In the closing moments of the debate, Trump revealed it by basically saying "I refuse to get down into the mud with you here" when she pulled the Miss Universe shit.
Now this of course was bullshit. What he was doing was setting up the strategy for the following debates.
In the opening of the next debate he will say "You were the one who went dirty in the 1st debate, not me. Now i'm going to react in kind and we'll play your game.Gloves are off."
The public will see it ths way too and they will "allow" Trump to take the gloves off (without all the muhsoggyknees bullshit). Trump framed it as "she started it" right at the end.
This will allow Trump to bring out the big guns full force - Benghazi, emails, Monica, Clinton Foundation. Mark my words, he'll go absolutely apeshit in the next 2 debates and the public will "allow" it.
tl:dr Trump needed permission from the viewing public to take the gloves off (next time) and by holding his fire right at the end, he got it.
I hope you're right, because Trump pulled way too many punches for my liking.
I was expecting him to go hard, but he went very soft on Hillary.
Half the country wants to see Hillary get buttfucked into oblivion.
Easton Bell
I agree. I actually think he's very smart, and has reasons for what he does. I think that he held back a lot and didn't show his power level at the first debate for reasons. He held back so much I even thought, wtf, is he a plant for hill? He knows he has so much more ammunition.
Justin Baker
>this is what trumpcucks believe
Chase Parker
Straight down to business. Most of you forget, that there will be another debate on October 9th. Trump is playing 5D quantum computer chess. He comes with peace, he comes with knowledge, not the gun. And he folded her, fool. I told ya
Jackson Phillips
I think he wants to BTFO her during the last debate so its fresh in the memory of everyone who votes
Leo Miller
They hit him with everything they have on him. He used next to nothing.
Luis Rivera
I think his advisors are fucking him.
They're telling him to appear more moderate.
The American people don't want that.
Trump became wildly popular because he was distinctly right-of-center.
Now, all these fuckheads are telling him to cool it and "act presidential."
What they don't understand is that we've had weak leaders for so long that "acting presidential" is akin to being a gigantic uncontroversial pussy.
I want Trump to be Trump, not some marionette controlled by limpdick blueblood strategists.
He can't win by appearing moderate, and I hope he realizes that.
Andrew Kelly
the hammer was cocked, and I was waiting for Trump to drop it, and it never came... Hopefully the first exchange was a feeler to see just how bad Hillary was gonna go, and the parting shot was the deal sealer... Hillary is gonna get proper FUCKE-D
Alexander White
You can't go full KKKramer on the first debate, it will scare off all the independents from watching the next 2.
He was forced to leash himself and take a bunch of punches and they wasted most of their ammo with minimal damage.
Ayden Butler
CTR confirmed for scared.
Alexander Bailey
Do you people actually believe Trump's 9D chess nonsense?
If he does go full retard during the next debate, people will see it for what it ACTUALLY is: a dude with very poor impulse control.
Jack Carter
would CTR post this?
I'm for Trump over Hillary but OP is delusional
Adam Stewart
Well said senpai. I would go further. He is also pacing himself. If he used all of her scandals debate #1 he would have no more ammo for future debates and additionally people would forget about it after a week. HRC probably used all her ammo like a rookie. All she can do now is repeat what was said last debate. Trump still has a full quiver of flaming arrows that will burn the witch.
I have a theory he also intentionally lied and acted rambunctious for the first debate. The second and third he will be more presidential and appear to show great improvements.
Trump is a 12D tertris grandmaster
Noah White
>Trump get destroyed because he wasted his time sperging over non-issues > it was a well elaborated ruse by Trump
You can't be this delusional
Michael Wilson
>dragging Hillary's shit to light is "going full retard"
Shill harder
Adrian Hernandez
Trump literally wrote a book called 'the art of the comeback'. His strategy all along has been to craft an obvious narrative then play it out.
Blake Carter
>You can't go full KKKramer on the first debate,
I disagree.
If you don't attack first and with violence, then you lose the initiative.
Hillary understood this and went hard on Trump, who remained on the defensive for the entirety of the debate.
Trump must now go even harder during the second debate to make up for the ground that he lost.
Like I mentioned earlier, half the country wants to see Hillary get eviscerated on stage.
If Trump doesn't deliver that and more during the next debate, then he can't win.
Aiden Cooper
wie is deze zaad emmer, vriend?
Ethan King
>dude with very poor impulse control Trump is brooding, sniffing, and tired right now because he put a chastity belt on his power level. Once that shit comes off he'll bend that bitch over and grudge fuck her like Goku in harambee form.
As he's whiping the dust of his massive schlong the moderator will suspend the election and crown him Mr. Universe for All Time.
Parker Bailey
I don't see why people think the first debate was anything more than their opening arguments.
It's simple plot structure.. why would the climax come in the first act? Shit's stupid.
Owen Jackson
I'm not the retard who believes their candidate actually got blown the fuck out in the first debate as a campaign strategy. Shill or not, you're objectively retarded if you believe this.
Jack Baker
>Do you people actually believe Trump's 9D chess nonsense? Yes youtu.be/OOmfb4mBX24
He operates on another level.
Parker Rogers
Shut the fuck up. You won't utter such drivel if Trump had won. Pathetic
Ryder Wilson
the sniffles were faked, in the sense that he's not sick, he may have used a nasal decongestant or something similar to produce a runny nose.
why? get everyone OMG HE HAS SNIFFLES!!! to contrast with hillary literally becoming a zombie and being dragged into a van because she's deathly ill and pumped full of drugs to stand up for 90 mins
i think Cred Forums is just overrun with shills. i don't see how anyone who has followed trump's campaign this year can suddenly lose faith in his genius. everything trump does is intentional and well-planned. the man is a mastermind.
