell" when you see an Aryan. They have birdlike cheeks and rigid and taught jawlines and their noses are perfectly shaped. Also eyes that you can get lost in, regardless of colour. Eyes that show intelligence.
Chase Russell
there is only one Aryan and it's not Caucasian, white, European, Christian or anything of the sort अहम् आर्यः >I am Aryan white retards think they're Aryan but all they do is use the word Aryan without understanding what it means, without knowing anything at all about the context of the word they're so far from Aryan they are actually anti-Aryan
Connor Morgan
I see. Then what is brown? You say Yellow is Celtic, which is what I think I may be mistaking for brown.
So as other anons have noted, the Aryan's would be the Iranic people?
I do agree on that point. So far I have counted (1) Europeans as a whole. (2) Ancient Iranians (3) Indo-Aryans.
I'm not too good with mental images, but I'll take your word for it.
I was waiting for someone to point this out. But most of my history books classify such as Indo-Aryan? I'll admit I don't know how to really understand the wrench you threw me here.
What do you classify as the real meaning of the word?
Liam Thomas
Aryan is a man who influences people and matter in such way that it benefits the whole humanity.
Juan Butler
>mwf Serbia is Aryan
Kevin Baker
That does seem pretty good.
So I take it you seen Aryan as more a concept/ideal?
Cameron Sanders
Aryans are the decedents of the Mediterranean basin before the Italian land bridge separated and created the Mediterranean sea. (20k years ago, pic related) Humanity is over 200 years old. Every map you see of human migration out of Africa is based on modern maps, which is ludicrous, because the earth didn't look like that 200k years ago.
Most of them settled in Egypt, Sumeria, and cappadocia.
Civilization is much older than commonly accepted, and the Aryan refugees ruled most of them, and built great wonders with their advanced knowledge of building techniques.
Ramses was white and had red hair.
Ancient American civilizations worshipped white skinned bearded men who brought them civilization.
We wuz kangs.
Logan James
Humanity is over 200k years old.***
Landon Diaz
Aryans are a disposable and generally worthless subgenre of humans - they enjoy war, parasitising other cultures and civilisations and and reversing human progress.
They are best sent into the BLOOD REFINERIES.
Camden Gonzalez
Interesting. This explanation reminds me of the time Cred Forums had that ancient archaeologist in a thread. Dropped tons of info concerning how civilization and progress can go backwards.
Would you say the "Aryans" were a form of Atlantean people?
I've really appreciated all the information you've provided on what the "Aryans" are anons. Really do. But I've noticed I got myself distracted.
Back to the original question: What was Hitler's definition of the Aryans? How did he see it? Can I find this answer in Mein Kampf, or no?
Evan Martinez
Nice meme.
Levi Anderson
>Balto-slavic What is this bullshit? Our language is literally the closest to Sanskrit you can get. There are no similarities with russian language. Different letters, completely different words, sounds completely different. Just what?
Grayson Peterson
None of us are Aryan. I hate the meme. Aryans are so fucking general it's useless.
Mason Jenkins
>Aryan as more a concept/ideal Are you some Iranian shill? The original meaning of aryan was exactly that, 'a noble man' one who leads his everyday life in a good way performing his daily prayers to those vedic gods ,but, it was bastardized by few german indologists of the 18 century with low self esteem about their morally inferior culture and background.
Andrew Mitchell
Aryans were a historic people from India/Iran
Grayson Anderson
I know the feeling britbro.
That's part of the reason why I made the thread.
What is your definition of Aryan, if none of us match it?
I've openly admitted since the first post that I have no knowledge on this topic. Hence me asking for definitions.
But thank you for helping.
Samuel White
>Ancient American civilizations worshipped white skinned bearded men who brought them civilization.
Do we have any supporting evidence for that claim?
Liam Cox
Also >Ramses was white and had red hair. Yeah we don't know about his skin color and red hair was also (if not originally) a Semitic trait. The Irish have origins from the Middle East coincidentally.
Cameron Reed
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan >"Aryan" is a term meaning "noble" which was used as a self-designation by Indo-Iranian people. The word was used by the Indic people of the Vedic period in India as an ethnic label for themselves, as well as to refer to the noble class and geographic location known as Āryāvarta where Indo-Aryan culture was based. The closely related Iranian people also used the term as an ethnic label for themselves in the Avesta scriptures, and the word forms the etymological source of the country Iran. It was believed in the 19th century that it was also a self-designation used by all Proto-Indo-Europeans, a theory that has now been abandoned. Scholars point out that, even in ancient times, the idea of being an "Aryan" was religious, cultural and linguistic, not racial.
