atheists will trot out the "advances in science and understanding of the natural world" line, but that's irrelevant, because God involves non-materialist concepts and ideas. to simply understand that an object is made up of atoms, in no way "closes the gap" in a God of the gaps argument.
the theological position would be that we happen to be going through a Sodom and Gomorrah period, or a period similar to when Israel went after other Gods and God let them do so; if i had to guess, this would probably be the situation. maybe, because we still live in countries (including Europe) where the social norms that christianity brought, are still felt (though these norms are retreating rapidly) has deluded people into thinking these christian morals just came from nothing, and they'll only miss them when they're gone... it's a possibility.
it seems that a significant number who identify as christians on Cred Forums, do so because they appreciate the societal benefits of christianity, but don't actually believe it.
Ethan Scott
I believe in God, many many gods.
Jack Gray
I truly believe in God, but I don't ever go to church. I hate most priests, because they are what gets people away from God. Tradition isn't as valuable as being good person. And mind me good person =/= spineless cuck. Being nice to murderer won't ever going to work, but we have to be hard, because it is the sin that we have to condemn, not person.
I understood that there must be a God, because I found the darkness. I understood everything, because of this. I don't believe that Evil is here, because of God. Adam and Eve have chosen to know what Evil is, so God have to allow Evil to exist. It was our choice and it is passed to every child.
Also I believe that we are living in a period, where great change will happen and Anti-christ will be defeated
Dylan Thomas
>it's another Cred Forums "christian" thread
Connor Bailey
>what stops people in 2016 from believing in God?
As has always been the case, Satan.
Brody Edwards
paganism is actually even worse than abrahamic religions Can we consider marxism as a religion?
Kevin Harris
Why would I worship a deity whose only claim to existence are ancient middle eastern folk tales? What makes it more real or believable than all other ancient folk tales?
Owen Roberts
Our religion supports evolution at least.
Grayson Thompson
>God involves non-materialist concepts and ideas. to simply understand that an object is made up of atoms, in no way "closes the gap" in a God of the gaps argument.
That's what I love about you Abrahamic religion believers, that confirmation bias is always strong with you.
When Darwin first came out with his theory you all called him a heretic and should burn in hell, now you people are saying his theories are compatible with God's plan
When Gallileo got cucked by the Catholic Church for his discoveries you all were disgusted that someone could even think that way, now you accept that the earth revolves around the Sun
Now when physicists prove the existence of a particle you initially call it bullshit like you did in the 20s, then some years later you cling to the same idea that it was God's plan all along
Truly your religion is like a lizard, conforming to whatever is socially acceptable at the time. Not surprising considering it came from Jews
Chase Brooks
Hinduism is monotheistic you retarded poo. Everything is an incarnation of Brahma
Eli Butler
Do you actually expect a serious answer on Cred Forums, OP?
People will just spam fedora images to any counter-argument. Both actual Christians, and 'cultural Christians' who see Christianity as western heritage under attack by liberals and muzzies.
Zachary Williams
Believing in God doesn't make you redpilled, you faggots.
It means that you're gullible enough to be used and manipulated by the truly redpilled.
See Mussolini.
Connor Torres
This.
Justin Fisher
Not Brahma, Reincarnation of Vishnu.
Easton Parker
it can support whatevet but monotheism is the next step in cultural development of any society and the fact you're still polytheists means your society is backward compared to monotheistic ones
Xavier Brown
I thought that Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva form trinity.
David Hernandez
God is an unnecessary hypothesis to explain all observed phenomena. If you believe in God, fine, but don't claim there's any observable evidence for the existence of a deity/deities.
And don't claim to know what a god would want you to do.
Nicholas Myers
I wish i believed in god, i wish there was a god, i dearly want some all powerful being to be in charge and to give my life meaning. There is no being, no point, no purpose, we are the random occurence of life in a largely dead and empty universe. Im just lucky enough to be porn in the right time and place to fuck around on Cred Forums.
Adrian Diaz
For me, the final push from theist agnostic to an atheist was reading a few papers on how our brain works. By just removing one small specific piece of our brain, the whole "person" and "character" thing can change completely. There is just absolutely no space for "soul" or afterlife left, when its proven that your consciousness and memory is a working bio-machine.
Josiah Murphy
>monotheism >has pantheon of saits, many of which are former pagan gods
Lucas Walker
If you want to claim Christianity not to be monotheistic (although it is anyway) so what about Islam and Judaism?
Jordan Wilson
Judaism contradicts argument of monotheism being a next step by virtue of being very ancient religion. You also forgot zoroastrism.
Wyatt Hernandez
No one is a christian anymore because the church has been declawed. Every other choice is either more fashionable or much more well enforced.
Justin Wood
You bring up scientific advances but not much else in your speculation. You have to look at the much wider cultural and political context. Here a some developments to consider. A Catholic church that has shown many signs of corruption. Protestantism as a division and critique of religion. The French revolution, which was very anti clerical and led to massacres of Christians. Critique of all ideas eventually leading to Post Modernism and Nihilism. Marxism/Communism which hated religion. There have been many cultural developments that critique religion and alongside it God. Atheism is never as popular as Atheist polls suggest either. Most people classified as Atheists are actually Agnostics or Irreligious. Frankly based on culture alone it's surprising belief in God still holds.
