black jazz musicians were really good, but most of them were still coons who would steal and rob people with a knife for drug and alcohol money. charlie parker used to pawn his alto for heroin money, then borrow other people's altos for his performances. after that, he would pawn that one, too, for more heroin money
Eli Powell
That's great, OP. You still don't know the difference between blacks and niggers.
Charles Watson
NIGGERS ARE OKAY BECAUSE ONE DEAD ONE CAN PLAY SHITTY MUSIC THAT OP LIKES EVERYBODY
>the racist nazis agree and say some blacks are alright people >NO RACISTS TRY AGAIN
wat
Liam Adams
>title: Hey racists who say blacks are good for nothing
Kek they are good for picking cotton
Elijah Scott
reminder that louis armstrong left new orleans because racist niggers didn't want him having white musicians in his band
Robert Cruz
Well, anyone can be a bigot! :)
Brandon Collins
>Rare exceptions redeem the rest
Nope.
Isaiah Hall
There is no difference. There are no bro-tier blacks.
Cameron Rogers
nobody denies that certain blacks have contributed a lot to music
Lucas Gutierrez
When people say blacks are good for nothing they just mean actually working. They are great at entertainment, which is why we have some of the music we have today, as well as why they dominate sports. Good or bad, they are around for our entertainment.
Connor Howard
Fuck off nigger lover.
Jaxon Harris
This is actually nothing compared to what whites were doing 100˙s of years before that. It`s actually more simplistic.
Also just because one nigger has musical talent does not mean that he was very intelligent
Evan Jenkins
says the snownigger fuck off vlad, spread your aids somewhere else
Adrian Fisher
>They are great at entertainment, which is why we have some of the music we have today
Most of the nigger entertainment and music is crap though.
Jonathan Ramirez
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Carter Ward
lol you think we hate every single black while the reality is that we hate affermative action, gangsta culture, white guilt and blm
Jaxon Cooper
People gobble up shit, user. Humans are pack animals. They see that everyone likes *insert thing here* so they like *insert thing here*.
Bentley Price
What gave you the impression pol was racist, OP?
If you don't think Scott Joplin was based, you're pretty much a nigger.
Matthew Hall
>but you can't deny the mans impressive skills sure i can 1. he is a nigger 2. dont give a fuck about niggers who make music 3. he is a nigger 4. a 5. NIGGER
why do nigger lovers try to make their self's feel better by post stuff like this
Ryan Garcia
There sure is a difference, just like the difference between a white man and white trash. It's okay. I know nouns can be hard, faggot.
Leo Ramirez
a 13% minority manages to be involved in 70% of the robberies and 52.5% of the murders and you wish to compare my peaceful nation to them you cuck?
Not to mention that most of your niggers are 1/4 white but still retarded. Just wait till you see full niggers from Africa
Ayden Robinson
This belongs on Cred Forums
Anthony Fisher
You know your race has failed when you need to come up with 1 (ONE) individual to make it look better.
Adrian Nelson
>russia >peaceful i couldn't kek any harder if i wanted too
David Parker
>listening to some scratchy ass record of coon tunes by some ancient fucking mooncricket >basically old slave claptrap, minus chains >ragtime >2016
Oh wow, was that before we put man in space?
Juan Collins
Sheeiiit, I've heard this before. Can't remember what it was from though
David Brooks
He's from Slovenia...
Kayden Baker
WE
Leo Allen
Your country is 60% white and falling, at this point there are no "bro tier" blacks since they create more children and grandchildren which will be a problem later on.
Wake up, you will see your white youth hit the 30% pretty soon with all the racemixing and them having more children than you
Austin Hernandez
I am from Slovenia which is one of the safest countries in europe actually. Probably one of the safest capital cities in the world too.
blacks are good for a lot, but when they threaten white civilization and Europe then can FUCK OFF
Brayden Miller
>Some black people have legitimate talent, that means you can't criticize the way BLM conducts themselves! >It also means you should really pay reparations to Tyrone :(
Corrected consider record my! :D
Brody Turner
>good for a lot
What does this mean?
Daniel Parker
\WE WUZ FIGUREHEADS OF PIANO MUSIC
Nolan Lewis
Bro learn what an uncle tom means. What the fuck you are a total embarrassment to your fellow racists. At least they have arguments and logic.
Tyler Ramirez
A few well behaved blacks is not a problem but they ALWAYS have to be put in their place unless things get really bad.
