Not paying your taxes makes you un-American

Doing everything you can to avoid paying taxes is as american as it gets.

I mean shit we revolted and declared independence over taxes for fucks sake.

I guess Id point out the need to have an IRS that respected privacy laws and wouldnt release a private citizens tax records to members of the prowar party.

>oy vey good people give all the money they can!

I'm amazed at how angry people can get at someone that DIDN'T BREAK THE FUCKING LAW

Yes, he admitted he didn't pay federal taxes you fucking jungle-swinging ape. Are you so gullible you actually fall for this shit? Do you really think that's the same as tax evasion?

Lots of entrepreneurs don't pay any Federal Income Tax. Do you think it's wrong that a business owner who takes a $130,000 salary, and invests $250,000 of his personal savings to open a new location receives a proportional tax deduction? He will pay pay no FIT for that year and maybe even get some money back depending on his tax strategy. Oh yeah, that's a super big problem, someone should do something about that.

Even with that, because of one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world, and capital gains tax, the 1% of income earners pay 45% of the complete federal tax burden. How much should they pay to meet Hillary's quota of "fair share"? 55%? 65%? At what percentage do these people just shut their business down, or move it elsewhere?

How about the 60% of American individuals who ALSO don't effectively pay federal income tax, and it's not because they are investing in our economy -- it's because the receive more federal $ in programs than they pay in every year?

This is undeniable. American education system is so laughably pathetic that it has created an entire class of voters who think potatoes.

>Not paying your taxes makes you un-American.
He didn't "not pay his taxes". He used the loopholes in the system to legally avoid paying any taxes.

So if you're pissed at anyone, be pissed at the IRS, the bankers and the politicians for making such shitty laws and regulations that someone could get away with legally not paying any taxes.

Sage

Taxation is theft

>This is undeniable. American education is so laughably pathetic that it has created an entire class of voters who think Clinton is fit to be president.
See? Your statement can be applied to anyone.

Utilizing the laws of America doesn't make you American? He simply used the laws that were in place to get where he is.

How do you know he didn't pay them? Did he release his tax returns?

This country was built on saying fuck off to taxes.

Laquisha Datwonia and Marcus Tyronius Antonius don't need new phones paid for by John and Bob from the suburbs.

Endeavouring to pay the minimum taxes is how any good capitalist should behave

I dont get it. Maybe i dont know something about your local culture.

>I'm amazed at how angry people can get at someone that DIDN'T BREAK THE FUCKING LAW
According to the Department of Justice and the FBI, Hillary didn't break the law either.

You are fucking stupid. It is that he owes taxes like al sharpton, he simply follows the tax laws and uses any deductions and breaks that are available to him. It is called being smart

>B A I T
>S A G E

>Did he release his tax returns?
lol. You're kidding, right?

Trump is never going to release his tax returns.

tax for what? to feed Jamal and Shaniqua for another month? To pay Mr Goldsteinenberg his congress salary so he can buy another pool? To fund more soldiers so they can die in a ditch full of sand? fuck you faggot, NOT paying taxes is the most american thing you can do given the current corrupt status of the government and being a business man, he was smart about it. no business wants to pay taxes and we all try to figure ways around the laws to pay as little taxes as possible

if you cant understand this, it means you are not a business owner, therefore you can go an suck a cock you massive faggot

Kys

>I dont get it. Maybe i dont know something about your local culture.
Most Americans think exactly how the media wants them to think and only knows that which the media lets them know.

Income tax is unjust and was unconstitutional in the founding fathers day. Any action to avoid or lower income tax is justified.

I make money so I owe money??? what??

It took a Constitutional Amendment to institute the Federal Income Tax because it was specifically prohibited by the Constitution as written by the Founders.

The Federal Income tax is un-American.

Goddamnit. Came here to post this.

>Taxation is theft
Stop taking part in the USA then.

I'm not kidding

If he didn't release them how can you be sure that he didn't pay? Is it not then just another flailing attempt to slander Trump?

Its sad.

die borg

>Hillary didn't break the law either.
Only because they gave her and everyone involved immunity before they even started the investigation.

