Peter Hitchens is right

The west is dead. WW1 and WW2 destroyed the established order and made way for globalism.

The decline of Christianity and its moral code caused an increase in degeneracy.

The collapse of marriage destroyed the family unit and the most fundamental contract in society.

Chimpouts, mudslimes, and roasties are symptoms of the actual problems not the problems themselves.

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>WORSHIP A KIKE OR YOU'RE IMMORAL!!!!11111
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Proving my point. Christian values are what helped stop degeneracy.

don't remind me

second week on pol?

nah
stop worshiping Middle Eastern religions you cuck, return to your roots.

The most degenerate practice IMO, is the allowed continuous spread of neo-liberalism and unchecked capitalism.

Hitler knew; 3rd option is the only option.
Most successful economic model in recorded History.

Ironically, most of Cred Forums is too jewcucked to understand this, and will fight it because TV told them socialism is evil.

>return to roots.
So nords, anglos, and aryans should become tree fucking marauding rapists.

>tv
>socialism isnt bad
>30s germany economics was socialist

Wow, if only there were some sort of book from God Himself that could have warned us this was going to happen.

Better than being some sort of Christcuck

have you SEEN the state of Christianity lately? Catholics doing gay marriages and holy communions and kissing Mudslime feet.

Prots have always been degenerate

One of the top 3 people in history I'd kill would be Abraham if he actually existed.

>anti-degeneracy and moral codes

do you still not see how you are literally just saudi arabian conservative muslims spewing your stupid "MUH RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALIST MORAL CODE FUCK DEGENERACY, WOMEN ARE WHORES" garbage?

Would you kindly fuck off with your Christianity and other variations of middle-eastern bullshit stories.

were the pagans less degenerate? they were entirely at mercy to the civilisation cycle, christianity has been subverted

All the people telling me christianity isn't the solution are missing the point. Even then atheism has been much worse for us.

At least the pagans were uniquely European culture, not some immigrant Jew Middle Eastern religion that preaches to love your fucking enemy.

The cunt prefers muslims / any religious person to atheists or agnostics. His just a contrarian.

Bro, my priest talks about honoring the military and protecting our own every week. Do you even worship bro?

Yeah and he probably allowed niggers and faggots in his Church too.

Christianity isn't compatible with white ethnostates.

Its always the Christcucks inviting in more rapefugees and shit

>Chimpouts, mudslimes, and roasties are symptoms of the actual problems not the problems themselves.
Yes, the real problems is Jews

>The cunt prefers muslims / any religious person to atheists or agnostics.
So does anyone with a brain. Atheists are the lowest form of humans

Thanks for the (You) I havent had one all day

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np have another

I am not even an Atheist

Christianity is just a pussies religion, and isn't going to save the West.

>Christians a moral people

Nope. Fuck off, Christcuck.

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Socialism is bad.

National Socialism with a white or east asian race is perfect.

Hitler actually thought that Islam would have been the religion to better strengthen Europe because it is more hostile and strict. (obviously he meant the white people to be Muslim not importing Mudshits- just like how importing black and arab mudshits is still pretty bad).

The only Christianity that isn't cucked beyond belief is Orthodox, because they don't listen to that Jew sleeper agent- the Pope. And Jesus' teachings are retarded
>If someone hurts you, let them continue, don't fight back!
At least the Old Testament is "eye for an eye", which is much much better.

And don't be fooled OP, it is not Atheism or lack of faith that caused the symptoms you mentioned- it is the Marxist, socialist cancer that is plaguing us. All this nu-male and third wave feminism the cause. Christianity offers no solution to this.

Sidenote: met Peter Dawkins at Uni, most of the crowd just virtue signaled during the whole debate and only I supported him. I swear, debates in front of audiences are bad ideas- no matter how logical you are, the winner is whoever gets more cheers- stupid ass idea.

>anti-x is the same as x
There is a reason why Muslims live in stone age conditions. Obviously they take that shit way to far, to the point of severe oppression. Europeans can revere beauty and despise pornography at the same time. Pornography does not equal freedom. It is the lowest form of control, and appeals to man's worst instincts. On the other hand, holding beauty as a feminine ideal raises up our societies.

The reason Muslims seem strong is because they still live in an honor bound society. At the time the west had become a dignity oriented society. That is no longer the case because we are now becoming a victim based society. Eye for an eye is a barbaric system that leads to shit like clan feuds.

"socialism" in a racially homogenous white society that shames female promiscuity and has a strong sense of family unit, honor and a large amount of manufacturing and distribution jobs =/= socialism in a millennial degenerate society where everything is sold by amazon via china.

Perhaps "eye for an eye" is not so eloquent, but defending yourself and asserting that you are not a pushover IS importand. The whole "turn the other cheek" is the reason we are so fucking cucked. We get bombed by Muslims... "well we must show love!". It's retarded.
>At the time the west had become a dignity oriented society
> we are now becoming a victim based society
This is very correct. Being a victim is now more desirable than being dignified and trying to be successful. You get way more respect now for being a "poor oppressed victim".

Pathetic really.

Although- I do think honor bound societies can work. Look at ancient Japan. It just does not work with Islamic shitskins who start wars over cartoons. I'm talking on a more one on one level, getting revenge and restoring honor from those who have hurt you. Not country scale revenge- that's stupid. Countries, like you say, should act out of dignity. They should defend themselves, but not seek to endlessly settle pointless grudges.

