Developments Sept. 24 >Syrian Army surrounds east Aleppo as zero hour approaches >Lavrov says during talks US admitted Islamic State is a ‘bigger threat than Assad’ >Obama vetoes bill to let 9/11 families sue Saudi Arabia >Turkish-backed rebels lose over 20 villages to ISIS in northeast Aleppo >Erdogan says the U.S. sent weapons to Kurdish fighters in Syria >Yemeni forces break into Nahooqah Saudi post West of Najran >Houthis shot down a KSA drone
More than half of the people dislike Onur, don't have to be Minnesota to report him you know.
Mason Perry
Maybe the next time I tell someone to delete an image that has their personal info on it, they will listen.
Ryan Lopez
hardly any. most of the other Americans in here are pro Assad as far as I can see, myself included
Syrian assets say they have audio proof that USA deliberately performed the attack on SAA and coordinated it with ISIS. they even say they'll release the audio. we'll see what it is, when they release the audio.
honestly I hope they do have proof. perfect shitposting ammo for Trump in his upcoming debates
Samuel Long
"more than half" is an understatement, kek
Wyatt Taylor
>didn't follow news on Syria since USA broke the peace by bombing Assad's troops >open the paper today >NON STOP RUSSIAN BOMBINGS ON CIVILIANS SINCE THE PEACE TREATY FAILED! >RUSSIAN WAR CRIMINALS!
FUCK I got mad
Evan Robinson
it's a legit interview, pro-turk media reported it too.
Eli Roberts
>hardly any. most of the other Americans in here are pro Assad as far as I can see, myself included
Aight that is good to hear. Based Assad needs to stay.
He adds some kind of a flavor in /sg/ please don't hate our boy Onur famalaman.
Shiiiiiiiiii
John Ramirez
how should we know? it hasn't been released yet.
the conspiracy theorist in me says that it's real because it definitely seemed like convenient timing for an "accident", but the skeptic in me says that it isn't, that USA would probably not have been so careless if they really were in contact with ISIS and that Syrian govt would say this even if they had no evidence whatsoever.
But none of that proves anything. we'll see. proof comes once they release the audio
Justin White
They will keep doing that until next ceasefire. Fucking american propaganda.
Colton Price
>El Muhammed El Kurdi an ISIS militant makes you think
Hunter Ramirez
why `????
Noah Cook
>Aight that is good to hear. Based Assad needs to stay.
I'm only talking about /sg/, though. 99% of Americans don't have any opinion on the Syrian conflict at all, due to ignorance. those that do have an opinion are often only told enough to say something like "I heard Assad is a very bad man? I also heard ISIS is involved? I don't know, it sounds bad all around." etc., and other such non-opinions
Asher Richardson
God is Great, Death to America, Death to Israel, Curse the Jews, Glory to ... fuck. You get the point skype.
Jacob Hernandez
no idea famalam just wanted the 1st post
Ethan Miller
This is true, most Americans are worse than memes alepposton when it comes to Syria, too busy looking down at their phones on twitstagrambook to pay attention to anything outside of their socialmedia lives.
Gavin Taylor
>Developments Sept. 24
Alexander Martinez
Quick question who is in control of the dar ezza region of Aleppo, and why would there be US Intel officers there?
Justin Jackson
LMAO based
My kinda shitposter.
Evan Cruz
Can anybody track admiral kuznetsov BY MMSI? vesselfinder and marine traffic gives nothing on ship name, however if frogfoots was spotted near Latakia, it shouldn't be very far from Syria, init?
Hunter Hill
Solid shitpoasting. You are to be commended.
Isaiah Perry
>BREAKING: EU has decided to "suspend" Colombia's FARC from its terror group list: official - AFP
is USA going to redefine the definition of "terrorist" so that it doesnt apply to America itself?
Jayden Turner
If you think this is unique to Americans you are gravely mistaken
I know Americans are sometimes overall less interested in what happens on other continents, but Europeans arent much better
Jose Harris
>is USA going to redefine the definition of "terrorist" so that it doesnt apply to America itself? Implying they haven't done that already
Connor Parker
all i have is this shitty satellite picture
maybe some anons can geolocate the sign post
Jordan Collins
>dar ezza region of Aleppo Der Ezzor is far more south than Aleppo >why would there be US Intel officers there because the US military is apparently helping terrorists
Tyler Gutierrez
>why would there be US Intel officers there? Because US-backed moderate jihadists require US-backing in order to take on sovereign government forces.
Andrew Evans
Usually indifference directly correlates with stability and wealth, nothing surprising
Perhaps they would, who knows They might just create new commie terrorist organization in Europe to keep them in line.
Charles Morgan
dont you realize what you are wishing ?
Christian Richardson
>The mosques in Akçakale #Turkey close to #TelAbyd warn the people that there're military operations to the #Turkish army in #Syria tonight. Do it yüzümüzü güldür
Mason Watson
One less roach shitposter
Caleb Nelson
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Fucking loser minnesota
Michael Powell
Kuznetsov will go to Syria in october.