Jaxon Collins
>He can't win by appearing moderate
He was down on the polls massively until he started using teleprompters, prepared speeches and avoided headline grabbing statements that he did during the primaries
His base support (aka (You), the tens of millions and Cred Forums in general) do not or should not care or mind if he acts like a phony presidential messenger but the ones on the center and center-left do
Not even his own campaign manager who is a former Cruz shill bitch could turn him into a plastic, disingenuous typical politician. Donald will always be Donald but he won't win by just sperging out and going full retard because that would be playing right into the Dems' card
Zachary Bennett
@90874713
nice try, shill
Ayden Rodriguez
>Trump became wildly popular because he was distinctly right-of-center.
thats not why, he became popular because he was angry and btfo the corrupt politician hacks
Ayden Barnes
He was already painted by the media as the "big bad guy", "a clown" etc
He let her cast the first stone so he can throw a meteor next time. The same as he did in the primaries where he never attacked first.
Cooper Cooper
Oh I'll admit that he's very talented at gaming the media. That doesn't equate to him being a genius political operative though.
Elijah Reyes
Never forget, the first debate is SUPPOSED to be the first contact the public has with both candidates.
Supposedly, first impressions must be set in the first one and both candidates should outline their overall standpoints and policies, ie repeat again what they've been saying all along.
That's why it was so boring and felt so artificial on Trumps part (not even gonna acknowledge robot illary's part)
Jeremiah Garcia
It was an even debate, even though it was a 2v1 against Trump.
Adrian Ramirez
He needs to call out the media on their bias too, and point out that they are serving corporatist and globalist interests.
Dominic Ramirez
you can tell Hillary was using all of her willpower to contain her anger (and Parkinson's)
Joseph Sanders
>I don't see why people think the first debate was anything more than their opening arguments.
it's not about "arguments"
that's not the problem Trump had in debate 1
the problem he had was being allowed to BTFO of Hillary without appearing muhsoggyknee to the public
Trump has now framed things in order to get on with the BTFOing from now on
Ian Bell
>trump gets destroyed
I think you are the delusional one.
Liam Howard
>Trump literally wrote a book ..literally? no shit. Bit fucking odd, considering hes (literally) incapable of reading one, mind.
Aiden Watson
get back on ur meds cause your deluded. Trump was floundering around on stage just sucking in air. Trump badly handled the debate. Even watching the Republican debates anyone could see they did not want the presidency but just to beat their chests and sing about world war 3 while on the democrats side it was full of passive aggression. I expected better from you.
Lincoln Smith
dubs of truth
if trump went attack dog from the getgo hed be framed as an unforgiveable asshole
Noah Stewart
I want to believe.
Jaxon Bell
Or he just didn't prepare for the first debate and/or figured Hillary would show up coughing or something.
Jaxon Jenkins
He's up against someone who isn't a fucking tard for the first time. >Push narrative that Hillary has seizures. >Sniffle and drink water like you have the flu during the debate while she doesn't even blink. >Throw a shitfit as your closing argument.
Fucking 4D competitive vaping.
Blake Evans
Yes exactly. His closing statment was basically "ok you threw the pot of piss first, next time i'm bringing out the bucked of shite".
You see Hillary played extremely dirty by using the Miss Universe closing statment that way. Everyone knows the closing statment is supposed to be your "vision" statement and there is little time left to reply for the opponent.
It was dirty as fuck and it played into Trump's hands.
Ayden Bell
anyone going to watch VP Debate?
>cricket sounds
Matthew Foster
Please stop being so fucking delusional. The higher hopes you have, the worse you will feel when he disappoints you again.
Cooper Powell
Yet this will never happen lmao. He will continue to not do debate prep and he'll continue to ramble like an idiot. Looked like a total retard in front of 80 million people.
Jayden Bennett
...
Easton James
>bucked of shite
*bucket
Angel Reyes
CTR shill
Noah Russell
jesus christ, if you say anything bad about Trump you're automatically CTR, shill
Jason Torres
Trump got his limit break all charged up for the next debate from the chip damage Hillary managed to get on him.
Nicholas Nelson
serbia LOL
Daniel Nelson
>doesn't back up claims >1 post by this ID
Bentley Morgan
All the Ms. Universe thing did was cause Manufactured Controversy of the Week.
Ethan Long
How does this disprove Trump being a retard? No one is arguing Hillary's not a blatant criminal and sack of shit. But arguing Trump's capable of not acting like a nigger is beyond delusional.
Ian Perez
>Benghazi There is no there there
>emails He did and it's already pretty public
>Monica Trump,the guy with three wives, is in no position to throw stones
>Clinton Foundation
A+ platinum rated charity that does good around the world vs Trump foundation which is a total fraud
Ryan Foster
>0.02 shekels have been deposited into your account
Cameron Bennett
yeah 1 post because I just entered the thread, yea Hillary pays me to shitpost from Serbia
Sebastian Thomas
KellyAnne is gutter trash from Camden, NJ. A fucking townie.
Evan Thomas
why is bernie steaming mad in this picture
Liam Sanchez
Pretty much. A lot of people here have cognitive problems.
Levi Bailey
A point needs to be made.
Hillary Clinton is a lot of things, but stupid isn't one of them. If the dumb fucks of Cred Forums can figure this out as a "strategy", then so can she and her team.
So my question is: if that really was the plan, do you honestly think that Hillary does not have one of her own to counter it?
Isaiah Scott
But he won.
Liam Bell
Trump didn't win, the internet polls lie because Cred Forums hacked them.
Brandon Butler
It was when Hillary was accepting the nomination
Cooper Bell
Why bother winnIng first debate? Seriosly, clinton blew her entire load that night, trumo still as all the ammo. Voters have short memories and killing the third is much more important
Jason Davis
www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/502145/
I'll just leave this link here.
Zachary Wilson
>trumptard
MOD DICTATES THE COURSE OF DEBATE. TRUMP WILL BE SILENCED.
Yeah man no buddy on Cred Forums knows what a VPN is.
Jace Walker
>Trump needed permission
C-C-C-UCK
True alphas don't ask for permission. That's what was so great about Trump in the first place.
Owen Howard
>trumptards think benghazi and Lewinski are 'big guns' They're not guns at all. >benghazi She was never found at any actual fault for Benghazi despite exhaustive inquiry. Everyone outside the republican base is sick of hearing about Benghazi and considers it another ridiculous conspiracy theory. >Lewinski What is this meme? How on earth is he going to attack Clinton for being cheated on by her husband without it blowing up in his face?
