I don't pay taxes, deal with it

He uses the Tax code, all legal, to put his income in charity and business expenditures rather than pay income tax

>WAAA WAAA WAAA he should pay more for no logical reason other than I'm a fucking commie.

>babies first ancap

YOU HAD A BAD DAY

Yeah he puts it into a charity and then uses it as a bank account to pay legal fees, bribe judges and purchase giant portraits of himself.

Poll rigging doesn't count.

You do realize widespread tax evasion is what caused Greece to fuck their own economy over

it is every american's duty to pay the least amount of taxes as possible.

He's literally retarded. Thanks, kek, you fucking cunt

It hurts me to admit this as a Hillary supporter, but Trump won the debate.

because he declared his nationality. if you don't, you're a ward of the state. pro tip: the united states of america is a corporation and has bonds against you (birth certificate, driver's license, marriage license, mortgage, etc)

Brigading polls is probably the most useful thing Cred Forums and the_donald have ever done.

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Where did I say it was illegal? Please point it out.

The point is the phrase "I don't pay Income tax" doesn't sit well with really anybody except other people who do it. People are going to look at him as a shady person who avoids taxes, regardless of if he avoids them legally or not.

said no undecided voter.

>people actually think Trump gets a biweekly paycheck like we all do

How so he did nothing illegal

only democrats think trump should pay more than legally required, because they are literal fascists

Nobody thinks this.

>400000 votes

Four

Hundred

Thousand

He means he knows the loopholes and he knows how to fix them, he knows what he is doing

thanks for correcting the record

Not proven, and its amazing how upset Dems get at this kind of corruption but dont care that Hillary has done much worse.

So he should pay more than he is legally required to? why because you would like him too?

Nobody should pay ANY income tax.

thats the most American thing anyone has ever said.

Everyone who finds an issue with what he says does. When you get rich to a point you stop paying income tax because you have no income

I'm gonna try to explain this one more time.

Whether it's technically legal or not, doesn't matter to voters. Avoiding taxes is avoiding taxes. People do not like that.

look up Hillary's endless amounts of crony Capitalism centered around her foundation.

Hell, just ask Haiti what they think of the Clintons after she "rebuilt" their country. Funny how the media doesn't care that Hillary scammed an entire nation of black people against their will for profit.

>pay income tax on income
>Invest that income
>Pay capital gains tax on already taxed income
>Get rich to a point where you can stop paying retarded taxes that get burned sending away to Israel
>Trump is wrong

Ok

>I don't pay income taxes doesnt sit well with really anybody
Really? Because i wasnt fucking suprised when he said it, nor did that influence my opinion of him
All big businesses do that. It's not illegal, it's not shady, it's just a practice to save money. If you disagree with it, fine, but that's an issue with the system, not Donald Trump.

He means he took advantage of rules that are there. Those rules should have been changed by politicians like Hillary Clinton.

He means that he thinks those rules need to change but lobbyists like himself have corrupted Washington to get these kind of rules in place to benefit them.

Now he has had a change of heart.

I dont know a single person that would be upset that You or I or anyone is avoiding taxes other than Faccist/commies or Berniebot assclowns

Fuck your pleb problems we should have never universalized suffrage.

you guys are fucking dense. the user is trying to make the point that to the average taxpayer "I don't pay taxes lol" is offensive. his point is it made him look bad. he's not giving his opinion on how trump deals with his taxes

Thanks for Correcting The Record, Trumpfags. You are now as pathetic as Hillaryfags

>he pays taxes

oh wagie you

>I don't pay taxes because the corrupt system makes it possible.
He's a law abiding citizen, taking advantage of those corrupt and sleazy tax codes. Now he wants to fix it and people won't support him.

I know what he is saying and he is wrong.

I would argue that the average person would say "you got all your taxes deducted, good for you... How can I??"

not everyone is as jealous and vindictive as you fags.

Look at it this way.

A game developer accidently leaves a hole in a map, and you can glitch into a place where people can't kill you, but you can kill them.

A player is abusing this glitch.

Do you blame the player or the developer? I would say both are at fault.