Nathaniel Wood
Is there any proof US if helping legit Isis fighters? Makes you wonder why no one is reporting the russian calibre middle strike on us forces
Carter Collins
makes sense, since they signed a peace deal and are stopping their military campaign. Where is the problem?
Leo Sanchez
Oh, he is back.
Landon Howard
reported for ban evasion :^)
Elijah Gutierrez
He's gonna be in Syria in mid October Might manage to get some pics for you guys if it stops by Limassol again like back in 2014
Xavier Jackson
Damn, there was another ship - admiral chukcha or smth similar, sub destroyer deployed as well, mb lost due couldn't find that sign though
Ayden Williams
Why is Assad still the president of Syria? No one wants him. No one likes him.
It's time Assad steps down.
Dylan Howard
Reported for announcing report :^)
Christopher Johnson
Thatd be fucking awesome m8
Luke Smith
Reported for Reporting the announcing of the report :^)
Thomas Peterson
Why is netenyahu still president of israel? No one wants israel. No one likes israel.
>Saudee fucks bombing civilians is allowed because MUH MURRICA
if anyone is triggered by Aleppo bombings and not by this, then fuck you shithead
Jonathan Williams
I'm sure there'll be some idiots to sink it down with RPGs
Ayden Thompson
Who here hyped?
Christopher Scott
It's scheduled time for the start of some event, especially a military operation.
Asher Cooper
whats the goal of USA/NATO in syria ? One day they help kurds and the other day they help terrorists, whats their point ? Creating the chaos in the middle east or what?
Jackson Sanchez
I wonder if they will talk about Syria.
There is no unified U.S. foreign policy. Pentagon and CIA operate according to different goals.
Tyler Martinez
Thanks, that I knew....but is there something specific to Aleppo to warrant that comment from OP?
Chase Hernandez
>Is there any proof US if helping legit Isis fighters? Plenty of PROOFS already, even the US ambassador to the UN admitted it, and given the situation on the field I couldn't have possibly been a mistake (Deir Er-Zor is an encircled military airfield, the position bombed was a fortified hill which was stormed by ISIS right after)
We are waiting for an unconfirmed comms record of the terminal attack control apparently, that'd be the golden proof if not bogus
>Makes you wonder why no one is reporting the russian calibre middle strike on us forces that was reported by Iranian state news agency and GNN Liberia, no-cross confirmation yet and you can bet your muslim ass that nobody will officially confirm a bunch of spies were where they shouldn't have been
Samuel Nelson
>different goals. whats are the main goals ? i dont understand a shit about this conflict
Asher Richardson
>There is no unified U.S. foreign policy. Pentagon and CIA operate according to different goals. I remember reading some reports that the Obama administration is divided, some want to support the "moderates" and the other half wants to support just the kurds.
Easton James
CIA goal - Take down Assad by any means necessary Obama goal - Force Assad to step down through a "political transition"
Daniel Murphy
>Creating the chaos in the middle east or what? Well that's the point of Israel policy, so
You know what's the best part? Cretin-in Chief sent the Charles de Gaulle to bomb ISIS after all the cultural enrichment, but they are probably flying air support for them at this point.
Jose Sanchez
test
Brayden Powell
Does CIA have its own authority or something?
Gavin Wilson
Go cry in your rhodesia white inbreds fucks you stupid piece of shit shill
GOOD LUCK AND GODSPEED ADMIRAL KUZNETSOV
Xavier Perry
>whats the goal of USA/NATO in syria ?
Maximum chaos for everyone involved in the area.
Hudson Baker
>CiA >OBAMA
Ryan Cruz
Mmmm, Lain
Dylan Hernandez
why is assad considered as a big threat for the cia ? something about the alliance between shia of irak and iran ?
Anthony Bennett
Racist.
Who did he dox -- Minnesota?
Justin Price
They need to work with the Turks more. They cant sit there handing guns to the YPG and insist theyre not assisting terrorosts. The US would never accept such behaviour towards itself in a similar situation. They dont need to encourage all out war by the Turks, but they need to limit their support to intel and airstrikes, conditional on maintaining a ceasefire with thenTurks, until they can broker a peace deal between Erdogan and the PKK. The Turks need to be their primary ally on the ground. Theyre beimg a bad ally. I mean I hate Erdogan, but this is NATO. You cant be backstabbing members like that.
Julian Butler
>Who did he dox -- Minnesota?
Yup.
Tyler Turner
officially? no.
in practice? they have zero oversight. they can do whatever they want
>tfw you don't know how to doxx people I feel useless
Luis Wright
Based Onur. Minnesota is an enemy to the state of Israel.
Ryan Ortiz
I don't know if he is a threat or not, he is needed by Iran so that Syria can be the supply route for Hezbollah so he is somehow a threat to Israel, other than that I doubt Assad can be a threat to anyone.
Michael Jenkins
What if Assad and Putin are playing 5d chess and are actually bluffing about this?
