Trump Lost Hard

This was the worst blow to the trump campaign ever.

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What was the stupidest shit he said to ensure that he'd lose the debate?

My personal pick is "That makes me smart"

I watched the whole debate and I didn't notice this, just a weird CTR forced meme?

he sniffed a few times in the beginning that's about it. they're grasping at straws now.

This is actual footage

He lost his cool way too early

>You wanted the housing market to collapse.
>"Yeah, that's good business."
>admitting to refusing to pay workers
>going on a rant about Birtherism and an Iraq War
>not even speaking in coherent sentences

It wasnt sniffles you idiot it was him sucking in air through his nostrils so he could keep talking

It's brilliant
Here in America we are always trying to get away with paying the government taxes

How? Through declarations

He'll come back in the next two debates with a new strategy. This one was crap, he needs to move forward to better issues and launch more attacks.

Come back?! He killed her
She looked stoned

It's over
Trump is finished.

>it was him sucking in air through his nostrils so he could keep talking
Of course mouth breathers wouldn't know what that sounded like

funny how many threads just like this are being made

read the rules, cuck

we know Trump won already, there is no debate about it.

they threw everything at him, called him racist and sexist, Trump even said "that line's getting really old" with the button on the nuclear codes. The questions were biased against him, he held up 2v1. This is a repeat of the primaries, no matter how well he does the mainstream will just spam "TRUMP IS OVER HE BOMBED".

No way. I've supported Trump since the beginning, and this debate was a failure. He made Hillary look like a shining champion.

I can't find the poll, but it was from Fox News of all places:

Who won the debate?
63% Clinton
27% Trump

I'm not a supporter (not voting for anyone), but don't you think you support that you sound a little ridiculous in your echo chamber that is Cred Forums?


Multiple threads about Trump around Hillary, and then you see the opposite and freak the fuck out. Like you're just using cuck as a filler word at this point.

he was speaking too quickly and breathed through his nostrils too hard to compensate
IT WAS HORRIBLE. My wife's children were in the room!

The security aspect of cyber is very tough.

China is totally powerful about North Korea.

Whatever the fuck his line was where he said "bigly"

He sounded like a bumbling retard all night.

He did bomb, and Holt was biased. Though, Trump did have some chances to step on him, and didn't take them. I agree that no matter what the actual outcome was, MSM would declare Shilldog the winner. But, this was not a win for Trump.

>cyber

You know cyber is short for cyber-sex, right?

>This was the worst blow to the trump campaign ever.
Definitely. Don't get me wrong, I liked Trump before the debate and I still like him, but he failed to appeal to undecided voters overall which is where he lost out to Clinton.

He had a few good comebacks, but overall she had the upper hand through the entire debate. At this point the best we can hope for is that Shillary doesn't decide to sit out the rest of the debates for "health reasons" and The Don can make a comback in the second debate.

It's "big league".

Hillary supporter here. She won, and won hard...but Trump said "Big league."

he is right about china you dunce

When he referred to Obama as "her president", that one really got me.

Of course is he, too bad he had to express himself with the verbal sophistication of a fourth grader.

Hahahahahaha I knew Drumph was going get his dumb ass BTFO.

I'm not sure it even matters

The first half hour Trump gained in Michigan & Ohio

Maybe the last hour he was hurt in places like Florida and Colorado

People are over reacting, there's still two more debates and Trump has been written off before

Compared to Khangate he can bounce back bigly

He acted and sounded the same way he always does. What's with all the cucks here acting surprised? The only thing that surprised me was that Clinton stood that long unassisted.

Trump utterly destroyed her.

He talked about real plans and policy and Clinton just talked about Trump.

He had her on the ropes the whole times. All she could do was arrogantly smirk while she was losing. It was embarrassing for her and for the Democratic party.

SNNNIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFF

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HAHAHAHAHA FUCKING ALTERNATE REALITY TRUMPFAGS GOT KILLED TONIGHT, THERE MORON KING GOT EXPOSED sniff

Exactly. People are making too much of this. I think he should be much more ruthless going forward.

Thank you for Correcting The Record™

Shill.

TRUMPBOT

Lol, you got own'd. Pizzown'd

Even normies see it. Umad?

