Why is Cred Forums so right wing? I'm not asking why any of you individually is right wing...

>why aren't there more socialists and shit on here
Seems you are looking for r/SandersForPresident

Yeah I'm a national socialist

but more nationalist and it's a socialism of duty like archive.is/7CUMq, not cuck socialism

>politically incorrect
How is socialism politically incorrect? Every millenial I know hates capitalism.

They cannot tolerate evidence that demonstrates that their faith is a delusion. Without censorship by authorities, their ideas cannot compete.

They seem to get butthurt easily and prefer their self-superior tree forts.

Most are not very engaging to talk to if you haven't read all the philosophical books they have and want to write in tl;dr posts about how obviously correct their ideas are.

it wasnt always

but you know how things here shift and all contrary to what is popular at the moment

Try enforcing that opinion without legal hegemony.

Like proclaiming how intellectual they are from editorial pages or r/politics

>i'm a nazi lol xddd

When refering to things like race liberals get far more offended. Also since the media is extremelly left biased it's harder to express conservative opinions.

*mainstream media

You have no idea what you're talking about, we used to have holohoax threads etc on Cred Forums before we forced moot to make this board

leftists get triggered easily

Edgy contrarianism + racism has been a cornerstone of Cred Forums culture since the site was founded. FWIW, it's gotten especially bad in the last few years as it spread to the oer boards then the rest of the internet.

Yes it was faggot

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Leftists don't like this place because there are facts and opinions displayed here that do not conform with their shitty warped sense of reality, thats why they have to stay on reddit

>Why is Cred Forums so right wing?

its not, fighting billionaire bankers,protecting our people and fighting for our rights is socialist.

racialised globalism is actually far right.

It used to be mostly natsocs with a bunch of other interesting groups

But in the past 4 years a bunch of fat middle-American kosher conservatives have flooded this place, dragging it down

I am a Socialist. I'm just a National Socialist.

Leftism doesn't stand up to scrutiny

dont you see the irony in saying things like this

not saying its a bad thing, but don't act like this place is any different from reddit or any of those other places in that regard. its still an echo chamber for 'right-wingers'. instead of your post getting downvoted you just get shat on for voicing anything other than what is deemed Cred Forums approved

Cred Forums is a crucible

Only the ideas that people are willing to argue voraciously are going to stay in the mix. If you don't have the fortitude to defend your arguments, you are the slag that is going to be skimmed off the top and discarded.

You will tire out.
You will stop trying.
You will move on to other places on the internet.
We won't.
We enjoy the struggle.
We enjoy the debate.
We enjoy the chaos.
We enjoy the confrontation.

Most Socialists don't.
Most leftists don't.
Because they both have become lazy at defending their arguments.

define "liberal" and "conservative."
the type of opinions Cred Forums expresses are not tolerated by (((them))). anywhere with freedom of speech is the same.

so? you don't get banned.

>against usury and capitalists
>ethnic socialist community
Tell me again why is Hitler "right winged"

I don't see any way to censor your post. The only thing that keeps your post here is its substance and the ability of your post to garner responses.

This format is more natural selection. Where as forums and Reddit-esque systems cull the non-compliant through artificial selection.

Cred Forums is pretty much united against what we could loosely call "cultural marxism". Since modern leftist politics is pretty much condensed cultural marxism, most of Cred Forums naturally falls into the right wing.

Anyone can post here and liberals have their arguments responded to... this place has a ton of shills who freely shill their employer's opinion even, on reddit or other places you are censored in some form or even banned (r/politics)

any space that allows total free speech will eventually become right wing
leftism can only exist in highly moderated spaces because their beleifs are fundamentally based on lies
and truth is like a lion.
you don't need to defend it.
just set it free

also downboating makes your comment less visible. Cred Forums doesn't do that. you might get told to fuck off but you have as much of a voice as anyone.

They have /leftypol/

But most socialists left because a lot of their ideas are idealist rather than realist and supported a lot by feelings.
So once their feelings got offended, they left the board

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Sure it's an echo chamber but by and large one where people with differing opinions can stop and explain concisely why they disagree.

I sometimes stop into lefty threads out of curiosity, and it's always
>le sigh, well, read these 10 wikipedia pages first and watch 5 hours of documentaries and be sure to read most of these books and then you'll understand what I just said

Cred Forums is a left wing board

>liberal ideology
using subversion to hide the truth

>conservative ideology
the truth

hmm I wonder why there aren't more liberals... real make my sink...

