Born into slavery

I totally agree, But all money except for Gold and silver is a lie, All over money can be inflated.
Are you kidding me? A patch of woodland to buy is at cheapest 15k for a few acres and does not include planning permission!
When you hunt for your own food find your own water build your own house, you are free my friend!

oy vey goyim, what are you gonna do?

>that awkward moment when Cred Forums realizes it should support labor movements and unions

That's it.

same shit here and everywhere.

gotta tighten up and make compromises

If i don't buy a house i got two options
>Rent some dump for crazy prices
>Live in a tent

We are like cattle
Sorry brother, Same here only more

>When you hunt for your own food find your own water build your own house, you are free my friend!
How is this any different than simply laboring for a middle man so that you might pursue a vocation more interesting?

Freedom is the freedom to do as you will and as you like. When the majority of your time is taken up finding food to ensure your survival, how is that freedom? You can choose to do otherwise but will quickly die. In this respect, a modern society is far freer.

This
Everyone here likes to try be edge and "Redpilled" but they are in the same boat as refugees, Literately.

Main cost of home ownership in the UK is the land cost. Small island, lots of people, planning laws contain development to a few places = high land costs = small high cost housing.

>Born into slavery

Western governments follow the "Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto" and nobody even notices.

I recommend going to the woods and trying to find food and water, It will give you a buzz that working a repetitive job will never give you.
The buzz will never go away because you always have to come up with new ideas and different stuff to do

the difference is that living in a modern city entrenches you more and more and more.

you see stores full of shit you want to buy all day.
in rural you don't have those temptations of the big city

This thread is depressing, but only because it's completely true.

Please name one. I don't disagree with you, I just can't think of any off the top of my head.

You're implying I've never done this. It's thrilling to you because you're likely working/worked a terrible job and this is a novel experience for you and therefore "good."

Ah yes, I forgot I'm a goy and have no self-control and am subject to purchase every object put in my face.

Try again.

Your parents are good ppl, don't leech.

Get money, start tiny activist groups, live the way you want ppl to live, and try to grow your group.

Despite the U.S. having federally funded institutions, its bureaucrats possess autonomy and can exercise a great deal of agency within their given role.

Take school teachers, for instance. While they have to follow district guidelines and impart "student learning outcomes" to satisfy federal standards, they devise their own lesson plans and have control of their classrooms. To have another teacher sit in and dictate classroom functions over another teacher is pretty much unheard of.

This makes it all the more outstanding that teachers can follow Marxist ideology without having their arms twisted to do so

See even the Jews are feeling it. It's not a race thing as Cred Forums would like to believe, But it's Redpilled to work 40+ hours for chump money right g-guys?

>Your parents are good ppl, don't leech.

How is he leeching? They're the ones who forced him to be on this rock

good job OP, you found out the majority of people on Earth work so they can someday own a house

This is just sad to me. On top of the fact that they pay for the car they use to get to work, which is a job they usually hate being at for the majority of their waking hours

Well am sorry you have such a narrow mind, Perhaps you might be one of the few who have a worthwhile job and i'm pleased for you but the vast majority of people dislike there job and would rather be somewhere else

look at this this way.
monopoly's and big companies don't care if your'e jewish or not. they are everywhere and they want you to pay

>if you get a 30 year mortgage you only start paying off more principal than interest in year 18

Learn "the rule of 72"
You buy one house for yourself and the equivalent of two houses for the bank.

Also fractional reserve banking, the bank just takes your house down payment, leverages it up and loans it back to you, and charges you interest. The bank never really loaned you anything and you slave away for 30 years.

What do you suggest people do? What's your alternative?

Look into antinatalism, my friends. All this pain and suffering could have been avoided if your dad decided not to blow his load in your whore mother's cunt.

Learn from their mistakes and don't reproduce like animals. Spare a life from this world.

>2016
>Still no hyperdrive and colonies on Mars
I feel you man.

Haha i have a job but i only work 17 hours per week, Just enough to pay my mother rent but i have no motivate do some soul killing job.
Good idea Canada i will think on it :)

You're a goddamn NEET talking about how he wants to live innawoods.

Cross the channel and go live in Siberia. Putin was offering up parcels of land there. Go grow your own food and be a subsistence farmer there before making some post showing off your complete ignorance of agricultural life.

I don't know, man. This planet is honestly better off being evisercated.

Fucking dumbasses. It's not the house you are paying out the ass for, it's the land.

Wrong. Apartments are expensive as fuck too, and you don't even get land with those.

Hey everybody, thats prices in my city
5g hashish - 47$
Weed 25-30$ per gramm
5g speed 50$
1g mdma crystalls 70$
I think its so expensive

>tfw not living in Thomas Jefferson's agricultural utopia

The problem is capitalism.

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I just said what to do retard. Invest in the market.

>Rent some dump for crazy prices

Don't live a place with crazy rent prices. Sorry you can't live in New York City without paying a lot of money, but there's an entire country in the middle there.

Washington and Jefferson were aristocrat faggots who just let their slaves do all the work

They probably knew nothing about agriculture

this is defiantly all imported, you need to start homemade industry

The problem is (((capitalism)))

I actually work but only 17 hours so i can just pay my mother rent. Your making a lot of assumptions
I have no interest in leaving my country and moving to Russia and dying alone thank you.
I also have Agricultural experience from helping my mother at her allotment.

Calm your boots, Bootlicker

>$70 for a gram of MDMA
>Expensive

Try living in NZ. It'll cost you more than 300 and it won't even be MDMA.

Your only delaying the inevitable. At least learn some practical skills like woodwork.

Why is it sad? The system has existed like this for a while so a country can have productivity, and that productivity can go into things like farming, resources for things lke electricity, national defense etc My hypothesis is that houses are priced the way they are to boost incentive to be productive.