Aiden Rodriguez
Columbus was treated like a god by the injuns
Austin Bennett
Just a questionable and rather biased Spanish source afaik
Gabriel James
Oh. So it is an ideal/concept.
Neat.
Easton Smith
Aryans are Indo-European people's, the term covers virtually all people in the world. When our ancestors were kicked out of Africa by the googles we went to India, killed the subhumans that lived there. It was in India that the gods revealed themselves to us and probably where the Tower of Babel was built. We were then sundered across the world your ancestors went west, the chinks the went east. Being Aryan is basically meaningless it covers far too many people.
Alexander Hill
Blonde, blue eyed, Aryan here. It means you burn faster in the sun, your eyes are very sensitive to lenses and women constantly tell you your hair looks amazing. You are also a pure being living with filthy mongrels. It's frustrating. Even my girlfriend, although beautiful and smart is no match for my superior and rare genes.
Nathan Martinez
So much misinformation in one post
Charles Rivera
Asians aren't Indo-European.
Samuel Williams
You make me jealous, admittedly.
Never considered the tower of Babel to have been built there. Thank you for helping.
Lincoln Russell
Well that makes it easier.
Were there honest to God Asians who saw themselves as Aryans?
Leo Allen
I have no idea. The progenitors of all Eurasian people are assumed to have left Africa 100.000 years ago or more. The first mention of the word Aryan is only a couple thousand years old. Meanwhile, the world had went through multiple ice ages and floods and destructions. I doubt any beliefs survived from the earlier times.
Daniel Gray
>Babel >India Stop and think about the things that random people online tell you
Landon White
Then why do Jews have higher IQs?
Dylan Torres
I don't want to insult people user.
I figured it's better to hear and move on.
Adam Watson
Are Indians Aryan, some have these features
Liam Davis
Because the IQ is a measurement made by jews.
Kevin Gonzalez
then why come here?
Benjamin Russell
indians are dravidian
Gavin Murphy
Supposedly they figured out eugenics a while ago. But generally the people of the East Med were smart. Phoenicians, Greeks, Egyptians, Jews. The Ashenazi Jews probably retained more of that DNA + they mixed with whites and not with Arabs like the rest of us.
Camden Clark
Please go away, I can feel your insecurity reeking all the way over here.
Because they learn a lot, that's why. It's a jewish tradition to read as much as possible. Ever wondered why asians have higher IQ? Here is a tip - their school day is twice times longer than the one in Europe.
Elijah Butler
Because the happening threads are comfy, and the memes are dank.
That and I like the information that gets shared here.
That's a lot to go through. But thank you for sharing.
Ancient whites show up, build civilization, leave.
Joshua Scott
It'a language graph.
Andrew Hill
correction:indo aryans actually migrated to india, india's natural ethnic population(poo in loos) is dravidian
Charles Wood
He's described as fair skinned and has wavy red hair per testing on his mummy.
While you're correct in saying these aren't exclusively white features, it still presents interesting evidence. (Not black.)
Michael James
>White gods is the belief that ancient cultures around the world were visited by Caucasian races in ancient times, and that they were known as "White gods".
>Based on 16th-century accounts of the Spanish conquistadors being "greeted as gods" by the peoples of the New World, certain modern authors have expanded the concept beyond what is historically verifiable, spreading it to the genre of pseudoarchaeological literature and fringe theorists, such as writers on ancient astronauts or Atlantis, in some instances (such as Christian Identity) even acquiring quasi-religious or racialist (white supremacist) connotations.
That's pretty bad proof for something you seem to believe so dearly.
Jackson Morris
Euro-indigenous R haplogroups are Aryan. But so is Pajeet.
t. Cro-Magnon Ubermensch (not Aryan).
Parker Diaz
>Blacks have lower IQs >Whites are smarter
>Jews have higher IQs >It's all in the nose
Pick one
Nicholas Ramirez
>muh relativism of intelligence No, it's because jews are smarter, dumbass. Let's not be hypocrites here. What makes them so detestable is that they use their intelligence to parasite off of noble and creative races. Jews produce nothing and have an inherent moral bankruptcy. The problem is not that they're stupid, it's that they're evil.
Carter Watson
No one seriously believes the were black. No one seriously believes they were white with the modern white people in mind. Maybe he had light skin for an Egyptian.
Levi Jackson
makes more sense.
Blake Reed
So Aryans aren't the most intelligent.
Thank you for clarifying
Christopher Rogers
pajeet is M7 m80( ethnically native people, like abos os australia). Indo-aryans were settlers.R1b, R1a
Isaac Cruz
We have found R1b remains in Europe that are from 12,000 BC. The Aryans are mentioned much later, in Central Asia, and they were R1a.
