Followers of fascism are by definition; submissives

>go back to plebbit

You were rekked in the bread I linked. Stay mad faggot.

>I jus wanna be free guize

You'll grow up.

>another non-refutation

I see you posted an argument but then i looked at your flag.

Hahaha tough, better luck next tiome m8. She'll be rioght m8 hahaha

>this thread
>full of non arguments

>You have no argument.

This. This thread is literally an ancap meme.

>Everything I don't like is bad.
Wow, compelling argument dipshit

>Little is known about the Etruscans, but a few artifacts have been found showing a thin bundle of rods surrounding a two-headed axe.[2] Fasces symbolism might be derived via the Etruscans from the eastern Mediterranean, with the labrys, the Anatolian, and Minoan double-headed axe, later incorporated into the praetorial fasces. There is little archaeological evidence.[3]
By the time of the Roman Republic, the fasces had developed into a thicker bundle of birch rods, sometimes surrounding a single-headed axe and tied together with a red leather ribbon into a cylinder. On certain special occasions, the fasces might be decorated with a laurel wreath.
The symbolism of the fasces suggested strength through unity (see Unity makes strength); a single rod is easily broken, while the bundle is very difficult to break. This symbolism occurs in Aesop's fable The Old Man and his Sons. A similar story is told about the Bulgar Khan Kubrat, giving rise to the Bulgarian National motto "Union gives strength" (Cъeдинeниeтo пpaви cилaтa). The axe represented the power over life or death through the death penalty, although no Roman magistrate could summarily execute a Roman citizen after passage of the laws of the twelve tables.[4] Bundled birch twigs symbolise corporal punishment (see birching).

>Ideology based on the concepts of self-improvement at an individual and national level, of corporatist social organization (helping your neighbour and vice versa), realizing you are stronger as a group and directly facing challengers, contributing and pulling your weight, and accepting legitimate authority since it's in the best interest of yourself and your future descendants
>"hurr durr ths is submissive why dont u jus be a strong capitalist who dont need no morals and just like fuck a dude, dude, weed 420 LOL individualism is assertive and not at all pointles"

Australia strikes again

U seem agry

>you seem angry

Fascism removes the excess, pussy. Im trying to have a better life, not being surrounded by sandniggers and apes.

Your 'eternal freedom' is nothing but Sodom and Gamorrah.

Repent, and join.

Not an argument

When are you faggots going to make an argument? This is just shameful.
>inb4 hurr proxyfag!

>Fascism is nihilistic to individual authority

individualism is the ideology of nihlism mate

>A human should be a human beyond all states

implying the human being is not a collectivist animal defined and made secure by a group he/she can call his tribe/home. liberalism debunked

u confuse negative freedom with strength of will

bootlickers are a bunch of closet faggots

>teamwork equates to submission
no lol
No arguments in sight.
>hence
post hoc ergo propter hoc
Your inferential statement is flawed in that it has no logical flow.
Also you haven't stated any definitions.

Fascism is high quality teamwork on a national scale.

Weak individuals?
What makes the fascistic individuals weak?
You say fascism poses a lie, no, no it doesn't.
you didn't even state the lie....

How is being apart of a team being submissive or usurping the self?
You make a lot of claims.

I'm an anarcho-fascist, I'm not submitting to anyone!

I don't agree with fascism yet I'm here all the same. Why are SJW so fascist for instance? While outwardly they claim to want personal freedoms they're really more interested in authoritarian regulation of speech and behavior. What's the difference between a strong-man leader and a set of principles that instructs SJW that the ends justify the means as they clearly believe? Moreover, they're constantly pushing for centralized control, so much so I honestly believe that SJW are themselves fascist. What's the difference between the word of a strongman and a set of principles so static and unforgiving that SJW don't even care what people's intentions are and only what they perceive to be true?

Fucking SJW are just the Kazaa Lite version of fascism. I know what you're gonna say "u missed my subtle pro hilldog anti trump thread my dude", no, I know. I was a democrat not even two or three years ago, I would probably even vote for Hillary if I weren't 100% sure she's going to view SJW as a constituency and try to "save the world" with them, little does she know they will never, ever be happy until the "oppressed" have their SUPER JUST REVENGE on the "oppressors" - that is to say white people, who they want pushed off of the world stage, pushed out of work and pushed into slums. They'll never stop until we "get a taste of our own medicine" because they're literally fascist fanatics.