There are ways to get around it though, you just have to take advantage of opprutunties out there. For example, I know this kids game that pays out people who make content for it from hundreds to thousands of dollars. Some of these people get enough money that they can probably buy a house in the US before they hit the age of 20. You just have to look for economic opportunities

you better add bitcoin to that list. It solves all the problems anti silver and anti gold people purport to exist

What differences does it make? It's not like your going to knock down your house and build something else after you bought it...

Babby's first economic crisis.

How sweet.

>15 years to differentiate economy
>oil crash
>bb import goods

Oh im so sowwy :(

This is surprising?

It can be explained by high school level macroeconomics. If the supply of labor grows significantly faster than the demand for it, the cost will at least stagnate, if not drop. Regardless of whether or not you believe it was morally right to allow women to work (this is another topic entirely, and not one I'm going to debate either for or against), doing so significantly increased the pool of workers. To even further compound the issue, many western societies have been flooded with immigrants.

Your average leftist would argue, "but they only take the jobs no one wants to do!", without realizing that many jobs are by definition both necessary, and undesirable, particularly unskilled jobs. Workers within these fields would once have had the upper hand, due to the fact that these jobs were undesirable. Perhaps it was taxi driving, or sewage workers, or maybe its just a 12 hour per day job in the middle of fucking nowhere for a mining company. Due to the necessity of many of these jobs, employers were forced to offer reasonable compensation for them to offset the conditions and nature of these jobs which make them undesirable, as the pool of workers was limited. Now, though, you have women and immigrants contending for these positions, and hence we're led back to the nature of value and its relation to supply and demand.

If the supply of workers surges, then a corresponding drop in the cost of their labor is inevitable.

This man knows whats up
We need a fucking time machine to fix that problem

Haha, I live in a poor area in Northern England, Did you even bother to check my flag?

What's the game called user?

If you think like this then you hate your parents

I've noticed Alot of sociopathic behavior and hostility and cold detachment in white families

I am Hispanic but raided in white suburbia and was taken aback by how my friends trated their parents and via versa.it's almost like they don't have that natural bond

Im a child and i just realized life is suffering: the post

Hispanics are dumber by nature, so they don't understand higher philosophies like antinatalism. It's okay though

Do you feel that unsettling stirring deep within you?

They call it redpilled here, commies know it as class consciousness.

This has nothing to do with immigrants and entirely to do with women. Women entering the workforce and the expectation to get married created a housing market targeting at people with dual incomes. You are not expected to own a house, you and your wife are. That caused the price of these things to sky rocket, and then that was only made worse by more factors.

The entire reason single women with children are economically the most fucked demographic is because they have to try to take care of the kids on a single income plus child support, and child support completely fucks the economic situation of the father even if he actually pays it fucking everybody involved.

In other words, her shit wage plus his shit wage are now paying for twice the shit when to be able to afford it once you need two incomes. It's all fucked.

>Cred Forums is one person

I bet you go to bed at night thinking you are so smart

but this flow chart explains why you are wrong to support unions outright. It actually depends

Then just immigrate to a country bigger than California.

>Do you feel that unsettling stirring deep within you?

>I can guarantee a man can build a house well under 8 years if he sets his mind to it 43.6 hours per week, Like the average British working hours.

But then where does he get the money for raw materials for the construction? For the architect? Or is he going to design it himself (with the knowledge available online it's probably doable, I don't know about legal).

I agree with you OP

It's not surprising, But i'm not complacent to slave away because of this fact, There must be another way

>unironically believes this
>shares belief on the internet society created

Really stimulates the neurons

this

It's most likely not, as houses have to be built up to codes. There is a lot of bureaucracy involved in making houses and real estate.

The Redpill here is hating other races whilst you work 40+ hours per week for a few coins
Childish and quite sad desu

>tfw you want to be productive but don't want to be a wagecuck

What's to understand? It's a philosophy that is pretty much "I wish I were never born "angsty bullshit.

skins for world of warcraft

Not enough land to live like that.

Overpopulation is the cause. Our economy is oriented towards endless, exponential growth of population, consumption and production capability.
We needed to introduce one-child policy worldwide back when we had the chance - in the 30s or 40s. But industrialists would have none of that, so now we are stuck with perpetually starving Africa, with hideous housing prices all over the world, depleting land and declining fish populations.

Today, the only thing that can save us from complete destruction is a pandemic akin to Black Plague. It will raise price of labor, allowing people to bargain with the state and business. Considering our abuse of antibiotics and population density, it's basically inevitable.

Unfortunately, the elite wormed its way everywhere. They are in the government, they control business, they control media.
Commies are unrealistic, and while classic socialists had solutions, but they are unlikely to work in today's globalized world. Trotsky is the only one who promoted global revolution, but I dislike his focus on workers instead of scientists and engineers.

Why is it angsty bullshit?

The only principle of it is not to breed. It makes sense if you actually have a grip on seeing reality for what it is.

I want newfags to get out

> Urge to assert overlordship intensifies

You're acting as though this is mutually exclusive with what I described. It isn't.

Now with both men and women working, we have twice the supply of workers, and people need two incomes to have a reasonable chance to support their family. I clearly said that if the supply of workers surges, then the cost of their labor will plummet, and this is exactly what I meant.

Well yeah, I'm not happy about it either, but recognizing and solving a problem are two very different things.

source?

All capitalism becomes (((capitalism))). Almost every system involving a lot of people is prone to corruption.

not entierly due to these factors.

land tax and and tax on imported materials for construction has risen as well.
also you have to get approval from the city hall which can take time, all contribute to the cost of housing.
half of it is obviously demand and inflation but still damn expensive

its a kids game that's got a bunch of problem tech-wise with it, why are you still interested in it?

these trips require translation

There's a whole pharmacy to explore famalam, only you have the power to OD however.

