Anyone else legitimately want Hillary to win?

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I don't want her to win, but I know she will. And, realistically, I know she'd make a better president than a mouth-breathing idiot like Trump.

that pose officially went too far.

yes, to be entirely honest.
i didn't much care until scalia died, but i really don't want the epic reddit meme man to choose his replacement

My wife's boyfriend DeAndre, and their son, DuShawn

I don't want Trump to win, that's basically the same thing.

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ QUEEEEEEN

How much does CTR even get for commenting this shit?

Trump wants to steal Iraq's oil, bomb Iranian ships, and would probably escalate a trade war with China into a militarized conflict.

Thank God you can't vote.

not an argument :p

Me and my girlfriend's black son's best friend agree that Hillary is right for us.

Not even trying to convince people I'm right, but I am voting for her. What "record" would I be correcting?

I just think the whole MAGA GOD EMPEROR shit is fucking cringy and cuckoldish to vicariously live through him

Sad.

I can't wait for her to win just so that I can see the manchild Trumplet supporters who call everyone else with a different opinion a 'CTR shill' have a meltdown.

I will not be salty if she wins.

A lot of ex military are Though.

Not pretty

Thanks for correcting the record.

I'm not a paid shill. There is no vast left-wing conspiracy to undermine Trump on Cred Forums, but I won't act like he's not an idiot. He is. He has no understanding of how to be a politician and for some people that's part of his appeal. I just don't think you hire someone for a job they're not only unqualified for but also could do quite a lot of damage by doing badly.

Racist Pepe! I'm calling the ADL, you bigot

yeah... that's why I want Hillary to win

do you even know how to read?

FFL here. Looking forward to the ridiculous run on guns and ammo her election is going to cause. Planning on making massive profit.

How could anybody in their right mind

I don't want my country to become the laughing stock of the world

so yes.

no

No. OP is very against police , absolutely terrible, that's what they tell me. Very bad cyber.

People who want ww3

why do you want the end of western civilization?

yes
>globalists
>nwo
>jews
>illuminati
>reptilians
>satan
>retards

A vote for Trump is a vote for memes.

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Really sad that some are so braindead they can only respond to others with memes

No. Fuck off.

This

No, but I think no matter who wins, we win.
Trump, through voting
Hillary, through violence.

I don't understand why you would elect a woman who has leaked state secrets through ineptitude, taken bribes from terrorists, and destroyed multiple countries to be president of your own country.

No one is being paid to shill for Hillary by the way. It's a Republican-funded lie and a pathetic attempt to smear her campaign. :^)

>implying I'm not still voting sanders

I'm coming at you with full force! The shockwaves will be YUUUUUUUGE!

And buh-lieve me, you WILL NOT be waking up when I'm finished!

Secret Frog Art - One Thousand Trump Trains!

How many black men do you allow to fuck your wife? The last two digits of my post will tell me.

>11D CHESS!!! chess...chess...chess...

Jesus fuck.....

Yes.
I don't like her, in the sense that she is not the best candidate the Democrats could have fielded, nor the most intelligent or experienced.
But as opposed to someone who has never in his life been a public servant in any sense which would make him an effective president, yes, of fucking course I want her to win.
People seem to forget the complexity of their own governments for some reason, even though we spend an entire year at the minimum studying it in our public schools. Some random fucking guy is not going to be able to anything, he will be the true definition of a lame duck if he cannot work with his own party as well as the opposition to compromise.

Compromise is also something we have seemingly forgot the importance of.

Only to see Cred Forums have a meltdown.

Then again it happens every time Repubs lose.

I would if they'd pay me to say I was

CTR shitposting job applications when?

Of Course, half these cucks may praise trump on the internet but most of them cant legally vote.

Also there are assuredly shills among us, and you're an unobservant fool, or a shill yourself, to claim otherwise.

I don't know why people get so assblasted when Trump repeats the same thing to get the point across in a loud stadium

No. It's pretty much just you. Even the people that don't want Trump to win don't want Hillary either. She's a dressed up lunatic, and won't live past the first year. Then you're stuck with Tim Kaine. Enjoy that, asshat.

Why are trumptards so obsessed with black men fucking their wives? Freudian slip?

Kinda.

Cred Forums would NEVER see the end of the bantz.

Imagine a world where Cred Forums stopped spamming other boards with off-topic shit out of sheer embarrassment of being associated with Cred Forums.

No. God no.

Because the alternative is actually worse. That's the sad state of affairs we're living in. A Hillary presidency would be an establishment presidency, 8 more years of Obama. That's not great, but it's not the terrible mismanagement and international disgrace that a Trump presidency would be.

Yes, because it would be a fast track to the happening, whatever form it may take.

Me.
Trump ain't gonna stop it, the establishment will throw everything they can to interrupt anything revolutionary and when shit hits the fan he'll be a Perfect sacrificial goat.

I say let Hillary win and try putting out the flames of happening with some petrol(lary).

>No one is being paid to shill for Hillary by the way
what is ctr

Me, trump circlejerks on Cred Forums are out of control, too bad I can't vote.

Yep. Trump is a scumbag and retard. Hillary has much better policy, shame she is also a piece of shit. Just not so big a shit as trump

Maybe this

Haven't really made my mind up tho

Thank you for correcting the record.

>Not wanting a giant beautiful tourist local pumping money back into the economy, while also keeping faggots out.

Haha your a fucking idiot. Too bad your alive and can breathe. Sad people this dumb get to vote. Your the reason the Country is falling apart, believing what the Feds tell you while they steal and waste your money. Kys

Do you get off to the idea of your wife having Tyrone going balls deep into her mouth, and satisfying her better than you ever could?

If Trump supporters are manchildren, Hillary supporters like you get to be cuckolds :^)

>I would rather see my race become irreversably displaced than have a less well-spoken president.

How can you be so fucking demoralized, Poland? Jesus. You'd commit suciide, if you had to live in Kekmanistan! Get your act together, brother.

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Regardless of who "wins", the real winner will be Chaos.

The only correct action is start stuffing Mylar bags with beans and rice.

good job ignoring this post.

>he's the idiot

>convinces tens of millions of American voters thats he's just like them with his low key deliveries, slightly contraversial rhetoric (countries like Australia already have intensive screening of non Australian Muslims) and the rolling topical coverage against him reinforces this.

>Successfully liberalising Republican Party values, successfully 'leaning' the media to attack this loose image he crafted which he will reign in 4 weeks before just liek Reagan did.

>Everyone attacks this 'loose' character image, whilst not debating any intellectual issues around ANY of his policies.