Trump should know perfectly well a dialogue about marital infidelity leads to talk about his own infidelity. The man married his mistress. "you cheated on your wife" is a lot more damaging than "your husband cheated on you". You want to lose what little of the female vote you still have? Go for it. Trump will keep insinuating about lewinski because thats as far as he can take it. He can't afford a real conversation about it, Hillary would take him to the cleaners.
If anyone is showing restraint on the subject its Hillary.
Sebastian Ortiz
It's from Hillary's DNC acceptance speech.
Jordan Gray
A pretty clear majority of Americans disagree with you.
Luke Sanchez
>lying under oath? lol what about the three wives trump xdddd stop being a retard
Samuel Flores
Hillary won't know what hit her
Landon Cox
This isn't even his final form.
Chase Allen
Oh shut the fuck up. Trump is far from a great person, but he's obviously not retarded. You can't get as far as he has without having some sort of smarts about you. Yeah you'll say he had it all handed to him, but that's a load of shit.
Please stop your brain from going
someone disagrees with me ==> retarded.
David Ortiz
I agree. it is basic character roleplay: if the polite, educated one starts throwing shit, then the bad guy can do two things: -leave her alone in the mud -unleash a violent reaction let'see what happens
Jackson Edwards
Hes not mad, he was watching his brother dedicate his vote to their dead parents.
Brody James
>again.
I missed the first time it happened, do you have a link?
>Flag
Oh, never mind I didn't know you were just a faggot.
Blake Bennett
What possible counter could she have to him blowing her up? I don't disagree with you, but I don't know what she can do, she blew her load, the msm and ctr have been digging into trump all campaign and slinging everything they have on him instantly, I don't know what she could do to hit him now.
Oliver Torres
>The same as he did in the primaries where he never attacked first.
Xavier Morgan
>Cred Forums hacked them. Is there anything this man can't do? Truly the most unpredictable computer genius of our times.
Joseph Flores
This.
Let's be real here: there will be little to no OC for the remainder of the election. Most people who are voting already made up their minds anyway.
Brody Wood
You guys are easy to spot. Remember, it's a losing battle.
Jason Jackson
>false flag is obvious
Julian Robinson
Jordyn Jones
Levi Ortiz
Kys
Dylan Harris
>wanting Trump to go harder makes me a shill
Don't be a nigger.
I voted for Trump in the primaries because I wanted him to buttfuck Hillary, not be the "everyman" pussy candidate.
He can't afford to pull punches anymore, because the entire fucking world is waiting for him to slay Hillary.
Blake Wright
you're going to see more "Godzilla" brainstormed "linguistic killshots" from Hillary. This election is about persuasion, not policy. She used a lot of them in the first debate. One must assume they'll have more. Trust me, she's not thinking them up, Godzilla is; don't give her the credit. In Trump's case, he IS the one coming up with them, but he held back a lot in the first debate.
Basically it's all about persuading the voters to feel one way or another, that's why the debate ended in such a shitty way, to create the impression that she won, when for the majority of it Trump was dominating. It's all about impressions, feels, persuasion tactics.
Hillary did all the smiles and shit to become the new smugpepe.jpg candidate and channel meme energy, hence the tidal wave of shills as soon as it ended.
Jace Murphy
>What possible counter could she have to him blowing her up?
Not rising to his bait. Focusing on the questions asked by the moderator and giving clear and concise answers. Essentially ignoring him rather than engaging him; responding to him only in a clinical rather than a personal way and only in ways relevant to the questions asked by the moderator. We've seen how easily Trump can get riled up, and nothing would rile him up more than getting ignored.
Instead of answering questions submitted by the moderator he'll he rambling at her. Instead of sticking to a single narrative point he'll go off on tangents like he has. And instead of appearing calm and having grace under fire, he'll resemble one of those Deep South fire and brimstone evangelists. He'll look like an orange-faced psychopath, which is good since that what he is, while Hillary will look calm, collected, in-control, and most importantly of all, Presidential.
Carson Young
Does Cred Forums actually believe the public will side with Trump when he starts to go on about how Bill fucks other women?
This jew says Trump won the debate. No idea what's going on.
Camden Morris
He's ducking and weaving, waiting for his chance to land a knock-out blow, as he has done countless times before, and you're on the sidelines telling him to throw his strategy away, and rush Hillary whilst windmilling his arms. Have a little faith
Ethan Cox
I love zach and cory
Sebastian Peterson
>Camden, NJ
Daniel Anderson
It's not about the adulteries, it's about the assaults.
Andrew Hughes
I mean I'm not saying she's going to be totally vulnerable but most of her trump jabs have been spent, they'll be stale, trump is hitting her with fresh ammo while she has her campaign try to rewrite her already spoken attacks to try and sound fresh but continue to come off as ungenuine.
Henry Adams
Earth to alt right pantshitters: the entire country is pulling out its dick to take a piss. We are going to soak you and King Babydick come November.
Before that happens, you've got one shot at preserving a shred of self-awareness if you will fucking own it.
Admit he fucked up.
Admit he lost.
Admit #shewon.
Then admit your own stupidity for blindly following a racist, a maniac, a grossly unqualified pig with a mop on his head. Admit you're fucking sorry to all the Muslims, Mexicans, and black people he's smeared over nothing. Admit you might be wrong about everything you know, and that Drumpf's 10,000 scandals are a fucking mountain to Hillary's 10 anthills (all concocted by the bitter, desperate right).
She isn't a criminal. He is.
She didn't stiff thousands of honest workers. He did.
She didn't promise millions of racists the fucking moon, without even understanding what it is.
He. Fucking. Did.
I get it. Most of you have crippling social anxiety, It's easy for you to sit at home jerking your babydicks to the days when white men had the world on cruise control.
You don't have to go down with the ship. You don't have to be in the pit with King Babydick while millions piss on his fat, racist wrinkled face. Now is the time to step away, give up, and admit you have some serious fucking problems that aren't the fault of Muslims, women, or brown people.