I'm not kidding

If he didn't release them how can you be sure that he didn't pay? Is it not then just another flailing attempt to slander Trump without evidence?

Rich people and businesses dodging taxes is the most american thing ever.

Actually they found that she did indeed break the law but didn't recommend prosecution for totally legit reasons you definitely shouldn't ask questions about.

Income taxes are unamerican and this country was founded because of our god damn hatred of taxes.

So when have your tax accountant do your taxes, do you tell him you don't want to take any deductions, etc, so you can pay the most tax possible?

Thanks for making a thread Elliot

Maybe government with his monopolies can stop taking part in the USA and leave people alone?

>If he didn't release them how can you be sure that he didn't pay?
Because he gloated about it during the debate.

>Is it not then just another flailing attempt to slander Trump?
Oh it's an attempt to slander Trump, I agree. But the fact remains that Trump didn't pay any taxes and won't be releasing his tax returns.

Depends on what your conception of America is. You don't have a monopoly on it.

Alright i saw the cuck, and i wasn't gonna reply
But not paying taxes IS LITERALLY the most American thing you can fucking do
Using the system to your advantage IS LITERALLY the most American thing you can do
An fucking hero

>Only because they gave her and everyone involved immunity before they even started the investigation.
So you're saying the entire system is broken and it doesn't matter if someone is truly innocent or guilty?

>Actually they found that she did indeed break the law but didn't recommend prosecution for totally legit reasons you definitely shouldn't ask questions about.
If they didn't charge her with a crime, she didn't break the law.

It's like the people saying Bush is a war criminal when no court arrested, charged, convicted and sentenced him.

The worst part is that when they lose their freedom to the point they become unhappy, they wont understand what went wrong.
Like a puppy that doesnt know why its owner beats him.
It makes it harder to find satisfaction in their coming misery :/

taxes are unconstitutional you pleb

>Maybe government with his monopolies can stop taking part in the USA and leave people alone?
Saying taxation is the theft while receiving the benefits of taxes is theft in of itself.

When one stops taking part in benefits of taxes and stops paying taxes, then one could make the case that taxation is theft.

Besides...screaming "taxation is theft" is just meaningless buzzwords.

>Its sad.
It's the (((American))) way.

>taxes are unconstitutional you pleb
Stop paying them and stop taking part in what taxation gives you then.

"Stockholm Syndrome"

This whole not paying taxes meme is ridiculous. If he hasn't paid taxes for 20 years or whatever bullshit story CTR is paying you to say the IRS would have seized his shit long ago. Reducing your tax liability so you don't have to pay any ADDITIONAL taxes is what all working Americans do

he paid his taxes though.

they just happen to be zero thanks to the kike laws.

My main problem with Trump during the debate was his opinion on the No-Fly-List gun ban thing seemed congruent with Clinton's. I think he should have responded to that by saying the No-Fly-List is unconstitutional and should be abolished, and that anybody who is considered too dangerous to fly should be prosecuted if there's a legitimate case against them.

I thought he started out very strong, but later on he should've slowed down a bit and tried to be more articulate. But maybe his verbal barrage is some kind of 3D chess move, so I'll defer to Dilbert Man on that point.

Taxation without representation. I don't mind some luxury taxes and beyond essentials consumption tax, but getting taxed before you get paid and on almost every step after that until you die is going too far.

>Taxation is theft
>I still want to enjoy my comfy life as a fat autistic Cred Forumsack with all the services provided by the state
>But taxation is theft though

Go live in the woods, faggots

Trump behind the scenes
youtube.com/watch?v=YrJAyV8bF2U

>So you're saying the entire system is broken and it doesn't matter if someone is truly innocent or guilty?

Based on yesterday's hearings with Comey, that is exactly how it works for the rich and powerful

Shut the fuck up. If you don't believe she committed a crime please refrain from voting.

CTR can't possibly believe Hillary is a good person, and yet CTR continues to act as though she's a good person and isn't one of the worst people to ever work in this government.

And what state provides?

Generally it provides, military, police, and courts. Not in your case, though :^)

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>This whole not paying taxes meme is ridiculous.
It is when such a large percentage of the nation doesn't pay taxes.