Yes. Umad. If you respond this post you lost alreadyl

Did we watch the same fucking debate? Holy shit you Trump retards are more delusional that I ever thought.

He didn't act like he always does. Maybe in the first half hour, if that's all you watched. He became unhinged towards the end. You could see it on Hillary's smug face that she won. This was a shitty strategy by Trump's advisers. He should just be himself next debate.

Are you a dumb, shitposter, or pretending to be stupid?

>sliding

But, user, there are polls to vote in:

Drumpf cucks maybe in the other timeline he won but here he lost. Deal with it and accept your future of pic related.

This is just denial.

the mexicans, dindus, and nu males are out in full force tonight

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kek

my favorite thing about that tactic is that lefties actually, genuinely don't understand it

both of them sucked, they just repeated all that they have been saying for the past year, hillary attacked using liberal garbage and trump counter attacked by using his old tweets pls kys if any of you actually think anyone in that debate was a clear winner

>both of them sucked
Sure sign of a supporter of the losing party.

check twitter, check Facebook, check youtube

many people are saying trump won out, but thanks for trying to correct the record

Pussy.

The best part was where he claimed stop and frisk wasn't unconstitutional

When I heard the fucking phrase "Words matter" in a debate when the topic was about ISIS, I almost laughed if it wasn't so sad. Clinton rapidly degenerated into her new Trump strategy of name calling, while Trump tried to stay on his new Clinton policy of correcting records, and talking about policy.

>implying
did you see the attacks hillary used? oh you called this nobody miss piggy, oh you filled bankruptcy 6 times, oh you wont release your tax reforms, and trump responded by saying oh i will release my tax reform if you release your 33k mails, oh i used bankruptcy because im smart, both of them just repeated the same shit they have been saying for the past year.

Unhinged? The debate was pretty dull desu. Trump needs to be absolutely brutal from here on out. Nothing off limits. Tell those who don't know what exactly Hillary Clinton really is.

UNDER BUDGET AND AHEAD OF SCHEDULE

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So she was on fire, right? Everyone is seeing what they want to see.

400 pound hacker. I got triggered

He went into this blind and without 1 on 1 debate experience.
Hillary has been hiding for days with a team of advisors running mock debates and memorizing answers with years of debate experience.

Trump played by ear and kept up with her. Now he and his team have something to work with and can prepare properly.

The best part was when he started whining about the attack ads. No one wants to hear that shit, least of all from Trump.

Please, he brings up that the Iran deal could have used their relations with N.korea and Yemen as leverage and this is a point of view I've yet to hear from anyone.

Clintons response immediately after was that he has no new ideas. Her responses were obviously rehearsed and canned, she was not prepared for trumps unpredictability. He hit her on points that the average American doesn't know about, the media and people who watch this all day already had much if the info already, but the average American tuning in for the evening got a massive dose of HRC redpills.

Trump looked like a boss and ran the debate, the moderator could not stop the schlonging that occurred

t. increasingly nervous man

The only way he was "keeping up with her" was getting baited left right and center and taking said bait. And not preparing isn't a good thing, it's just butthurt excuse-making.

My personal favorite was when he said sinking Iranian ships wouldn't start a war with Iran.

It was sniffling. You could hear his nose was clogged in the way he talked. Clearly had a cold, probably why he sucked dick in the debate, fogged out head. Hate that feeling.

>She looked stoned
Confirmed stealing the millennial vote from Johnson.

gg no re.

>Everyone is seeing what they want to see.
Then most people want to see Hillary as president.

>And not preparing isn't a good thing, it's just butthurt excuse-making.
he sideswiped her about spending several days off the campaign trail preparing, with a crack about "hope you're feeling better", and she came right back with "Sounds like my opponent is attacking me for.. preparing for this debate. I did prepare for it and that's why I'm prepared to be president"

that's gonna stick in normies minds, since Trump did seem poorly prepared, and made light of it before the debate. He threw her a meatball and she hit it hard.

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coke meme fail

keep trying to spread it, morons.

>fpwp

ANY, and I mean ANY, competent businessman will avoid whatever taxes that he/she can. You are beyond retarded if you think this hurts him in any way, Portugal. You drugged up cunt. Every american that isn't retarded and brainwashed will understand this.

Fuck off, you're wrong.