Grayson Watson
Don't make Nihilism your worldview, it will fuck you up. At least consider something like Absurdism. Some meaning in life is needed or insanity and despair follow.
Jose Watson
It's due to the constant stream of Jewish propaganda from every corner. Any child raised on Hollywood films will be a life-long atheist, guaranteed.
Xavier Rogers
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Adrian Rivera
The problem with Judaism is that jews faced stronger and more numerous enemies and failed to establish a strong statehood. Regarding Zoroastrism, Persia was very strong during ancient times and was completey crushed only by other monotheists.
Dylan Torres
Catholicism has no issue with evolution. Be a good Indian like the St Thomas Christians
Christian Rivera
Because a true, reverent belief in God is a very intellectually challenging idea to latch on to,. It either has to come to you at an early age when your subconscious understandings of what reality and experience are and how you interpret them are still forming and malleable, or later in life through extensive introspection/ intellectual effort, often aided by shock of radically life-altering events.
Michael Evans
You cannot be truly free if your life and consciousness began as a creation by the hand of a greater power. You're bound by this forever as being created by God's grace, living in a bountiful land by God's grace, and living in a certain way just to die and ascend to his perfect world by God's grace.
>implying anybody actually thinks this far
The true reason is that they see no proof of God, are made to believe religious people to be ridiculous and/or stupid, and personally they hate going to church or doing all of these things for a deity with no proof of his existence. Plus, free will clashes with the Torah old testament where God acted before the kingdom of Judah betrayed him as a whole. Bad things happening in "God's presence" is a big one.
Sucks to be them. They've lost their meaning of life.
Ayden Russell
>Persia was very strong during ancient times and was completey crushed only by other monotheists. >who is Alexander the Great
William Myers
>completey crushed Islamic Persia is somewhat different compared to zoroastrian.
Christopher Young
And Seleucid Empire was different from Persian Emire, Parthian Empire was different from Seleucid empire, Sassanid empire was different from Parthian Empire.
Nicholas Hughes
>what stops people in 2016 from believing in God?
1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
>and for this cause God shall send them strong dAelusion, that they should believe a lie
so god stops you from believing in god
Elijah Campbell
>what stops people in 2016 from believing in God? we get basic education unlike people in previous centuries.
Mason Carter
>what stops people in 2016 from believing in God? What stops you from believing in Santa Claus? This is just silly.
Nicholas Kelly
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Wyatt Brown
To be fair, many scientists who consider themself to belive in god, had somewhat different view of god compared to church.
Nicholas Collins
Not really newton did not belief in the trinity , and the catholic church would soon label him as a heretic , but that does not make newton any less of a cristian
Jose Wood
not an argument. Scientific facts have made religion irrelevant regardless of what some scientists believed.
Benjamin Bailey
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Michael Morales
Only if you have something you value. The freedom aspect of it is okay but it's an incomplete ideology that needs outside influences to be of value. The same goes for Atheism. Atheism is a lack of belief but people still try to make it a belief system. Humans are social animals and insular values alone won't keep emptiness at bay.
Andrew Morgan
u mean shiva of course
Eli Myers
>you have to lie to yourself so you keep going to work and keep being a good goy
Mason Nelson
I think christianity teaches great lessons about keeping a strong family with decent moral values
That being said- I had the unfortunate luck to be born a faggot, so there's little to no benefit in practicing a religion until I raise a family with someone, in which case I'll find a gay friendly denomination and happily raise my kids with the lesson that you can learn from the bible, but you're a fucking retard if you live your life by every word
Robert Campbell
Because I have no reason to believe God exists.
Jack Johnson
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Jayden Myers
>there are people who unironically think science contradicts religion
Jonathan Brooks
>gay >children Please for the love of God do not adopt an innocent child and ruin it's life just for your selfish desire to have something you don't deserve
Gabriel Mitchell
>what stops people in 2016 from believing in God? Two main things come to mind when I think about that:
Firstly is a combination of a powerful faith in historicism, on the one hand, and a false dichotomy of 'religion vs. ideology', on the other. Basically people are brought up to believe that 'religion' is a relic of the past (which excuses their dogmatic faith in even the most perverse and immoral belief systems as long as they're ideologies and not religions) and that they just need to be 'good people' (something conveniently never strictly defined - and a word which only truly has a Biblical definition, no less).
The second issue, as far as I see it, is that the confusion between 'intelligence' and 'critical thinking' has led people to falsely believe that there is only one correct way to understand a text: one which just so happens to be the worst possible way to try to get anything of worth out of the Bible. Basically, the Bible is discredited as a text and often by the churches themselves, which is the most egregious offense. How can you expect people to take your church seriously if you don't take your faith seriously?