Brody Hughes
the strategy of the turks is supporting "moderate" jihadists. Fuck them, I hope for many more exploding shitty t*rkish M-60 tanks.
Dominic Lopez
Call me an animefag but this really reminds me of the organization called ''root'' in naruto famalaman.
delet this high dose of redpill
Damn Minnesota looking good as usual.
Caleb Miller
>Muslim ass Lol I may be a Minnesotan but I'm no damn Muslim
Dominic Davis
>WE
Brayden Garcia
>Assad to AP: US airstrikes on Syrian troops were ‘intentional,’ lasted nearly 1 hour - youtu.be/s2GUfBppapA
Assad doesn't look too well in this interview. His face in particular reflect the shit he has been through lately.
Joshua Rogers
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Grayson Bennett
sauce?
Isaiah Collins
>YPG >terrorists Might as well call any other uniformed group that attacks military targets only terrorist because you don't like them.
Chase Brown
He's trying to win a 5 year old civil war against half the middle east Give based Assad a break
Kevin Campbell
That's would me more realistic than Al Bab offensive now, they're probably trying to force ISIS to station more troops in Al Bab to limit their offensive capabilities, they did the same thing as with Palmyra for months, and they only took it after having a ceasefire with the rebels.
but your government supports the same fucking muslim fucking terrorists that blew up the WTC and many public transportation in Yurop.
>let me do some roasting for once
The "moderates" some years ago were the Syrian branh of Al Quaeda. ISIS was the Iraqi branch. Since Syria was in complete and utter chasos they waltzed in and grabbed the easternmost desert areas, where the few own syrian oil facilities are. The rest is history.
Jayden Nelson
Turkey's proxies are terrorists scum.They literally kicked out americans from northern aleppo and called them pigs. USA should be supporting the "moderates" at all.
Blake Torres
Source? You sure that troop concentration isnt for crushing Aleppo?
Noah Brown
It's /sg/ unrelated, but who is going to stay wake for the debates? Cant wait for debates.. oh boy!
Christopher Kelly
I've NEVER heard of that guy.
He's as reliable as the "Syrian human right watch" guy who lives in fucking UK.
I did, however, watch videos of ISIS getting rekt by YPG.
Don't get me wrong, marxists are cancer wherever they are and I don't agree with them, but unlike turks they ACTUALLY fight ISIS.
Jonathan Ross
>Plenty of proofs Why not try and gather it all and release it to Congress and try and get these motherfuckers impeached and charged with treason?
Kevin Davis
JUST
Lucas Gonzalez
Getting rid of Bashar in order to make way for greater yishrahell is more important than fighting terrorism.
t. the "democratically elected" (((American government)))
David Lewis
I'll order a pizza and pick a beer. It will be great.
Jayden Howard
The Russians will kill the rebels. The Turks are fighting the IS but theyre always having to look behind their bacls because of the PKK. Turkey is NATO, and of you know whats good for the West youll understand the importance of being one for all and all for one with NATO memebers.
Jordan Hernandez
Don't be fooled though: Kurds fight for Kurds. That's about it. They wil accept America's help, Russia's help, even Assad's help, but in the end they will backstab all because they now everyone will backstab them.
Jordan Stewart
Going to have to listen to the debates at work. Sadly no comfy shitposting during debate on /sg/ from me.
David Bell
>tries to fuck the world with low oil prices >ends up fucking themselves
Nolan Baker
I agree. We should be organizing a NATO ground force and doing it ourselves. Fuck the rebels. But until we decide we want to send our own men, its the best we cna do.
Gabriel Garcia
pshhh
Jayden Bell
As far as I know, originally, the CIA is supposed to be under the authority of Director of National Intelligence, who serves as the head of the U.S. Intelligence Community. The DNI advises the president, homeland security, national security, etc.
However, in the last decade or so, with the rise of big data and its effect on intelligence, intelligence agencies have expanded beyond expectation. From "Emperor" Alexander of the NSA / U.S. Cyber Command, to John Brennan of the CIA, these bigshots started shaping foreign policy a lot more than they should. As a result, the CIA in practice has a direct line to the president, and can sideline the DNI quite often.
Regarding Syria, the U.S. saw the potential for popular revolt and deemed it beneficial for itself and its allies. Flames were fueled, fires were fanned, and the revolution began. Over time, as the situation shifted and fueling the flames became less beneficial, the CIA would not or could not stop the tide it had created. The allies it greenlighted to fund rebels (Turkey, Saudi, Qatar, etc.) did not find their interests exactly the same as the U.S. I don't know if the CIA switched stances, but if it has it has had little effect. On the contrary, the U.S. shuffling its feet has caused the regional allies to shift towards funding more and more hardline islamists.
The Pentagon, on the other hand, could see Plan A was hopeless, so they initiated Plan B, the kurds. This plan however is useless if the U.S. and its allies can't arrive at a unified solution to pursue for Syria. (I think this is one of the things Putin and Assad played well by prioritizing moderate rebels as targets. They are trying to make sure the kurds are the only proxy option for the U.S., which will either cause them to give up or royally screw their relations with Turkey, a more important ally.)