I once got band from lefty/pol/ for making a thread explaining how leftism is fucking retarded

What gave you the impression Cred Forums was "conservative"

Fuck off back to The Daily Shoah

>echo chamber

You must not see the countless shitposts here every day. People are perfectly free to believe whatever they want. In the case of Cred Forums, which is generally completely uncensored and anything is allowed to be debated, people are generally more right wing.

I'm a socialist. I don't really post often because anything I have to contribute is immediately flamed as shilling or trolling.

What is cultural Marxism? Seen the term here but I don't know what it means.

>why aren't there more socialists and shit on here?
Because only reason and facts can survive here, not feelings.

Ideas that don't stand up to scrutiny don't thrive in Cred Forums since we don't have mods to banish criticism of them.

what does TDS have to do with conservatism? It a big meme over there

If you go to a liberal forum (this can be true even on Facebook) if you support Trump, they call you a racist immediately, regardless of what you say and they use that as an excuse to censor you in some way

that is Political Correctness , it's anti-Free Speech

Cred Forums is the opposite and you get all kinds of opinions, the weak ones die out, just like liberals would in the wild

>implying you have to troll a socialist to prove that they're stupid

>but why aren't there more socialists and shit on here?
Socialism doesn't stand up to logic.

It depends on bullying, shaming and silencing individuals to propagate itself.

In a forum where everyone is anonymous, socialism cannot survive scrutiny.

Such people constantly seek out opposing opinions. The other side blocks out opposing opinions. Question the narrative? Blocked.

JFC
that picture

Because it's the only political identity that is dangerous to have without anonymity. Simple no?

>FUCK OFF CTR SHILL >:'(

t. Aveverage pollack 'scrutinizing' an argument

First of all, welcome.

Secondly, if you're truly interested in the subject nothing beats googling it on your own. Plenty of material on the internet to inform you.

If you don't know where to start this video is a very good introduction:

youtube.com/watch?v=vrt6msZmU7Y

You come to pol as a hippy or a conservative or democrat socialist librarian what ever.... We all end up alt right because here we learn the truth.

Socialism is what most kids are into. Cred Forums is into whatever is the complete opposite of what most kids are into. Just like the rest of Cred Forums.

That's more SJW which is cultural marxist, which is a form of socialism yeah

Been here 3 years, still a bleeding heart lefty m8te

The CTR shill probably said something like

>DRUMPF BTFO

i just hate the whole 'right-wing' 'left-wing' thing anyway, it seems to be more of an american thing but i dont think politics is that black and white

i get that its just an easy identifier, but politics encompasses so much that i dont want to call myself one or the other

Only obvious shills, or more likely Cred Forums regulars ironically emulating shilling, tend to get called shills.

Cred Forums BTFO!!!

Lefty here. This board has gone dramatically downhill in the last 6 months with the huge influx from reddit, breitbart, and twitter. You used to be able to have pretty damn good debates but now you just get called a shill and meme'd on. Honestly it's not even worth posting here seriously anymore. I just make the occasional shitpost nowadays. It's not even that Cred Forums used to be good, it never was, but it's gotten a lot worse to the detriment of board quality. A lot less people are willing to engage in reasonable discussion. I would bet there are a lot of other lefties lurking, too, because it's a pretty fun board with a lot of fresh content. But s4s style memeposting and general group think seems to have won, and this place has become even more of a hugbox a la comments on breitbart where no one believes that any opinion contrary to their own has any merit, and only interacts with people who have similar opinions. It's highly anti-intellectual and really a loss for the website.

In the US the jews set up a false dichotomy so they could control both sides

Who wouldn't want masses of these people immigrating?

>he fell for the right wing/left wing meme

Socialists are delusional cultists.
This is why we are not an equivalent to them, why this is not a safe space, why a race realist can work well and hang out with nonwhites. We are realistic and accept reality, they need to be in step with The Herd even if The Herd is telling them that they are disgusting and evil.

If was told what was historically accurate, it actually comes from your parliament -- the rich conservatives sitting in the right wing and the working class liberals in the left.

I'm not big on it either, though. Doesn't have all that much meaning these days.

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A little bit of this picture related?

Cred Forums is inherently contrarian, libertarian, anarchistic, or a mix of those 3.

That is our modus operandi.
If you understand that, you'll quickly understand why the political board of this website supports Trump.

