Cred Forums believes that competition between firms leads to higher quality products being made

so what's your proposed alternative to organizing society?

There is no competition in the (((((Entertainment Industry)))))

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how do i demand it, i borought bin bags which didnt work they were basicly plastic sleeves

>yet Cred Forums realizes that the pop industry produces terrible products

Pop industry makes pretty pleasant sounding music, aside from the shit stains singing.

The instruments and sounds orchestrated together are great. The singers and what they say are pretty much all shit.

Anyone listening to pop and likes it, doesn't actually listen to the music, they enjoy the sounds and rhythms of it. Or they just don't give a fuck what the artist is saying/singing.

In fact you can actually trace the decline in competition with the decline in quality

Ohhh idk, maybe because there's a market demand for this kind of garbage as sad and depressing as that may seem?

By pop do you mean soda? I'm not trying to start an argument of semantics I'm just actually not sure what you're talking about.

Your dumb as fuck. If actually believed in free markets and competition they wouldnt be supporting Trump or nationalism.

double edged sword

Also this goes for every industry not just media

I would limit finance to banking and switch health with energy desu

no it's not

It's easy to prevent trusts

all you have to do is enforce anti trust legislation like Teddy did

enjoy your top of the line soviet car, comrade...

other people dont agree that those pop products are bad

food

banking

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>implying jews in media care about profit

Why do you think jews make BLACKED.com porn when they lose money cause white men wont buy it and niggers watch but never pay for anything, and also they have to pay the porn stars 5 times what they would pay her to fuck a white guy. They dont care about money, and making profits.

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Bring out the Dr. Pepper

member when companys went by one name, and when they were bought out, they changed there name.
Didn't we used to do that with countrys?

Did you feel in any way sorry for those business men who left their lives when the twin towers collapsed?

>yet Cred Forums realizes that the pop industry produces terrible products

are you seriously implying that an industry ran by a handful of jews is in competition with itself?

>Cred Forums believes that competition between firms leads to higher quality products being made

No-one has unironically believed this since the industrial revolution.

what we believe is the competitive companies are able to run themselves with generally greater efficiency and prerogative than political bureaucracy, and that profit motivation is the best way to drive competition.

plus, most of us aren't corporate apologists, given how many of us are probably AnCap.

reduce the barrier to entry. (((Labels))) are enormous barriers to entry that maintain a status quo.

They essentially take away the freedom to complete and allow a market to decide and instead only what the label wants gets produced.

If anyone could compete with miley cyrus she wouldn't have ever been a star.

exactly

jews have a monopoly on free money (finance) and can afford to lose money in order to push an agenda. Recently Soros said he'd be paying hundreds of millions making life "easier" for refugees in Europe.

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I'm open to that.

We really need to get the national ignition facility back on track and get us some fusion. Then it's just a hop skip and a jump to robot assembly lines and a nationalist utopia.

Health Insurance monopoly

>all those menorahs

>you will never have another 90s LAN party

feels bad man

Competition in the music/movie industries is at an alltime low, though.

What are there now like only 5 companies that make every piece of mainstream media you will see in the next week and most of what is on youtube?

OP has left the building.

not true, I just keep seeing corporate apologists offering nothing new to the conversation.
They realize pop media is dogshit yet they are okay with it because "it's what the people want :)". that's nonsense to me. why allocate so many resources to that when millions of people in capitalist societies are still going to bed hungry?

No. It's not what people want. It's what people are willing to spend money on, or support via viewship in ad supported channels. Those are two VERY different things.

If there's enough interest from people in something the market isn't supplying, even with fucked up consolidation that we have now, the market will eventually

>why allocate so many resources to that when millions of people in capitalist societies are still going to bed hungry?
Because the people who are willing to spend money on that shit allocate their resources to it.

Hunger is practically eliminated in the west as it is anyways. And that's because hunger elimination programs have been supported to a certain level by voters supporting politicians who pushed it, and by direct contributions from charities.

The will of the people has weighed in on both issues, in the coarse way that things work at this scale.

Can you establish a case for overriding the people here?