All russian drug makers can do is DOx. FSB doesn't want any competition to state-supported opium production.

By definition it assigns a negative value to birth.

To being conscious and getting to experience the miracle of earth...

Somehow negative

it's kinda ironic that housing was cheaper when we had less tools and less efficient manufacturing processes.
Now that we've made it more efficient and got ourselves better tools, it's in effect cheaper (less man hours) to build a home.
However, that's not the case for us. We're paying a bigger % of our salary then ever before. Just look at the prices 10 years ago, 20, 50!

Because you said people make hundreds of thousands making content for it.

Oh it's the cool guys again, Got any new memes?

>life is a gift

LMAO
M
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You're an organic pain collector. Then everyone you've ever known and loved dies, and then you die.

Rent instead of buying?

help people for free, and it will come back with double the strenght when you least expect it

Yea the new thing is not posting for long periods of time. Try it out.

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My people are enslaved to uplift every third world retard like its our fucking job

"organic pain collector"

i like that phrase. gonna use it moving forward.

RIP ego

FUCK ANYONE who buys to rent.
Fucking parasites should hang.

Yea like I said,whiny angsty wish I was never born bullshit.

So deep and intellectual

Humans used to have to compete with other species for resources. Now they mainly compete with eachother. We've always been slaves in a sense. In fact, all animals are.
It's unfortunate that even though we are smart enough to invent some crazy technology and realize this fundamental truth of nature, we are unable to convince enough others to call a truce and break the pattern.

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I'm not trying to be le deep intellectual. That's just what I believe wholeheartedly. Life is suffering, and so no one should force an innocent soul into it, especially if they're working class or below.

> Implying suffering is actually suffering

Isn't lack of purpose is it's own purpose?

Yeah, let's buy tents and live in the woods. Op, this is Cred Forums, so it might seem like I only blame immigrants, but if 5 million immigrants go to the UK, the house prices will skyrocket because of the old "supply and demand". In Oslo, our house prices have risen 21% in about 1 year. 9% in the rest of the country. If they didn't come here, the prices would drop. It is sincerely the immigrants' fault that the new generation are struggling to succeed. The same goes for jobs. They work for fuckall, so employers hire them instead lf norwegians. The same goes for almost everything. Less people= cheaper to live. Cred Forums is always right. Remove them out of the equation, and you'll have a good time.

I was actually thinking about setting up some sort of Hot Food/Drink stand in my city for the homeless this winter

I know, We are fucked

for decades many people start their own business doing things they like.. why is this generation only considering being a wage slave?

No, I said they can make hundreds /to/ thousands of dollars depending on how much they luck out

Supply and demand is a meme, so is economics in general really, look at the ridiculousness that is the UK housing bubble.

> Attempting to apply logical thinking and rational processes to an externally influenced process

The predatory stage is still ongoing.

buy an apartment, rent them out and never have to work. its that a great idea?

Buys to rent out? I do it. Many people don't want to own their own place. Others aren't capable of saving up 15% of the total sum the house they want costs, so they rent until they have enough.

No that's is immoral, I don't believe i should buy up all the flats i can to rent out at high prices, Thus in turn making all flats more expensive to buy for renters

Fuck off shekel grabber

>let's buy tents and live in the woods
Illegal))))

There were less people back then.

Same reason I don't hunt my food or power my craptop by potatoe alone, shits impractical yo.

Look at the market we have at the moment, or the one we've had since guilds stopped being a thing.
Anyone can start a business, but odds are you're never get rich off it, and what's the point then?

>FUCK ANYONE who buys to rent.
>Fucking parasites should hang.
how dare anyone find a way to earn $$ without being a wage slave! Is there a reason you won't do it?

It's the best idea i. The world. I bought a second home. The renters pay for it and I make a profit too. The house price rise over the years, so it's a win for the ones who rent out. It's a little bit shitty if I want to sell it tho. I have to live there for a year, or I have to pay 28% tax on the profit over the sum I bought it for. If I paid 1 million, waited 10 years and sold it for 2 millions, I'd have to pay 280 000 in tax.

Because the elite erected market barriers so severe you won't get over them unless you are friends with someone influental.

You will be called gomunist in 3... 2... 1...

its no different than buying property and reselling for a profit. Are you against profit user? Would you work for free?

You do of course realise this kind of thinking is why house prices are constantly rising over here as the wealth requirement becomes ever yet higher rendering more and more people indefinitely locked out of the property market further rising dependency of the yet more fragile housing market upon the very thing that's making it yet more fragile.

how rich will you get if you don't even try?

Yes. Only jews are allowed to make money?

Poor bastards, I pay between 10 and 30 a gram for pure MDMA. The again there's nothing else to do in this country.

Illegal? Not in Norway at least.

>17 000 000+ km2
>Not enough land to live like that.
You could live in rural Siberia, totally self sustaining, without anybody ever bothering you.

Theoretically I could spend all my NEET bucks on scratchcards and subsist off of rainwater and dog shit.
The reason I don't is the the same reason most folks don't try the whole entrepreneur thing.

Stop now or you will regret it

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Cepaнyл тeбe зaщeкy

This is why houses are so expensive in the first place because people and companies can easily buy cheap houses/flats and rent them for extortionate prices. It's a immoral practice.
Especially on a small island like Britain.

He's against profit as the end goal.
Economy, law, religion and everything must be means to an end, just tools to support neverending and ever-accelerating cultural, technological and scientific progress. In one word, creation.
Economy doesn't create anything, it's just a labor/money distribuiton system.

>You do of course realise this kind of thinking is why house prices are constantly rising over here as the wealth requirement becomes ever yet higher rendering more and more people indefinitely locked out of the property market further rising dependency of the yet more fragile housing market upon the very thing that's making it yet more fragile.

The "Free" market is a meme.