TLDR:
Christian Rogers
>The Turks are fighting the IS By buying their oil?
Elijah Perez
which time is it going to be? I don't wanna ruin my sleep cycle again ... if it's in the morning I may wake up earlier tho
Jaxson Garcia
>State Dept says no Plan B on Syria: we're committed to the diplo process w/ Russia, even tho we don't see it moving forward
they flooded the world with oil because they didn't want to lose market share to Russian and US oil. OPEC is a cartel, but it's a shitty cartel because there's no consensus or quotas whatsoever, so everyone is trying out-Jew the other behind their back
Aaron Roberts
He's going to finally drop the bomb on H. Baruch HASHEM.
Jack Reyes
stop lying u cunt.
Jayden Lopez
I dont think theres any tankers getting past those tanks bud.
Nicholas Sanchez
Unless you want an Iraq 2.0, I don't see any good coming out of sending ground troops.
Kayden Hughes
>Kurds fight for Kurds. And that's absolutely reasonable. Ideally they wouldn't throw a shitfit once the whole ISIS thing blows over and maybe try democracy for once, but it's unlikely. Obviously YPG is going to fight Assad once ISIS is wiped out, but they're better than the guys who have a plan of pretty much beheading everyone who isn't with them and exporting said philosophy to Europe.
Daniel Wood
did he realy said that ?
Alexander Scott
It's 03:00 AM central eastern time. So i will try to take a nap.
Turks secretly get wet at the idea of Ottoman 2.0.
Andrew Bell
You work night shift? At least you are not NEET like 80% of /sg/.
Mason Richardson
>The Turks are fighting the IS topkek >Turkey is NATO Should be kicked out.
James Parker
I am a Turk so obviously I am biased. But we have had enough Assyrians posters here telling you the truth about them, if you are not willing to listen to me.
And another note, you think USA is arming them because they just want ISIS gone? That is it?
For Kurds, this goes deeper than Democracy and getting along with all ethnicities bringing Syria back to its glorious old self. They want their own state and this war gave them a reason to unite and finally form it. After FSA and ISIS is gone, do you REALLY expect these Kurds who have never had their own country but keep fighting and dying for it for decades will say, sure Assad I will give up my weapons, make Syria great again!
They will turn against Assad cause Assad wants to take control of WHOLE syria, no autonomy or giving up land. Uncle USA can keeps arming the YPG so that Assad will have another hard time to fight this faction in the near future.
Parker Edwards
>you think USA is arming them because they just want ISIS gone? US arms them because chaos in the middle east is beneficial to (((certain someone))).
Gavin Sullivan
So they gave up? Lets see how this goes, anyway, Lavrov will probably throw Assad under the bus again if he begins to take the upper hand.
Eli Taylor
Has anyone went to Syria from /sg/? Would be epic to see a polack fighting for Assad
Alexander Lee
>They want their own state perfectly fine with that. Assad better give them autonomy.
Jace Moore
Why so unorganized tho?
Michael Martin
Yeah I do. Not able to watch though as I am constantly moving and working as a team but they are ok with ear plugs hence why I will be live streaming audio from youtube. I won't be able to see their meme faces but atleast I can hear the bantz.
Wow, that certain someone must be very important to the USA then!
Parker Clark
There was a pretty based Norwegian fighting for the YPG here some weeks ago.
Wyatt Scott
There was a french that fought with YPG. Other than him there have been like 4 syrians posting from Syria here.
Ethan Moore
If you count photoshopping yourself in Syria, then yes somee Cred Forumsack already did go there.
Chase Gomez
SAA does not allow foreigners. Maybe hezbollah would but is unlikely. NDF? Liw al-Quds? Very few, if any, of us know arabic/aramaic. Those that do are Syrian diaspora. The rest are bloodthirsty jihadists like Rural Ralph.
Logan Myers
>They want their own state they're essentially the largest stateless people in the world. People keep boohooing about the Palestinians, but the Iranians/Syrians/Turks keep forgetting about their own miserably neglected minorities. A lot of Kurds see the stinging hypocrisy of Turkey sending aid and material to Gaza, but not to South-East Turkey. This bitterness will never go away.
Grayson Fisher
Alright, thanks for the post falamaman.
Wyatt Ross
I just cant understand how someone could fight for YPG. Literal communists some of them. Also why would a norwegian be interested in building Kurds a nation? Did he just want to go for an adventure and YPG is the safest for an foreigner or what? Did he tell you guys?
Logan Sanchez
>(I think this is one of the things Putin and Assad played well by prioritizing moderate rebels as targets. They are trying to make sure the kurds are the only proxy option for the U.S., which will either cause them to give up or royally screw their relations with Turkey, a more important ally.) Wew, it's like a chessgame.
Thank you for the explanation.