>If he hasn't paid taxes for 20 years or whatever bullshit story CTR is paying you to say the IRS would have seized his shit long ago.
Just because I don't unconditionally support Trump doesn't mean I'm CTR. Cred Forums is not nor should it be a Trump-only hugbox.

But yes, if Trump illegally dodged paying, the IRS would've gotten him a long time ago. According to Trump they've been auditing him every year forever.

>Reducing your tax liability so you don't have to pay any ADDITIONAL taxes is what all working Americans do
The whole tax system is so convoluted and broken, if you fuck up doing the paperwork you can be thrown into prison, regardless of who you are.

smart business owners will try to pay the least amount of tax possible.

Go ahead, try to dispute this.

Some people actually try to succeed in life rather than worrying about hurting people's feelings and paying extortion money to the mafia... I mean government

Which is used for interest of the government (Logical way, there are same people who wants to benefit), stealing from other people, creating monopolies, censor etc.
Its like i am told "in anarchy there will be retard with giant army who will control you" (Literaly the thing anarchist are against)

TAX AVOIDANCE

VS

TAX EVASION

paying no tax does make you smart. It proves the system is rigged. Even if Hillary raises taxes on the rich they will still pay little to no tax

>Shut the fuck up.

>america gets paid hundreds of billions a year by china
>somehow a few million dollars in taxes is supposed to make a difference

I don't know for you. But in France , roads maintenance/education/the military/the health system are some examples. Along with lots of small services.

More like:
>America has 20 trillion in national debt and 200 trillion in unfunded liabilities.
>Actually thinks one more rich person paying their taxes will save the country.

I wonder how great your country would be if everyone was as smart with their taxes as Turmp.

Paying as little as possible is the most American thing you can do

Starve the beast motherfucker

If you're a low-life with 3 or more kids, you make bank in Earned Income Tax Credit. You virtually pay no taxes in what you get returned every spring.

He pays what he's legally required to pay which thanks to loopholes that he wants to close is effectively nothing.

He pays as much as Hillary does faggot. You think she doesn't use the same loopholes?

Except when you are skilled you realize there are stipulations and loopholes and can conduct your business in such a way as to pay less taxes while still playing by the rules.

If you were a big boy you'd know this.

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Sage the shill thread

If tax returns are what they're running with, Hillary's internals must have her in real trouble.

Liberals have always ran on the platform of "tax the rich" to forward their class warfare agenda.

But now they have a Republican candidate that is ultra-rich and admitted to not paying taxes.

It's like a present has fallen into their lap.

Of course they're going to press this issue.

it doesnt give me shit u fagg0t

>it doesnt give me shit u fagg0t
You believe that because you're delusional.

you havent pointed out what it gives me. stay pleb and ignorant

>you havent pointed out what it gives me
All that infrastructure you use on a daily basis? Taxes.
That public education you received?
Taxes.

To claim you've gone through your entire life without receiving any benefits from taxes is a ignorant statement of the highest order.

>Income taxes are unamerican and this country was founded because of our god damn hatred of taxes.

This guy gets it.
A cop was hassling me once about wearing a mohawk and asked me why I do it.
I told him a bullshit story about how anarchists dressed as indians threw the tea in Boston Harbor in protest of taxation without representation. The cop grew a little misty eyed and let me drive away, even though I was kind of drunk.

No it doesn't

Depends on the leadership. And trump isn't paying 0% of his taxes. Probably like 10% like romney. Still a lot more money than the average percon will ever see, but if the number comes out liberals who pay 1/100000th what trump does will be crying about how he's destroying america.

The more you pay the more is squandered. Look at the 100000 dollar comedy show we payed for. "Make chi not war" look at the taxpayer money that social scientists are getting to study homosexuality amoung minirities.

Absolutely squandered.

NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION

Taxes are un-American
There was no such thing as an income tax under the original Constitution

>paying your (((taxes)))

went to private skewl bud and infrastructure built by nigs

not to mention the govt. is corrupt as fuck and not doing (((anything)))

fuck you, ctr shill

>Go live in the woods, faggots

Can't. That's illegal unless you pay the (((Government))) their taxes.