Not in Norway. The 15% rule fucks them over. If they want to buy a house, which are around 4 000 000, they'd have to have 600 000 (15%) of the total sum on their names before they buy. The politicians are the ones fucking them over. Without that rule, lots and lots more could get a house. If they are close to getting 600 000 after saving for years, the house peices have gone up even more, so they suddently need 800 000 to get the 15% quota. I think I'm helping them. I charge way less than what I could charge too for the rent since I'm honestly a little wealthy and don't want to screw the little guy. The family that rents my other home loves me because they lived in a mold shithole with water leaks and I charge less than that place. The house I rent out looks really good too, so yeah. I'm nnot the jew.

you are surprisingly true in your observations for an anglo-saxon. you know what caused the world to be this way? the anglo saxon race. the anglo saxon aristocracy mixing with the ashkenazi aristocraxy has produced this world. you anglo are the chief reason why this exists.

and another thing about your house analogy. a man does no necessarily has to build the house all on his own. he can get his family and even extended family friends and relatives to build it for this as well. there are clans in pakistan that have to villages to themselves. one for the winter other for the summer. when the weather gets too much in one village they all collectively move to the other village. these houses are built using mud-bircks and have no electricity and running water. these people come together to help each other build everyones house. this has been going on for centuries.

in a slave society there is only one currency and it is issued by the elites in a top down fashion. but in a society or free there are many forms of currencies and they are born from the grass roots and rise upwards.

in the current "enlightened and civilized" system, created by the parasite, store owners throw out their merchandise when their groceries when they can no longer sell it rather than find a way to trade with sme homeless beggar living across the street from them. such are the fruits of civilization. in a savage society that homeless guy will be given more respect. the one with groceries with find a way to trade with homeless by using the true human currency (trust and honor), which are repaid with future acts of trust and honor. this is how it has been for thousands of years in free societies.

it is only the civilized races that cannot see that the true currency of human beings in trust. that is why even the banks issue money as "credit". the word credit share the same root as creed, as in belief/trust. to issue credit to someone is to claim that such a person in credible. (cont. later)

>without anybody ever bothering you
KEK. We had sectants try to live innawoods, cops drove hundreds of kilometers through taiga to evict them from federal land, and threw repeat offenders into prison.
Some asshole hunter saw tracks and reported them.

Remote parts of Siberia are uninhabitable bog or privatised by oil companies.

>uplift

buttblasted fascist detected

Wew that's fucking retarded, did the oil monies do that?

That said good on you not going full fuhrer landlord.

Always was. Those who promote "free market" are either jews (codeword for financial elite) themselves, their pets, or deluded people who think they can become jews. Sad!

Economy shouldn't be left in hands of those whose foresight ends with current financial quarter or five-year plan.

That's nice of you, A bright bulb in a world full of profit though misery

We'd be fine if you mongs stopped breeding and providing capitalists with cheap workforce AND demand for housing.
Stop. Fucking.

>This planet better off being eviscerated since people have to work for a living.

Listen up, Jamal. Quit buying into the black lives matter bullshit. The world owes you nothing. Society owes you nothing. There is no other system, nor has there ever been another system, for life. Period. Wake the fuck up. Be productive. If you have any drive at all to do a good job and don't buy into all the materialistic bullshit, you can have a nice bank roll to do whatever you want with your life.

I'm a mixed Afro-Saxon so don't blame me lad

Been sneaking into the study again have we Ahmed?

It's a scam as old as civilization: get control of the money supply and inflate the middle class into insolvency so you can live like a king and everyone else is your slave. The saddest part is, those who kill the golden goose to get all the eggs at once are ultimately the first put up against the wall when it all comes apart. If people at the top would be happy with what they could get without reducing society to shambles, everyone would be better off.

They crested that rule so that people wouldn't loan more money than they could pay back to the banks. It is security. I think it's the dumbest rule in the world, but it prevents a property bubble where the house prices would be similar to the situation the states were in. That bubble fucked so many people over, and I heard some old folks killed themselves in that crysis. They are trying to do the right thing, but in the end, the poor gets fucked and even the lower middle class.

trust is the true currency of humans. humans issue trust to whoever they want and in whatever quantity they want .and when humans decide they take that trust away as well. but the civilized system of the parasite has banks that issue trust certificates called credit or currency to whoever they want. the common man must give his trust to the ones who have these trust certificates issued to them by the banker. you might say that you are not issuing your trust to your employer but you would be right in name only. all the benefits that the person called employer accrues by gaining your trust are already his once he has the trust certificates issued to him by the GOD that issues all trust/currency. you only get to pretend that your will is your own.

every man is born with the power to issue currency. our power to issue our natural currency, trust, is taken away from us. so that we are slaves in all but name. slavery has been made universal and the race that did it claims to be the first race to end slavery. never before in human history were so many enslaved by so few. the races that have never been enslaved in their entire existence are for the first time enslaved. and the parasite whose culture did all this claims to spread freedom around the world.

What other option is there? Is your idea of freedom being a slave to nature and spending every moment you can working just to survive let alone live, instead of working 8 hours a day? You sound like an overly idealistic lib

Now this is a real "Redpill"
Good stuff mate!

its not preventing a property bubble though?

Anyone else thought ops pic was a nu bomb?

Goyim, I....

Start an internet business of some kind, establish your company offshore so you don't pay any tax and go and live in some cheap country.

Retards. Rent and save everything you can. Be frugal. Get some credit cards and build good credit. Pay down all short term debt and pay off your credit card each month. Make sure you budget. Find an undervalued home in an area that's growing. Put down 3%. Live in it 6 months then rent it. You have equity. Get another home in similar price range. Repeat this as much as possible. If you buy a $350k home every 5 years until you own 5 then after 30 years given inflation and continuing rates of home price appreciation coupled with total collected rent minus costs of ownership, you'll have close to $8M worth when you go to sell homes.