Blacks should be born 2nd class citizens and strive to reach equality by proving themselves. Also once they reach a certain % they should give up their right to reproduce or go back to Africa
David Wilson
Blacks don't make complex music any more though, pop music was dominated by a faggot called deadmau5 and rhythm was dominated by a based man named Richard D James
I wonder if it really is true, that suffering made them make good music, because they sure as hell aren't anymore and they have it better than ever, yet their music couldn't be more cocky, entitled or simple, hell they actually just steal it all, add a drum track and basically talk over it in a slurred voice where they sound drunk, which would make sense because they're beginning to not even have good rhymes as if they're too fucked up to remember even the last verse and end up saying the same fucking word to rhyme, it's pathetic
Leo Ramirez
Cicero said: the existence of an exception confirms the existence of the rule.
Levi Harris
And shiieeeet
Hunter Mitchell
Sup Serbin. I have some questions. What is the % of native Serbs in Serbia? I would say my country is like 80% Slovenian 12% Bosnian a few % Albanian Croatian Serbian
Bosnians and Albanians are a real problem here. I wish you genocided the muzzies
Angel Rogers
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Lincoln Watson
Old timey blacks were stand up citizens for the most part and all of them were Republicans.
Michael Phillips
Why does it matter? Racists will be racists. Red pilled minorities are fucked either way. Some of them revert back to being blue pilled because they're sick of being shit on by the folks on here. An ugly white NEET virgin is still somehow more valuable than any moderately successful minority or mixed race. I used to be pissed off about "fuck white people" but now I turn a blind eye here and there. You guys can't fight this shit on your own, stop alienating exceptional minorities. I wonder if weakness and cuckoldry is recessive like you faggots, should breed the fuck of out it for y'all.
Lincoln Hughes
That would make sense. Most artists generally have a rough upbringing or are unhappy in some way.
Aiden Nguyen
Awesome got what I needed..
So now I must ask a very important question, the definition of intelligence has expanded into emotional intelligence, musical intelligence, scientific intelligence, social intelligence etc etc.
So I must ask, do you actually believe this is some liberal concept to make people feel good, or as I suspect is there some truth to this?
Because you have total autists who are incredibly good with numbers but absolutely retarded with social skills.
And you have blacks leading the genre of ragtime and jazz, essentially modern day Mozarts, but completely awful at any type of science.
Scott Joplin probably had a basic grasp of music theory, but completely decimated all the white millennial liberals graduating from music school today in terms of complexity and game changing ideas.
N o w h e r e i s where it gets DEEP
Evolution designed us with a specific intent of survival. Therefore it's arguable that scientific intelligence trumps all. But why is music so popular then? Why should we care about it if it's so irrelevant to our survival?
Does it perhaps have a connection to the divine nature of man? Some implicit attunement to the natural order of the universe? Or.. am I just completely full of bullshit?
Camden Young
Fucking hell man.. I'm going to think about this all night. This is why I come here.
Aiden Roberts
Music creates a dissociative effect which affirms social bonds through the feeling of oneness. That's fundamental to the human experience, from the most primitive tribes to shitty European electronic music festivals.
Kayden White
While I may agree that's correct.. music has some spooky mathematical properties. Some even relating to the infinite.
Julian Morales
"Uncle Tom" nowadays means any black who doesn't have at least one felony and hasn't burned down at least one business or home
Blake Barnes
So what do you want me to agree on? That they're natures jesters? Okay I agree
Bentley Ortiz
That is an outlier.
The mean is what's statistically important when analyzing different aspects of society.
Juan Campbell
imagine typing out all this shit, and no one's going to read a single word of it.
Colton Morris
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Connor Thompson
I'm sure leafs are used to it.
Eli Stewart
>muh music
Literally the only positive contribution blacks have ever made to this country
Liam Price
How many Googles play piano nowdays?
Jose Fisher
10/10
Logan Rivera
I have all of Joplin's recordings. Maple Leaf Rag was the reason I wanted to play piano. Guitars were easier to lug around so I stuck with that until tendinitis and a host of problems took my hands, but I still play. Mainly the blues
Carter Gonzalez
haha excellent
Jordan Fisher
An alien species comes to visit our planet.
Are they going to be impressed by our shitty scientific advancements they invented thousands of years ago?
Or might they care more about our culture and art which they might not have been creative enough to make? (probably not but it's more likely than being impressed by tech)
Joseph Turner
>using an exception to contest the rule
???
Carter Morgan
The difference being that he was being productive and non-degenerate.
Zachary Hall
I'm trying to learn it now. Very hard so far.
Did you figure it out? Got any advice?