>and she came right back with "Sounds like my opponent is attacking me for.. preparing for this debate. I did prepare for it and that's why I'm prepared to be president"

>that's gonna stick in normies minds, since Trump did seem poorly prepared, and made light of it before the debate. He threw her a meatball and she hit it hard.

No, because it was a canned, phony line, and was delivered in a canned, phony style.

"hit it hard"

lousy shilling. try again. you just whiffed, faggot.

>complains about Hillary's health

> Is sick for a national debate

wew lad

The only good thing about this op is the picture.

that's pretty fucking spicy.

you're thinking like a Trump supporter who believes that Trump can do no wrong and Hillary can do no right.

You know who you're gonna vote for and you ain't gonna change. This debate wasn't about you. The debate was about appealing to normies that are undecided, or only weakly in one camp. And Hillary's whole pitch to that group is "He's way too dangerous, I'm someone you can trust with the presidency"

and Trump helped her make that pitch.

>Trump ridicules 400Ibs keyboard warriors
>400Ibs keyboard warriors flock to his defense and bomb online polls
You literally can't make this shit up.

All of the top businesses avoid paying income tax if they can.

Ever heard of "Hollywood Accounting"? That's where movie studios claim to make a loss despite films earning hundreds of millions of dollars. They claim they spent more on advertising or whatever to make it look like a loss so they don't pay taxes.

This is what Trump is talking about when he says there is $500B being kept in overseas bank accounts. The corporate tax rates are so unattractive in America that it is costing the country.

What Hillary called Trump-TrickleDown Economics, lowering the tax rate, could make America attractive enough that companies would bring money back where it belongs.

Do you Mark Cuban, who Clinton invited to the debates, pays a ton in income tax? Or do you think he, smartly, uses every tax law and loophole in the books to keep as much as he can? Of course he does. Every major business does that.

Hey nigger, do you understand how a complex western society works? If you don't want your country to look like a third world shithole like Somalia or West Virginia where everyone just smokes meth all day, you have to pay taxes and put effort into it.

that's the thing. Trump has a point. It is smart to minimize the taxes you owe, and there's nothing wrong with it. We do have a huge problem with companies keeping their cash overseas because there's a punitive tax on it (that no other country levies) when it's repatriated.

But even when he's right, he can't help himself from making it *look bad*. It looks bad when you're a presidential candidate and you admit to dodging taxes. Trump made himself look bad over and over again by how he said things.

Do you not think the tens of thousands of employees working for Trump pay taxes on their earnings?

Do you think Trump's business is alone in taking advantage of every tax loophole in the book? You're not honestly that stupid are you?

Besides, do you think The Clinton Foundation is on the level when it comes to taxes?

Trump went in wild for a reason. Trust in Trump. He hasn't let us down yet.

>It looks bad when you're a presidential candidate and you admit to dodging taxes.

It looks bad when you're a presidential candidate who gives speeches to all the Wall Street banks at $250k a pop.

It looks bad when you accuse your opponent of firing workers when you've allowed American diplomats to be slaughtered in foreign embassies.

It looks bad when you accuse Trump of racism towards Latinos when your party's email gets hacked and they referred to the latino voters as the Taco Bowl vote.

>Maybe the last hour he was hurt in places like Florida
Trump can't win without Florida

yeah pretty much, they're mad that they're losing everywhere and CTR can't keep things under control.

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Who didn't see this coming?

He tried going full berserker mode, no armor, no clothes, no items, no magic, just attack attack attack.

The problem is with the system, not the business men and women.

Hillary is the system.

Trump is the businessman.

Who do you blame, Trudeau cuck?

Both, in other words the system in bed with the businessmen.

Trips of Truth

It wouldn't. We have sunk their ships before and no war happened. They would run and hide and beg to not get into a war.

So someone that has fucked the system for as much money as possible, you blame just as much on a business man trying to be profitable.

I'm glad that muzzies will fuck your country up. Cucks like you deserve it.

Honestly, guys. Trump fucking sucks. He's a fucking loser that cant even shut a 70 year old felonious harpy up. He's a fucking cuck bitch.

The Mussies are, and will continue to, fuck with your country more per capita than mine, and unlike cucks like you I blame all parties at fault, not just some, while lubing my asshole up for others.

yeah, you'll notice every single shill thread is basically the same shit.