That's the slow way to do it. You can find hard money lenders that will kick you $ briefly to buy a home the bank won't finance that you can flip for the arbitrage. Quit being idealist fucks. Make some money while you can and in your spare time focus on how to contribute to bitcoin2.0 whenever that happens.

>nigger
>understanding higher morals and logic
You are a slave breed, so the lowest beast instincts are what drives your kind

wtf does that even mean? capitalist, communism, socialism, marxism, fascism are all different faces of the same beast. these things have nothing to do with my people, culture or history. why the fuck should i care to accomodate your systems. what kind of people even define themselves your economic systems? what does that say about your morality? all i care about is getting free of this system. the europeans will always fester in their filth that is called civilization.

wtf does this post even mean? it makes even less sense than the post i replied to above. i do not go to any study to understand what i said. these things are and have been part of my culture for thousands of years. the same culture that your parasite race has been trying to wife out for the last 300 years. if you only you fought like men, instead of sneaking about and whispering like women, the matter would have been resolved long ago. you are a race of women playing at being men.

> Becoming a part of the problem

American dream strikes again

You can also do what I did. Focus on systems with leverage. I studied forex for a year then opened a forex account and began to trade with a training account. I then put in some $ and began to trade real money. Some forex sites you can get 100:1 leverage meaning you put in 1000 you get 100,000 to trade with. Trade on the 4H bars. Practice practice practice. You can trade 24hours a day, 5.5 days a week from anywhere.

Fuck, you don't even need this

I bought an apartment at less than 1 year of after tax salary for me. According to my bankman I could have bought something 3,5 times more expensive

You choose yourself how shackled you want to be

I'm not 100% sure. We habn't had one yet. When the economy crysis fucked the whole world over, Norway was sitting in the corner with no problems at all. So I guess it works?

Well you're broke and I'm fucking rich. Now I'm working on how to fuck the system up because I have the time AND the money.

I tried posting this as its own thread before (and may yet again), but since it's kind of relevant re: the futility of it all.

It's a spam email I received in 2002 (but some people received it the year before, before 9/11 even)

pastebin.com/SW6x0sU8

> thousands of years

Yeah alright Iskander, let us know when you've got your feudalism issue ironed out and maybe you might graduate past not-quite-arab-tier.

the turest redpill is that there is no such thing as "the economy". there is only human relations. people relate with different people based on different criteria that they determine themselves.

the concept of the economy is a sham, a fraud. it is created to take power away from the common man by telling him that he will not understand. as if human relations require an unnatural system to elites to manage. all that is required for a human society to function is already written into us by the same nature that evolved us. this attempts at managing us is really an attempt to breed us into a form of cattle.

this is how free animals are converted into cattle by human beings. read up on how animals have been bred by different people over thousands of years. the civilized man in to the free natural man what the pet decorative dog is to a wolf. even though they may mix and produce viable offspring but are they the same species?

what we really need to do is get together and collaborate an idea and figure out a way to make money off of the general herd of people with the pompous attitude of greedy narcissists like this guy too many people are like that

Ignore them, There trying to be cool again. Look on with contempt

The reason housing prices are fucking ridiculous now is globalization really. It's an international market, and rich fuckers from other countries can buy your houses even if they wont live in them. It's just something they like to do to protect their wealth.

Most of the current economic, inequality, and unemployment problems all stem from globalization. The International Elite however become incredibly rich by playing this game well. Local populations lose. Question is when those local populations are going to rise up an rebel. We seem to be seeing the start of it this year.

haha not for long.
people will stop renting at some point.

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The holy books of anglos/jews, warn against usery.. I dont know when or how people decided to ignore that. But it drives the economic growth, which drives the population growth, which drives the human misery; not sustainable long term.
Europeans developed the banking /compound interest lending system in the middle ages too. The knights templar etc.
You are right about trust/honour being devalued under the current system. That's a real problem, because dishonourable people will always find weaknesses in the system to exploit, no matter how fool proof you try to design it, so dishonourable people have an advantage over honourable ones.
I'm not religious at all, but I think usery is definitely the root of the problem and is common practice everywhere even though most of the holy books warned against it thousands of years ago.

I could get behind this

THERE MUST BE A BETTER WAY

Communism does not like private property for plebs, so banks have pushed Buy to Let mortgages to put house prices out of reach of many people. There is no such thing as a free market. Capitalism and Communism use the definition of Man as an economic unit to be exploited. Stratification of the British starts with schools. The Middle Class have a lot more to answer for than Toffs, as they are the prime source of gatekeepers and exploiters. I spit on my ancestors for failing to deal with these ghouls.

Also

'Waah houses are more expensive now!'

Wahh fucking wahh

Go live in a treewalled cottage of 45 m2

Amodern house, with good insulation, often has + 130m2

You can easily find small houses with shit insulation for cheap

Hell, right now, on Mors, I could buy a threelegged farm with 3 hectares of land for 35000$

But no, you morons wannt a pizzaria and a computer store on the corner
Rural living is the true repill, you citydwellers are the original cucks

Indeed, You're very intelligent.

The reality is there's no such thing as auntie blobboringetty's favourite bottlecap, there is only seratonin.

You see Faruk, you're telling it how it is and that's great.
But it's also purposeless since the individual has no real significance, unless they're either somewhere critical in the pyramid or can affect someone who is, even then they don't count for much.

> There must be another way

The day you realize you are fucked it's already too late

It'll only end up "yeah we can all be rich, you just have to give me money" kind of thing.

>how to spot a bot

>rise up with your wooden pitchforks and torches against the railgun satellites orbiting over you with gps guidance systems while your holding a gps phone oh fellow goy peasants!

go datamine some more to try to manipulate us more google shill bot

the economy is real. we just let too many people have too much credit

banks bailed out, everyone suffers.
government is the problem

I could make a board on 8-chan for this topic and we can discuss ideas that can free us and the rest of the world?