>Media deintellectualises debate, which drives people to vote for Trump regardless.

Yeah guy sure is a fucking idiot, not like all the yanks he managed to fool....... kek

I WANT Obama to run for a third term.

>Because the alternative is actually worse.

What, proper immigration control and bringing down the trade deficit is worse than continuing to undermining national sovereignty and getting into a shooting war with russia over fucking emails? I genuinely hope you're being paid, because if you're actually this fucking stupid I genuinely feel bad for you. Hillary is not only a murderous corrupt lunatic, she's a fucking idiot who can't even cover her tracks.

>want Hillary to win?
yeah...good luck with that.

thepoliticalinsider.com/wikileaks-confirms-hillary-sold-weapons-isis-drops-another-bombshell-breaking-news/

globalresearch.ca/wikileaks-says-they-have-1700-emails-proving-hillary-clinton-knew-about-u-s-military-weapons-shipments-to-al-qaeda-and-isis/5541014

redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=32072

inquisitr.com/3408741/wikileaks-says-they-have-1700-emails-proving-hillary-clinton-knew-about-u-s-military-weapons-shipments-to-al-qaeda-and-isis/

I'm reading the replies and enjoying what I'm seeing so far. Glad to know that now Cred Forums is a pro-hillary board.

kek and they called citizens in the Reich brainwashed

It's going to happen because the deplorables started worshipping a frog avatar of chaos while calling their candidate/themselves centipedes. Maroons, the lot of 'em.

nypost.com/2016/09/29/clinton-is-now-beating-trump-in-5-must-win-battleground-states/

>Cred Forumsack roleplays as shill
>Everyone falls for it

You guys are fucking stupid

>Really sad that some are so braindead they can only respond to others with memes
This is a image board you dumbfuck. lmfao

This is why I never liked the cuck meme

If people around here hated cucking as much as they want you to think they do, they wouldn't talk nonstop about it

Little did Lelmany know that collapse of western civilisation in a welcome development and necessary step in a joint plan to purge degeneracy and for Poland to become a superpower.
:^)

if you want to see america burn and the whole (((world)))

voting hillary means
>russia sides with china, north korea, syria, and a bunch of other shitty countries
>letting a sjw corporate women who's main purpose is to destroy white males
>giving up guns, and many other rights
>inviting hordes of immigrants into america
>likely to see ww3 by the end of her term, or watching USA lose super power status

voting trump means
>keeping all if not gaining more rights
>stopping the flow of illegals, and kicking out many
>making america strong from the inside out
>allowing businesses and competition to grow
>uniting under a strong world leader, who can negotiate with strong countries, unlike hillary who is bought and paid for

Yeah, becasue of the Crossfags.

The fact that your immediate response is to start conceiving cuckold fantasies is pretty revealing.

me.
Because she will turn the US into a european shithole.
Welfare state, no guns, incredibly high taxes.

ANd I want you fuckers to burn.
I want everythin to burn tbqh senpaitachi

I did but at this point I don't trust her so I'm not going to be voting this year.

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i legitimately want you to get cancer so your parents watch you die

>More likely to take a hard line on (((Israel)))
>Backed by the guys that run the economy
>health problems overrated as seen at the Debate.
#InHer

So that means Polan will finally go to space, yes?

Last post in this shill thread. Trump never wanted to run for President. 25 years ago he said he'd only run if he had to. Seeing how you liberal faggots all think your so smart you created this. Maga or die trying

basically soros, the globalists, the establishment, international socialists, welfare queens, and brainwashed useful idiots...

Something kind of comforting knowing we will all burn together.

>proper immigration control
A border wall is an expensive, useless fantasy. It would also have zero effect on a trade deficit because Trump being president doesn't allow him to wave a magic wand and undo NAFTA. What change do you think Trump would actually be able to accomplish? Most of his policies would never get past the Congress, either because they're half-baked and moronic or simply because the Democrats would use the same blocking tactics the Republicans have used for the past decade.

are you babus seriously flooding your own threads? just get back to doing tech support for our baby boomers.

Stay classy trumptard. Your tears will be salty af come election day. Maybe Trump will cry too in his concession.

god isn't real and hillary is

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we will live through the end of 500 years of white european dominance, brother.
its like seeing the roman empire getting pillaged by germanic barbarians.
Its history in the making.

I have friends in Maine. Not one of them supports Hillary. In fact, if you check their official facebook pages (Trump and Hillary), you can see who has more followers for yourself.

2015
>Fuck the status quo! Hillary is a criminal. Morally I would never want her to win! Islam is the problem! Gooooo TRUMP!

Early 2016
>Well, Trump means good.. I mean he speaks for himself, but he suck Putin cock so much it's unnerving. Even I know Russia is no good. I also hate how many stormfags he's attracted.

Now, Enlightened 3 months in
>The New World Order is the only path forward for all of humanity. Trump will be the beginning of the end. I cannot knowingly support the Aspect of Chaos, Heket. I offer myself to Minerva, take me sweet mother of Secrets. Hillary will be a fine puppet, she has the experience and lack of empathy to rule a nation and bring this world and humanity forward. The annunaki are our enemy, humanity shall consume the stars. That's it, I am now a #shillforhill.

Heh, I love you guys. "Proper immigration control" isn't what's being proposed, and the trade deficit going down is an indication that the US dollar is weakening. People want to sell their cheap-ass shit, and we have the money to buy it. When/If it goes down, we've pretty much lost our economic position in the world.

seeing CTR shills trying their best to make themselves look like idiots on Cred Forums is funny as hell.

Over five years ago a co-worker told me he'd vote for Hillary if she ran, and I agreed.

>b-but she's criminal

This e-mail shit will go down like Bill's blowjob as a stupid waste of everyone's time.

Only thing I dislike about these memes, is that the SJW will be using them non-ironically

Stop shilling for Clinton or else

i hope your country gets partially invaded by soviets again

Please, facebook followers? CTR shills on one side, ten account having centipedes on the other, neither means a damn thing.

The only plus to her winning would be people realizing how shit of a president she truly is a year or two into office.

If she wins, her approval rating 3 years in will be 25-30%. Check em.

retards in this thread
>dur trump has no experience, someone whose been corrupt for decades will do better
>duh Trump can't handle presidency or foreign policy even though he's a multi-national businessman and owns 500 companies. That job doesn't carry any stress or responsibility at all.
>Phtttt I have some conflict with his personality so fuck his policies and plans
>buhhh this cherrypicked quote shows trump repeating himself complimenting his supporters while he thinks of the next issue to address

Kys shills, we've blown your stupid "arguments" out of the fucking water 1000 times over and you STILL use the same bullshit.