Sorry that the first woman presidential hopeful is tainted beyond use, I guess?

The metaphor is about the group ultimately being greater and stronger than the individual. A single stick is significantly weaker than the entire bundle.

Being a part of a greater collective and being an individual isn't mutually exclusive. The greatest projects and feats undertaken by mankind were done at the hands of groups. A single man did not go to the moon. A single man did not split the atom.

You equate 'submission to the collective' to weakness on the basis that you want it to be. Explain your reasoning behind this conclusion.

but fascists are also highly susceptible to the exact type of self deception that would make it impossible for them to be self aware of of this. Your intellect has no power here.

>Why are SJW so fascist for instance?

In all honesty this is EXACTLY what the "Cultural Marxists" wrote about.

>What's the difference between a strong-man leader and a set of principles that instructs SJW that the ends justify the means as they clearly believe?

As in they (The Frankfurt School) analyzed this type of question.

>Muh birch rods

Saying "the group being strong makes me strong" is still not an argument; as you know full well that means you're signing YOUR will; YOUR intentions; YOUR control; YOUR sovereignty; YOUR body over to the group.

You're making my point; fascists are by definition submissive so submissive that they're fanatical about how much they're willing to give up.

>too young to understand the importance of communal cohesion

Like I said before, you will grow up m8.

Sorry Cred Forums I've actually read Mussolini:

>"which the individual, by self-sacrifice, the renunciation of self-interest, by death itself, can achieve that purely spiritual existence in which his value as a man consists." -Mussolini

Basically you're only a man if you're willing to sacrifice for me your guru and that even means killing yourself for me. What a swindling swami; trying to ride you like a bunch of dogs.
>"In our state the individual is not deprived of freedom. In fact, he has greater liberty than an isolated man, because the state protects him and he is part of the State. Isolated man is without defence. (E. Ludwig, Talks with Mussolini, London, Allen and Unwin, 1932, p. 129)."

Hey! Be all manly and shit; but need us to protect you too. How is your mother's teet nowadays anyways? And in exchange for this protection? GIVE UP ALL FREEDOMS (but that's True freedom™ right?)

>"Fascism trains its guns on the whole block of democratic ideologies, and rejects both their premises and their practical applications and implements."

>"above all we believe not in happiness, in salvation, in the Promised Land."

Boo hoo.

Fascists should accept and use their weakness; use it to be more sensitive in understanding themselves and others. Then they wouldn't be so submissive. They're only submissive because they don't fully understand themselves; and it freaks them out to not understand themselves.

>too young to understand the importance of communal cohesion

>"above all we believe not in happiness, in salvation, in the Promised Land."

NO HAPPINESS FOR YOU!

the point is to combine power retard, facism the basis of democracy and what gives the state authority to act

>importance of communal cohesion

"Hey look ma; I'm going to a stormfag parade to make society more communal! More cohesive!"

Because killing and threatening to kill people really helps the whole community cohesion thing.

...what a fuckwit:

>still no arguments found in this thread.

"and what gives the state authority to act"

SUBMISSIVE!!!!

>OP is too young to undertsand the importance of community cohesion
>OP just wants freedom from the man guize

Grow up cunt

here's the TRUE stages of redpill

>reverting back to plebertardianism is red pilled

You fucked up leaf.

>Saying "the group being strong makes me strong" is still not an argument; as you know full well that means you're signing YOUR will; YOUR intentions; YOUR control; YOUR sovereignty; YOUR body over to the group.

Well giving up your will, intention, control, and sovereignty are the foundations of modern government my friend. So I guess anyone that accepts government must be submissive? Under your logic ancaps must be the most brazen manly men out in the world.

>Actual men prefer, and can handle, freedom.

I just want to be a cog in a machine that's stronger than any individual free man can be.