Oh, right.

Because it was socially acceptable to question the holocaust before 2012. How silly to think that stance was EVER contrarian.

>t. nu-male

Feel free to start arguing at any time, then.

OP is literally the most retarded person alive.

Did you realize, OP, that this place is an anonymous message board where people are free to post their opinion, free of consequences?
Don't you fail to realize that, in this kind of environment, the logical thing to happen is for the most logical "side" to take hold. It just so happens that "right-wingers" tend to hold views that are pragmatic and based on facts. Modern liberalism is all about "muh fee-fees" and thus gets ignored or flamed to hell.
If political correctness didn't have such a foothold in Western culture, right-wing ideologies would be much more prevalent.

apparently it came from france

Are you sure it is because you are a "socialist" or is it because of that flag that people think you're a troll? I think there is more outrage against shitposting ausies

>Why is Cred Forums so right wing? I'm not asking why any of you individually is right wing, but why aren't there more socialists and shit on here? Seems like it would be more interesting with more of a mix.

Cred Forums is the end result of mixing tens of thousands of people with different political ideologies together and arguing over them all for 5+ years.

And what do we have?

A quarter of Cred Forums is national socialist; a far cry from this "where are the socialists on here"

>Lefty here. This board has gone dramatically downhill in the last 6 months with the huge influx from reddit, breitbart, and twitter.
You're a newfag and your opinion doesn't matter.

This isn't Cred Forums's first rodeo. This shit happens every election.

US election season is always like this

Hey neat. I learned something new in a whining lefty thread!

So that is your reason for leaving? Having your opinion scrutinized, trolled even? Interesting

This. Federalist Papers were written anonymously for this reason.

Plus, the anonymity has the effect of dampening the influence of your own ego. You can hold one opinion, have it brutally challenged, and adjust your view accordingly without any damage to a persistent identity.

Hell, a lot of the "ironically" held views on Cred Forums are probably people testing the waters by playing devil's advocate.

>dont you see the irony in saying things like this
kek, dont you see the irony in saying things like this? Your post that goes against the common opinions held around here has now garnered more exposure than most other posts in the thread. Contrary to your dissenting opinion being shouted down or censored - it has been promoted!

More people have seen what you had to say than they would have otherwise.

Yet the irony of it escapes you.

Immigration isn't a core socialist issue. I'm more interested in the actual economics. I want to see thorough and total equality of opportunity.

I almost never see a leftist leaning comment that isn't either actively trying to aggravate Cred Forums or a shitpost. Where are the genuine attempts from the left to debate anything?

I'll tell you what mate. When I post something completely retarded, it's nice to know that, on the internet, nobody knows I'm a dog.

Obviously he means you get banned for sharing an opinion you shit cunt.

Could not have worded it better than myself

i see your point leaf but that post wasnt really of a political nature

See the post above you.

Equality of opportunity for whom? Who has been excluded and from what?

Cred Forums has literally become a nexus for Trump in a way that never happened in the past. Yes, Ron Paul was big but this wasn't THE PLACE to discuss him like it is for Trump.

my point exactly

selection bias

If you get banned its probably because you were being retarded...I have plenty of far right and/or trump supporter friends on facebook. Anecdotal evidence but its no less compelling than yalls

more like, I won't get fired from my job for discussing stuff here anonymously. And I just mean general stuff like politics, not "da jews are all ebil"

leddit ruined it, like it ruins everything. This time with an influx of ignorant conservative americans

Irrelevant.

There used to be tons of leftists here till they made their hugbox on leftypol.

Cred Forums used to be pretty diverse with lolberts, natsocs, leftists and Muslims. They all fucked off and the only ones really left here are lolberts and teenage Cred Forumstards.

Do you somehow think that changes anything?

Go start a thread saying people deserve a living wage, and make your arguments and assertions for it.

You won't be banned
You won't be censored or muted in any fashion
You will probably get so many replies the thread autosages

Because this place isn't actually an echo chamber.

socialism is theft you faggot.

"Being retarded" would, in your view, include supporting Trump.

>Why is Cred Forums so right wing?
Pic related.

>Yes, Ron Paul was big but this wasn't THE PLACE to discuss him like it is for Trump.
Because supporting Trump is much more contrarian than supporting Ron Paul is. There's never been a case of someone's car being vandalized for having a Ron Paul sticker on it.