>hurr durr trump BTFO!!!!

nothing new and its the same old shit they've been spewing since the beginning of CTR.

just sage and move on, bump the trump general threads and ignore these idiots

>All of the top businesses avoid paying income tax if they can.

That is wrong, and we must fix it.

None of you have ever posted here. You will all mysteriously die within the next few years. Be happy for now, shills. Better hope this thread isn't archived but others will be an it's only a matter of time before you are figured out CTR CTR CTR

>I HAVE BETTER TEMPERAMENT THAN HILLARY

Trump isn't a giant criminal however. Clinton will hang

youtube.com/watch?v=O1xivG8LuiI

He was breathing from his mouth.

It real I noticed it.

In your dreams.

Hillary straight up threatened war with Russia over the perceived sources of the DNC leaks tonight. Donald Trump called her on it immediately. She responded with "Well certain news organizations [Wikileaks] are going to undergo reform when I am president" She is talking about Orwellian prophecies you fucking CTR cuck

>>You wanted the housing market to collapse.
>>"Yeah, that's good business."
Actually he is right...

washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/26/the-first-trump-clinton-presidential-debate-transcript-annotated/

Where?

That was CNN you tard.

The fundamental tenet of business is to increase profits for your shareholders. Paying taxes you could have otherwise avoided through shrewd, yet legal, financial tactics would make you a bad businessman.

I highly recommend you look into some of the unique tax avoidance schemes employed by large corporations all of the world. Probably my favorite is Ikea, which I find kind of ironic considering Sweden is such a socialist state.

>mfw stupid alt-righters are in damage control over sniffle-gate

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The Portuguese here knows how to kill business with high taxes.

You guys realize that not one actual news source is saying Trump "lost"

foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/26/trump-clinton-clash-at-fiery-first-debate-on-trade-tax-returns-temperament.html

The only ones saying anything like this are just individuals expressing their personal opinions on social media.

But don't let facts get in the way of reality.

He said some shit about like how he gets away with not paying taxes and still follows the law - I can't remember exactly but I'm sure we'll hear it.

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HER NAME IS UHLISHA MUHSHADOW

CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST TRUMPFAGS

dubs of desperation

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YOUR ENTIRE ADULT LIFE

It hurts me to admit this as a Hillary supporter, but Trump won the debate. Trump has my vote now.

Top kek shill harder

try harder you faggot fucking shill kill yourself

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only for ignorant hillary voters, most trump supporters know about his dirt.

I knew he would go off script and say some stupid things but he really outdid himself tonight

but he is right...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Praying_Mantis

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Some podcat called Sean Hannity

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>buh buh buh he lost!!

No one gives a fuck, Clinton has brought this up too many times. Her husband rapes little kids.

Sage CTR

>pointing to polls as reliable on the same site that's vote bombing every poll in sight
How butthurt can you possibly be? This is so delicious.

>posting the poll that got rigged here like 90 minutes ago
this is just insulting, guy

That's called baiting. We can see you CTR, you will all be burned and your addresses exposed.

>ITT: damage control to the max

lmao

The Clinton Shills are funny today.

>ITT: Shills everywhere

And dumbfucks with no idea the scope of corruption responding.... Fuck you foreign scum stay out of politics if you are not here to educate yourself of them. (sagin)

Tbh they don't really have much after tonight

You can tell how badly Trump lost the debate by observing how easily triggered his supporters get :^)

>i-i-it's a conspiracy!! the polls are rigged!!!

You mean those workers he admitted to not paying? x% of 0 is still 0.

That's the TIME poll, not the Gawker poll, CTR.

>And we recently have learned that, you know, that this is one of their preferred methods of trying to wreak havoc and collect information. We need to make it very clear -- whether it's Russia, China, Iran or anybody else -- the United States has much greater capacity. And we are not going to sit idly by and permit state actors to go after our information, our private-sector information or our public-sector information.

>And we're going to have to make it clear that we don't want to use the kinds of tools that we have. We don't want to engage in a different kind of warfare. But we will defend the citizens of this country.

>And the Russians need to understand that. I think they've been treating it as almost a probing, how far would we go, how much would we do.

Literally hinting at WWIII to leaders of world.

You can't possibly be this retarded.