Your choices are simple: vote for her, or stay the fuck home. #Shewon, she's going to win, and there is literally NOTHING you can do about it but accept the ball crushing inevitability of Madam President.
Julian Allen
1st debate = be nice 2nd debate =bloodbath 3rd debate = secure the presidency
Gabriel Baker
Trump won the debate Trump did his job, did it well and is going to win the election.
He dominated the first 40 minutes and held his ground for the rest, that being said, he did hold back on things he definitely could have hit her with. But after a year of being called a maniac literallyhitler sexist misogynist who will nuke everyone that was the smartest thing he could do. He proved he had restraint, he didn't fall for the bait.
Hillary looked downright creepy to anyone who isn't a blue haired SJW or a wetback, and her crazy smiling and smirking did her no favours with normal people. She tried to use a bootleg version of Trump's way of labeling people (think lyin Ted) with her whole trumped up trickle down shit and she came off as out of touch.
Now for what matters, American politics is about fighting over a percentage of people who probably just tuned into this as their first impression of both candidates besides a clip here or there on normiebook. And what they saw was trump actually being presidential. He stood there and had a debate instead of gassing every beaner/Muslim in the room and depending on where they live he talked about getting them a decent job.
Hillary's attacks were shit and everyone knows it, nobody gives a fuck about tax returns or Rosie O'Donnell.
Trump is Obama '08 running on change. And he will win, because it's a lot easier to motivate people to change something than to grudging try to protect the status quo. We have all the excitement on our side just look at the post debate polls, nobody is excited for Hillary she is just the not trump candidate, and as much as people hate her im willing to bet a whole lot of people vote 3rd party out of spite.
TLDR trump will win, and you better be ready shills
Brandon Wood
That is a lot of effort for only 5 cents. Good on you, though.
Cameron Adams
>90879783 I hope your mother is gangraped by a pack of pozzed niggers and you're forced to eat the aids-ridden creampie.
Austin White
He is saving bullets, that's it i hope.
Anthony Allen
A couple questions:
Which of the three debates gets the most viewership, traditionally?
Has the VP debate ever mattered?
Jeremiah Cox
Questionable stories at best, I'm sure those will pull those moderate yet-to-decide voters over and totally not alienate them with their conspiracy flair.
Caleb Wright
Was thinking the same. Checked.
Sebastian Wood
The debates are a 3 act play. The 2nd act is conflict.
Mason Hernandez
>vote for him, or stay the fuck home FTFY
Camden Young
he was just testing the waters. he hasnt even started on hillary yet. when he does start, i think we will know
Joseph Wilson
No the VP debate has never and will never matter, although Paul Ryan did come across as an extremely shitty bag of shit. Pence won't though, he and Kaine are just generic politicians
Jaxon Walker
huh? What up? But thanks for the you
Ayden Davis
Hillary dropped all her nukes on trump during the first debate
Shes over
Wyatt Adams
trump has no strategy he simply spouts memes
Hudson Turner
What did she mean by this?
Ryder Jackson
She was daydreaming about nuking the Ruskies
Ian Sullivan
rope a dope.
Colton Nguyen
CNN and Hillshill are not the majority of Americans. She had nothing new, Trump did.
Jacob Fisher
you mean
Carter Martin
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA OH WOW CTR SHILLS BTFO
Jaxon Wright
>HE WAS JUST PRETENDING! IT'S ALL PART OF THE PLAN!
The sheer desperation you guys show as you try and explain away him getting shat on is truly something to behold.
Angel Campbell
No, I'm not giving that faggot (You)'s... That's how they get paid
Carter Miller
There's a lot of smart creative people on Cred Forums. There are also stupid people who can't follow 4d chess. It's amazing,Trump doesn't hide his strategy but people still can't see what he's doing.
Liam Brown
God, whenever I see this pic of Bernie I want to laugh and cry at the same time.
Eli Ramirez
Or because he was more civil and less aggressive he proved that he's capable of restraining himself, an ability that the POTUS ultimately needs.
Jacob Price
I-I didn't know senpai
Tyler Watson
When the fuck is the next damn debate
I just want it to be the fucking election already dammit
Grayson Ross
...that guy has horrible gun safety.
Ryder Williams
There are three debates spaced out in time.
If you were Trump, would you throw everything you've got at her on the first run, exhausting your ammo, leaving nothing for the 2nd and 3rd?
Or would you wait and see how she handles it, what she uses, what she leaves out, get a general feel for it, and then base your 2nd performance on that?
Hillary went into it as if it was the 3rd debate, complete with last minute time's out zingers to leave viewers with the impression that she "won" (how you can "win" a petty persuasion contest is beyond me, but people insist on using such terms). Trump went into it "unprepared" and, all things considered, still did damn well in asserting his boss personal charisma and power. Hillary went into it after cramming for weeks with Godzilla and her team, memorizing lines and catchphrases.
Now, Trump can watch the debate, analyze her performance, and know what to expect from her next time. He has the foresight to plan out three debates in advance, shills think it's all over at one. You just don't grasp or appreciate Trump's genius; he "loves the game". Hillary is a puppet being played by many different hands; Trump is having the time of his life.
Wyatt Gutierrez
No worries, Pierre... Just know they get paid by replies
Dominic Perez
Ay yo, so what you be sayin is we just saw Batman Begins, now we get to see The Dark Knight?
Zachary Cooper
Is that the computer that hosts this damn site?
Look I've been with you guys a year and I like it but this damn site looks like something out of the 90s
Dominic Torres
He held back on purpose and had to debate two people at once and he still won
Andrew Hill
>tries to bring up Clinton Foundation, she turns it back on him >tries to bring up Bill infidelity, she turns it back on him
Dylan Sullivan
>non issues
No that was Hillary
Nolan Lewis
Pretty much. What fucking "ammo" does he actually have?
Matthew Mitchell
>and know what to expect from her next time.
It is the height of foolishness to think that Hillary can't do this as well.
Blake Gomez
Clinton has a psychotherapist in her camp who's studied Trump, and knows what sets him off track and gets him rambling, making him look unfit to lead.
