What do you think of fracking?

Is fracking viable when oil prices are this low ?

Yup.

It means less money to Saudi ragheads, so I'm all for it 2bh

It means less money to Russian subhumans, so I'm all for it 2bh

It's this low because of fracking. It's not a coincidence the majority of anti-fracking groups are funded by Saudi Arabia.

Necessary.

Environmental regulations and geological preservation needs to be strict due to the nature of the product though.

Oil prices are this low because Saudi Arabia is trying to kill US domestic fracking.

I know this because I work in gas and oil between the UK, SA, and the UAE.

The correct strategic move for the US is to continue fracking, even at a loss. Once Syria, Libya etc. come back online, the Saudis won't be able to flood the market like they've been doing.

geologists dont give a shit about shale other than oil/gas, its boring as fuck and has no other uses

I think each and every info graph of it is fucking propaganda that makes it seem that they do it right under the water table when in fact it thousands of feet below it.

I support it as long as it doesn't take place near where I live.

frack the world! unless you want to give up every possession you own and wash your shit in a creek, its necessary right now. But i work in the patch so, biased

What is in your opinion the break even price?

>geological preservation
What the fuck is interesting about shale? You wouldn't know what shale is if fracking wasn't invented.

Gas prices are this low due to fracking.

Love it, creates jobs. I worked in the Marcelus Shale area when fracking opened up the gas boom there, 2011-2015

I'm a big fan of fracking your mom if you know what I mean

OPEC and saudi arabia is the reason it's this low

>I support it as long as it doesn't take place near where I live.
Labour voters everyone.

>I also support mass immigration and the destruction of white people
>Just keep it away from my house!
Scum like you need to be stabbed.

wow, a smart AND funny response!

It's fine. The envirotards need to shut the fuck up.

Literally an IRL bluepill.

it is what destroyed venezuela

so its ok

Causes earth quakes and pollutes underground water supplies.

US O&G fag reporting
It's not a matter of opinion
the break even price varies depending on where you are, some factors that determine that...\
production costs
regulatory costs
equipment costs
labor costs
production volume
the break even price is much higher in the US for example, i think around $70/barrel in some areas more/less in others, its much cheaper overseas like in the middle east

I think this belongs in /sci/

kike run, kike owned, kike operated.

they've been cheaping out on everything and its fucking us over.

edition.cnn.com/2015/05/09/us/texas-earthquakes-fracking-studies/
abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=7848915
buzzfeed.com/danvergano/texas-quakes?utm_term=.tdKv4lJ1q#.ijd91Pkd0
earthquake.usgs.gov/research/induced/

I'm a mechanical engineer, the only economics it's my job to track are those of our suppliers and customers.

I'm only aware of the macro-economics because they determine where likely customers are. And none of our customers are in the US, so I don't know their break-even price.

>Buzzfeed

Is the earthquake meme real?

What's the problem with small earthquakes?

>Its made more petroleum deposits economically viable.
Nothing matters but oil company profits.

dallasdrilling.wordpress.com/2011/09/01/breast-cancer-rates-jump-in-the-barnett-shale/

>I prefer oil profits be made abroad than at home

OK.

It is a valuable process but greater care must be made to avoid contaminating water, and I dont believe it should be allowed within a 10 km radius of any water table. t. engineer who used to work on fracks

I live in Oklahoma. Its very fucking real.

Even if there were problems. it's an issue for low income and poverty areas. So still irrelevant.

Shit, ignore the USGS source.

Watched FrackNation on netflix, it was pretty good

fracking is a non issue, in fact it makes energy cheaper for everyone and reduces our dependence on the middle east and canada for our oil
why is that bad? liberals and environmentalists are the most nihilistic and suicidal people on this planet

Yeah but it's still a meme. A bunch of 4.0 earthquakes that don't do any damage is not a big deal.

I was woken up by a 5.8 about three weeks ago faggot. Its not a meme.

>set off a bunch of little earthquakes now
>no big earthquake later
This is killing two bird with one stone if you ask me.

>Pumping shitload of chemicals into the ground is totally ok, guys!

I fully support the US being a case study for the effects of fracking on to the environment and public health.

They pump chemically treated water into the earth filled with sand. The sand prevents the fractures from closing. Think of broken glass, the shatters into the earth spreads throughout time. This chemically treated water cannot be clean or distilled at all, this Is a fact. It is so poisonous just carcinogenic that just getting it on your skin causes severe issues. Once it makes contact with a water source a community depends on they are all fucked.

>shitload of chemicals
groundwater is naturally more polluted than the water they pump into the ground for fracking

And how many millions of dollars of damage did it do? Nothing? Who the fuck cares, quit crying about stupid shit. You live in the heart of Tornado alley and your seriously complaining about the ground shaking slightly once in a while?

subterranean activity could jeprodize local water tables. Farmers wells and ponds running dry etc

Same reason we don't have nuclear cars already

>man made earthquakes are ok as long as I am not effected by them
Youre a retarded nigger desu

they didn't affect the bitch that was complaining about them either

Nobody is affected (not effected, you illiterate leaf) by them, because they don't cause any damage.

