Imagine yourself on a cruise and the ship you are on is sinking. As lifeboats are put into the water, it is discovered that half of them are not seaworthy due to lax maintenance. One out of two sink as they are put into the water and its occupants swim back to the sinking cruise ship, desperately climbing back on board as everyone still on the cruise ship is panicking. You find yourself sitting on one of the lifeboats that actually works. However, a man wearing the uniform of a crew member points at you and yells at you. He is demanding that you get up out of your seat.
He says, "There aren't enough seats for everyone. Women and children first!"
You look over his shoulder and see a woman waiting for you to get up. You tell him to go fuck himself, and refuse to give up your seat. You assert that your life is just as valuable as hers and since you got to the seat first, the seat is rightfully yours. The man waves some of his fellow crew mates over to you and they forcefully remove you from the lifeboat. As soon as your seat becomes available, the women sits in it without hesitation.
The notion that she has priority to that seat has been ingrained into her since childhood. She feels entitled to that seat and whether or not your life is more valuable never even crosses her mind. The fact that you are a professor at an Ivy League university and one of the most renowned physicists currently living and she is just a house wife is irrelevant. She is a woman.
Where feminism is primarily focused on female supremacy, traditionalism is focused on female superiority. Traditionalism is the other feminism. It's the gynocentric, white knight voice on the conservative side of politics and it’s the reason the ship's crew pulled you from the lifeboat. Traditionalism is the assertion that your life is less valuable than a woman and that it is your duty to consider yourself disposable. It is the pedestalization of women.
Traditionalism means that men are given privileges and power in society and over women and children with the responsibility to lay down their life for the sake of same. Men are given power with the expectation of being responsible for the well-being of their charges. That you cannot appreciate this just shows you are unfit to be a man.
Sage.
Kevin Anderson
>he fell for the privilege maymay
Sebastian Evans
Not an argument.
Elijah Cox
Women are not weaker than men. Physical strength is only one attribute of many attributes. Emotional intelligence is another attribute and being able to use it to manipulate others effectively is a form of strength.
The fact that men have evolved into a state where they have larger muscles than women is actually evidence of women being able to dominate men. They dominate men by manipulating men into turning over the fruits of their labor to women and they accomplish this feat rather easily. Women have no need for muscles when they can just get a man to perform menial tasks for them. Your larger muscles are evidence of your forefathers having been emotionally dominated by a woman who manipulated him into volunteering to be her drone.
Allow me to put this concept into terms to which you can relate.
When you play a summoner in an RPG and you use your summoned creature to kill the enemies you encounter in the game environment while you hang back at a relatively safe distance, do you give credit for those kills to the creature you summoned? Of course not. You consider every creature your summoned creature killed for you your kill and you don't even question that you deserve the experience points. The summoned creature who actually did the killing for you is just a drone.
Getting a man to do something for her is as easy for a woman as it is for you to press the #3 key on your keyboard to summon a creature in an RPG. That isn't weakness. It is a very strong capability.
Traditional women are a very real danger to men.
Camden Stewart
>MGTOW stupidest shit ever.
if you're going your own way you just fucking do it. you don't create a support group.
Jeremiah Wilson
This is me going my own way.This is my lane.
Ayden Kelly
whatever more pusseh for me
Anthony Adams
D&C shill, sage this shit.
MGTOW is for numale cucks who can't handle their women or having a family.
Every white man with reasonable intelligence should be having 4-6 kids to offset the blackening diversity that is taking over right now. The USA will be like africa (white people ousted because of their skin color, genocided) if we do nothing.
Ayden Williams
The reason women get first place on the life boats is because real men are resourceful enough to make a raft.
Hudson Lee
>go your own way by doing things how I tell you to
hmm
David Powell
Support group looks to be a poor way of defining it. To the majority (from what little I know about it) of them it is more a community for discussion around the overall perspective.
Kayden Foster
>gets thrown off life barge to make room for woman >die It was my privilege.
Lincoln Howard
>MGTOW is for numale cucks who can't handle their women or having a family.
Correction. MGTOW is for numale cucks who never had any chances of getting a date in the first place.
Landon Edwards
Women are sociopathic.
Women seem to be emotionally adept at times because all the men around her want to fuck her. It's easy to manipulate people when they're attracted to you.
Women don't have empathy they have sympathy, and even that they mess up. Constantly feeling sympathy for the wrong people, like "refugees".
Women are also more likely to emotionally abuse/neglect their children than men are.
Why are you posting the same thing
Jeremiah Bailey
The situation will probably work itself out eventually. Most whites will die, the few will manage to flee in diaspora and become the new Jews over time.