It's psychological warfare, and bitches love doing that.
Ayden Phillips
Dude, stop talking reason, it hurts the "Trump is a genius" bubble that we're all in.
Jayden Barnes
So why hasn't Trump brought up Bill Clinton and the woman Hillary's shamed yet? He would get a shitload of supporters by making more millennials aware of what Bill did and how Hillary still stood by him, and by pointing out how Bill would end up back in the white house raping women after impeachment if Hillary were elected.
He said he would go all out on her if she did not cut out the "Trump hates women" bullshit, but she's still doing it and has been for months, with her even pulling out a former employee to lie about him, yet he hasn't touched on Bill and the mistresses at all.
Julian Ortiz
He wasn't civil. He interrupted her 51 times and rambled incoherent attacks. But delusional polacks will stay delusional and claim it was all part of some master plan. It's astounding.
Julian Gonzalez
...
Lucas Watson
Because he's had his own affairs and rape cases?
Oliver Cox
You mean the ones that have already been brought up and everyone's ignored or not believed? This is comparable to the affairs Bill has admitted to and was scolded out of the white house for?
Easton Morales
Ill take Autism for $1000
Xavier Jenkins
Thanks for correcting the record
Aaron Rivera
There is something very wrong with her, it's not even a meme any more.
Thomas Bailey
> and was scolded out of the white house for?
...what? Bill's approval rating on leaving the White House was 65% according to Gallup polls, higher than any president since Truman. Immediately after his impeachment was its highest point, 73%; in fact his second term was consistently better than his first in terms of approval rating.
Most world leaders consider having an approval rating of even 50% to be good, so leaving with a 65% approval rating is nothing remotely like a scolding. It's practically a ticker-tape parade.
Aiden Nguyen
>and everyone's ignored or not believed? Well, that settles it then. Thankfully you speak for everyone
Austin Watson
Yes, clearly getting impeached is an honorable discharge.
Fun fact, that 73% was not only an all-time high for Clinton, but it was also higher than Reagan's approval rating ever climbed.
Most people simply did not care about Clinton's affairs vis-a-vis his capabilities as a President, since it was pretty clear that one did not affect the other.
If you're wondering why Clinton gets a pass and Trump doesn't, it's because Bill was never caught denigrating women or insulting them based on appearance, whereas Trump has consistently demonstrated himself to be a sexist and misogynist who conflates appearance with Presidential ability.
Elijah Clark
He wills it
Aiden Cruz
Except he wasn't discharged. He was impeached in his 2nd term, which he served to its natural conclusion, and was not eligible to run for a 3rd term anyway.
Kevin Murphy
He actually said "I want you to be happy Hillary"
INTER-DIMENSIONAL MULTI-UNIVERSE ZERO-GRAVITY SPACE JENGA
Aiden Jackson
topkek
Justin Ward
One thing I took away from the debate is that Trump has resting poker face.
Jaxon Cruz
>being this new >admitting to being this new Normies get out
Ryder Fisher
Probably some kind of hypnosis or trance.. inb4 >muh MK ULTRA
I actually listened to the debate.. and didn't watch it. But its crazy. She seems out of touch. Over emotional sometimes.
I think we can expect Trump to have her BTFO next debate. Jeb/Ted/Rubio/Kasich style attacks.
Ian Nguyen
He really did win the debate. The problem is that the viewing public does care who really wins all they care about is ad hom.
Luis Lewis
Here's the strategy I think he should have gone for:
1st debate: ignore Clinton, don't even acknowledge her or what she says, brush it all off. Direct all rhetoric towards "Americans" in order to win over undecided.
2nd debate: destroy Clinton, smash her credibility, bring up everything she's ever done wrong.
3rd debate: go back to ignoring Clinton, address "Americans" again, state why would be good president.
At the end of the 1st debate Clinton would be thinking Trump was playing defensively, then after getting smashed in the 2nd and preparing to respond in the 3rd, being thrown off again when Trump ignores her.
Wyatt Lopez
Trump wasn't Trump at the debate. I fucking cringed sometimes and he wasted so many oportunities. No, I'm not a concern shill.
He probably was restraining himself. (12D CHESS)
Next debate ILLary will be BTFO. Mark my words.
And in the final debate she will just pick up the broken pieces.
Justin Jones
>instead of arguing policies drumpf should just attack Hillary for being married to a man who got his dick sucked a few times this is how he will win over the undecided vote drumpf supporters really are this stupid
Jack Green
You faggots started to sound more like hernie supporters when he was losing
Angel Ward
>He really did win the debate.
He really didn't, and polls are reflecting that Clinton received a boost from the debates, not Trump. Florida and Nevada have already flipped back to favor Clinton just 3 days later and NC is now also in danger of flipping over to Clinton. By the end of the week you will likely see Trump back to some of his worst numbers.
You can try to rig the online polls, but you can't rig reality friend.
Cooper Gonzalez
The general consesus is that Trump's performance has a mixed reaction.
Anthony Torres
Why does Trump look good in aviators?
Eli Gomez
>>Clinton Foundation >A+ platinum rated charity They water down the HIV ,medicine to make money.
Cooper Myers
You're CTR and honest people see your disgusting lies for what they are.
Jackson Allen
Is Jordan Jones 18 yet?
Daniel Rogers
I don't think he went soft on purpose. He should he could "lose" the debate and still win in the polls.
Hillary has to slam dunk these debates to even have a chance. Trump showed them it's a waste of resources.
>Mostly true >Liberal is right, but the numbers are wrong
>Pants on fire >Where does conservative guy get these numbers??
Hudson Price
>Hillary has to slam dunk these debates to even have a chance.
Well, she's 1/1 so far.
>He showed he could "lose" the debate and still win in the polls.
But the exact opposite of that is happening. He WAS winning leading up to the debate, and his numbers are tanking again post debate.
Daniel Wood
settle the fuck down viral marketer the election will be over soon
Gavin Brown
>November >Hillary Wins >"NUH UH TRUMP IS STILL JUST WAITING FOR HIS MOMENT, JUST WAIT, 12D CHESS CTR SHILLS! 12D CHESS!"