Have fun being an alpha non-submissive male then. If everyone was like you then the life expectancy would be 20. After all, if there are no submissives co-operating together who would stop you from getting stabbed in your sleep?

>Fascism comes from the term 'fasces'
Close. Fascism actually comes from the term "feces", because fascists actually like to eat shit. The term "communism" comes from the Latin word "cum-un", which means to ingest semen.

Because protesting the acceptance of millions of uneducated highly religious refugees is such a bad thing for communal stability /s

OP is right about this. But that is not the case in all situations.

What makes people choose fascism over democracy is when they are under significant threat. When insecurity or famine are rampant people turn to these regimes in desperation. In this case I don't think its a matter of submission. Its pure panic and it makes perfect sense.

In the american case, we all know that Trumps ideas, despite being authoritarian in nature, are all bogus since hes running for President of the US where congress has a saying and theres separation of powers (which means he would never get shit done). In that case its just plain stupidity from his voters who cant see beyond his real limitations. He is indeed one hell of a salesman, I give him that.

...

This is from a screencapped reddit post on r/anarchism.

Well baited my fellow shitposter.

And ofc, I dont think the US or the EU is under a serious crysis, save perhaps France who has people dying on the streets to terrorists.

It doesnt make sense to vote for the far right in any other western nation.

This post reeks of someone with a major inferiority complex.

I; can't; understand; your; accent;

Yes, dipshit, that's exactly what we do. We submit. Not because we're cucks who love to be dominated as you're saying, but because we know that there are things in this universe which are more significant than the individual's life. If the individual dies today his nation will continue to exist. His nation's traditions, interests, culture, his nation's everything, will continue to exist. He's a mere part of something way more meaningful than himself, something that took centuries or millions of years to be built. He's a mere part of society whether he's a peasant or a multimillionaire.

The goal of Fascism is to make people achieve a spiritual life. Baboons like yourself aren't even capable of conceptualizing what a spiritual life is. I'll tell you something: when people like you die they leave absolutely nothing behind. People who live solely for themselves die with themselves. And that's your destiny, nigger. Of course you'll say you don't care, but everyone knows how miserable this makes you feel.

Keep playing around thinking you're the ubermensch thinking you're sooo independent duude, when matter of fact, what happens is that people like you are way more easily dominated than everyone else! In the end, you are the cucks. You take dicks in your ass. Cry me fucking rivers now.

>Well giving up your will, intention, control, and sovereignty are the foundations of modern government my friend.

And fascists take this to the furthest and most unreasonable extreme and are hence THE MOST submissive.

>I just want to be a cog in a machine that's stronger than any individual free man can be.

Better start bashing your head into shape if you want to be a cog.

>If the individual dies today his nation will continue to exist. His nation's traditions, interests, culture, his nation's everything, will continue to exist.

...tell me more about how Hitler and the Nazi regime are both still going....

Oh that's right; HE'S DEAD; and so were most of his forces!

>spiritual life

Yeah; like I said; fanaticism. Fanatical to submission. Like you said; desiring to give up life it's self. I bet when you listen to fascist speeches your razor blade gets moist.

>Fascists should accept and use their weakness; use it to be more sensitive in understanding themselves and others. Then they wouldn't be so submissive. They're only submissive because they don't fully understand themselves; and it freaks them out to not understand themselves.

(OP)
>Those who follow fascists are by definition followers and weaklings
>by defintion
[citation needed]

>Look up the etymology
not addressing the ideology, just the origin of the word "fascist"

>This ideology is by definition about weak people looking to give up their own power or direction
[citation needed]
I have no idea which dictionary you're using, but I've never heard it defined that way.

>Fascists are the most submissive and weak people in my opinion
>in my opinion
THERE IT IS. THE CRUCIAL PART OF THE POST.

Your post is nothing but sophistry and opinion, yet you have such a lack of self-awareness that you can accuse others of not having arguments

Dude; I've quoted Mussolini directly:

#StillNoCounterArguments

You've; made; no; arguments.

Fascism = be strong as long as it involves doing everything I tell you to. Whether that's blowing a goat or killing yourself.

which dictionary is that from?

I think libertarians and fascist should fight each other to the death to find out who is right.