Aiden Turner
Cant understand why an European fight for anyone else than SAA. If Assad loses there wont be peace in decades. Too much infighting between rebels
Joshua Richardson
Hello everyone, I haven't had a lot of time to post because of work, school, and other (positive) things that have occurred recently.
I'm doing an /hr/ thread where I am posting some high res pictures (or at least my script is). I plan to post some more now and if anyone wants to join me there, feel free:
albert pike lived during the late 1800s acoorfing to wiki is that just a bullshit quate show proof en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Pike
Grayson Rogers
>communist cunt tries to play solidarity and worldrevolution >gets rekt
I dont think thats very based. Also >german
Andrew Myers
there are actually many commies in the world (too many). But he said he was more a war tourist as far as I remeber. Also, if you really hate Islamists and want to kill them, it's pretty much your only adress. >why would a norwegian be interested in building Kurds a nation? Why were there foreign volunteers in pretty much every seperatist liberation war?
Brandon Kelly
WHY ARE THERE NO GAINZ IN EASTERN ALEPPO STILL? REEEEEEEEE
Ian Williams
Yea i guess. I just wasnt thinking that a commie would post about his war trip to Cred Forums
Josiah Davis
Are you on acid? SAA took the eastern market plaza today.
James Richardson
I don't know this particular guys, but in the documentaries some of them are there to help out in the fight against ISIS, they like the kurds but the main reason they mention is to fight ISIS.
Cameron Gutierrez
I just noticed my ID guys... I swear im not a Homo
Leo Bailey
Your worldview is pretty fucked up if you think every faction in Syria is fighting because the USA somehow convinced them to. The US simply is not that powerful- or liked. Even if the US is somewhat responsible, so many other countries are much more involved in funding the proxy war than the US. Iran and Saudi Arabia among others. I adore the idea that the US believes it can turn wars on and off, but the paychecks in the pockets of rebel fighters never came from the US. They got a tiny bit of aid and a handful of weapons, then the US fucked off.
There have been many leaks so far as to the role of the CIA in Syria and they have been minor consultant-type roles for Kurds and the FSA.
Josiah Hall
Perceived as atheist/secular force. Little information about ethnic cleansing and a highly effective PR-campaign. Saviour complex triggered in many messianic westerners. Also one of the true "revolutionary" movements with iberomarxist structures, which is a major bonus to leftists in the West.
Nicholas Watson
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Gavin Gray
Jordan Matson is pretty based. He's on facebook. Looks like he's back in Syria again, I thought he married some kurdish girl in Norway or Sweden.
Luis James
Im kinda out of the loop. How well documented are these alleged Peshmerga warcrimes?
Ayden Brooks
/sg/ is a very pro LGBTQ+ general. Don't worry about it.
James White
why do Turkey appears to be such a necessary ally to the USA ? It seems like anything the turks can do, USA dont dare to say a word about it.
Jordan Rodriguez
I just cant get around the fact that he is fighting for the Kurdshits. They are criminals just like FSA. Are there any christian only factions? Dont even get started with Hezbollah, they are terrorists
Charles Baker
Reminder
Nicholas Clark
Thank you. My friend is currently working in Johannesburg as a youth tutor trough a school program.
Asher Sanchez
>Johannesburg Unlucky. There's a high possibility of you not ever seeing him again.
Matthew Brooks
>Hundreds of people have been killed in Aleppo since Tuesday
good
Nathan Lewis
Hoholmaps didn't update.
Charles Jones
IDK, the Syrians I speak to directly are quite worried about landgrabs, but that is hearsay only. And generally speaking the Sunnis are more on the fence about that, Christians and other minorities do not give a shit.
Im sorry for asking stupid questions and you propably get asked this a lot but can you tell me how does the war affect the Coastal cities that SAA controls? Can the people live normal life there? Im assuming you are from that area
Cameron Wilson
You are really oblivious to whats going on. I suggest you learn more about whats happening before forming your opinion.
>Pehsmerga >Syria
Fucking hell
Jaxson Gray
>Are there any christian only factions sure, fighting along the YPG :^). Many christians are fighting in the SSNP. But I don't think they accept foreign recruits and getting thrown into the bloody Aleppo meatgrinder as part of some NDF cannon fodder fighting the syrian opposition (even if they are islamists) isn't really heroic. Fighting for muh freedom while being hailed as a hero by the kurds (abroad and at home) while fighting evil evil ISIS is much more attractive.
I actually showed him murder rates before he went there. He doesnt believe whites are killed there just for being whites as i persume that is the case in the farm killings. He is a naive leftist world saving idiot but still he is my friend.
Owen Sullivan
eggscellend bost, but you aren't making very clear why the US would have all that interest in the ruckus in Syria
US foreign policy is dictated by its lovely "allies" (not us cucks, arabs and Israel).