Jason Richardson
>Women are sociopathic. >Women seem to be emotionally adept >Women don't have empathy
You figured out the essence of the female
Thomas Sanchez
>>Women are sociopathic. They are, men too. But usually a man that acts like a cunt gets put in his place >>Women seem to be emotionally adept Do you know what the word seem means? >>Women don't have empathy They have very little empathy.
Logan Evans
I date all the time. I own a bar and I'm very rich. Men Going Their Own Way is not celibacy. It is a statement of self-ownership, where a man preserves his own sovereignty above all else >youtube.com/watch?v=iSl7xmsJCqQ
Mason Cox
wtf I never thought about it like that wtf I hate women now
James Stewart
FACT: More than half of the anti-MGTOW shilling in such threads is in fact females
Look for cheap adhoms such as "hahaha loser!!! virgin!"
James Howard
>le neckbeard faec quality post my leaf friend
Thomas White
>The fact that men have evolved into a state where they have larger muscles than women is actually evidence of women being able to dominate men.
No, not at all. Men are physically stronger than women because women are highly specialized to bear and raise children. Men are specialized as providers to this end. Advanced societies arose around the fact that it became beneficial for dominant men to offer less dominant men the promise of marriage and chilldren, so long as they obeyed society's rules and produced for the common good. It is the ability of men TO provide that made our society even remotely possible, as dominant men saw this as a means of helping them attract and keep the most attractive women by aggregating the resources of lesser men. The exchange for all of this is that each man was in his own right the sovereign of his household, meaning a lesser man who otherwise might not reproduce at all in a state of nature suddenly has a woman and possibly children. You're blinded by the fact that modern society has snaked the privileges normally afforded to lesser men, but kept them saddled with all of the responsibilities.
>le RPG analogy
This isn't a game, dumbfuck. This is evolution, where everything has a place and a purpose. Women occupy an essential part of our survival as a species. That you can't grasp that men have power over women is likely just a projection of your own sociosexual ineptitude. But to be fair, what nominally passes as traditionalism today is exactly what you'd expect for the cucked right: all of the responsibilities, none of the privileges. All the same, since you're probably not swimming in pussy, if you can't see how what I've outlined above is actually to your benefit, then there's no helping you at this juncture.
Ayden Bailey
Doing it wrong, all those milf teachers so desperate for sex, hitting up students for it, time to have a harem of milf teachers along with a harem of house wives you service, they already have their meal tickets.
Aaron Sanders
No one said hate women although everyone probably hates being around your overweight cunt
Robert Evans
no u are the overweight cunt
Lincoln Nguyen
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Henry Roberts
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Lucas Reyes
>women going to Cred Forums >women being offended by men they were never interested in declaring they are no longer available Doubtful.
Evan Turner
The lifeboat thing is a myth. In all cases of disasters at sea, (With the notable exception of the Titanic.) it's pretty much every man for himself. If this ever happened to me, I'd throw the silly bitch in the sea, along with the prick who gave the order, and any kids who got in my way. Fuck em.
Jordan Price
>MGTOW >Its an "I'm too much of a beta nu-male to control a woman" thread
Elijah Diaz
Are you some kind of cuck? We don't hold that kind of power anymore, so why should we keep laying down our lives?
Jaxon Ward
And if you do "control" a woman, you go to prison. It's a catch 22.
Henry Clark
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Luke Moore
I'm telling you to fulfill your duties as a man, among which involve demanding what is rightfully yours and caring for it accordingly. If that's too much for you, then by all means pursue as much hedonism as you wish and leave nothing behind, as many failed men before you have done.
Jackson Morales
I'm not sure what you mean by that statement, but it has a whiff of autism.
Landon Foster
Lol no you don't unless you don't know how to control a woman without physical abuse. Try harder. You need to learn to control her mind.
Ethan Smith
fuck off pussy. that how we evolved and that's what works. muh life is as important so i'm going to run away from battle, let the women fight, muh life. more women is better for reproduction.
Jonathan Ramirez
Because he lives in a fantasy land where he's desperate to fulfill what his idea of a man is. He's DESPERATE to be seen a man, in his own eyes and everyone else's
>pursue as much hedonism Deflection
You are way too wound up in this to not be a completely lacking "man" yourself
Carter Sullivan
You're projecting. I'm invested in this because it's what's necessary for Western Civilization to survive. MGTOW is just the death throes of a dying culture. If that's what you want to represent, that's fine. If you want something different, more is required.
Nathan Myers
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Grayson Cooper
All people are sociopathic in that sense, dumbass. We all do what's best for us.
Nigga, everything we do is based on primal urges or some iteration thereof. Think evolutionary. Her eggs are valuable to her. She has to carry the offspring for 9 months, she invests the energy into raising them for the most part.
She acts unpredictable and stupid because you're acting like a pussy, and she's trying to figure out whether or not you're man enough to maintain your frame. If you handle HER stupid shit and act like a bitch because she's having a fit, how are you going to provide and handle other men and provide if shit gets rough?