And on the off chance both factions perish, me and my progressive socialist friends will be happy to take over the running of civilization.

protip: the one group who think they're above acting in their collective interest will not survive

>b-but collective interest doesn't exist

>...tell me more about how Hitler and the Nazi regime are both still going....
>Oh that's right; HE'S DEAD; and so were most of his forces!
The regime is dead, but it was the mere implementation of an idea. The idea is not dead, and the idea is what matters. Hitler and everything he created still lives. As long as there is at least ONE living being to remember him, he'll be alive. And he's more alive than almost everyone else, why? Because he committed the ultimate self-sacrifice. You should start reading Plato instead of the Ayn Rand Jewish bullshit I bet you read.

>Yeah; like I said; fanaticism. Fanatical to submission. Like you said; desiring to give up life it's self. I bet when you listen to fascist speeches your razor blade gets moist.
Niggers like you keep saying fanaticism is bad. But think about how technology and how world history got where it is. It was through sheer fanaticism, through the concept of an unstoppable pursuit of an idea. Every meaningful progress start when someone realizes their life is secondary, when they realize that their actions can be greater than themselves.

Honestly, I think you're playing devil's advocate here. I'm way too much of an optimist to think that someone is capable of being that narrow-minded and still manage to end up here. But it's possible, there's always the scum.

>me and my progressive socialist friends will be happy to take over the running of civilization.

Not if my communists are there to point out that historical materialist economic classes are more important than the social categories of identity politics!

Anarchism is when every man believes he is a king.

I think you should go be alive as Hitler; underground.

P.S I've read Plato.

Its happening whether you like it or not, because the leftists are being fascists by violating freedom of speech at both the systematic level, and as individuals on the streets, "antifascists" do nothing but try to silence their opponents with violence

All so that a bunch of savages can come and rape our women and murder us for being privileged

You fucking asked for it, dumb fucks, its coming, its only a matter of time

FASCES IS LITERALLY A BUNDLE OF STICKS A.K.A A
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HOW WILL FASCIES EVER RECOVER ROFL XDDDDDDDDDD

>Anarchism is when every man believes he is a king.

Anarchism is when every man believes he is NOT a king.

We will settle this once we convinced the fascist and libertardians to kill each other comrade.

Fuck off. Fascism and the sticks is about stronger together. One stick is easily bent and weak. A bunch of sticks (kek) is strong.

youtube.com/watch?v=cEbNOcWDO8g

>proper use of semicolons is a spook
kek

What, I should kill myself???

Wow, nice argument, nigger! You surely showed me now! Jesus Christ

And before I go I'd like to say something. I'm in the middle of the process of qualifying myself now. When I finish, if most things go exactly how I planned, I'll have a chance of seizing power in this country. Just so you can know, I'll make sure to capture and torture a lot of selfish motherfuckers like yourself. When you see them crumbling, it will be like gazing at a mirror. I guarantee.

Amen.

Here's the proof of the typical attitude of these leftest arseholes.

youtube.com/watch?v=Z5zmFV3-fAc

I love the way camera guy says nothing and just lets these fucks demonstrate what a pack of irrational. aggessive, intolerant hypocrites they are.

What does Stirner have to do with this?

Marxism is Communism is Socialism is Fascism is Nationalism is Bolshevism is Trotskyism is Leninism is Collectivism is Scientism is Islamism is Positivism is Solidarism is Constructivism is Relativism is Feminism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism is Leftism

Here is what you don't understand:

I'm not the greatest man in my nation. There are better men than me in this nation.

There is greatness in doing your part. Some men are taller, some men are weaker.

A blind cripple that works as a radio operator in the army contributes more to the society than the tall strong man who digs ditches.

Its not about being better than everyone, its about being the best you can be.

And i believe there are better men than myself who could lead my nation to greatness.

That's not even what I said though, I accused SJW of the same act, you can hardly view them as individualists when they tear each other up over the slightest misstep as if everything offensive is completely intentional. They're the most fascist people on earth currently save perhaps...north korea? whole nations are literally cutting humanities from their colleges just to not have SJW in their country causing trouble. I have never liked Poland this much before. Bush was right, we forgot about Poland.