Just see how Obama cucked Congress on the Saudi civil lawsuits
Michael Powell
Yeah man. Im in Damascus, we live a pretty normal life here. Just like before the war kinda. Still we have mortars fall and such but areas controlled bu SAA are still secular places so everything is decently normal
Nicholas Kelly
>Just see how Obama cucked Congress on the Saudi civil lawsuits not surprising considering Obama doesn't want to anger SA. But that veto is widely expected to be overrided on Wednesday. Keep your ears peeled. Want to hear Saudi reaction when it does.
Christian Martin
>Johannesburg >"youth" tutor it's like those Carl Svennson comics
Cameron Powell
That Turkish crescent and star on Hetfield's guitar
Connor Martin
Sorry i said peshmerga instead of YPG. I had a brainfart
Sorry for asking this much but what do you think of Syrians leaving the country and coming to Europe? Do you think they are traitors/cowards? What is your reason for not leaving Syria?
Leo Cook
some guy on an Italian defense forum (with actual adults, not your typical jailbait magnet) even pavented that if it happens they should send them the declaration of war lel because it'd be one league more serious than lawsuits
> Damascus has proof US talked to ISIS militants ahead of airstrike on Syrian forces
Alexander Wright
reasons? "muh Russia, muh Iran, muh Syria". which is really just a restatement of "muh Israel"
anything else - gas attacks, barrel bombs humanitarian crises - is just rationalization / justification after the fact.
it's ridiculously easy to justify involvement in a foreign war if civilian casualties are high. all you need to do is point at whichever side you want to kill, point to the civilians they have killed (because civilian death is inevitable in these conflicts), and PRESTO your civilian population and lawmakers will be okay to send planes and bombs. "Look we're just fighting the evil guy! Pls ignore the fact that his opponents are worse."
Jordan Thompson
yes first of all there are plenty within saa ranks and all it's side branches. second there are uniquely christian groups like sootoro which are predominantly assyrian. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sootoro
Parker Roberts
There may not be as many racially-motivated murders as there are up in the farmlands, which doesn't make it better -- that just means that they'll kill anyone LMAO. I never got Joburg, unless it's through their airport.
Justin Ward
I HAD A FALSE SOURCE DISREGARD THIS INFO
Jordan Robinson
>pavented
Andreas, this is not a word in English.
still waiting on them to release the audio. not sure if they're referring to the audio itself when they say "we have evidence that the strike was deliberate", or if they're merely referring to the body of circumstantial evidence that led them to believe it was intentional from the beginning.
that being said, I think it probably was intentional and I hope they can prove it.
Joshua Ramirez
>rt So you're wrong, is what you're admitting.
Asher Russell
Can booers get NL citizenship easily like jews to Israel?
Jayden Parker
They could at least fight for the Peshmerga instead.
I'm sorry but if they end up getting killed by the Turks I don't have any sympathy for them.
Jose Perez
J-Jew is back! i wish to see more Great Israel supporters now
Nolan Roberts
Can someone explain Ivan Sidorenko to a /sg/ newfag
Benjamin Lee
Look at a map. There's your answer.
Also it's the most liberal Islamic country there is. That's worth keeping around.
Jayden Sullivan
Most of them are civilians you idiot.
Lucas Nguyen
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Dominic Gomez
Bruh stop apologizing. Anyway I don't think of them as cowards, they just wanna let's say live and the most Syrians count this war as not their. I didn't leave cause I can't leave my family alone after most of my family members died during the war
Luis Baker
Not talking about the WW2 sniper obviously
Liam Mitchell
>Syria conflict: Obama 'deeply concerned' about Aleppo
>Sootoro those actually don't do anything and are just sitting around in Qamishli. Except during the occasional NDF/Asayish chimpouts, of course. They are no fighting force. And the Kurd supporting Sutoro is even bigger than the loyalist one. I think the fighting force with the most Christians are the whirlwind eagles of the SSNP
Elijah Butler
T B H, Boers should move to my country, it's easy to do it. And while we may be an absolute shit hole, at least you wont get murdered by niggers. Also we are in dire need of farmers.
Mason Scott
sorry mate, no one wants to live in Macedonia. Not even Macedonians.
William Murphy
Not sure, most Afrikaners that I know are preferring to stay here and continue fighting for the land as best they can -- the more whites we have, the better chance of establishing the Cape Republic. I think it was unfair that none of the countries gave free citizenship to those that wanted to leave after the fall of Apartheid.
Meh if i was in South Africa i'd move anywhere i could, that wasn't africa.
Brody Jones
I come from a home where i was always taught love for Finland. I thought SAA was popular in those areas? I cant understand why every man is not fighting for the Syrian army. It just seems that there can never be peace or a stable country if the rebels win. I mean is there no patriotism in Syria? Even the socialists fought for Finland in WW2 not becouse they approved our right wing government but becouse everyone wanted a better homecountry.
John Butler
Thanks im actually very intersted in SA politics. I wish all the best to you.
Justin Moore
But why would white people want to live in a poor slavic balkan country when they can live in one of the richest country on earth? If I was Syrian, I would skip Macedonia too and head straight to western Europe.