Kevin Watson
>implying I wouldnt give up my seat to secure a life for the next generation.
why dont you stop being a pussy and fight for a better future instead of giving up?
Hunter Scott
We'll keep on fightin' on Cred Forums.
YOU are, making a difference
Josiah Gomez
We don't live in a virtuous society anymore. There is no male privilege, this is some made up stupid idiocy for the weaklings. It's literally just a meme.
Andrew Foster
>so why should we keep laying down our lives? It RARELY comes to that. Why even worry about it? You probably have bigger odds dying falling down the stairs or some shit than being chivalrous. That's the extreme though. I agree that you don't need to treat some random cunt any better than a random guy. Traditionalism doesn't make all that much sense in a feminist society, but most women would still rather you act like a traditional man to some extent. Not that you have to...
Andrew Green
>All people are sociopathic in that sense, dumbass. We all do what's best for us.
You couldn't even understand what I said.
Hey nigga, how about you go blow your nigga brains out ok, nigga.
Nice digits. Shame they're wasted by feigning indifference in a thread that's literally about social movements.
Tyler Brown
I just don't think you're a man
Noah Myers
>the only way you can maintain power over women is through financial dependency....there is only one thing they like more than cock...just ask Trump.
Gabriel Powell
I understood exactly what you said
>herf derf womenz are meanies
I swear to god, you guys are retarded. Pic related, just swap "the left" for "MGTOW"
Matthew Fisher
My heart will go on.
Jason Hughes
>maintain power over women Is that what they call not getting cucked?
Oliver Price
Well nigga we can't all be thankin like you
I doubt it
Jason Cook
>Two posts of shitty adhom, one of defending females' shittests
spotted the female lol
Evan Williams
>FACT: More than half of the anti-MGTOW shilling in such threads is in fact females >Fact
Are you sure about that? If so, you have to go back to elementary school.
Brody Turner
>MGTOW WTF I hate men now.
Elijah Morgan
>mgtow >red pilled
Call it the School of Diogenes and the Allegory of Plato's Cave.
Naming something with an autistic stem acronym, or a 90's flick made by mentally ill trannies is not a good way to brand something.
Nathaniel Peterson
>Traditionalism is the other feminism. It's the gynocentric, white knight voice on the conservative side of politics and it’s the reason the ship's crew pulled you from the lifeboat.
And yet the traditionalists spend less time talking about women than you do.
If MGTOW was real there wouldn't be any of these threads, no forums, no "personalities", no books.. because there's nothing to sell, and nothing to do.
If you're doing your own thing without women factoring in, that's it. The end of your journey. There's literally nothing else to it.
So where do these constant posts and pleas to follow you come from?
It's like if there was a "voluntary extinction movement" preaching suicide that just sat around and talked about how much life sucked. Just fucking do it you faggot, stop stalling.
David Smith
>good goy >don't get married >don't reproduce
Kevin Turner
You sir do not understand the evolution of sexes.
You absolutely do not understand the evolution of sexes.
Ayden Howard
this virgin beta garbage again
Levi Richardson
>And yet the traditionalists spend less time talking about women than you do.
The irony is that 80% of the women-related posts on this board are traditionalists whining how they can't find a christian virgin wife in that "sea of whores".
A MGTOW thread pops up once in a while because people tend to plug it into a lot of discussions anyway so why not have a thread as well. It's a good place to discuss the philosophy in it, or was at least, before it started getting swarmed by females and males who're so deep into their inferiority complexes that they need to come in a thread on an imageboard and post adhoms to reassure they're """alpha"""
I agree tho, you shouldn't make threads like this OP, keep it to yourself and optionally post a reply or two if you find a related topic, else you come out as someone who seeks validation for his movement
Grayson Powell
You know this was a pretty based post.
Angel Harris
OP you are a fool and I'm tired of your shit.
James Nguyen
>The irony is that 80% of the women-related posts on this board are traditionalists whining how they can't find a christian virgin wife in that "sea of whores".
Or /r9k/ crossposters. Or MGTOW people. Pretty much the same group.
>A MGTOW thread pops up once in a while
Literally every single day, multiple times a day.
> It's a good place to discuss the philosophy in it
Pray tell what more there is to the philosophy? It begins and dies in the doing. If you are not doing, if you're simply concern trolling or whining about women, you are everything you claim not to be.
> else you come out as someone who seeks validation for his movement
How the fuck is it or could it conceivably be a movement?
The only thing that explains the forums and support networks and constant fucking whining about women in them - rather than positive talk about what you're doing that's not related to women - is that it all boils down to sour grapes on the part of the "MGTOW". For whatever reason, none of which I care about.