If given the choice between two corrupt greedy fuckers for president I'll pick the one that has experience in foreign affairs, is intelligent enough to ask the right questions and has probably read a few books on philosophy.

The average tax payer gets taxed a couple hundred I would assume. A rich person is in a completely different tax bracket and that % is even more devastating. Imagine working twice as hard and making less than before and paying more taxes to the government. You bet your ass you would look for loopholes.

Not to mention that it is also a practice encouraged by the IRS itself.

>The terrible analogies begin

I wish more people understood this.

He isn't even breaking the laws by not paying taxes. It's ridiculous and he knows it and wants to fix it.

Yeah Drudge put it at the top of their page. It helps when most republicans get their news from Drudge and are all directed to an internet poll. That's some grade A community organizing.

Anything can be made to look cool if you're alpha enough, OP.

Problem is, most people don't know shit about economics.

So while the few of us who understand that knowing how to game the tax system is actually a plus for Trump, because it shows he understands how broken the system is, most people ( Plebs ) will hear that has "HAHAHA FUCK THE POOR IM AN EVIL RICH GUY WHO DOESN'T PAY HIS 'FAIR SHARE'"

So while he was correct, it actually was a self stump due to the fact that most people are retards. Trump needs to understand this for next debate. Most people are not wise enough to devise the true meaning behind what he is saying. Most people take things at face value and don't really put most thought into it.

He needs to reel back and start putting things more clearly or he will lose the election purely because too many people are too dumb to understand what he is saying, so they will default to assuming Hillary is correct because while her ideas are either retarded or dishonest, they are easy for the average joe to comprehend.

Was Trump right about everything this debate? Yes. Did he win? No.

This is where politicians win. They know people are dumb and play on that. Trump assumes people understand his world they won't and won't bother to educate themselves.

Well that why Cred Forums 400 lbs Neet's vote for him

You do realize that is exactly his point right?

He means start a fucking business so you can write everything off while creating jobs and boosting the economy you fucking jealous idiot.

>I can't find a counterarguement
>"T-terrible analogy dude"

Nice.

Problem is, most people don't know shit about politics.

So while the few of us who understand that knowing how to game the political system is actually a plus for Hillary, because it shows she understands how broken the system is, most people ( Plebs ) will hear that has "HAHAHA FUCK THE CITIZENS IM AN EVIL POLITICIAN GOY WHO PLAYS THE SYSTEM'"

So while she was correct, it actually was a self stump due to the fact that most people are retards. Hillary needs to understand this for next debate. Most people are not wise enough to devise the true meaning behind what she is saying. Most people take things at face value and don't really put (((most))) thought into it.

She needs to reel back and start putting things more clearly or she will lose the election purely because too many people are too dumb to understand what she is saying, so they will default to assuming Trump is correct because while his ideas are either retarded or dishonest, they are easy for the average joe to comprehend.

Was Hillary right about everything this debate? Yes. Did she win? Yes.

You denying your analogy isn't terrible is like you denying the Holocaust goyim.

See that's the magic of analogies. Change the topic to something more manageable and dishonest and watch your opposition squirm.

does ''write everything off'' mean not pay your invoices from contractors?

His tower in Las Vegas is so cool!

The point of analogies are to simplify the argument so the weak minded (you) can understand it.

Not true
All he had to do in the coming days and weeks is explain why he said what he said and peoppe will hear it because he IS the media at this point kek
I believe once the election is over most outlets will have to shit down due to lack of content and ratings/viewership tanking so hard since they don't have a daily donald to bitch about all day

Jews get SOOOO hard when you use tax loopholes.

>it's okay to do ethically wrong things to benefit yourself so long as you don't get in trouble.

guess what tards, billionaires can get custom tax loopholes written just for them!! why? cause selling loopholes is the only way congress can raise money they need for next election. duh

Please tell me that's a real woman's ass.

Drudge's poll is only at ~150k as I type this post, are you saying Time (with the 400k poll) is where most Republicans get their news?

So he's a hypocrite?
Truly the disposition of a winner

If I contract someone to do work and they breach the contract, I'm not paying them.