Well if yall want a war, Hillary's your girl.

Always attacks Russia when she can, destroy's countries, and gives weapons to "freedom fighters".

What gets you off more? Your wife fucking other darker men, or the destruction of you race? I presume it has more to do with the latter, as you are a Hillary voter after all.

>shill for the woman who supports ADL
>shill for the woman who's husband is dicking bimbos
>shill for the woman who supports Black Lives Matter
>shill for the woman who hates memes.

no, when i realized too many crossfags liked trump there must have been something illogical. i hate hillary, but vote for the devil you know.

I want to see Cred Forums's reaction if Hillary wins.

>A border wall is an expensive, useless fantasy.

It would be peanuts. It works for other countries. And if it wouldn't work, why do mexicans and the left bitch so much about the idea?

>It would also have zero effect on a trade deficit because Trump being president doesn't allow him to wave a magic wand and undo NAFTA.

All by itself, that's true, but having a red president, red congress, and new red SCOTUS justices makes it very possible.

>What change do you think Trump would actually be able to accomplish?

Maybe tariffs to keep the saudis from destroying domestic oil production every couple years, tax breaks for companies that hire domestic workers, penalties for companies that outsource labor or use H1Bs instead of training domestically.

>or simply because the Democrats would use the same blocking tactics the Republicans have used for the past decade.

If democrats filibusterer laws that in part serve to increase the bargaining power of the lower classes, that's just sad.

I've never seen any original Hillary memes.
It's all Cred Forums or Trump memes, but altered.

It's ridiculous how a campaign with millions to spend can't create a few decent memes by itself.

When she wins, her approvals will never go below 50% for the entirety of her eight years in office. Cap this post.

>implying russia has a better future

They already are a third world shithole.
Putins house of cards will crash way before germany or the US. No doubt about that.
Nothing about this shithole of a country is sustainable. Atleast we have a robust capitalist system that will cushion our fall.

Yo leafer, the only reason your bitch ass country exists is US militarism so how bout you step off our dick and let us sort this out ourselves.

I've yet to see you blow any argument

Cred Forums will delete itself

Not exactly kek.

>WE

Hillary is an evil woman. another soulless bureaucrat who helped engineer the current terrible state of affairs in America and round the world. The hillary shitposting increased on Cred Forums after the debate becuase they're in panic mode. I'm willing to bet most of these IPs are unique only going back about 7 days.

If I was American, it would be a no-contest. pic related

Trump all the way. I even bought an official trump hat.

He's tanked more companies than anything, more than half of his wealth is illusory and tied to marketing his shitty brand name. That's why he won't release his tax returns, it'd prove what a fraud he is.

I've yet to see you kick out all of your worthless niggers and arabs out of Sweden.

canada should cease existing

lol

Tens of thousands dead across libya and syria, and you call that a waste of time?

I want to maintain the status quo, not nuke the earth from orbit. In short, yes.

Mmmmn, I get on Cred Forums for posts like this. It's like watching somebody hit themselves with a hammer and get pissed at the guy next to them for doing it.

Nothing to do with her e-mails.

Why would they kick them out? Niggers and arabs are the only way Swedish women can reach an orgasm m8. That's why Swedish women are the biggest supporters of importing BBC's.

>he's still projecting his sexual fantasies on random people on the internet

War is coming either way, brother leaf.
With Russia or with Russia and Allies.

Why do they support Trump? Because they believe he is incapable.

It is clear Russia will not offer an open hand to the US no matter what. There is so much discord between the US and Russia in the cyberworld.

Russia funds all Far Right organizations including in The EU and US.

They have no care to ally themselves with the US. They will take advantage of the chaos.

So you want us to sit around like good little cucks while China rips us off, islamist fanatics hold us hostage with oil that financially aids terrorist groups, and let Iran menace our ships?

Get back to your cuck shed aka reddit you faggot. You're worse than a shill you're a flaming pussy. I can actually respect someone whoring themselves out for a few dollars. You on the other hand just genuinely like the taste of politician cock.

lol, no. Single-digit of his businesses have failed, and most of them were licensing ops. Trump Steaks, Trump Vodka, Trump Fragrance--these were literally licensing deals with other companies to produce products with Trump's brand name on them.

The claim that Trump has tanked major businesses is ridiculous, the closest he's gotten is Trump Casino in Atlantic City (he got out just before the massive collapse, props to him) and Trump Airlines, which was a bad idea to begin with.

It's a win win for me either way.

If Trump wins then we get to see the catacylsm of butthurt. Brexit 2.0x100.

It Hillary wins then finally the Amerifats on here have been well and truly humiliated and we can banter them off the board.

I didn't say anything about her fucking emails, I'm saying Hillary did so much more wrong than her fucking emails

Not that hosting top secret information on an illegal server in your bathroom in order to better avoid FOIA requests and disguise the illicit activity of your fake charity isn't horrible and blatantly felonious behavior in and of itself.

>Blaming George Dumbfuckya and Obama's problems on Hillary
...Is that desperation I hear?

The wall is fine, everything else is iffy

yeah, petty much

Here you can see that Trump is more popular and always was. Trump only has 1% more recent likes, while Hillary has pulled in more new likes, since the incredibly biased debate. And before you say anything, the mediator works for CNN, a Comcast company - a company that is heavily invested in Hillary's campaign. Hillary fans like to ignore these facts. Funny, considering they talked so much shit about "feeling the math" when Bernie lost. What a delusional bunch...

I wonder how many people have actually researched before making their choices. Trump might be guilty of fraud but Hillary has been investigated for murder, conspiracy, and corruption for decades. The latest FBI investigation is nothing new to her or her husband.

Also notice how discussion is being had on both sides. Half the members but twice the shit talking. Typical Hillary shills.

lol too funny.
In case you forgot... "you are the smart people."

Not just crossfags, but his lobby is 100% Zionist while Clintons is Globalist. We can only assume Zionists will appeal to Nationalist opinions for the next decade til Jewish Resistance dissipates

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>SoS hillary had more to do with that than POTUS

ctr get out

sage

Well, you lost those fat EU healthcare benefits in the Brexit.
>double lol

>Blowjob
the same as
>Compromising national security either due to incompetence at best and nefarious means at worst

>legitimately win

Bush stopped being president in 2009 you fucking idiot. And while Obama totally approved of Hillary's blatant sponsoring and training of islamic terrorists across the middle east to overthrow secular governments, that doesn't absolve her of the crime of actually fucking doing it. None the less, he should hang as well for his complicity.