You know what's a fun exercise?

Reading the communist manifesto and then looking at what the powers that be are pushing us towards.

It's uncanny!

Very true OP. Dis made me think.

Most of us live within a form of indentured servitude, even the most 'privileged' of us live within a form of debt bondage to some degree. The only people with true freedom are those who live without debt.

And this model works for the powers that be, in the past the most liberal and innovative cultural ideas arose from the leisured class. Think of the great thinkers of 19th century.

That's partly why Hillary wants to raise estate taxes - it's closing off the final loop of a learned class.

bhenchod, my race has never had feudal slavery until the creation of the nation state. the nation state is the highest form feudalism has yet achieved and you faggots pretend that you are no longer living under feudalism.

showing me a map with some lines means nothing in my culture haram zaday. it is a thing your race cannot comprehend. you are a different species from me. if i am human then you are not and if you are human then i am not.

the wolf is not like the dog. the only way i can show a glimpse of what i say to a lower species such as yours is with a story.

three dogs are walking along. each one has a collar. one is gold the ther silver and the third led. the dog with the gold collar says to the one with the silver collar, "my master is richer than yours and he loves me more that is why he gave me a gold collar. the dog with the silver collar says to the one with the led collar, "my master is richer than yours and he loves me more that is why he gave me a silver collar".

then the three dogs see a wolf. they cannot figure out what kind of a dog that is and begin observing closely. suddenly the dog with the led collar exclaims in excitement, "my master is richer and loves me more than his, for he has no collar at all". to the slave having a master is like gravity, a law of nature. it exists everywhere. the mind of the slave cannot comprehend the state of not having a master. even when he is told that such a state exists in someone's culture, he can only consciously acknowledge it. in his subconcious/gut/instinct/intution there is no way to compute such a master less system and figure out all of its implications.

even though the wolf and the dog mixing together can produce virile offspring, are they the same speices?

Yepp, banks are the problem.

So what you're saying is because the anglo construction industry isn't staffed by barebacked 8 year olds we're clearly subjugated?

I mean don't get me wrong it's pretty bloody obvious there's lords and masters where we are but your lot ain't exactly BOOORN FREEEE.

the economy is based on demographics, do you run the numbers on how many babies got aborted verses born? do you run the numbers on generation amounts as well as the differences in income vs. value of purchasing price decade by decade? factories have gone to 3rd world nations. there isn't any viable high high worker amount demand these days for standard middle income fields of work, trying to start from scratch as a younger generation than anything younger then baby-boomer is utter horse shit compared to 3-4 decades ago for anyone who is trying to establish themself or become in the range to ever hope to do what their parents did decades and years ago.

The housing market is cyclical and greatly affects the ability to do this. It works well when everyone is having their homes foreclosed, have bad credit, and need a place to stay. It doesn't work so well in a housing boom when everyone is buying a home. You really need two years worth of expenses in the bank for each house for the bad times when they sit empty.

>The reality is there's no such thing as auntie blobboringetty's favourite bottlecap, there is only seratonin.

classic conman. first you intentionally refuse to put what i said in context and then create another lie that only sounds good to you, in order to satiate your vanity.

>You see Faruk, you're telling it how it is and that's great.
>But it's also purposeless since the individual has no real significance, unless they're either somewhere critical in the pyramid or can affect someone who is, even then they don't count for much.

that is true for you and your culture. you are a slave living in a society of slaves with a culture of slaves. for men who seek freedom in your society, there is only damnation and death. that is how all races breed themselves, by killing off the ones that are likely to go against their morality. fortunately for me, this is not true about people how have lived in the land of indus river for over a thousand years. we have tens of millions of free men that know slavery when they see it.

I'm sorry Jahan I truly am, but muh freiderm and muh culture and muh civilisation don't really count for all too much when it comes to not being ruthless exploited.
But it's good you've developed such excellent self worth in response, you'll last longer. maybe be more productive.

what happens to one's body cannot always be controlled. such is the law of the universe. but the mind is another matter entirely. if an outwards entity has enslaved some people, then as long as their mind remains strong, they can always go back to the original state. the fact that you equate being enslaved with a slave mind goes to show something about your mind. your race has been enslaved for more than a thousand years. and the civilization that you are so proud of has existed in its slave parasitic existence since the recorded history of greeks and romans.

what has happened to my people is not a direct result of my culture. my culture is only at fault for not recognizing the parastie and its cons and not having the will and character to fight against it.

like i said, the dog cannot comprehend the ways of the wolf.

You sound like a good guy, my rent is at 4400 NOK for 27 m2, meanwhile a friends family is paying 4000 NOK for a whole house..

So Temur what you really mean is that pic related is nice and all but without the right mental attitude it's just not worth it?

Tell me something I don't know.

You put too much value for things (objects) and "security". It's better to live free (w/o masters) and barefooted, struggling to get food. Then to live as a slave with a golden leash and steady food put in front of you. It's a scary prospect for a house Google, I know.

Of course something is wrong. Back in the days where the earth had yet to be mapped and explored curious minds spent their time trying to understand the world we live in. Nowadays we are constantly bombarded with information and it's to be honest it's very useful. Using search engines to research history and math or even recipe instructions is life on easy mode. What did we lose gaining this technology though? What are we missing now? The answer to this question will answer yours.

time is the fire in which we all burn op...

> House Google
> House

Not everyone is so lucky, we're fortunate to get a few hours rest a week in our shacks before returning to back breaking manual labour in the sweltering heat and humid- oh wait it's England not Sindh, we have it so much worse than those mighteh hindustanis.