If your construction contract specifies a certain level of material grade, or strict adherence to building plan, and you don't supply the correct material grade, or fail to complete the plan, you didn't fulfill your end of the deal.

(((experience in foreign affairs)))

>Just because it's possible for the government to take your money doesn't mean it's right.

You're absolutely correct about that.

Saying, "I'm not satisfied with the work" when the companies you contracted fulfilled everything in the contract and then burying them under legal fees is not the same thing as the contracted companies not fulfilling their end of the bargain.

He shafted those companies.

Fuck off shill

You mean the one who destroyed the middle east? Or the one who owns a hotel in the middle east?

>Only stumps himself to people who have no understanding about economics.

So the general public and the average voter?

No I am saying that Drudge links to the Time poll at the top of their page. The primo "breaking news" area above the image.

Can you name them and give a source?

>or anyone
>referring to the president of the USA

how do YOU not get it? of course no ones gonna give a shit if joe-bloe minimum wage dodges taxes but we are talking about the president hopeful for fucks sake. do you actually think its ok for trump to openly admit in front of millions of people that he skirts the law and doesn't contribute to the country he is supposedly going to run? even if you agree that taxes are stupid then fine but you have to admit he SHOULDN'T HAVE ADMITTED IT. because of this, he just decreased his chances of winning.

im curious, has anyone here actually done this before? i mean avoiding taxes through loopholes?

if so, what process do you go through to accomplish this?

By your logic, 90% of blacks should vote Trump now.

Trump supported the Iraq war. Trump supported taking out Gaddafi.

He's no better than a fucking illegal. Gas this kike. Donald = crook. unpatriotic fag

I would ask you the same thing. Can you name and cite where these contracted companies, as you put it, "If your construction contract specifies a certain level of material grade, or strict adherence to building plan, and you don't supply the correct material grade, or fail to complete the plan, you didn't fulfill your end of the deal."

Seems more likely to me that Donald "I take advantage of all laws Ethical or Otherwise in order to benefit myself" was simply taking advantage of having the resources at his disposal to not have to pay for services rendered. But you're a shill of the Trump variety so I don't expect you to be objective.

But it's bad experience, haven't you listened?

This was his point from day one, i dont understand whats the big deal.

This desu,

Proud non-taxpayer here.

And the taxes I do pay are minimal compared to the average cuck.

Really sucks being too poor to afford a tax lawyer & accountant.

It was a poor response.

The reality is that this man has paid more taxes than millions of Americans combined.

He really shat the bed tonight. Not the Trump people became enthralled with. He needs to go in for the kill, soft doesn't work.

you mean the one who compromised classified secretes on an unsecured illegal private server while inside of a hostile foreign nation?

you mean THAT person?

>I don't pay taxes because I'm smart
>that's right,you idiot tax payers,you're dumb as fuck
what a fucking retard

He's telling people if they don't like it to change the law. They could have changed the law ages ago, but didn't.

Most people paying off politicians like clinton benefit from the current system in place so it would never get changed under her.

secrets*

>Trump supported taking out Gaddafi.

And sociopath Hillary joked and laughed about it.

No you fucking idiot, it's the player fault since he chooses to glitch. A honest player doesn't do that even knowingit.

>He gives nothing back to the country he's milked for his successes.

Presidential material.

Fuck Gaddafi. he would have been killed regardless. His people hated the ruthless dictator

In case you didn't know, he's been talking about tax loopholes for companies for the entire campaign. It was one of the earliest issues he raised and people complained then that voters wouldn't trust him because he claimed to have abused them himself. You're taking one comment he made out of context, and more importantly treating it like it's in a vacuum. He's made this exact comment plenty of times before. Just because you weren't aware of it doesn't mean nobody is.

Your argument here is demonstrably wrong. It kind of seems like you didn't actually watch the whole debate or hear the rest of that question either. This all happened at the same time as he claimed that wealthy folks will end up paying more with with lower rates than with current ones thanks to widespread avoidance.

You can't be successful in the country as it is exists now. Starting a business is more difficult than ever and the barriers to entry to the upper class are only getting higher. The vast majority of working people are acutely aware of this fact. Unless you already have money, startup costs and licensing prevent entry to almost every industry.