Jeremiah Bell
Any Beethoven or Mozart piece (or any European classical composer for that matter) is 1000x more impressive than some coon on the piano
Gonna have to try harder than that
Robert Cook
That's wonderful! Blacks should really stand together and take their culture back to Africa!
Grayson Watson
In earlier times, most Americans could play a musical instrument. The Globalist Technocrats took that away. Thanks Democrats
Sheet music from a music store, then practice. Repetition is the mother of all learning.
Mozart is great, Beethoven not so much. Give credit where it's due, all are gifts from God. It's what we do with the gifts that matter.
Banging two rocks together is the precursor to all music but I dont see you praising that you retarded hipster
Hudson Mitchell
good taste OP
Dylan Martinez
Mozart and Beethoven were fantastic for their time, but nowadays saying they are good is kind of like saying Citizen Kane is your favorite movie. No one is going to argue, because Citizen Kane singlehandedly redefined the movie industry, but on the subconscious level people are going to wonder why you stick to such dated movies and if you only love it because you want to look cultured.
Although I will give an exception to moonlight sonata, that shit is absolutely out of this world and almost proves the existence of God to me.
Joseph Miller
>Mozart and Beethoven were fantastic for their time, but nowadays saying they are good is kind of like saying Citizen Kane is your favorite movie. No one is going to argue, because Citizen Kane singlehandedly redefined the movie industry, but on the subconscious level people are going to wonder why you stick to such dated movies and if you only love it because you want to look cultured.
Says the man citing a musician who died almost 100 years ago
Mason Anderson
In my opinion Scott Joplin is much harder to learn on piano than Beethoven and Mozart.
I can't really proclaim that is evidence that Scott Joplin is more intelligent than Beethoven or Mozart though. I'm sure the greats will be remembered far longer than Joplin.
But it takes a certain amount of skill and coordination to master ragtime. I would say that Scott Joplin is more impressive than 99% of white musicians today.
Josiah Hall
So what? Did he invent anything that was helpful to the human race in any way? Sure, niggers are good at music, but was music an integral part of Apollo 11? Does music have a legitimate use to the human race?
Connor Roberts
never said black people are good for nothing, its the niggers that give you guys a bad name
Dominic Smith
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Hudson Allen
Mozart and Beethoven died about 200 years prior to this guy, if you want to compare mad piano skillz, listen to Liszt or Chopin.
Actually, fuck it, listen to a Bach Fugue from 400 years ago and then to some rag time. Gimme a break.
Jackson Collins
> I have decided that you are racist > NOW ACT LIKE A RACIST BECAUSE I LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT NOW
Wew lads.
Justin Moore
HEY Cred Forums LOOK AT THIS INDIVIDUAL PERSON
THIS TRULY DESTROYS ALL THE EVIDENCE PROVING THE REST OF HIS KIN BEHAVE IN A CERTAIN WAY
Asher Gomez
> Cred Forums is racist Lurk more faggot and stop believe any kind of shit people says.
Kayden Barnes
>Actually, fuck it, listen to a Bach Fugue from 400 years ago and then to some rag time. Gimme a break. You are letting your personal taste interfere, the purposes and uses of their music were different so it isn't fair to compare them. Some Joplin pieces are amazing and complex, and some Bach pieces are pieces of shit no one remembers. Both were virtous in their respective genres.
Bentley Carter
Scott Joplin is a great American. Born to freed slaves, he was classically trained by a German immigrant teacher in Missouri. Over the course of his life he always wanted to make his music accepted by refined European audiences much like Gershwin.
He wrote the most reprinted song in the country in 1898 and was I believe the first music artist to personally earn royalties rather than the publisher. He wrote an original opera about freed slaves working to improve themselves through education shortly before his premature death. Much of the work is lost due to a producer running off with all the box office tickets and original music.
All of his music is fun to listen to. I particularly enjoy The Great Crush Collision Waltz which is a piano rendition of the publicity stunt where two trains intentionally crashed into each other at high speed. Some say Joplin witnessed it himself.
Alexander Cook
I'm not here to be racist but how come blak people don't make cool music anymore?
Coontunes are fun and all, but the realest Honorary White Man is right here.
Carter Long
What kind of question is that? Who knows what an alien civilization may or may not value. Fuck you, xenophobe.
Jaxon Phillips
Moldova with the philosophy bants. O L D O V A
Matthew Martin
"Uncle Tom" means any black person who doesn't constantly demonize and blame Whitey for all of their problems.