Christopher Thompson
They're still wrong about this
Charles Nguyen
Just like Brexit wouldn't happen right my dear weeb trash?
Sebastian Clark
I would go after ; Clinton foundation money laundering. How did Chelsea,buy 50 million Manhattan apartment. Pay for play, at state department. Selling of Lincoln bedroom,like cheap hotel. Obama care ,killing business. Lack of job creation in ny. Her idea of giving everyone good paying jobs by passing a bill. ( so silly)
Andrew Powell
Hillary can barely walk as it is, she was wearing somekind of corset for the debate.
As for Trump strat he had to play it cool and he did for the most part while keeping a bit of himself out there such as when hillary said 'why dont you blame me for everything and he replied 'why not'.
Hillarys ammo against Trump has been used up, if she keeps repeating it then it will lose all meaning just like when SJW keep shouting 'racist'.
Trump used a fraction of the ammo and the ammo he has left will hurt hillary big time, he may not even use it all again in the second debate instead waiting till the 3rd for that killer strike where it will be the lasting impression in peoples minds.
Add in the 24/7 attack ads hillary uses against trump this also will cause her message to be lost as people ignore it.
Hillary looked and acted like a robot for that debate and even though it was 2v1 overall against trump she did not do that well, if she was that good she should have crushed him but she seemed drugged up and zoning out with robotic answers.
Praise Kek Trump will win.
Jaxson Morris
>t-the n-next debate w-will be great for trump! >r-right, guys? >guys?
Andrew Morris
>Clinton foundation money laundering. You know she can just bring up the Trump Foundation investigations, right?
Ryder Reed
>event A proably won't happen >well event BCDQWHFHOW happened so this will happen too That logic lol
Leo Hill
>using Metal Gear pics to shill do not defile it
Ryan Kelly
I wish this happend because I endend going to sleep at 4:40 last monday and the debate was terrible.
I want Trump riping and tearing her.
Asher Walker
You can only claim tactical superiority after you win.
Ryder Scott
>I-I hope Trump will run. It it it it it will be an easy win for Hilldog! The Republicans are are are are kill. Landslide victory. >r-right, guys? >guys?
Jackson Kelly
Trump held back because there's two more debates yet and he's got a shitload of ammunition, whilst Clinton has very little to throw back at him beyond dredging up shit she already said in the first debate.
Carson Cooper
From your posted link. Even Blackburn’s report, which is the evidence for the Daily Caller’s claim, added a key qualifier, saying the "Clinton Foundation likely facilitated the distribution of watered-down HIV/AIDS medications in sub-Saharan Africa through its Clinton Health Access Initiative"
Facilitated Distribution of bad drugs,
Chase Thompson
I think that's why we were all a bit bummed. Trump won the debaye, but it was not a tko, it was a victory by decision.
Lucas Evans
Just look at the 2012 election. Obama completely fucked up the worst debate (he performed way worse than Trump did), but in the next two debates he completely dominated Romney and walked into the oval office with more than three fifths majority.
Juan Kelly
Different circumstances, familia. Clinton does debate by committee, inflexible, polished, safe. That's easy to prepare for but tricky to overcome.
Trump has been in politics for a single year and was asked to perform against a political juggernaut. It's foolish to assume Hillary will have as easy a time predicting the next debate rhetoric as Trump will
Anthony Jenkins
Try actually reading the whole thing
Brody Cox
He needs some milk.
Justin Parker
Nice dick
Zachary Miller
Someone please make a gif
Zachary Gray
For you prison cousin
Joshua Moore
Shadilay, a victory for Chaos is a step in the direction of order.
Charles Cook
she just turned 16, the sweet spot age :^) (and legal)
Jason Allen
It was on purpose, trump never planned on destroying her the first debate. He wants to keep her in, show the people how dirty she really is. The last debate he'll lay out everything for the people to see
Jose Wood
He needs some milk.
Hudson Hall
>>Clinton foundation money laundering. >You know she can just bring up the Trump Foundation investigations
Just l like the release your taxes line. No one cares, boring subject only a tax lawyer, would understand,or care about. She's has boring public speaking demeanor , after awhile you quit listening.she needs something ,that wouldn't help
Jaxon Ramirez
Trump can't just act like he does at a rally.
Daniel Nguyen
There are other debates right? This isnt the only one correct?
So why would he use everything he has on the first fucking one? That would leave him with nothing to go on for the future debates.
Leave the 6th dimensional skeet ball strategies to Trump.
Hunter Martinez
>skeet ball sounds cuckservative AF kouhai
Gavin Evans
Based on where her pelvic bone protrudes, her dick must be like 30 cm long. It sure is a nice dick.
Juan Fisher
She's seeing the inevitable
Jacob Robinson
Lets see if you can get this into your head, burger.
You have 2 choices: 1: Hillary Clinton 2: Donald Trump
You're not choosing Hillary. So what do you end up with...? Think real hard now.
Easton Russell
>He fuck off you homosexual faggot
Liam Sanders
Dubs never lie
Camden Hernandez
I think trumpers and shills can all agree he has the popular vote by a landslide.( The rally turnouts, his endorsements labor, police,border agents,general's,admirals, military,etc) The stickie wicket is the electoral college, and voter fraud.
Henry Rivera
Even my lefty female early 60s boss thinks hillary is a criminal.
Give it up mate. The whole world knows.
Btw the new leaks showed she armed isis. She is toast
Michael Moore
>She was wearing a corset lol nope, you would still see the stiff posturing, and her figure would have curved a certain way. Now, she could've had a back brace of some sort, but it isn't a corset.
t. avid corsetry collector and maker
Brandon Peterson
Lets see. Trading favors while at state. Taking money from fing algeria while at state. Selling uranium to russia in exchange for graft.
Compared to trumps tax returns?
Seriousy try a new angle. That angle just makes hillary look more crooked
Aaron Fisher
>convinces tens of millions of American voters thats he's just like them with his low key deliveries, slightly contraversial rhetoric (countries like Australia already have intensive screening of non Australian Muslims) and the rolling topical coverage against him reinforces this.
