It's time

It's time.

Seize the means of production.

Seize it. Seize it now.

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Not your personal army, you lazy fatfuck Karl.

Hold on just a minute, that sounds like a good idea but how about we just keep shitposting.

*yawn*

I dont get it. In a communist society the STATE dicates what to produce and not the people.
In a capitalist society the means of production is in the peoples hand. You can produce and sell whatever you want. In a communist society you cant. After all these years i still dont get what the point of communism is.

Why don't you just save up and BUY some means of production?

ok I'll put on my jetpack and fly over to ching chong land.

Worked well for Venezuela.

How exactly does one do this? I'm down, I am, but I require further direction.

>communist society
>state

you already fucked up

you mean the CIA snakeball?

Fuck that. Burn the mosques.

Welcome back Finnish comrade

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I don't want the means of production.

too bad "modern" commies are super pissed at the worker class because they didnt rise up in western civs but instead in russia (a shithole at the time, you know its true ruskies) and now they just try to replace the white worker class with brown parasites.

Useful idiot confirmed.

you should. don't you want to own the full fruit of your labour and liquidate the capitalist parasites?

No.

I want to go in, do my job, fuck off home, and have done with it.

>muh stateless free society will come some day
>our benevolent leader will step down, i promise you goys.
Fuck off, Communism is a failed shitshow, deal with it.

This is why communism just can't work, if you want a government, you have to have a physical place and territory that that government controls, but communism implies that there is no state. And that just messes with my head man.

>In a communist society the STATE dicates what to produce and not the people.
Nope
Read literally anything about communism outside Cred Forums

You cant have a functioning society without a basic form of goverment. No state at all means anarchism and not communism.

and capitalism gives you that?

china is not communist
north korea is not communist

It's a self-contradictory ideology. The idea is that the working class rises up against Capitalism and transitions into Socialism, what Marx believed to be a necessary median step between "oppression" and utopia (Communism.) The inherent problem with this is that Communism requires the people to innovate and produce for no gain to themselves. It is a dreamland where people would rather see everyone work for each other than expect a return on their labor, which is a natural human trait.

Seize the memes of production

capitalism is only winning because it's willing to genocide the most. pat yourself on the back.

Yes.

you don't have to lie to me friend, i'm on your side

OP said seize the means of production

you assumed something and i corrected you

Seize deez nuts.

Kill yourself

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_communism

you first

>Seize production
>can't fucking work this machine lol so government decides how all business is run instead of individuals
> government never makes a mess of things, expect does and millions die as usual when communism is used

What a great idea Marx was such a smart guy

this

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it also ignores corruption
which is an even bigger issue

you can do that under socialism too. with reduced working hours and better working conditions.

Not lying.

I work part time.

Management is blamed for all problems.

My pay is guaranteed based on time, not performance.

The company is secured by billions in national revenue, so my store facing temporary hardship is no problem at all.

If colleagues fuck up, it isn't my problem.

When my shift is over, I go home and work has no more impact on my life.

I do not want to be put in a position of significant financial uncertainty and personal responsibility.

how?

In capitalism the means of production are in the hands of a select few, often intertwining with the state or its powers.
Communism has no state. Socialism has a state but it doesn't inherently control the means of production unless it is in turn controlled by the workers.

how many welfare programs do you partake in to be able to survive on part time

>kill someone
>get away with it because there is no state that would persecute you

None, I just don't spend a lot of money and never have.

is this because of the german banks collapsing?
also, 1 POST FOR THIS ID

>Seize the means of production.
And then what?

fpbp

>Venezuela
>communist
wew lad

Nice strawman.

Establish the Socialist Republic of Earth

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Marx was a silly. He thieved from various artisans because he was poor as shit, called a realnigger like Bakunin a schoolboy and had boils on his asshole. Also, he couldn't lick the boots of a madman like Mazzini, alienated his man Engels after hitting him up for money while Engels was mourning the death of his mistress, and was generally a cunt of a person and a woefully unoriginal thinker.

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I agree he was a bit of an overrated figure. Still incredibly important in modern history. Engels and Trotsky were much better writers. But socialism has been around for thousands of years in one form or another.

Marx believed he was predicting the future, that's descriptive as in theory not prescriptive as in an ideology.

As we "industrialize" more wealth condenses in the hands of the few who control the factories that require fewer and fewer actual jobs. Technological progress and modern capitalism can't coexist. To counter this the major preoccupation of politicians is "job creation". Jobs for jobs sake, not for any real purpose or goal. Eventually almost all real wealth will be owned by very few people, what does the wealth even represent anymore then?

Marx is right that eventually we have to create some sort of cooperative system and a culture with common goals. Either we eventually cooperate or we eventually blow each other up.

>woefully unoriginal

funny. his logically explained ideas and dialectic materialism still exist.

how about progressing as a species. you know, things like curing cancer and genetic research? i mean gosh, how dare cuba come up with stem cell research and a vaccine for cander, right?

>Marx believed he was predicting the future, that's descriptive as in theory not prescriptive as in an ideology.

This. He actually said very little about what his idea of a socialist society was outside of Gotha, other than some vague ideas such as the abolition of private property (which wasn't a unique Marxist concept).

The modern fruits of technology can provide everyone's needs fairly easily. But capitalism creates artificial scarcity to keep people distracted, divided and impoverished

>Technological progress and modern capitalism can't coexist
Bullshit.

How cold does it get there in the winter?

>utopia
Marxism explicitly rejects utopian (idealist) socialism, like that of Owen and Fourier. Communism is materialist.