"Feel the math" indeed.

But Hillary won, despite having under 100 people show up to all her rallies. Oh, and let's all just forget about that 40% margin of error found during the primaries. That's not important.

Or the fact that Hillary supporters would lock out Bernie supporters, when it was time to vote. I'm sure Hillary is winning fair and square! No corruption at all! :^)

>It would be peanuts.

Give me a figure. Trump still hasn't figured out one.

>It works for other countries.

Name one.

>And if it wouldn't work, why do mexicans and the left bitch so much about the idea?

But it isn't just Mexicans and the Left, it's pretty every person with a functioning brain. It has been so thoroughly debunked it's satire at this point. Even if we assumed you were correct, just because they don't want to either see a huge wall separate our countries or have to bare the expense of it doesn't make it somehow part of their nefarious agenda.

>All by itself, that's true, but having a red president, red congress, and new red SCOTUS justices makes it very possible.

Trump has never even had the support of a majority of the Republican establishment. He's insulted and attacked the Republicans in Congress. He won't have them to dictate terms to, and the Tea Party's complete tailspin and irrelevance has shown us that every 'outsider candidate' that's been elected has soon made themselves a joke and a pariah in the Congress. The bigger problem, SCOTUS is that you can't control them once they're on the court. Reagan learned that the hard way, you can't guarantee the person you've nominated will be your cat's paw.

Why would you seriously support Clinton?

>Well, you lost those fat EU healthcare benefits in the Brexit.

What did he mean by this?

No literally, what are you referring to?

I don't care. They are both bad candidates.

Why do people draw Hillary as Pepe when she openly stated that it's part of the racist alt-right? Why would her supporters defy her interests?

>meme brandishing
Autistic chimp posting

Why should I take the time to write out a lengthy response to absolute bullshit that gets posted here every day and debunked every time it gets posted when
1 you faggots never listen and just crawl deeper into your own retardation when proven wrong
2 your going to post it again in an hour.

This is your last (you) from me

Trump is a retard who doesn't know anything about geopolitics.

Shills attach themselves to anyone. They don't even care for their polices.

>Trump is a retard who doesn't know anything about geopolitics.

Who the hell gives a shit about Geopolitics?

Care to explain how Canada, part of the commonwealth exists because of you? Was it all the wars you joined in on late, or...?

>He emphatically gets off to my posts
You don't have to pretend to argue to get me to reply, if you want more cuckold fantasies just ask Justin :^D

Trump is basically reddit: the presidential candidate.

I'll be voting for HRC (swing state) and enjoying the meltdowns of r/thedonald Cred Forums invaders.

And they genuinely sold you the idea that Mrs. Clinton is experienced, competent and morally righteous in terms of geopolitics?

>Give me a figure.

Construction of the wall itself would be about ten billion give or take, assuming construction across the ENTIRE land border, which he actually did not propose. Trump hasn't given a specific number because that would also require knowing how much staffing would cost, if any land needs to be bought, what kind of sensors they're going to put in it, all of which would be fleshed out once it was actually agreed to build it at all. But even still, peanuts, compared to how much is spent on illegals every year.

you're thinking of bernie

Nice hot opinions

Because Hillary shills cannot into memes. They can only copy, never create.

Like Hillary. :^)

>0.2 yuan has been deposited in your account

The statement was that no one on facebook likes Trump and everyone is Pro-Hillary, which is objectively false.

>everyone on social media is a fake account
How do you cook anything in the oven if your whole room is layered with tinfoil, my dude?

>Name one
Israel

well, no shit. the ADL uses the internet too. they come on Cred Forums and see a bunch of skin heads posting pepe like the repressed dick-suckers they are.
>Cred Forums shitz brick
>all non-retards "u don't say?"
>good ol' memez foiled again by the white blight

One huge logic overstep is that Hillary's emails showed the bitch was in league with the Saudis. now, those towel heads might have the first world by the balls with oil, but they aren't fucking jews

>Maybe tariffs to keep the saudis from destroying domestic oil production every couple years

Hello Oil Crisis: Part 2! Look for five dollars at the pump to fill up and long lines to do so for no benefit. OPEC is a cartel and shouldn't exist, but Trump can't stop that anymore than Hillary could.

>tax breaks for companies that hire domestic workers

These already exist, and are exploited ruthlessly by companies who use it to ride tax free for a while and then as soon as the tax burden comes back they immediately move their operation overseas and leave unemployed people and empty factories. Unless you want to fundamentally change the way we deal with corporate entities in the United States, this won't change. And you'll never get a Congress to pass laws restricting free movement of capital or jobs to cheaper markets, especially not a Republican Congress.

>penalties for companies that outsource labor or use H1Bs instead of training domestically.

There is regulatory agency that exists with the teeth to make this anything other than a joke, and that's by design. If you wanted to make it stick you'd need tougher laws, and you'll never get them.

>If democrats filibusterer laws that in part serve to increase the bargaining power of the lower classes, that's just sad.

Republicans did it for the past two terms of Obama to the jubilant applause of their voters.

Why do you believe Russia will start a war? I think Russia likes to push the bounds a little, but doesn't want the full force of the world coming down on it.

overwhelmingly, most people who go online dont post, they just read. so at the very least, offering a rebuttal won't convince the retard youre arguing against but will influence the readers. it's still worth doing imho.

Not us: come fight Hillary Clinton here. last thread was kill after 100 replies

Import the rice, pay the price.

>Name one.

Israel

>But it isn't just Mexicans and the Left, it's pretty every person with a functioning brain.

Careful, don't want another "basket of deplorables" moment do you?

>It has been so thoroughly debunked it's satire at this point.

You can't "debunk" something that hasn't happened yet you fucking idiot. Also, even if we DID foot the whole bill, we would be saving money if it reduced illegal influx by even half.

>Trump has never even had the support of a majority of the Republican establishment.

He didn't during the primary. Now even El Rato has bent the knee. Reagan fucked up by picking wrong.

Americans who travel or work abroad, or who have family or property outside the US

It's always Canada. I think Trudeau must like shitposting on Cred Forums.

The only people that want Hillary to win are:

A. Stupid
B. Civil war now, like right now, this is why I voted for Obama twice in a row

Is it worth doing every single time someone says some dumb shit they've said 1000 times before and been wrong every time?