>Successfully liberalising Republican Party values, successfully 'leaning' the media to attack this loose image he crafted which he will reign in 4 weeks before just like Reagan did.
>Everyone attacks this 'loose' character image, whilst not debating any intellectual issues around ANY of his policies.
>Media deintellectualises debate, which drives people to vote for Trump regardless.
>Uses people's empty and non intellectual emotions that surround American politics to trick them into driving middle ground voters to Trump's side due to spewing emotional vitriol which lacks any intelligent or intellectual qualities.
>tfw they dont even understand and they cant help themselves but throw these fucking logs onto the Trump fire
Anthony Cruz
>Godzilla and her team Who the fuck is Godzilla?
Jayden Morgan
It has already been defiled, you fucking moron.
Where have you been all this time?
Colton Kelly
Read/watch Scott Adams, Godzilla is supposedly the master of the masters of persuaders.
Damn, I wonder how different this election would be with a younger, healthier Hillary. Just look at 2002 Hillary, she looks more lively and a lot more competent at the very least.
Nathaniel Hall
Use an extension
Gavin Clark
I believe this too, hope it works out
Tyler Lopez
Trump Bump
Jonathan Martinez
Most of the time people bagging on Trump are just reciting CNN propaganda, as a kneejerk response people just ignore them or name the shill and sage. Happens all the time in gun control threads
Bentley Thompson
The main problem the liberal party and the media have in fighting Trump is that their go to attack, calling your opponent a racist and every other -ist or -ism under the sun, suddenly doesn't work anymore, and they've relied on it for so long there having a hard time adapting.
It's like in a friday the 13th movie when somebody blasts jason in the chest with a shotgun and he just gets back up
Dylan Flores
I work in recycled electronics processing and this image triggers me
Oliver Scott
Nice to know, i think she was wearing something though, very dodgy walk on desu.
Asher Hernandez
>he's not a retard, he's a genius! Four points down since the debate, idiot.
Lincoln Martinez
This is the man who knew about "Taco Bowls" two months before the DNC hacks were released, and he sent them a clear message on Cinco de Mayo. Except they were too fucking stupid to get it.
Charles Howard
By not going after clinton foundation and war on women he has people talking about them and in suspense. He is the master showman teasing it out. He also checked the "he's not a bully" box off in the normies heads
Christian Jackson
Hillary Clinton died on 9/11/2016.The person u see on TV is her double Teresa Barnwell. Google it.
Gabriel King
why waste the ammo when the average american will forget the shit after a couple weeks
you go hard at crunch time
John Williams
I think he's likely better off letting Bill's victims speak and keep his speaking to beghazi, emails, the foundation/haiti etc
Gavin Nelson
>Portillo's
Is she in Chicago......?
Noah Robinson
The problem is, he wont' do anything of his. He'll ramble on about his business, talk over people and generally act the fool.
We are projecting a bit to hard on this guy I feel. I think we need to accept that Trump is a protest vote and leave it at that.
Juan Ross
>She isn't a criminal. He is
Do you even know what youère saying
Andrew Evans
he doesn't need to win his fanbase, he already has them. he needs to win the weak willed shits in the middle that are desperately looking for a reason to not vote for hillary
Nathaniel Scott
Trump is nowhere near that smart. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see hillary get rekt so hard she has a seizure right on stage, but it's not gonna happen. Trump can't control his ego and all hillary has to do is keep pushing his buttons.
Thomas Campbell
>Hillarys ammo against Trump has been used up I'm trying to figure out how Trump's ammo isn't equally spent. All of the things he can throw at her, he's been throwing at her since he got the nom... Emails, Benghazi, etc, literally all of it is old news, he's been bringing it up for months now, it's not fresh. You can't pull a punch you threw before you even entered the ring.
Charles Martin
these people and more have been primed for the next debate. first debate: trump has to not appear crazy. done. second debate: trump has to give them what they want, which is dirt. third debate: ???
Asher Hill
why not stab her with your choab to the eye.
Xavier Diaz
No idea what that means.
Jonathan Lee
and also with you
Carson Richardson
I read this in trumps voice
Cameron Myers
like saying to her fuck you hillary you ain't going be prisident. she opens her mouths and he unzip his pants and stab her to the eye with his dick,all the audiance will be clapping and cheering then the stage explodes. america 1775-2016.
Gavin Murphy
People were saying that voters were turned off by Hillary just because they finally saw her on live national television.
Ethan Thomas
>I didn't really lose the debate >I was only pretending XD
Only a trump voter could be grasping at these kind of straws. Next debate, when Hillary BTFO's Trump all over again the tears will be like manna from heaven.
Landon Sullivan
trump will win
Nathan Martinez
Pence literally told him to be himself
Juan Long
as kek wills it
Ethan Scott
Honestly this thread just shows how some people really are deluded, be it either for hillary or trump.
Both candidates are extremely unlikeable for the average undecided voter, Trump trying to explain and defend himself was what killed him in the first debate, very few people actually care about the truth if you spend half the debate explaining how you're not paying people or avoiding tax (even if it's justified). I don't know if he has some kind of plan, or if he doesn't realize this, but hillarys writing crew was on point - this election isn't won by elevating yourself but by flinging as much shit as you can on your opponent, even if it doesn't stick.
Cooper Collins
sadly this, in normie sites the all see the candidates as terrible. as someone even said to he will vote in 2019 there will be hope. comon wtf make your mind. no stratigic thinking at all you hate trump vote for him atleast this 4 years better than hillary for 8 years
Lucas Sanders
Every poll except cnn's says otherwise. Try harder shill
Ian Rogers
problem with trump is he loves to talk about himself
if the moderator gets trump to talk about himself, he'll spend half the debate talking about his businesses and his money and workers
this is his big weakness
Connor Lopez
President Trump has such a nice ring to it.
Carter Wood
>The public will see it ths way too and they will "allow" Trump to take the gloves off Heres where you fucked up
Angel Turner
He got fucked bottom line.