Cred Forums hasn't changed. The candidacy itself has.
Furthermore Cred Forums will rapidly turn against Trump if (when) he's elected, just because that's the nature of the beast; to oppose authority.

If only they could be an enlightened and open minded person like you, unwilling to open the Quran or admit to racial differences.

Were neither left nor right were politically incorrect. All we do is fuck with everyone.

I was anarcho communist. I don't know how to describe myself anymore, but the mainstream doesn't allow anything outside of extreme PCism, which you are conflating with right-wing.

>or so I presume
No dipshit, being retarded includes targeting people, making threats...AGGRESSIVE shitposting.
I saw one dude get ousted from facebook in real time for doing just that, and even after all was said and done his facebook was down for only a few hours.

I doubt that many of the bible thumpers have bothered to read the Bible in its entirety, let alone any other holy book.

But haha u sure got me xd allah hu akbar

You just took the ultimate red pill
Cred Forums is literally what Cred Forums hates

>Cred Forums is contrarian meme

If you look at all the Cred Forumss across the internet and still think it isn't right wing then you're beyond help

This....so many don't see this

To be counter is not to assume any actual position.
Have fun being as reactionary as ever, Cred Forums

>i am not the only here

Because we don't want /leftypol/ cucks on our board. So get fucked

I'm not so sure that's all there is to it. Sure Trump lacks some qualities that Cred Forums has held in high regard, like doing something about the Federal Rejew, but many of the themes he came out with right at the first debate are ones that I've seen honestly lamented here for years. And he did it with the same kind of funny, ass-kicking style that makes Putin such a charmer for this crowd.

You're such a little shitsucker. We don't support Trump because we're contrarians, we support him because electing him is in our best interest.

Less taxes, No incredibly harmful politically correct bullshit, big trade changes, JOBS.

Fuck you, retard.

>For whom
For all children until the age of, say, 18. We're talking standardised education, living conditions, recreation etc.
>Who would be excluded
Adults fit to work would not be heavily supported by the state, but would still receive very basic access to healthcare, food, housing and training opportunities to ensure that they are able to (re)enter the workforce without having to worry about being sick, homeless or undereducated.
>But nobody would do anything!
Just because you won't die if you refuse to work doesn't mean there aren't plenty of other reasons to want to work. These include social stigma, the desire to better one's self and the freedom afforded by disposable income.

>I saw one dude get ousted from facebook
I'm not talking about Facebook (though it is sort of relevant because it can be censorious while allowing shit like "Assassinate Trump" to continue unaccosted), I'm talking about forums and subleddits which have political discussion, thereby being analogous to Cred Forums.

not irrelevant since i was specifically talking about posts of political nature

my point was that it is censorship in a different fashion. instead of gettin downvoted you get spammed with "cuck!" and "numale!" etc, thus conditioning everyone else who spends long enough here to follow suit to fit in

Because being right-wing *is* contrarian.
Additionally, libertarian attitudes are also labeled as being right wing.

I'm not saying that Cred Forums isn't right wing. But I will say you're fooling yourself if you think that's inherent and not reactionary.

It is because communism is accepted in the public sphere, while anyone who is right-wing and neither an Isreal fag or a leppo is labeled as a neo-nazi ruining their social lives. That's why Cred Forums is overwhelmingly right wing. It's for right wingers that do have something to lose by showing their beliefs outside of Cred Forums.

Usually don't like doing this since I think labeling yourself politically is stupid, but here you go.

AMA OP or Cred Forums

NatSocs are here,Newfag

>200k unique posters/day
>god knows how many lurkers
op is a fucking moron

>conflating
Nice word Reddit, your opinion is shit. Go home to mommy

>Because being right-wing *is* contrarian.

You latched on to the"contrarian" word like a little kid, you just can't let it go

So in for world view everyone is either a contrarian or not a contrarian and you'll just play semantics with that no matter what I say

KYS babby

Yeah, but you are actually a numale cuck weakling, so they're just being accurate.

You also made a shitty, poorly thought out post with barely anything to counter-argue.

You've bought into the same trickle-down economic rhetoric that Republicans have been shilling for the past 50 years.

Remember how well it worked for Bush? And how he reinvigorated the rust belt with it?

I think you're missing what I'm getting at. Entirely.

I'm looking more at the issue of why these values appeal to an anonymous forum, and what factors drive certain beliefs and values towards anonymity. There are plenty of candidates that support what you mentioned; why doesn't Cred Forums support them?

Non sequitur.