NATO is still in a cold war with them
>syria
>embargo over ukrainian crisis

it's not fucking mental gymnastics

fuck no, i hope she gets cancer and dies, or has a stroke or something that fucking evil cunt

Drumpf is a racist BIGOT!

He's going to isolate America and start WWIII!

He'll make America a puppet of Moscow!

A
FUCKING
LEAF

This desu

> Russia funds all Far Right organizations including in The EU and US.

So Russia is funding the parties who are actually trying to stop Europe from being flooded by non europeans and commit cultural suicide?

Really makes me think.

Hillary is such a shitty choice that makes Trump look like the correct one. Her history is evil nor less.

It's why he never gets anything serious done. Between shitposting here and going to photo shoots, he doesn't have time for government stuff.

So because I don't have a cuckold fetish that means I'm a shill? really made me think...

>I even bought an official trump hat.

The Level of commitment ive seen here is unparalleled

Where are you going to appropriate these funds from? Who is going to staff it and how will they be trained? What will you do with illegals who scale the wall? What will you do with the cost of all the illegals already over here?

>Israel
A country the size of Rhode Island that is essentially a collection of besieged city-states under constant attack both from outside and within. Is that what you want for our country?

Why are CTR/trolls making hillary pepes, that makes no sense.

C. anyone not a crossfaggot

i want the trumptard tears to flow

Trump's funny, but I don't want him to win. All he is is just the latest meme like brexit where all the uneducated people vote and fuck everything up a bit, not a massive problem but annoying enough.

>reddit candidate
I don't understand this meme, you are literally referring to Bernie Sanders.

Why shouldn't we work with Russia in Syria to destroy ISIS? This coldwar era mindset needs to go.

as for the annexation in the Ukraine, I don't have much of an opinion on that.

They are civil war right now?

How do you have the balls to call other people stupid kek

>Hello Oil Crisis: Part 2!

During the oil crisis our domestic production wasn't a shadow of what it is today. We have more than enough supply.

>These already exist, and are exploited ruthlessly by companies who use it to ride tax free for a while and then as soon as the tax burden comes back

Well, don't make them come back. Or, if that is too hard on federal tax revenue, just INCREASE taxes on international companies which outsource.

>And you'll never get a Congress to pass laws restricting free movement of capital or jobs to cheaper markets, especially not a Republican Congress.

Just like he wouldn't win the primary right?

>If you wanted to make it stick you'd need tougher laws, and you'll never get them.

We'll see

>Republicans did it for the past two terms of Obama to the jubilant applause of their voters.

Socialism isn't the answer and obamacare is already failing. And what exactly else did he try to pass which was knocked down? Other than gun grabber bullshit?

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Yeah but I'm still not going to vote for her.

They probably triggered by pepe so they testing if they can trigger us with their shitty-memes.

>don't have a cuckold fetish
Was that a freudian slip? I only ask because you are Canadian.

I'm not even a Hillary supporter, and I've made that clear from my first reply. I think she's a criminal and a claw-fingered Mandarin, but that she's at least competent. Trump is a joke, and he's always been a joke. The fact that some people are too stupid to realize the joke is just a sad commentary on the American electorate.

> meme like brexit

You lost, get over it.

>Where are you going to appropriate these funds from? Who is going to staff it and how will they be trained?

To be decided.

>What will you do with illegals who scale the wall?

Send them back and send a bill to mexico city.

>What will you do with the cost of all the illegals already over here?

Bus them back

>competent
She very competently leaked thousands of emails and compromised national security, yes.

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I've been thinking today that I almost want Hillary to win and then the scandals just keep piling up and she gets impeached petty quickly, and every stupid fuck who voted for her is embarrassed by it.

She can't keep getting away with this.

Probably the EHIC

But that doesn't relate at all to the EU so it's still retarded

After her failure as president, women as a group will face a lot of scorn.

It's the other way around, actually.

Because you're a shill, you are a cuck. You like cuck because you are a shill. You wouldn't be self-destructive if you had any self worth. You wouldn't feel guilty if you had nothing to be guilty of.

You're also samefagging a lot. Are you trying to convince others or yourself? Because this thread started as a circle jerk but got invaded by people that disagree. Do the opposing opinions offend you? Good. Then now is your chance to explain why we should bow to your majesty, Queen of Pigs, Hillary.

>inb4 her victory is inevitable
With how many people disagree, I doubt that. Even if the system is rigged and she wins, this could result in a civil war. People aren't cucked like you, leafy. So while you personally enjoy watching your boyfriend get railed in the backseat by some Chad, we'll have no part of your dark deviancy, thanks.

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At first I cared about who would win but as this whole election has gone on it has just got crazier and just plain weird, this is an election that will be taught in schools in the future.

To summarize this whole election has just been a shitstorm of memes and childish banter never before seen, anyone outside looking at our political system sees nothing but shit, this would never be acceptable anywhere else in the world

It's been a crazy ride and I'm glad yet saddened at the same time that it will soon come to an end.

The only reason hillary isn't in federal fuck me in the ass prison is that she claims to be so inept that she didn't understand what a classified document was. And we only know about all the shady shit she's done because of how completely horrible she was at hiding any of it. You want a joke? How about restarting the cold war because someone hacked your email and revealed that you're a fucking traitor.

you got it all wrong. the Ruskies are backing Assad's govt. they are even advocating for him against Western and Middle Eastern pressure.

russia is also trying to side sweep the the Balkan, and Turkey. heck, Turkey wants to join the EU for trade benefit, but russia can't have any of that.
>welcome to Cold War 2, comrade

>but that she's at least competent
No, she fucking ISN'T you retard, she was the worst secretary of state we've had in fifty fucking years, she completely fucked everything in the Middle East, LITERALLY slept on the job, and brought Russian relations back to Cold-War levels

What did she do right, name me a single thing that didn't go to ABSOLUTE SHIT while HRC was Secretary of State?

And what about her time in Congress, did you forget that she voted for EVERY stupid fucking war we fought for her ENTIRE time in office?

She's a warmongering corrupt psychopath and she fucks EVERYTHING up except funneling more money into her own pockets. She is not competent and she is not a proven politician and she is not good at her job, she is corrupt and bribes her way into support, that and her husband are why she has a political career.

is this copypasta or do people this autistic actually exist

>I even bought an official trump hat.
>The Level of commitment ive seen here is unparalleled

I was unable to buy it off the official trump site because there is no international shipping and buying one counts as a campaign contribution which is illegal if you aren't an American.

I had to buy it off the American ebay for like $40 + $20 shipping to England. came in a golden trump store bag with some bumper stickers.