Complaining that it woke you up once despite enjoying gas being 1/3rd the cost of what it was in 08 is beta af.

great, cheaper energy benefits everyone

those who are against it just hate the poor

Unnecessary at this point in time now that we know oil well refill

Yes because natural gas is the target not oil...

These faggots are lying and this is why you can't trust anyone.

What are the chemicals for?

Socialism and the Israeli security services destroyed Venezuela..

Yeah but you know the days of sweet light goo pumping itself into barrels is long gone so it's not as efficient. Metaphorically a crack addict scraping the crack pipe for one last hit. Then we go to the sand people or the Russkies for the next hit which won't end well. Good thing you dudes got a huge military and can just occupy some of those producing nations but the oil age will be over by the end of the 21st century me thinks, along with billion of monkeys with it so it's a self correcting problem, less supply will reduce demand.

And have had earthquakes for thousands of years, New fault lines discovered every few years. I live in Oklahoma too. It's not the franking dips hit. Over pressure from injection wells do, not franking.

you don't even know how fracking is done, do you?

you don't know about casing either

there has never been a confirmed contamination due to leakage through a casing. there have been fines for chemical spills from tankers though, so that is a risk

They are lying but you're not?

>you don't know about casing either
Tell us. Also what are the chemicals for?

>888
Thank god it was just a leaf

the first bore hole is quite wide and goes down straight

then the drill is withdrawn and a smaller bore bare pipe sent down, concrete is pumped out of the bottom of the pipe which flows up creating a casing

once it is set they send down even smaller bore pipes with mudmotors at the end which allow directional drilling

once they drill out the bendy sideways section, they repeat the casing procedure and send down the actual fracker. working from the far end they use an explosive fracker which fires bolts into the surrounding shale freeing the gas.

this is when the chemical/sand/mud solution is used to fill up these cracks and drive out the oil and gas, which flows up to the wellhead and into a tank

fracfocus.org/chemical-use/what-chemicals-are-used

oh, the first straight bore goes through the water table, but no artificial chemicals are used there. once it's cased it "should" be safe from any contamination

did you know they've been fracking commercially since 1950?

I'd like to ban it. Why might you ask?

I don't think it's bad for the environment or bad at all.

It's just the pure satisfaction of seeing how completely assmad the Albertan horsefuckers would get. There'd probably be a literal chimpout. Meanwhile I would be sitting here laughing as those sub 90 iq horsefuckers slip back into poverty without all those oil companies there giving them basically free money.

And once the horsefuckers have literally cannibalized themselves due to not having the mental capability to run a real economy without an over valued natural resource giving them money we move in kill the last survivors and take the oil for ourselves

Albertans would consider anything viable at any time. Even if they only had a fuckng dime between all of them they would still be trying to build billion dollar pointless projects like fucking circle street lamps that cost half a mil each.

>environmental regulations

We were fine without them

We don't fuckng need them

Especially in huge countries like US and Canada

(((Environmental regulations))) are why we are losing our economy while China is thriving

Nothing wrong with fracing, I'm actually watching the frac crew setup now. Holes are deep, far below the water table. The "heel" of the one I'm on right now is 1km deep before it goes horizontal. We take every precaution to keep the surface clean. And we do.

Meh

We should just let Alberta become a wasteland. It's a bleak fucking shitty place where nobody would be living without oil anyways.

I say we drill and frack all the oil and once it is dry we can turn it into a giant spent nuclear fuel storage center and make even more money

Bullshit, all of it, theres government regulations on that protect the water from being toxic. One of the few regulations that makes sense and i approve of.

>Mix millions of liters of water with chemicals
>Drill hole in earth crust
>Pump it down in such hight pressure it cracks rocks
>Seal it off
>Do this in every town, all across the country.

What can go wrong?

b-but humans are evil ;_; muh nature is more important than us ;_;

>I don't understand it so it's bad
literally the reason nuclear has been regulated out of viability
thanks, average voter

>1950
We did primitive fracking here in Southern California since 1910

The leaf is right. You're total nigger tier retarded. Do you not realize that our buildings are not designed to withstand earthquakes? Do you not realize that every time there is an earthquake, it weakens structures?

Aaand you just explained why democracy ultimately is shit

It isn't every town in the country just where there is oil to frack and in my country all that oil is located underneath a bleak wasteland shithole populated by sub 90 IQ trash. Nobody would miss that fucking place

Nuclear is a thousand times safer and a thousand times less polluting than fracking

>democracy is shit
yes it absolutely is, and the founding fathers thought so, too, that's why very few people had voting rights and we aren't a direct democracy in the first place

yet environmentalists hate both

I think it's retarded, it's known to contaminate water supplies and cause earthquakes and has been since long before it became so common, but I also don't care because the Jewish menace has ensured the niggers will inherit the Earth so ruining it will only effect people who intend to have kids.