Look at Clinton Foundation records.

Done?

Now shut the fuck up.

wait hol up so you be saying he threw the debate to lose on purpose?

>Wake up, all excited to hear about the debate
>Was expecting Trump to do well
>Hillary won the debate
>She'll probably win the election
JUST

>this much damage control

sad little gay leaf

>I have a feeling by the end of this debate I'll be blamed for everything
>Why not?
BASED TRUMP

Cred Forums is awash in damage control and I'm having a blast. Keep vote-bombing those polls, not-butthurt user.

FACT: (((Donald Trump))) threw the debate on purpose because he's CONTROLLED OPPOSITION

S'aight our tower's still up
How's that NY skyline lookin'?

>Hillary calls him out on not paying taxes
>Instead of defending he says,"They'd be squandered anyway."

Just, wait Trudeau cuck. Your time will come.

Maybe, maybe not. Regardless it begs the question: do you really want as President a man who can't even take a little name calling? Words? Mere trolling is worth taking a dozen or more lives?

Donald Trump is the living embodiment of that Navy SEALs meme we have floating around here.

>I'm glad that muzzies will fuck your country up

Your denial is delicious :^)

youtube.com/watch?v=Hpe_WsOGps0

lmao

Maybe the trolls wouldn't all be flocking here if Cred Forums wasn't in such obvious damage control.

It doesn't work like that, retard.

Clever people don't hear short words spoken in disjointed infantile sentences and struggle to understand, in fact they are more equipt to make sense of any sort of semi coherent nonsense.

When you hear big words spoken and feel stupid, unable to comprehend their meaning thanks to a life wasted on reality TV and TOP 10 google rap, make no mistake, that feeling is unique to idiots.

fucking this. I have faith, tonight almost dealt a blow to me and trusting him but he knows what he's doing, even the normies think he did ok tonight and it seemed like he didn't even bring his best tonight so he'll be fine guys.

i always thought that pic was photoshopped....

But the core issue is that he comes off, in that moment, as more of a businessman for himself than a businessman for the country.

The moderates and independents need to see some show of genuine care for the country and Hillary called Trump out on his happiness to see the country suffer, in a context, for personal gain.

why

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Praying_Mantis
That was before Iran started Nuke development AND the Ayatollah is considerably more extreme than he was even during the revolution in the 80s

>Wins all debate polls other than (((CNN)))

WEW, LAD, HE MUST BE SWEATING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE CTR SAYS HE LOST!!!!

Message to all you CTR shill faggots - I hope that you each die by having your mothers jump out of open windows, crushing you all as they land on top of you. You're human shit, so I wish ill will on the roastie vaginas that spewed you all out as well. Hopefully after Trump mops up in November, it'll be open season to come to your offices with torches and pitchforks to drag you out kicking and screaming for being the treasonous fucks you all are.

The question is who answers these polls?
The lionshare they're both going for are the moderates and independents and also, surprisingly, the hard-core leftists who are very sensitive to corporatists but still hold leftist views.
Trump has to fight his image of a dog-whistler for racists and general disconnect from minority voters.
Hillary has to fight her image as the puppet of the system.
And here I am voting for Gary Johnson since his work in New Mexico was pretty solid when I lived there

I didn't see it, but thats fucking gold.
Having a sense of humor while btfo of the politicians running the country it top tier.

its the primaries all over again. hurr dur trump lost the debate, its over for him guise. gonna love looking at all the butthurt on the 9th

The best scams are legal user. That's what they pay armies of accountants and Swiss banks for.

All of you pretend like it's not coming, my comment is from experience. Prepare yourself for the tide. You leafy cucks.

L O L Z

look at the trumptards, soaking in delusion

trump = toast

>The wrong members of the public are voting in public polls!
>Only approved members of the public who agree with the bias of the site it is posted to and myself are allowed to do that!

Which is why this election is so contentious
On one side you have a candidate who's fostered a cult of personality among his fans and stands against an incredibly hated opponent who even his party's moderates hate with a passion.
On the other hand, you have a candidate who won her primary largely through most of her constituents being too afraid to cast a ballot for a contestant who might lost because they want to 'feel like their vote matters' and, as you said, is so incredibly mired in Wall Street that she might as well be its Whore of Babylon.