Things like that shouldn't be voted on by the public.

It wasn't controversial at all with people who knew what they were doing with almost everyone agreeing it was retarded, but it didn't matter.

You would have to be a complete idiot to think you could make better decisions than leading economists with years of experience, and you would have to believe that to leave.

No.

I'm real. Feel free to save and post later. You're welcome.

He's trying to rile people to reply with cuckold fantasies, it's how he gets his rocks off.

>she's at least competent

What did Hillary do that wasn't a fucking failure?

Well she got filthy fucking rich with her fake charity

No

If the world were run by economists every country would be a free market minarchy. You aren't down for that Bonglander, you need your NHS run by other peoples' stolen money, so don't bitch about Brexit.

A nation's sovereignty is more important than a couple of trade deals.

>tfw no 1990s Hillary to put niggers in their place

>money is the only thing that matters in the world
nice try kike

I hope she dies

> Guy has billions in real estate and other products.
> Not competent.

>i'm so educated because i wanted to remain a part of a european wide legislative body that we pay more into than we get back and have unelected bureaucrat eurotrash tell us how to live.

I bet you're under 25 years old and live in London or a metro area with a population of 100,000+

you cookie cutter globalists are all the same.

>Well, don't make them come back.

They've never left. Their 'corporate offices' are here, their 'headquarters' is in a tax haven and their factories are in some random third-world shit hole with no labor laws. That is the nature of multi-national corporations. If Trump weren't just pretending to be a businessman he'd know that already, and has probably profited from it without even realizing it. At worst he's entirely aware and all his tough talk is just as hollow and calculating as Hillary's pandering to the 'Fight for 15'.

>Just like he wouldn't win the primary right?

This is the second straight election cycle the Republicans gave a cast of idiots and freaks and this time the Republicans went with the most moronic freak they had on offer since taking the safe bet led to Obama going into his second term with a mandate.

>We'll see

No, we won't. Trump won't win. I'm not saying that because I'm hoping for it, I'm certain of it.

>Socialism isn't the answer and obamacare is already failing. And what exactly else did he try to pass which was knocked down? Other than gun grabber bullshit?

If Obamacare wasn't the answer, what was? The status quo of healthcare? Look, you can hate on 'socialism' all you want but Republicans never even tried to form compromise legislation or promote their own ideas, they just shut down the Congress and prevented anything from getting done, up to and including the basics of passing a budget and funding the entire government, just to make a political point that blew up in their faces.

>Things like that shouldn't be voted on by the public.
> Democracy only for the things that I agree with!
> The leading economists knew what was better
> Even through they didn't take into account the political factors of it

Haha, keep crying you globalist shill.

Congratulations for being the first based Canadian in this thread.

This.

Trump is funny and all but come on

I don't care anymore. Whoever wins, it is going to be hilarious.

This is not a pro-Hillary image board.

If you would like to go to a pro-Hillary community, please go to: tumblr.com/tagged/hillary-clinton

Thank you for your cooperation.

First post best post

>but that she's at least competent

"Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information."

>extremely careless

straight out of the FBI director James Comey's mouth.

>he doesn't know Trump ran for president in 2000

>Phony scam university
>branded hotels that have no connection to him
>steaks
>boring reality TV show

He is not some amazing entrepreneur, he only exists as a brand name, and for a long time he was just a marketing man for his own brand because the banks owned everything and paid him a stipend.

I'd honestly be ok with it. I'm kind of worried about the long term implications, but any republican president would be an existential threat to my family. Before obamacare my mother was paying upwards of 1200$ a month for health care which was a pretty extraordinary burden on my parents. Now most of it is paid for by the government.

There's no doubt that my parents would have gone broke or my mother would have quit recieving care in other circumstances.

Alright then, replace economists with NHS directors, small local non Jew businesses, councillors etc

Yep. And she will.

Stupid in that they're mindless and have no rational basis as to why they vote the way they do. There has also been a demographic of voters here in America that have rationally come to the conclusion that the only way to restore Civilization is to have a civil war, and as such they vote to speed up the inevitability of a civil war occurring because they believe that will come out of such a conflict as a victor, if not a successful survivor that will carry on after the weak have been separated from the gene pool. The reason I made the list the way I did was to be tongue-in-cheek as I think wanting a civil war to occur is nuts unless you don't give a damn about your fellow countrymen in which case only your own interests matter alone in spite of interacting with others whose interests being fulfilled fulfill your own interests, most (legitimate) voters in America will be voting for Trump in November if rally size is any indication, people here just don't care for a felon whose health is failing.

Same fagging this hard.
Kek

The US took sadam out and the middle east fell apart even more. Why should we take out Assad? I don't know the full context of assad and why the west wants him out.

I prob sound like a russian plant, but I literally just don't get a lot of it.

>worst secretary of state
She's not even as bad as Kissinger.

haha

>Not noticing different ID's
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the people shilling for remain were all yuppies, globalist leaders, occupied media like the BBC, bankers and bureaucrats.

none of those people helped build this great nation. the butcher, the baker, the barber, the average joe. those were the guys who wanted it. and we won against all odds and against a huge media smear campaign.

stay in your city bubble cuckboy. and enjoy the last few years of having an EU passport.

90 percent had no idea at all what was going on, and about 99 percent didn't have a proper understanding. If everyone knowledgeable recommended leave, or it was 50 50 id probably vote leave, but they didn't. Let's be realistic, nothing is going to happen apart from everything getting more expensive.

youtube.com/watch?v=TC3tINgWfQE&t=1m3s this one explains it well

She voted for every war that a majority of the Congress voted for, and had broad support of the American public (including Donald Trump).

And she didn't cause the American-Russian relations to go back to Cold War levels, that was entirely our own fault since the fall of the Soviet Union. NATO-expansion was a mistake, and it's the main cause of our current relations, it's not helped by the fact Russia is run by a criminal oligarch.

>Their 'corporate offices' are here, their 'headquarters' is in a tax haven and their factories are in some random third-world shit hole with no labor laws. That is the nature of multi-national corporations.

Nobody is arguing against this. I'm saying tax these companies in particular to pressure them to not do this.

>This is the second straight election cycle the Republicans gave a cast of idiots and freaks and this time the Republicans went with the most moronic freak they had on offer since taking the safe bet led to Obama going into his second term with a mandate.

The GOP fought tooth and nail against it, but unlike the DNC they weren't willing to literally rig it. The reason Trump won the primary is the same reason he's going to win the election: everyone knows that Clinton is a murderous traitor and they're tired of being fucked in the ass by decades of globalist leaders.