Jack Clark
just because you come from a sovereign state does not make you "fantasylandian" as it is not a real nation
Nathaniel Scott
Article about deployment was 21/09, Distance 4897 nautical miles VIA Strait of Gibraltar Vessel speed 18 knots. Time 11 days 08 hours Soon
Cooper Nguyen
Sorry, I didn't know there were Greeks in Sweden.
Nathan Reyes
do you mean its gate between Europe and the middle east ?
Isaiah Flores
That, the fact it's a perfect place to position missiles against the Russians, and The Bosphorus.
Kevin Bennett
Spread this like wildfire. Fuck the US government.
Colton Phillips
Stop encouraging white people to leave South Africa! We might land up in a civil war should the time to establish the Cape Republic occurs. Whites, Afrikaners especially, are much better at fighting -- and we're already at about 9% (half of which are liberal fagelas).
Matthew Nelson
Sorry but looking from the outside atleast your country seems like a lost cause. In what circumstances could a sovereign Cape state be born? Not a single western country would even recognise it.
Matthew Cook
liveleak.com/view?i=39b_1474887706 (PKK release footage of overrunning a Turkish army post) PKK get better with their propaganda footage, but it's still a far cry from ISIS or even the moderate headcutter rebels. Where is the gopro footage? The camera is too shaky. Too bad that they don't have rich gulf donors, they could buy them better equipment.
Logan Lee
This.
And if they try to do anything, they may even get bombed like serbia.
Jayden Thompson
It's perfectly legal and protected under the constitution. More details should be on that site. It's not going to be an all-white state, mostly whites and coloureds. Majority of the people in the Western Cape will be for it. The shittier that this country gets, the more chance we have of pulling this off. Should the EFF (the communists) ever win, then I suspect that it will get ugly and fighting will incur and we'll definitely pull it off.
Connor Mitchell
Ok. Im still reading through the site.
Ryder Gutierrez
They lost the fight, look at the previous thread with the Inhanete Bedel post.
Jacob Brown
Why did Hafez al-Assad had such big head?
John Allen
what will happen when russia ally with turkey ? it seems inevitable
Camden Reyes
is it still up? Looks like a suicide attack, anyway.
Connor Cruz
you fags are late to the game my address has been leaked for over a month. Onur taking credit for shit he didn't do. It were the Cred Forums turks on telegram who doxxed me because I posted pictures of my house and street. looking back, that was a bad Idea
Parker Reed
>Too bad that they don't have rich gulf donors, they could buy them better equipment don t worry, they have America
Parker Cruz
who gives a shit. to store all his Muslim Brotherhood extermination ideas.
Bentley Price
Lol no. This Turkey-Russia alliance is a Putinfag meme they parrot because they want it to be true, because they hate America.
Turkey will not ally with Russia. Turkey is NATO, the fact that Trump the Turk is in charge will never change that. Turkey and Russia have never, EVER been allies, EVER, and there's basically no reason for them to start,
Tyler Mitchell
>I posted pictures of my house and street
Easton Gonzalez
LMAO. Netanyahu's still in town after his meeting with Trump last night. Expect him at your door SOON.
Nicholas Gutierrez
obviously onur and the Cred Forums turks who post here
>the website than anyone can edit and maintain without even basic adequate proof and hundreds of dead and incorrect links in the footers says its fake
this isn't reddit m8
Evan Sanchez
hello. My name has been available forever. it's on my steam page
Parker Lewis
yes, pretty much btfo
Ryder Johnson
Well about hour ago Onur bragged with pics of your house and said your name. Oh yeah and look like because of that we will not see him for 2 weeks.
David Kelly
what should some internet weeb roaches do with your adress? It's not that they will show up on your porch or something.
Nicholas Long
i am not sure about that. we will see in the future what happen.
Liam Torres
Minnesota-Chan confirmed for Rod Dreher.
Cooper Walker
PKK propaganda works with absurd numbers and record of shitty videos which barely show any fight.
Connor King
yeah I know. I have the 4chanX extension so I can see deleted posts Onur knows my coordinates but nothing else. no full name, no face, and no employer details nothing really
Benjamin Davis
I know. But the Turkish "5000 PKK killed during the last weeks" isn't much better. For better propaganda: More gopro footage. Instead of the generic music, traditional kurdish string instrument sounds. More cute girls (the west just loves them). Oh, and a tripod for the camera would be a great start. Also, subtitles, even the fuckin sandal wearing Houthis have seem.
Chase Murphy
I remember how you were challenging people to look your house based on the pictures. Guess they were able to.
Nathan King
Yeah, I think I accidentally included street name in one of the photos. Then I posted the name of the lake I live by with a video of me canoeing on the lake. I guess that was a bad idea, huh?
Joshua Cruz
Did you know that Onur means Honor and it also means Honneur and in fact Onur is French ?
Bentley Perez
TAF is very honest about its casualties and kills. government bullshit a lot though.
Jordan Nguyen
We're going have some Domino's delivered to house tonight for the debate. Don't tell him.