>Look up the etymology. Fascism comes from the term 'fasces'; a bundle of sticks wrapped around (one could say in rapture to) an axe handle with a projecting axe blade.
Goy, I...

>Fascism is for submissives
No, stop

Fascism is for people who realize the majority of people are retarded and if we let them all vote then our policy will be retarded, so we should have few strong people lead us.

Wanting a strong leader is not being submissive, that is how the tribe, or pack, or country survives.

So wait, I don't understand why Lefties always call anyone who has opposing views "fascists", or is it just one of their circle jerk buzzwords that they love to use?

If you are truly in danger of dying on the streets or if you starve, shure... I see no problem going for the far right.

If not you are just saying that you prefer to relinquish you'r saying (the right to vote and free speech) in order to give someone absolute power. Once said leader establishes himself you have no way whatsoever of opposing him through legal means and he can do whatever the fuck he wants with your life.

Thats one big fucking risk and a very foolish move from your part.

You're dumb.

Imagine that either Lula or Rousseff had absolute power.

Now you should understand.

Do you fags really take everything politicians say for granted (and I mean everyone, including Trump fags)?

Yeah; most of Communism has been in fascist form; that's why there's now Democratic Socialism.

Marism is after all premised on a kind of direct democracy; "The dictatorship of the Proletariat"

Some connect him to Anarchism.

Yeah; The Frankfurt School (Cultural Marxists) analyzed how movements like the SJWs can become dangerous/fascist.

...and ring wingers call all things left of themselves COMMUNISM! That's how the game is played yet let unresolved.

*left unresolved

Both Lula and Rousseff are Marxists. They're internationalists. Necessarily, their interests do NOT align with the interests of the nation. The Fascists' interests always align completely with the nation's interests, by default. It's a requirement. You cannot be a Fascist without being TOTALLY nationalist. Both concepts are bounded to each other.

You might say some shit like "b-but w-what would assure that he's really a n-nationalist", but then you would be talking about dictators and dictatorships, and that can assume many forms. When you talk about Fascism specifically you talk about fanaticism for one's country and thus true sincerity.

long but informative, but it explains a lot

forgot link

youtube.com/watch?v=sDGWr8kMBk8

Communist propaganda, fascists are active participants and it obviously requires a lot of courage. To give generously is not to be taken from. To work together for a common benefit is not to submit.

sage propaganda

Well said

>Fascism is nihilistic to individual authority and hence is nothing but a fragile empty shell

Nearly cried there OP

Yeah it is.

twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/265895292191248385?lang=en

TPP is still horrible, Hillary did in fact call it a gold standard in her own book. Voting Trump anyway, one person can't decide world environmental policy but he sure as hell can block a "deal" that would totally fuck us. Making good deals that benefit him is what The Donald does. We must harness The Donald and fly with him to the economic success that allows difficult problems to be faced with confidence instead of half-measures.

You're a brilliant shitposter, I'll give you that. Your Australia power is strong. I cannot even feel angry. A Wain cat, even, such taste.

>babbys first freud

Also it occurs to me I merged what would be two posts in two separate threads into one. Scots might be idiots but their whiskey makes you haaaaaappy.

Fascism is just a form politics can manifest in. All ideologies can be prone to fascism and fascist thinking.

According to your definition it's possible to be a fascist without being nationalist.
Do you realize how stupid you are nigger?
What you're thinking about is authoritarianism, and Fascism is not just authoritarianism.
Common mistake among communism scum and Illiterate niggers.

Fascism is for people who don't realise that literally everyone has flaws, and that giving absolute power to a single person/group of people is retarded.

>Fascism is for people who don't realise that literally everyone has flaws

Its better to sanction the people who act on their flaws than to let them run free in pursuit of degeneracy. Its what civilizations are.

You fucking retarded. Power should be always given to the most capable, it shouldn't be diffused among people who are more or less capable or not capable at all.

If all men have flaws, power should belong only to the least flawed man.

And no, fucking retarded, Fascist leaders never assume they're perfect, they always have a shit ton of people to assist them. Get the fuck out of this board.