The end result of this is that, for the most part, you get the two parties resting on extremely uneasy alliances built less on a trust of the candidate but rather a collective fear of loss of their personal livelihoods.

It's gonna be a hard choice for moderates and independents who might be not be single issue voters and have a pretty neutral opinion of Clinton going in.

But who made the system but the highest-level business men and women and bankers?
Who pays the special interest groups if not conglomerates?
Hillary is the symptom but Trump, undeniably, was at one point, part of the cause.

I'm not talking about voting, I'm talking about organized vote bombing, which does misrepresent overall views. Even Trump's aides were in damage control, there's no way neutral parties and casual Trump supporters thought he did better.

and hitler snatching up countries didn't start a war, until it did.

>businessmen are held to higher standard than that of those meant to serve the people

Get the fuck out of my country you ultra-faggot retard

Hillary converts to Islam.

Has Explosive Diarrhea on stage. Ends the debates.

The sample in an internet poll is not valid. you cannot draw any conclusions from it on a population level. Are you pretending to not understand that?

>maybe if I just keep saying Trump lost he might actually lose

nice campaign, liberals

If any of you idiots watch his rally's or press conferences he always does that, it's called controlled breathing

yeah, the microphones were fucked up

>it's called controlled breathing

He should try "controlled campaigning" next :^)

hillary wasn't breathing at all, you just didn't hear her

Want to know what the worst blow to clinton was?

The narrow necked abortionish 'feminist' aides she surrounded herself with who spoon fed her shit throughout her tenure at the state department. Then taking vast amounts of money to facilitate an arabian gulf muslim evangelical movement in the west.

Her single biggest mistake?

Asking anons to use their talents to overthrow dictators and then sitting there while the best and brightest of them got jailed or murdered while the civilian populations were left to die.

Never forget.
Never forgive.

>Hopefully after Trump mops up in November, it'll be open season to come to your offices with torches and pitchforks
of course you have to hope, because you're too much of a pussy to do anything yourself. put up or shut up ;)

Never Forgive. Never Forget.

Never Hillary.

WRONG

Either he's owned by Jews, or he's playing them like a fiddle.

I hope it's the latter, but i have admittedly a bad feeling.

CTR ON SUICIDE WATCH
>CTR ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>CTR ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>CTR ON SUICIDE WATCH

actually yeah.

I want a president that won't take shit from anybody.

I want a goddamn bulldog.

You want someone who can it up the ass, vote Obama. Oh wait, you already did.

A whole lot of effort all around, I'll give you that.

Damage control, damage control, everywhere, jajajajajajaja.

Clit doesn't even look human here. Uncanny as fuck.

Mirroring what I've seen of the 'debate' so far. Dude is going for the even lowest quality bait; he's entirely on the defensive. Does it get better, am about 30 mins in?

“Remember this. The people you're trying to step on, we're everyone you depend on. We're the people who do your laundry and cook your food and serve your dinner. We make your bed. We guard you while you're asleep. We drive the ambulances. We direct your call. We are cooks and taxi drivers and we know everything about you. We process your insurance claims and credit card charges. We control every part of your life.

We are the middle children of history, raised by television to believe that someday we'll be millionaires and movie stars and rock stars, but we won't. And we're just learning this fact. So don't fuck with us.”

You mean sabotaged. Cranked up every time T-man took a breath.

Its not about Trump winning in the eyes of the average Cred Forumstard, its about Hillary winning in the eyes of the average low-mid class ameritard
And Trump has lost big time there

Im definitely Trumping this election as everyone and their shill grandma are saying, but earnestly he could have done better. I thought he was going to turn up his calm talk show demeanor and walk through some policies, attack Clinton where she's vulnerable(everywhere) but instead he repeated himself 10 times every phrase or word he got stuck on. It works for rally's and speeches to repeat, but a debate is about quick spars and decisive jabs. Holt was biased, but bulldozing over him and the time limits will offend mainly women who hate getting talked over. Next time he needs to reel it in and lay off the coke this time. she was robotic as shit, could have been a hologram or robot for all it mattered. Hillary just had to deflect, redirect and smile smuggly waiting for Donald to make mistakes. I'm not too worried overall though.

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Those 400lbs hackers help meme Trump to get this far.

Way to cuck the fat/user demographic