Ethan Rivera
Not just based music. His mother instilled a Frederick Douglass sort of "education is the key" mentality, and he was one of the serious "get your shit together, guys" activists.
His entire life was about raising his own people up -- he regularly called out fellow blacks who didn't work, were criminals or junkies, etc. One of his main lines of attack was along the lines of "you will never get white respect as long as you keep acting like you do."
His early lessons were with a crazy old German who instilled a love of European music, especially opera. He desperately wanted to write that very high-end classical music and approached it from the point of view of poor black culture. As a result, musical analysis of his songs/tunes/structure are far more legitimate than most other ragtime being written. His music is more pleasing to the ear because he approached it more formally and wanted to create Art, not just sell a piece to a publisher for PurpleDrank money.
He used his fame as a vehicle for giving piano lessons and life lessons to poor blacks, mentored several, and was by ever account a good man, accepted in white circles and black.
t. musician writing a musical based on his life. Pretty fascinating stuff
Jeremiah Scott
>how come blak people don't make cool music anymore?
Crack and meth. Also, the 70s ended.
Caleb Martin
I legit feel sorry for that Debussy nigga. Looks painful. I hope he got treatment in prison.
Jaxon White
Good post. I am Can we be friends?
Nicholas Butler
>The figurehead of ragtime piano music.
anybody can shoot smack and sound good banging on an out of tune piano
Isaiah Rivera
sorry home base skillet cash gee money grip
rap isn't music
Hunter Smith
>implying there's no difference between black people and niggers. Who's the racist here?
according to military tests music is associated with math
Nolan Murphy
>Guitars were easier to lug
just grab a dx7 dummy
Hudson Nelson
>Any Beethoven or Mozart piece (or any European classical composer for that matter) is 1000x more impressive than some coon on the piano
sort of but not exactly, they're different styles, basically in the modern era nobody beats Art Tatum, Lenny Tristano is a close second.
Jaxon Fisher
>The Globalist Technocrats took that away.
now even black guys can't play, because they'd rather dress up like a fool and hold a microphone like a retard
Brody Harris
>You still don't know the difference between blacks and niggers.
Andrew Davis
>THIS TRULY DESTROYS ALL THE EVIDENCE PROVING THE REST OF HIS KIN BEHAVE IN A CERTAIN WAY
not in the slightest, rule through lack of protein is a specific problem especially in African societies but all peoples are affected by this truth of human existence
Grayson Morales
Seems like a pretty cool nigger desu
Anthony Myers
>Watching documentary about Americas role in ww1 >Gets to the black hellfighters portion >Sudden jazz >Main pioneer survives war >Gets stabbed in the neck by his drummer the day after welcoming parade
Musically, it is rudimentary. Harmonic content is limited to diatonic chords, at a time when Brahms,Schoenberg etc had pushed the boundaries.
Joplin Music is akin to the folk songs written centuries previous. The fact he has 1, maybe 2 memorable tunes is testament to the overall weakness of his oeuvre
Colton Cox
>I'm not here to be racist but how come blak people don't make cool music anymore?
Why make music when you can just rhyme some words together
Leo Wilson
>I'm not here to be racist but how come blak people don't make cool music anymore?
plot by jews to destroy the black community with crack and rap culture
Daniel Jenkins
>Or.. am I just completely full of bullshit?
Yes.
Lincoln Flores
>Why make music when you can just rhyme some words together
some jew at a record label has a gold record waiting for anyone willing to rap shoot niggers sell crack pimp women etc
Angel Ward
I could play ABBCBBA on a recorder in middle school.
I own a guitar, but rarely pick it up, instead favoring my firearms.
Landon Stewart
10/10 bantz
10/10 cuck
Logan Russell
I truly and genuinely dont give a shit about race, racialism, racism, nazism or any of that shit here FOR TEH LULZ
Thanks for the music btw. American Black people always had pretty good tunes tho, nothing new there.
Hunter Rodriguez
>Hey racists! >I found one monkey who isn't a complete nigger >this one person disproves everything!
Crime stats, nigga.
Logan Scott
...says the neet
Jose Morris
>In my opinion Scott Joplin is much harder to learn on piano than Beethoven and Mozart.
>retard alert
Charles Jackson
KeK
Jack Bennett
Nice projection, you literal nigger.
Aiden Stewart
youre a fucking troll
Evan Gonzalez
everything Bach wrote was good. prove me wrong
Jaxson Lee
bum p
Levi White
Is it akin to the golden ratio/fibonacci where things are visually pleasing when they appear in a certain way?
Which then begs the question of how different types of music are more appealing to some than others.