>standardised education
You have that.
>living conditions
You can't standardise living conditions because humans want to live how they please.
>standardised recreation
Sounds positively nightmarish.

>but would still receive very basic access to healthcare,
Why not full access?

HILLARY'S PARKINSON'S TREMORS CAUGHT ON CAMERA

>youtube.com/watch?v=925ihXI1lkE

>youtube.com/watch?v=925ihXI1lkE

>youtube.com/watch?v=925ihXI1lkE

haha

>So in for world view everyone is either a contrarian or not a contrarian and you'll just play semantics with that no matter what I say
No, it's an issue of what topics you can openly discuss without social repercussion.

The more a candidate's positions are considered "politically incorrect", the more inclined Cred Forums - Politically Incorrect is to support them.

I'm not saying anything bizarre here. I'm literally just stating the obvious.

The children of Cred Forums aren't right-wing fascists because they've sat down, studied the world, and came to the conclusion that right wing philosophy is the best...nope, they're right-wing fascists because they're uneducated, frustrated failures looking for scapegoats for both their own shortcomings and to help a world that's too complex for them to understand.

And, of course, because their peers who've gone on to college are left-leaning and they think it's edgy to be contrarian.

>I'm looking more at the issue of why these values appeal to an anonymous forum

The fact that it's an anonymous forum is irrelevant. That is painfully stupid logic.

>There are plenty of candidates that support what you mentioned; why doesn't Cred Forums support them?

Because none of them are serious candidates for election, you shitstain.

>trickle-down
Stopped reading there

Not an argument

Fair enough then.

Ironically enough, I am a dem and Hillary supporter. (inb4 shill inb4 ctr). I don't participate in liberal forums though, most liberals actually drive me up the fucking walls...including but not limited to SJWs.
I enjoy browsing pol because even given my own leanings I can see how being stuck in that does me no good...riffing here helps me sharpen my own skills while also offering insight into the very far right.

I have most certainly noticed an echo chamber effect though. At its worst, I must say this place is woefully out of touch.

The terms "left" and "right" mean next to nothing nowadays, you can thank modern American politics for that.

Hilary is not a leftist, and Trump is not right-wing. America's BS approach to anything more than a two-party election has caused this.

Ok. I will rephrase it:

>You've bought into the same horse and sparrow economic rhetoric that Republicans have been shilling for the past 100 years

Does that make you feel better about your decisions?

Do you not know how this board works?
Each post bumps a thread to the front page thus keeping it visible, even if the posts are garbage, its beneficial in its own way

You probably still don't get it. Sad!

Yes, I agree if that's all your saying. But just the fact that the media , universities etc censor conservative thought, making it 'politically incorrect' doesn't mean conservative thought doesn't exist independently of 'contrarianism'

Conservatives are by far the most PC on the political spectrum. They literally think a refusal to teach creationism garbage in science classes is an affront to "free speech". They get triggered by a "happy holidays". Mention that their god is a rapist god and they fly off the fucking handle (read the old testimate, YHWH is revels in child rape and murder). As bad as the left can be with political correctness the only reason the right exists is because of it.

how else will the dumdum masses align themselves

although its not like our system is any more democratic, even though there are more parties to vote for

I think you might be looking too much into it.

Cred Forums is still ultimately an anonymous outlet for fringe political opinions, and it's been a while since we've had a candidate run (at least since the internet has been around) that has been as divisive as Trump is.

Trump is aggressive thrives off of controversy, ergo, Cred Forums likes him.You're definitely right that there's more to it, but I still think this is the divining factor.

I can't tell if you're being serious. Or just being jewish (the whole scapegoat part...)

I'd claim the exact opposite: Cred Forumsacks are generally far more knowledgeable about the world than the average person. The reason for this is that the mainstream consensus is left-wing, and as such it doesn't take a lot of thinking to arrive at leftist opinions. However, the process through which one, especially young people, become right-wing, necessarily involves a lot of research.

tldr: Cred Forums is smarter than the average, because it takes intelligence to arrive at right wing opinions in today's leftist climate.

>Hillary supporter
How come?

>strawman 7th grader post

i prefer my theory

you are a very bad poster. very bad. very low energy.

>making it 'politically incorrect' doesn't mean conservative thought doesn't exist independently of 'contrarianism'
But Cred Forums isn't just "conservativism".