>If Obamacare wasn't the answer, what was? The status quo of healthcare?

We're basically still at the status quo, just now the feds spent a bunch of money trying to run a competing service that's gone belly up already. You want to drive down medical prices? Start with tort reform.

The quality of shill posts is absolute shit.

The good news is, there is plenty of it.

Right now we're against Assad because of human rights abuses that aren't our job to fix and also didn't actually happen.

Fuck, at least with Iraq Saddam broke a UN agreement

> the butcher, the baker, the barber,

That sounds like small businesses which did infact want to stay. The NHS wanted to stay and I'd say that's one of the best things about the UK.

I'd much rather team up with Russia to destroy ISIS than worry/ or care about some human rights BS from Assad.

>various successful businesses
>very successful television career
>best-selling author
Where does the "hurr, hes dumb" shit come from? You can't really be that petty to throw around insults just because you don't agree with his politics, right?

it all comes down to simple logik comrade. December 25, 1991, the Soviet flag comes down for the last time and the world assumes that russia is a changed country. wrong!
the 1991 Soviet coup d'état was headed of by Soviet Union against the Russian SFSR - basic history. what does the Soviet Union and Putin have in common? KGB. Putin is ex KGB, and i suspect the bastard was a turncoat.
he played his cards right, and ended up abandoning the cause second day of the coup.
fast forward to now. so are the soviets are gone? yes. but has russia changed its initial goals? no. the coup was a structural change, and nothing more. russia although ideologically more aligned with the west still is an opponent. NATO still has a strong foothold in the middle east - Arabia is a huge ally.
But there is more to the story.
After the coup failed, Russia sank in to further economic decline. it's satellite states (Ukraine, the Russian Federation, Belarus, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan) got kicked out from under it. by then russian economy was parasitic on those puppet nations. now, with the EU, those economies will be pulled away. The EU will solidify the Balkans, and it already is in the middle east.
>tl;dr: russia is under massive economic threat

No I would rather be the last person in a human centipede than vote for Hillary. I would rather post my real home address on Cred Forums than vote for Hillary. I'd rather become a furry than vote for Hillary. I'd rather cut off my fingers and shove it down my eye holes than vote for Hillary. I'd rather spill out my own guts and eat them than vote for Hillary. I'd rather suck my own dick than vote for Hillary. I'd rather jump on a floor of legos than for for Hillary. I'd rather....

Yep. only uneducated plebs are voting for trump.

Plus a trump presidency will just be a standard republican presidency. Waste four years pretending to fight abortion etc.

> Let's be realistic, nothing is going to happen

...apart from the UK receiving freedom to make policies according to the wishes of their people

Fixed that to you. Sorry you really missed being cucked by Merkel for a few tips, but your compatriots don't feel this way.

>Nobody is arguing against this. I'm saying tax these companies in particular to pressure them to not do this.

You will never see a tax bill pass that levies from corporations, even as a penalty for employing illegals. The system is rigged, and for both parties, Trump can't change this anymore than Hillary can in office. The sad thing is neither of them would want to, despite what they may say. Money talks and bullshit walks, and Cred Forums is bullshit and memes while corporations write checks. You think Trump is going to do what's best for America or best for himself? What would any businessman do?

>The reason Trump won the primary is the same reason he's going to win the election: everyone knows that Clinton is a murderous traitor and they're tired of being fucked in the ass by decades of globalist leaders.

I mean this pure rhetoric, you have no proof of this at all. I'd say you're right in the sense that the GOP voter base doesn't want establishment candidates anymore, but the broader American electorate will choose the establishment over someone who clearly doesn't know how to be president and would, by any measure, do a bad job and cause irreparable harm to our country's standing because of his ineptitude.

>You want to drive down medical prices? Start with tort reform.

This is such a ridiculous canard. There is not enough tort lawsuits in the world to make up the amount of gross profiteering within the healthcare industry. It is a sleazy cartel run by vultures and as long as its not better regulated, it will be continue to be a tumor sucking the life out of the American economy and populace.

She'd probably have a lot more Cred Forums support

You guys are going to have a dudelmao meme leader too and its going to be a glorious end to western civilization

Agreed

Actually I'd rather just pull out entirely, let russia play in the sandbox if they want.

>complains about memes
>doesn't realize what site he's on

CTR pls go

you can argue the same about any vote ever dude. you can't implement an intelligence test to be able to vote, which would be the only thing to counter the made up problem that you've conjured up when people don't vote how you would like them to.

you're essentially advocating restricting voting rights to progress your own internationalist vision of how you want things to be. you leftists always make yourselves up to be the vanguards of tolerance but time and time again, you expose yourselves as tyrants who believe that the end always justifies the means.

>people vote for X, i don't like X so the system is broken.
>so what if we had to use unscrupulous tactics to achieve Y, the opposition supporting X deserve to lose. the system is fine the way it is.

Which is better than the standard democratic presidency: waste four years fighting the straight cis whites males.

>various successful businesses

Name one.

>very successful television career

He's on par with Tyra Banks. I don't think that makes him qualified to be a president, not in the least.

>best-selling author

His books were ghost-written, admittedly.

don't worry Kek, I see you

>fighting the straight cis white males

Why is that a problem for you?

>The NHS wanted to stay

the NHS isn't 1 person. some of the leftist bureaucrats at the top that run the NHS wanted to stay in the EU. but they don't speak for your family GP or anyone else. i know lots of nurses that voted out.

I love Cred Forums because amidst all the meme-noise-rubble there's random bursts of surprising intelligence.

I still want Trump to win because I'm voting for chaos, but I agree with your assessment.

Because I'm american white.

>straight cis white males

yes, lets fight against the builders of civilizations and the authors of liberty.

You think trump gives a fuck about getting MORE money? How does any of this get him more money? He's doing this because he's a fame whore. But that's good, it means he'll seek public approval.

>I mean this pure rhetoric, you have no proof of this at all

It's objective fact that hillary undermined Gadafi and Assad using islamic terrorists. It's objective fact that hillary leaked state secrets in a buffoonish attempt to disguise her other fraudulant activities. And everyone knows it.

>ut the broader American electorate will choose the establishment over someone who clearly doesn't know how to be president and would, by any measure, do a bad job and cause irreparable harm to our country's standing because of his ineptitude.

What the hell is it you actually think he would do? What's the worse he COULD do? I'll tell you, the worst he could do is get nothing done. And that would be a thousand times better than a hillary presidency.