If Lester asked Clinton more than 3 questions he would've been able to hit but that was the set up all along
Daniel Taylor
like 20 yo kid know how politics work.
go back waching all your tv movies, they show a prettier reality of what you see damm millenial virgin faggot. you dont even pay taxes yourself, and you are talking shit. damm autism
Alexander Ross
>44
WITNESSED. SEE YOU IN VALHALLA
Leo Price
Are you serious? Trump was planted there so that Hillary wouldn't have real opposition the next president was (((decided))) long before the campaign even started and you are all falling for it.
Carter Rivera
I think he realises this after the firat debate, and even said he will go after her harder in the next one
He will listen to his cuck, risk-averse advisors up to a point, but he is smart enough to know what needs to be done now - smash the bitch into oblivion
Hudson Price
>trump stiffed businesses >just Like bill stiffed Monica?
Jeremiah Wright
he doesn't need your edgy 10 thetans of the redpill vote you stupid fuck
Ian Price
The man has gotten every liberal outlet to give him more coverage than the woman paying them millions to do the same.
Jacob Stewart
I think Trump is just a pawn and a mediocre politician. The Clintons have much more experience and strategic resources I'm afraid. He wilk disappoint again.
Lincoln Torres
What's the significance of taco bowls?
Brayden Williams
CTR will never acknowledge 5d chess strats
Aiden Richardson
looks like morse code. SOS or something
Brody Martin
Does anyone have a webm or mp3 of the "seizure" moment, when you see Trump on splitscreen literally mouth the word seizure?
Joshua Edwards
she kinda has the thousand-cock stare
Bentley Evans
It's what the dnc was referring to latinos as in some of the leaked emails.
Nolan Williams
I hope Donny Deutsch isn't teasing us and drumpf actually brings up Jeffery Epstein.
Robert Jones
>The public will see it ths way too and they will "allow" Trump to take the gloves off
No they won't, you are retarded. Shillary gets a pass for literally everything.
Julian Gonzalez
Parkinson's freeze
Hunter Martinez
I mean...really.
In anything like this. You let them take the first step. Watch and then you can react. Trump will fucking murder her either the next or the last debate. I think he may still take it easy the 2nd debate and go FULL PORK on the 3rd.
-Trump 2016-
Alexander Mitchell
Am I the only person who thinks Trump had a dalliance with Hillary back in the day? She used to look at him with actual adoration. Pretty weird, in retrospect.
How disturbing would it be to have to attack a former flame like that, knowing that she is a complete shit human being who absolutely must be removed from power?
Regardless of whether or not there's any truth to this, there is all so much backstory to our current situation that we'll never hear. The air is thick with it.
Carter Mitchell
There's fertile ground here for a tragic romance novel.
Evan Smith
Never in history have 2 candidates been more romantically linked, that's for certain
Cooper Perez
She'd probably win. By the same token, if Trump were his younger, handsomer self, he'd probably win too.
But they're actually about equal for this race, so who knows.
Jace Long
>this level of damage control
Hillary-1 Drumpf -0
Nice try, drumpfkin.
Matthew Wilson
wtf i love joe biden now
Juan Roberts
>My fucked up unemployed brain can't come up with anything so i'll just say CEE TEE ARRRRR xPPPP and that will make me look like i'm right....... M.....M...MAGA!!
Josiah Mitchell
Cialdini
Chase Myers
>Infidelity and infidelity claims are talking points and hold weight on the choosing of the president of the most powerful nation in the world. Why are people this fucking retarded seriously. And how is being cheated on "ammo" for trumm to use against her ? >HA you see people of america ?! She got cheated on so that makes her unfit for politics !! Say it out loud and tell me it doesn't sound retarded.
Jose Evans
nonsense. he didn't come off timid, he came off strong-arming lester and interrupting hilldog, but not to the point of arrogance we haven't come to "expect" of trump.
Everyone creates this expectation of a rabid dog around Trump, and many will tune in for the 2nd debate. studies show undecided and 4-year turncoats tune in for more than one debate.
he'll go ham on her ass and it'll be glorious for the second debate.
Noah Diaz
Because the number of viewers is dramatically less in the 2nd and 3rd debates.
Samuel Powell
This bullshit might've made sense if Trump didnt act like a retard, and talk shit about Hillary, Ms. Universe and virtually everyone and everything related.
But he did, so if he were to do that, he'd look desperate and stupid.
Carter Cooper
Let the games begin!
Samuel Bell
>They hit him with everything they have on him. What are you talking about, Hillary hit him with some of the most superficial ammo. Trump gave her more for her ammopile during and after the debate.
Julian Ortiz
He's going to look like a spoiled brat / sore loser if he falls for this shit
She's playing him like a fucking violin at the moment.
I'm fucking loving it.
Nolan Sullivan
This is so dumb though, because the first debate is the one that matters the most. The second debate partially, and the third one doesnt matter at all. It's really funny that people keep thinking Trump is playing 5-D chess, because they keep insisting "Just wait, he'll smarten up" for the past dozen or so debates.
It's just not gonna happen. He truly is an idiot.
Lincoln Stewart
Is she swigging a glass of jizz?
Lucas Adams
He didn't. He was attacked from all sides because everyone thought they could make political hay from him - Rand Paul was first up, and we know how that went. Only the people who attacked him got it hard - he simply didn't know or care enough about the other candidates or policies until they engaged with him.
Christian Williams
Trump was obviously saving his ammo at the first debate. Hillary has no meaningful ammo to begin with, and she still used it all.
When oh when will they learn. You cannot stump the Trump.
Jason Barnes
let's see if this works
Camden Bailey
Sounds like you're mad Trump isn't a little bitch and isn't afraid to attack his opponent. Fucking Bernie was a cuckold and didn't attack shillary and look where he ended up.
Carson Ross
Since I can't post sound webms on Cred Forums, I made this.
Note that in sound versions, you can actually fucking HEAR him say "seizure".
Sounds like you're mad Trump is a mental midget and couldn't muster any serious assault against Hillary. Trump cant articulate half the shit everyone on this board wants him to say.