You can run a small business for as long as you want, but it will remain small forever. You need to be able to come up with $50,000,000 to start out or you're never going to have more than a handful of employees as operating costs overwhelm any possible income. This is especially fucking dire alongside Hillary's estate tax hike and minimum wage. Even if your parents left you an investment you will receive none of it and the cost of doing business for smaller businesses will increase exponentially.

Economic mobility is taking a fucking dive. I don't know how you can twist an entire campaign based on opening new factories, bringing home outsourced work, and lowering taxes as some kind of slight against the average voter. This is like accusing Bernie of being a Jewish socialist and expecting his voters to be appalled and abandon ship.

Sociopath donald joked about Hillary being assassinated.

>getting rich
>paying taxes

why do you think the left wants to increase the taxes

And Hillary still laughed and joked about it. Sociopath.

You're just regurgitating what you heard today at debate or what some obscure leftist rag is trying to make hot topic now.

Even if few companies were shafted (maybe they were, I bet Trump dealed with thousands) are you, in good conscience, put that on the same level with what Hillary did, aka blowing up Libya, Egypt and Syria, causing tens of thousands of deaths, then running guns through Libya via Turkey to Syria.

Plus the email server who put in dangers many people abroad.

Paying 100 billion+ to Iran (well if you're Valerie Jarret I bet you're delighted)

Hilary and her army, grasping at straws

there optional, I also don't pay them and never will they are a scam.

So? I joked and laughed about ISIS and al quaeda getting blown up all the time. Fuck terrorists

Holy shit fucking kill yourself lmao

They both are. And it's good. You don't want a leader who would have trouble giving orders because it'd hurt people.

>boo you total sociopath!
>tells stranger to kill themselves

I'm glad you concede the point.

I don't deem him likely to do jack shit about the the loopholes because it is historically uncharacteristic. He's even lobbied for them. He admits it. I don't buy that line.

>You're just regurgitating what you heard today at debate or what some obscure leftist rag is trying to make hot topic now.
Not an argument.

What a great country is America, where the cheaters and criminals can race for the presidency. It´s like Spain, with more money.

We're number 1! We're number 1! We're number 1!

Income tax is not the only source of revenue for the US. Income tax only affects the middle class. Too rich to get welfare. Too poor to get deductions.

One day you'll learn when you get a job.

If you have to ask you probably can't access them.
For example
You can gift your child up to 10k before its taxed.

>it's immoral to not give money to the government so they can waste it
Keep trying, ctr cycle.

I'm not conceding any argument, because absolutely no concrete data was shown. Hitlery just mentioned "an architect in audience" without any other proof, not that such a lowly subject should be mentioned on a presidential debate.

Was solely done to thrown Trump off balance (new thing, had to think about it)

I see you just disregarded the second half of my comment, but yes, it was an appeal to your conscience and you have none.

Next time you bleeding-hearth see some movie with children ripped to bits by Isis - a little part of that is because you, too.

Trump
>I don't pay taxes, deal with it

Hilary
>I take your tax money and don't feel the need to represent your interests

And somehow media spins that to be a Hillary win.

>I don't deem him likely to do jack shit about the the loopholes
Well, everything else he's doing indicates that he's trying to grow the economy and increase wages. Like for example removing the overwhelming number of unskilled laborers in the country illegally that can work for lower wages and with fewer benefits than citizens.

We're getting past the point where you can go on NOT fixing this. Eventually the course we've set leads to a permanent economic collapse in the West and ethnic replacement. If this particular policy were to be false, then all of them would have to be. This would be the single one which goes against the trend.

This policy is in-character with all of his others; if he were explicitly defending corporate interests a lot of his other policies would be equally troublesome. You either have to admit he's serious because he has no choice but to help the economy or that he's intentionally misleading everyone and that NONE of his policies would go into effect if he was elected.

only communist morons who have no income would think trump is doing something wrong. he has been audited practically every year of his adult life- if he were doing something wrong they would throw him in federal prison quicker than you can say james comey.

exactly. are people really this brain dead?