>This is such a ridiculous canard. There is not enough tort lawsuits in the world to make up the amount of gross profiteering within the healthcare industry.

The lawsuits themselves are not what is driving the price up. It's the mere THREAT of a lawsuit. physicians routinely order costly specimen and imaging tests on the mere hint of a problem, or even without any real suspicion at all, just to cover their asses. It's bad for the patient, bad for their wallet, and bad for the healthcare industry. But if the stakes of liability weren't so insanely high, this would come down dramatically

That isn't going to change any laws being made in reality, it's not as if there going to be a sudden deportation is it, the price rise is immediately obvious though.

I wouldnt vote against something this uncontroversial if it didn't support my point it view. I put my self in the category of not knowing much about it due to lack of education /experience in the area.

I'm not left by UK standards instead of pol

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this is sarcasm right?

this is reality. thank you for sharing user.

LOOK AT THIS GET LOOK AT IT.

I hate white conservative family-based bullshit so yes. The social issues mean more to me that anything else

Now don't try to kid me man cub.

>What change do you think Trump would actually be able to accomplish?
If you genuinely think Trump won't be able to accomplish any of his political goals, what on earth are you so afraid of that you're willing to elect an incompetent corrupt warmonger with potentially grievous health issues as president to stop him?

Serious question because I genuinely don't understand.

People who like prepping bulls and taking it up the arse.

underrated

>I do. I don't want the world to be destroyed.
Then don't go for Hillary.

She literally started this mess.

but we'd loose politically. we need to be there to back Saudi Arabia - they're bastards, but they give us oil.

>being this new

>thinks only whites built civilizations

Trump is

>anti-choice
>believes the minimum wage is too high (but also too low sometimes)
>pro drug war (more so than hillary)
>trickle down economics
>doesnt believe in climate change
>thinks vaccines cause autism (hello epidemics when the president says to stop vaccinating your children or they'll get the autisms)
>speaks like a 4th grader
>gets baited more than anyone on Cred Forums i've ever seen
>economic strategy will only reward the rich, the middle class and lower class will barely see any change. the middle, a few thousand dollars, the lower class, a few hundred a year.
>anti science in general, basically replaces science with nationalism and capitalism
>an asshole in general

pence is a biblethumping asshat, and trump has said he wants to have the vice president do a lot of the work

furthermore the GOP themselves want shit like

>amend to the constitution that says a fetus is a person from the moment of conception
>bible study taught in private schools in a religious way
>repealing environmental laws
>allow businesses to deny gay couples service
>making large parts of
>make Christianity the national religion
>end federal funding for planned parenthood, even the ones that don't do abortions because fuck women
>cute food stamps, because the increasing amount of employees making minimum wage because businesses don't give a fuck need to get a second job to pay for food
>give ISP monopoly control without government intervention or regulation
>replace safe sex education with abstinence only (lol)

it's a shit show, i know all of this sounds great to Cred Forums, but it's all just shit to me. the only thing i really agree on are tariffs and banning refugees from dangerous muslim areas as well as making it easier for small businesses to do well.

80% fail in the first year, their taxes should be lower. what would also help would be single payer so they don't have to worry about insurance for their employees. i hate hill but i just can't vote trump, so i hope she wins.

The directors are far more important than the gps, and I can't find anything on the GPS opinions although theres no reason to expect them to leave.

We do not need the Saudis. They've been fucking us for decades. They fund islamic extremism, they modulate oil prices to kill our domestic production, and they bribe our politicians to let it happen. If there's any sandnigger nation we aught to have bulldozed, it's the FUCKING saudis.

>You think trump gives a fuck about getting MORE money? How does any of this get him more money? He's doing this because he's a fame whore. But that's good, it means he'll seek public approval.

I don't think he has remotely the fortune he claims, and not releasing his taxes is a big red flag for that. I think he's marketing himself and if, somehow, he won he'd have no problem with pay-for-play in the White House. The Clinton's never had a problem using the presidency to make money, I have no reason to think Trump wouldn't do the same, I just think he wouldn't be as skilled at it.

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It's objective fact that hillary undermined Gadafi and Assad using islamic terrorists.

Khadafi and Assad are brutal dictators, and giving money on the sneak tip to insurgents is something America's done for generations. Did we mean for it to get in the hands of ISIS? Probably not. But it does because no one in that region has clean hands, you're not going to find a group of killers to be your enforcers there who aren't crazy. That's the nature of the region.

>What the hell is it you actually think he would do? What's the worse he COULD do? I'll tell you, the worst he could do is get nothing done. And that would be a thousand times better than a hillary presidency

His words and threats can have an actual measurable impact on world events, and he's never said anything that didn't make things worse. He's inarticulate and boorish and those aren't qualities you need from the head of the world's superpower.

Only reason to want her to win is if you are an accelerationist and want shit to go downhill faster to quicker usher in the revolution

Mudhuts made of shit don't count, Jamal.

She is the chaos candidate, they say Trump is unpredictable but truthfully we have leagues more to fear from Mrs. Clinton. It would be exciting to see what hells she would raise forth for the American people.

If there is a boiling point to all this, Hillary would be the one to go beyond it.

> black intellectuals

Name a country that was never conquered by blacks. I'll give you a hint: Not Germany.

I'm as white as the average american.

i don't disagree. the US needs energy independence, but you leave out one thing
>big oil lobbyists
the make sure the US keeps its dick in the middle east's nasty AIDS bunghole. get rid of big oil, and you get rid of the need to even draw the middle east on maps.

Sure you are.

I want Hillary to win because she will provide more happenings.

I watched this, and to me it seems to be painting the US as the bad guy, not Russia. That everything going on currently is to enhance or sustain the US dollar and it's supremacy.

>Khadafi and Assad are brutal dictators,

In both cases claims against their regimes were at least in part fabricated. None the less, even the lies about them were preferable to the death and chaos that came about directly from their subversion.

>and giving money on the sneak tip to insurgents is something America's done for generations

well maybe we should fucking stop, and hang everyone who's done it?

>His words and threats can have an actual measurable impact on world events

Lets see what Trump and Hillary have done internationally over the last six months.

Trump went to mexico and discussed border security and trade negotiation

Hillary threw a fit over being exposed as a criminal and blamed russia for hacking despite the lack of proof they did

neither russia or the US are bad guis. countries look out for their own interests. the only aspect that makes russia bad it that they are in competition... which is honestly what global capitalism is about

I just realized that my ID has 'Spy' right at the front and I've been defending/advocating for Russia.

What the fuck.