>it's not what people want
>it's what people are willing to spend money on
oh yeah those are totally different things. fuck off apologist.
the whole idea of a "dollar vote" is based off the premise of those two things being the same thing
>Hunger is practically eliminated in the west as it is anyways
Not true. Over 1 percent of the west goes hungry each night. That's millions of people. For you to say that's basically eliminates shows that you don't think capitalism can get rid of all hungry. which is true.
>Can you establish a case for overriding the people here?
I'm not sure why you're asking me that question. It's clear that what the people want doesn't lead to good results. That's a case that I don't even need to make. It should be clear to you.

People going to bed hungry isnt someone elses fault.
Its their own fault for being incapable of surviving on their own.

it's the fault of the people because the are using an economic model incapable of satisfying the needs of all members of the society. if they instead chose to use socialism they would satisfy the needs of everyone

>because the are using an economic model incapable of satisfying the needs of all members of the society
Is it? Why? If you say "because people are hungry" that's a tautology.
Theoretically all systems should work. Looking at the problems each one presented gives you a better idea of the issue.

>they would satisfy the needs of everyone
Socialism has never one done that though.

>pop industry produces terrible products

nice bait, skype. Go eat a porkchop.

>Being that poppy

muh Venezuela! idiot

What if I fucking told you. That art is abstract and capitalism doesn't apply to asthetics?

You're acting as if every single person here believes in both of those statements, when that is only true of a small subset of posters. Personally I believe that pop industry is shit, and that capitalism produces what is in the greatest demand at the cheapest price. It is, unfortunately, true that what is in demand, is superficial crap, celebrity worship, and mindless activities for the people of our brave new world.

If pop music is so bad why do people pay good money for it when when there's a glut of pretentious indie shit?

>what are personal tastes and preferences alex

get gassed kike

Corporations exist to profit by supplying something which is demanded. If you demand shit and allow companies to form monopolies or near-monopolies, you shouldn't act surprised when you have few choices and you get shit. Don't buy shitty products and encourage other people to stop buying them too, alternatives may be more expensive but the best way to force a company to make a better product is to stop encouraging them to make shitty products.

>oh yeah those are totally different things. fuck off apologist.

No need to be such a hostile bitch and invent positions for me because you can't comprehend the basic economics of the situation.

You're argument is predicated on the idea that there is "too much" resources allocated to pop music, which you claim is low quality and "not enough" resources allocated to feeding the poor.

The financial success of pop music is predicated on a critical mass of individuals choosing to allocate their money in a certain way. Even if billions of people think it's shit.

>the whole idea of a "dollar vote" is based off the premise of those two things being the same thing
This tells me that you don't understand that concept. Billions of people hate pop music, but aren't concentrated in their taste enough to generate enough economic activity in any alternative to supplant it.

>I'm not sure why you're asking me that question. It's clear that what the people want doesn't lead to good results. That's a case that I don't even need to make. It should be clear to you.
Because tens of thousands of the finest minds in socialism have struggled for decades for a more efficient model and a better world. The wreckage of their economies fill the history books.

Pop music isn't supposed to be of high quality when it comes to art.

It's just trying to represent the current normie lifestyle

whoa it all makes sense now

no

>hurr not everyone played into my preconceived and prejudiced opinions of what i thought they believe
You're the kind of person who calls black people uncle toms if they act respectably.

What an argument! Wowee

Pop isn't supposed to be high quality or special or whatever, that's literally why it's called Pop.

>pop industry is mostly controlled by comunists

At least the Soviets built their own cars instead of outsourcing to Mexico

today OP learned the term cognitive dissonance. congrats OP

Cred Forums believes in verifiable facts
the pop industry produces music that I don't like but that millions do

how aren't you guys dying of cognitive dissonance?

>Cred Forums realizes that the pop industry produces terrible products
"pop" meaning soda pop, or "pop music"? Doesn't matter, both industries continue to make stupid amounts of money selling shit to idiots, so your subjective tastes are irrelevant. How are YOU not dying of cognitive dissonance trying to figure out why you have such "refined tastes" but the majority of the world doesn't agree?

>How are YOU not dying of cognitive dissonance trying to figure out why you have such "refined tastes" but the majority of the world doesn't agree?
How is that cognitive-dissonance :P

Cred Forums believes a competitive market produces what the market actually wants. That's why Americans had corvettes and Soviets had Stasi's. It's not our fault most people have shit taste in music.

>taco bell in us version

funny in the german version it was pizza hut. Because noone knows what the fuck taco bell is here

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