Elijah Perez
I pick number two. Whites aren't smart at all. They're just fortunate to have bypassed all the major hurdles early civilizations went through.
William Young
Ashkenazi Jews have a higher IQ than whites on average. Not all Jewish groups. Ashkenazi Jews aren't of the same origin as most Jews. And there are plenty of white groups that have been tested and proven to have a higher average than Ashkenazi Jews. The Quakers are one group. I think if Normans were a legit ethnicity, they would score at least a little higher than Ashkenazi Jews on IQ.
Also, its very rare that any group would be as large as whites, with a typically more robust physical average, and an IQ that is that high (somewhere just over 100).
Basically, you have to go back.
Lincoln Harris
I only know that appearance can't be the defining trait, because I'm white and have blue eyes but I'm not Aryan.
Chase Gutierrez
Who are these aryans?
Austin Green
Do you have any sauce on that number, of 14,000 years ago?
Not being a cunt, legit curious.
The meta meme of Pajeet now covers Pakistan and generally anything brown now user. R1b will never be cro mag, and his lack of ice age survival skills triggers him to this day.
Carter Cook
>Analysis of ancient Y DNA from the remains of populations derived from early Neolithic Central and North European Linear Pottery culture settlements have not yet found males belonging to haplogroup R1b.[15][16] The suggestion has also been made that the spread of R1b in Western Europe may coincide with the spread of the Centum branch of the Indo-European languages during the early Bronze Age. [17]
Carson Morgan
The tower of babel makes more sense if it was what we consider prehistory.
It would have been a meeting point between diverse cultures.
I'd float the idea that it was built pre 20,000 years ago on the Italian land bridge, considering that would be where most travelers to and from Africa and Europe would come from.
Adds a little spiciness to the myth as well, when you consider the diversity of language and culture on either side of where the land bridge was.
Pic unrelated, refer to my previous post.
If you adhere to the out of Africa theory, humans have been migrating for around 100k years before this map, meaning the topography was different. The Mediterranean was a series of deep valleys and large freshwater lakes, fed by a glorious Nile waterfall.
Any civilization located here would live quite comfy...well, until the land bridge breaks apart and floods them.
If only we could find evidence of a giant prehistory flood in ancient mythology...
Noah, Gilgamesh, etc.
Alexander Phillips
I literally don't. I found it once. Point is they separated a while back. An Italian R1b has more genetic affinity with a Greek than with a Russian R1a
I'm certainly glad to see positive discussion on this.
I'll be quite honest, I was expecting to be called a stormfag, and be told to shortly kms.
A good thread lads.
Lincoln Anderson
I believe most wikipedia articles regarding Lithuanian language are outdated. I for sure know that is was thought that Lithuanian was a slavic language or related to slavic language in some way. Pretty sure it was debunked some years ago. Anyway, even our top university says that Lithuanian is NOT a slavic language. >lsk.flf.vu.lt/en/department/courses-for-foreigners/lithuanian-language/ >We often have to explain to foreigners that “No, Lithuanian is not a Slavic language, it’s a Baltic language
We also have extremely unique features in our language that are not present in any other european languages. One unique feature is that we can order the words in any way we want. None of these features are present in Russian.
Nathan Roberts
Dunno. I can't draw certainties from myths. Read Greek and Jewish mythology if you want to be confused about everything.
David Harris
Thanks user. Yea, this is what I remembered. The European R1b branches were descendants of the Yamna and came in the copper age.
Didn't Medbros used to have a much higher concentration of J2 and R1b, back in the glory days of Greece and Rome?
I knew R1b split a long time ago. They'd have to, to be distributed so widely. But I am pretty sure that they came to Europe with the Yamna invasions. And they conquered a people who may not even have had weapons, aside from hunting tools.
What's interesting though, is that maybe less than 100k years ago, I, J (which tends to be in Ashkenazi Jews) and R (as a descendant of K) were one haplogroup, as IJK. And there is a swamp in Germany with thousands of half broken corpses, that were thrown in there after some massive Bronze age war. All paternal lineages indigenous to Europe have been found in that swamp.
This may be irrelevant, but this really did make me think.
Jordan Green
Aryan is just a synonym for White people, it sounds more professional and cool
Gabriel Bennett
chekt
Colton White
This
Noah Walker
buddy no one is saying that Lithuanian is a Slavic language.
Balto-Slavic is another family that diverges into Baltic and Slavic languages. It's generally accepted that Russian and Lithuanian are derivatives of the same proto language.
Adam Moore
We have lots of Aryan admixture. If you cherrypick out of the Finnish genepool you can find people who are more Corded Ware-derived than Lithuanians.