We've only been conquered a few times in recorded history you see, not like those guys in the west of the subcontinent who've been rolled over by Buddha only knows how many kingdoms empires and nomadic hordes... Fortunate sons truly, must really appreciate the whole "not being servile underlings" thing.

we dont need a revolution from banks to live like an ape in a forest, i can go into my backyard and build a shanty fort and eat fruit off my tree for a half a week at least then come up with some master plan to steal from the backlot of a super market throwing out food and shit back there and drink from the hose and not pay for it if i hack the water terminal if i had to. i also have a special water-key that can hook into those handle-less faucets in the backside of schools and shopping centers and get free water if i really really really wanted to but i have never once did. fact is I'm cozy and also comfy. life is hell sometimes but other times its just fine most of the damn time. you see, the people at the top of the pyramid claim they will be the only people left eventually who will be the wild-men untainted by things and pure. there are some breeds of dogs that are rather similar to wolf such as the dingo and dogs are known to be able to regain patterns close to the wolf after generations go by and adapt. what you don't seem to grasp is my question: Why would it be important now to try and be more like a natural-man when clearly we are in a direction that is headed to a more technological and complex world with things unseen by most and known about by few. clearly there should be some emphasis on developing the capability to deal with both the natural and technological as well as the skillset(s) necessary to delve into both perspectives, no?

Eat shit OP. It is very simple, you conform or gtfo innawoods.

>2016 still no hover boards
Hollywood shekelberg lied to me.

I just want an isolated stone cottage on an isolated welsh hillside where I can work the land and lift and be free of the problems of the world.

ITT: Neets justify being lazy shits.

Not everyone is so lucky, we're fortunate to get a few hours rest a week in our shacks before returning to back breaking manual labour in the sweltering heat and humid- oh wait it's England not Sindh, we have it so much worse than those mighteh hindustanis.

that is the result of western civilization. i had said in an earlier post that a slaves cannot comprehedn the implications of being free. i never said that our bodies are free at this point in time. in fact i made that clear that the parasite has infected us with the nation state virus that it carries in its belly. moreover, my posts implicity spoke of two kinds of slavery body and mind without explicitly stating it. but the slave races full of vanity are too superficial to comprehend such difference.

>We've only been conquered a few times in recorded history you see, not like those guys in the west of the subcontinent who've been rolled over by Buddha only knows how many kingdoms empires and nomadic hordes... Fortunate sons truly, must really appreciate the whole "not being servile underlings" thing.

LOL, your entire identity is constructed those who have enslaved you for atleast a thosand years.

for the last bit, the fact that you think that an army passing through a hundred miles from my village means that i have been conquered is only because of the slave concepts that you use to comprehend human identity and culture.

also no kingdom or empire has ever rolled over us. and those horse riding hordes of tribes from central asia are the ancestors of most of us in land of lndus river and its mountains(hindu kush). just because a foreign army marches even a mile from my house does not mean that it has conquered or enslaved us. i have reason to fight them only if the army aggresses against what i and my people consider their interest.

one can own empty land as much as one can own the water in the rivers or the air we breathe. the west's feudal way of claiming empty land as one's own is disgusting

he meant 550$ per month
median russian wage is 7000$ per year. All the taxes and pension giveaways are already excluded and take approximately from 5`000$ to 9`000$. That's why GDP is >14`000$.
In reality you can get bloody tops freshly built central street 100 square meters for 100`000$.
But there is a tendecy to go back "inna woods" and get houses built from scratch for 50`000$ to 200`000$.
Also house crediting is pretty neat and not that jewy and govt supported.

>Caring about hoverboards
not caring about the future of your country

>being a wagecuck in Y2k16

If you are stupid and can't use tricks and build a good System it's your fault

"It will be 25+ years before it can be paid for."

That's why they call it a Mortguage; which translates to "deaths pledge" because you pledge to pay it off JUST BEFORE you die.

Also; left wingers have been complaining about this for 40 or so years now. (pic related)

If you say so Yousef.

In all honesty it's nice you consider yourself to have the strength of will to put yourself above worldly hierarchy, it's a shame it's not a more common attitude with your neighbours and their fixation with divine order.

i see, that is funny coming from an american. tell me what happened in the 1929-1930s. whta is the great depression. when i was in america they told me the great depression happened because of the stock market collapse. and I them a question that they could not answer. maybe you can answer it.

how did bunch of fat pigs in suits moving around some paper, writing on some papers and stamping some papers cause the arable land to shrink, rivers to dry up and fish to die. the tree in the forests to disappear and the game animals to die ?

irony of your post is that even what you claim is not possible in your major cities. it is only possible in rural areas. the thing about america is that it is was a virgin continent only a few centiuries ago. it had not yet seen the poison of western civilization. america even today has the greatest easily accessible above ground natural resources to population ratios in the world. from plenty of agricultural land per capita to fresh water per capita to forests with game animals, i do not think one can find that my resources per pop. density anywhere else in the world. same goes for being able to construct your home you wood or mud bricks cooked in a homemade kiln. back then in the 1930 the pop. density was even smaller and the resources even larger(the chopping of forests has severly curtailed the game and fish and usable wood for home building) , then how is the great depression possible.

>Why would it be important now to try and be more like a natural-man when clearly we are in a direction that is headed to a more technological and complex world with things unseen by most and known about by few

truth is determined by the laws of the universe that created nature. only the way of nature is true. your way is of vanity and will only lead to your doom. the tragedy is that for as long as humanity is enslaved by the nation state disease impost on it by the parasite species, humanity will walk into the abyss with you.

>THE BLACK PILLLLLL

kek

those who seek divine order such that they do not consider any thing or anyone on earth holy,sacred or divine, they only seek the way of nature. since the creator if nature has determined the truth by the laws it created to govern the universe. those who seek the order of the true creator only seek to live in nature and will never accept the will of men over them.