But "turn the other cheek"? This works on no levels. It just invites people to take advantage of you.

Hope we can soon end this meme that Northerners were some kind of brutal savages and they became ''humane'' when they brought Christianity?

Return to your roots indeed. If you are American, research where your ancestors came from and start reading. They might sound more relatable than the stories featured in the sandpeople religions.

The point of that parable was NOT to be a cucked pacifist, it was to not be a bloodthirsty tyrant who goes after anyone who superficially attacks you because that fucks up society.
Jesus physically attacked the usury loving shekelbergs who fucked up society.
Jesus specifically rallied against both hypocrisy and degeneracy.

The Muslims are hypocritical and bloodthirsty.
The Jews (and most of modern atheist west) are degenerate and usurious.

Yeah okay. There's not much we can do about it now.

>Catholics doing gay marriages
lol sure

turn the other cheek is about SELF RESTRAINT and avoiding becoming vengeance driven.
You have to take it in the context of the people of his time rather than a numale pacifict stoner revisionism, the new testament is not a retcon of the old testament but a clarification of the subtleties.

>The Muslims are hypocritical and bloodthirsty.
Agreed
>The Jews (and most of modern atheist west) are degenerate and usurious.
Agreed (but not all Atheists though, I am Atheist and I hate the fedora cunts ruining what it means, makes me look bad)
>The point of that parable was NOT to be a cucked pacifist, it was to not be a bloodthirsty tyrant who goes after anyone who superficially attacks you because that fucks up society.
I get this. But unfortunately my man, many people take it very literally and it makes them apologetic doormats. Perhaps it was just translated really badly from Hebrew. I like the message as it is meant to be interpreted, but alas people think it means be a complete cuck and as the Pope did- kiss the feet of Mudshits who want to kill you.

As I say- the Orthodox Church is best. Even as an Atheist I still find great value in many Bible teachings, I just don't believe that God is real or Jesus was anything but a smart and moral man.

As I say, I get this
see But unfortunately the pacifist cucklords have taken it as advise to be completely submissive pieces of shit

I agree. Especially on the Orthodox church and bible teachings. I just look at that weird little book as just messages of how to act and idealized past events, poured through the speech of a storyteller. A good story is easier to remember than simple moral messages, and can drive home the point moreso especially when enacted in theatre, or around the metaphorical campfire.

>a German wanted to turn Europe Islamic

what a fucking surprise.

I agree in general. The difference between an honor bound society and a dignity society is that in the latter we all agree to defer to a neutral third party to resolve disputes. That means it is not a matter of "I must maintain my reputation" but instead it should be "the law has been violated". The problem is when the system becomes corrupted and you get shit like "offense is taken not given". That is when becoming a victim gives you power, which has given us a sick a twisted society where the weak dominate the strong.

Dumb fedoras, Christianity is literally derived from Greek philosophy. Socrates was the first to lay down his life without resistance and subject himself to the rule of law, and Plato argued that it is best to respond to violence with nonviolence even before Jesus. Christianity is inextricably linked to European development and philosophy.

We need a balance. Not being blinded constantly by petty revenge, not overreacting at misconduct, but also not allowing idiots and scum to treat our land like a fucking toilet.

>Honor yourself with truth and fairness
Why is it using American spelling? And "with"? Shouldn't it be, "by truth and fairness"? Tripe.

Christianity was the multicultural globalist degeneracy of ancient Rome.

Like then, the problem now is subversive Jews pushing it.

Like then, what will come out of it is a hybrid of two systems which the Jews envision will be Utopian, philosemitic and Zionist, but will backlash and become anti-Semitic, which will lead to "persecution" that will serve as an excuse for more Jewing.

Religion gave men the excuse to control female hypergamy and keep them under the male thumb(where thy must be for civilization to work).

Paganism or whatever is fine as long as female nature is controlled

Well... I take it what you are referring to "scum" are actually foreign invaders? They are unwelcome and hostile people, so no restraint is needed. If you are referring to degenerates, they really do need to be shamed, perhaps even made an example of. But first, we need to take back our governments, because they no longer represent the interests of the people.

Paganism doesn't really control female nature. There's a reason most of northern Europe was shit before Christianity.

>I take it what you are referring to "scum" are actually foreign invaders?
Well I was referring to the current wave of third world migration to white countries, and their bringing of violent ideologies like Islam. So you are correct, no restraint is needed, they need to be eradicated.

And yes, criminal behavior should be made. example of. I personally want the stocks back. People that do things like vandalism or petty theft can have a day in the stocks, getting rotten fruit thrown at them. It is not overreacting or violent like Arabs cutting off hands, it is humiliating to stop the cunts acting cunty again.

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Marxism killed Christianity - not WW1 / WW2.

Why would two world wars suddenly kill Christianity and not Islam?

Marxism in Russia and Europe created the influx in degeneracy. That's not to say there wasn't a different form of degeneracy before that.

Christianity was a part of Europe since Rome. What roots are you looking to return to americuck

Christianity was the downfall of Rome

This
Karl Marx is the one who started this slippery slope of shit