Christian Gutierrez
I fucking hope not
Elijah Diaz
It's more like 5000 killed this year desu. Well you can't do good propaganda with bad footage.
Nicholas Sanders
while I'm sure the PKK bullshits way more, I think both infos have to be taken with a grain of salt. Reminds me of the American body counts in Vietnam: One magazine fired into the jungle thicket = at least three dead Vietcong.
you cant hide casualties in turkey. şehit (martyr) is official status in turkey. their families get compensation, monthly payments and priority for state jobs. i remember a family sued army because their suicided son so he can be declared şehit.
James Hernandez
>"The U.S. support the opposition, but not directly. They support the countries which support us. But we are not yet satisfied with this support. They should support us with highly developed weapons. We have won battles thanks to the "TOW" missiles. We reached a balance with the regime through these missiles. We received the tanks from Libya through Turkey. Also the "BMs" - multiple rocket launchers"
I'm not talking about the accurate turkish casualty numbers but about the alleged PKK numbers.
Eli Garcia
SAA is dropping 6 gorillion bombs of east aleppo and UN concern is reaching dangerous levels
Dylan Bennett
F
Jason Ward
There'll be a huge combined military campaign to liberate Mosul and ypg is out of this.
Eli Baker
lel that isn't actually minnesota, do a reverse image search, it is from some random forum in 2012
Nathan Hughes
I wonder if the Peshmerga will be part of this. Probably just in a supporting role. Norwegian YPG guy obviously won't, since he's sitting around in Norway.
Thomas Wood
>The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) has mobilized several thousand soldiers in the east Aleppo countryside, as they prepare to attack the Islamic State's defenses near the Kuweires Military Airport.
Are they actually going to go through with this? Seems very ambitious.
James Perry
>We received the tanks from Libya through Turkey. This is why I dont care about Benghazi embassy killings That was what that SA goon ambassador was doing there was funneling weapons I also find it hilarious that US gets away with this shit and then accuses Russia of supplying Ukraine rebels with tanks
Thomas Bennett
waste of mapower if true. Especially the push for Al-Bab would be moronic.
Elijah Hall
No way. It's disinfo to try to cover another front.
Carson Ward
There were some IS attacks on the area around the Kuweires airport
The only reasonable objective for this that I can think of would be to maybe capture a few surrounding areas if they are easier defendable
Gavin Jenkins
Yep how many times has the SAA published reports of big offensives they are planning only to go in the opposite direction Khan Thouman hills gonna get a pounding would be my guess or Ghouta pocket reduction
Wyatt Bailey
Maybe they want to cuck the Turks by taking it before them.
Erdogan promised to take it, now Assad vows to take it.
You know how these savages are with their pride.
Jaxson Myers
yeah and the US gave erdo 30 days to do it before they activate the kurd card
albab race when?
Anthony Reed
>Ghouta pocket reduction This operation is continiously happening anyway, there would be no point "distracting" from this by threatening an other enemy.
Khan Touman seems more likely since there is no big offensive ongoing; still it is another enemy
Maybe Syrian gov feigns an Aleppo province attack on IS to draw more IS forces there which in turn will complicate the Turkish/Rebels and Kurdish advances there while at the same time possibly relieving some pressure off Deir ez-Zor?
Luke Anderson
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Benjamin Rodriguez
Erdogan promises a lot, don't believe in everything he says
Luke Walker
it's already on. Funny that everyone is forgetting that ISIS have a a say in that matter, too.
Nathaniel Hall
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Ryder Cooper
The Al-Bab dream is over
>Turkey-backed rebel group in Syria joins Jihadist alliance
Aaron Ward
NEW THREAD
Parker Ramirez
I made this. Comfier days friends, comfier days.
Adam Cook
so? Do you think Turkey has any problem with that?
Aiden Garcia
Umm yes? If your proxy stops fighting for you and joins another alliance then yes Turkey as a problem with it.
Nicholas Scott
That's not what I meant at all, the U.S. simply added fuel to the fire. The thing is, it was a shitload of fuel, and even though the U.S. may not have created the conditions for dissent (dictatorship, obvious corruption, usual ME stuff), it + its allies' support probably made the difference between a crushed rebellion and a 5 year civil war.
As far as I know, the CIA gave the rebels unlimited TOW cheat codes. I would say paychecks probably come from regional allies. I only mentioned the U.S. because he was asking about the U.S. foreign policy.
yeah basically what you said >US foreign policy is dictated by its lovely "allies" (not us cucks, arabs and Israel).
I think it was just too juicy of a bite not to take.
>longtime soviet ally, and now russian ally >highway for the most anti-israel jihadist group in existence (hezbollah) >anti-israel itself, with disputed territory (golan heights) >alawite dictator ruling sunni majority country (just sectarian war my shit up senpai)
Landon Gomez
why? Turkey is supporting the "Army of Conquest" too. And I didn't hear a word about them leaving the Euphrates shield operation.