Jose Luis, what country?
Soon we'll be leeching you faggots since you were so kind to create this shit in the first place. By you I mean EU and the glorious stars on our toilet paper flag.
Also I would be worried about the same thing if I were you.

less people more space, go live in a cabin in the forest might be cheap

Only Gold and Silver is money ... everything else is credit.

If you want to be a rich man - have a read of 'Rich dad Poor dad' .... you have never been taught this - trust me Anons

Have a look at Goldsilver.com - house prices are about to crash. Where in the North do you live?

All animals do is hunt and be hungry, until they get an opportunity to mate.

Even as a wage cuck you get more out of life than most animals.

And the better alternative to being a "wage slave" is...?

>fascism
>these things have nothing to do with my people, culture or history
Wrong. Theocracy is allah-flavored fascism.
I said plenty about my morality. What leads to creation and progress (and therefore prosperity) is moral, what doesn't isn't moral.
Creating art and discovering the world is our sole path to singularity, the end goal of humanity, and therefore moral.
Murder, theft, destruction/waste of natural resources, despoiling cultures are immoral.
All morality you possess is "mullah said so".

Wolves?
You and people like you never stop to think if you are being exploited. What's worse, you glorify your slavers and your chains. You defend them. When people of Europe will bring down their corporate oppressors, you will cry, bitch and moan, because your mullah (shareholder at Nike) told you to.

>depends on loans
>I'm fucking rich
Actually, I am richer. You are balls deep in debt, I'll be laughing all the way to my commieblock while you are hauled off to debtors prison (tm) by Nestle's PMC from your foreclosed house.

You fell for the real estate hawaiian jap meme

It's called existential depression OP.

The question theorized by many and answered by very few, is why? What is there to life?

>protip
>the biggest red pill is that our freedom is perhaps the biggest problem with modern society

In older societies, the meaning of life and questions why we are here were answered with religious faith. People did what they did because they had faith God put them here for a reason. It was far easier to keep moving along.

Nowadays, even the religious don't feel the same way. Midlife crisis happen because of this loss of way. Now that we are free to believe and think and feel anything we desire, we have found life has no inherent meaning. There is no purpose to our being. Everyone will get through this epiphany at some point.

We are free to do anything without boundaries. We are the gods of our own existence. Now we have lost all basis and reason for being.

>tldr

I believe you feel trapped despite knowing you can do anything because absolute freedom has no value, while a structured life pushes you towards meaning.

It's a clash of desires.

>I'll be laughing all the way to my commieblock

We are born into a prison of our own vices. It's designed this way.

Become a breatharian today.

LOL. the dichotomy of religion and politics created by western civilization does not exist in our culture. we have never been slaves of any mullah. it is only with the creation of the nation state (western culture) that those who seek to control our way of life in all or any guise have gained power over us. it was not that long ago that still many people living in the land called russia were free, before the creation of the russian nation state and identity. you are a follower of the religion is progressivism founded on the myth of human progress and the delusion of enlightenement. you think the west has left behind religion but the reality is that the west is no different than what it was a thousand years ago. there has been no progress, if anything things have degenerated. the current western religion that denies it is a religion is an even greater con than the religion before it i.e. christianity. just because you created a category of religion to define your previous way of life and category of politics to define your current way of life does not mean that you have left delusion myth and control by priests.

all the west has done is creat a new mask on their way of life and accuse their ancestors of being inferior for following the same way of life, but with a different mask. this pattern had repeated and will repeat in the future as well. centuries from now, if you race survives, your descendants will create a new mask for your way of life and accuse you of having been inferior for following the same way but with a different mask. such is the way of your speices. you religion is the way of vanity and your god is the goddess of vanity. she is the goddess that gave birth to your race. all you religions/politics are just different masks you put on the same way of life.

truly, the dog can never comprehend the wolf.

how does one become a breatharian?

is it possible that the tribes of Afghanistan are the last truly free men?

Only time and Jewish-Funded Case Studies will tell.

What's that?

there are some free tribes in the mountains of pakistan that have been bombed and free tribes in the mointains of yemen that have are being bombed and some free tribes in africa too. in general whereever there are people who live in a culture free of hierarchy they are being bombed. the same goes for the chechens in the caucasus mountains as well. although their struggle was polluted by the saudi wahabi scum. they have also polluted other struggles by honorable muslim populations as well.

i think a day is coming when at-least many millions of people in afghanistan and pakistan will rise in anger due to the sheer fact of their number and unique cultural hatred towards being ruled.

Over 30 years - it practically doubles goy... maybe don't buy a house... wait unit after the house bubble pops and get a house at 50% off

ecofascism.com/review21.html

read it

>Rich dad Poor dad
Holy shit what a annoying book. It would have been 2 pages if he didn't repeat all the time.

Work at a meaningless job and spend free time wasting it on trivial shit, like movies, bowling, traveling, partying etc. Described 80-90℅ modern society. Plus all the modern mental illnesses. Would be better of living like animals, fighting for survival.
>animals live longer in captivity
And humans are animals. Live safe and long or let go of your fear and live free. Ain't no glory in just living long.

animals only live longer in captivity due to proper dieting, a wild lion will live way shorter cus he only eats raw meat

Holy shit you're smart and wise,user. Can't help to think that you didn't gather knowledge herding goats. Wisdom yes but knowledge of history and such no.

>don't reproduce, let your bloodline die

No. I want a little bit of me to live on through my descendents

>blaming taxation
good start
>not mentioning usury
good goy

If you think all pakis are goat herders then you're no better than a goat that is being herded

>I can't understand the concept of trading

He talks about he's life with the tribe, away from central government.

DO YOU HEAR THE PEOPLE SING?
SINGING THE SONG OF ANGRY MEN!
THIS IS THE MUSIC OF THE PEOPLE
WHO WILL NOT BE SLAVES AGAIN

youtube.com/watch?v=TEiTKloMgBg

If he has access to the internet then I'm pretty sure he's more than your average village goatfucker.