I don't like buying into the media's word games, but there are good and valid reasons why they've had to try and invent terms like "alt-right" to try and describe the politics of this place. Furthermore, it's the same reason why they paint it as being much more extreme or controversial than what standard conservatism supports.

It's not a matter of left or right. It's a matter of who's in control.

What you said is true, but I feel that this election in the United States has flipped this idea on its head a bit, especially with the contrarian outsider candidate being a moderate democrat, and the insider candidate is by all means a neocon. T

How many people have had their careers destroyed for saying "happy holidays"?

Cred Forums - politically incorrect
Political correctness is far left (marxism), so it's obvious Cred Forums is anything but that. But that doesn't mean Cred Forums is only right wing. There are a lot of classical liberals here, moderates (like me), conservatives and hen some naziboos etc.

Definitely a factor. But during Cred Forums's slower and more philosophical times, I've elicited unexpectedly heartfelt bouts of patriotism in the course of my work here. He is absolutely tapping into mass latent desires.

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>you shitstain.
Christ, aren't you just the angriest little scamp?

>The fact that it's an anonymous forum is irrelevant.
That has EVERYTHING to do with it. The fact that this place is Anonymous could not be more relevant.

Just briefly imagine for a moment what would happen if everything everyone posted here became associated with their real identities. This is crucial; you can't just call this irrelevant.

Because Cred Forums values free speech above everything else and right now the "left" wing is waging a full scale war on free speech.

You want Socialism? Listen to that harp faggot O'Reilly...

I'm a fantastic poster, the best. I'm gonna make a lot of posts and it's gonna be beautiful.

And I'm sure you would prefer your bad theory, you are the one who shit it out.

Republican fatshits invaded and ruined the place. All the rightists and leftists had to take highbrow metapolitical debates elsewhere

>But during Cred Forums's slower and more philosophical times, I've elicited unexpectedly heartfelt bouts of patriotism in the course of my work here.
I pin that more on it being election season than anything else. That's my assumption, at least.

Though you're still probably right, and I'm betting the introduction of flags has played a major role in it.

Look, just because the echo chamber argument fucking destroyed you lefties doesn't mean it applies here. You aren't being censored here and there are a ton of places on the internet for you to exercise your opinions publicly. Thanks to social justice assholes, there aren't many of those for the right.

The other reason is reality tends to be right leaning. Lies tend to be tools of the (((left))).

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>dodges one of my points because upset being called out

Dumbass.

>That has EVERYTHING to do with it.

No. All it does is allow for free speech, that does not mean everyone in this place will be contrarian or support contrarian things. That is your garbage logic.

Seriously, you're pretty fucking dumb.

Letting people keep more of their money is not trickle down

>Why is Cred Forums so right wing? I'm not asking why any of you individually is right wing, but why aren't there more socialists and shit on here? Seems like it would be more interesting with more of a mix.

socialists are collectivist bores

This place is for individuals who make chaos hives not ordered ones.

you're hallucinating
read what I wrote
I don't want socialism

Honest question, what does being a democrat mean to you? I used to be a registered democrat, but not this election.

Don't confuse American cuckservative trash for actual rightists. Rightists dislike and mock fat creationists as much as muslims

I'm talking pre-flag. I've been doing my thing on and off here since about halfway through the Doom Paul craze. High point for this mode of operation was probably 2012-2015 or so.

left wing, lets give it all away, mumhuh, cos dunno, i love dem gibsmidats, totally jewified

>more parties to vote for
>more democratic
Pick one Muhammad

you talk about jew brainwashing but in the same vein are a perfect tool for them

>MY side would never do anything like that

>>dodges one of my points because upset being called out
Because it wasn't worth addressing.

Cred Forums was still fervent for trump even before he was a serious contender, from the moment he said BUILD A WALL.

You don't know what you're talking about and you have selective memory, so I'm not going to entertain your wrong points.

>All it does is allow for free speech, that does not mean everyone in this place will be contrarian or support contrarian things.
Yes, it does, because it's a two-fold process where the more socially acceptable an opinion is, the more likely it'll be expressed publicly while less common opinions will be relegated to anonymous forums.

Free speech was designed to protect contrarian attitudes. This is intrinsic, and reflected in anonymity.

Been on Cred Forums for nearly a decade now.

There is no point posting left-wing shit, unless you want a torrent of "CTR/JIDF/SHITSKIN/etc" and your argument ignored.

The only way to get Cred Forums to discuss something outside of the echo chamber is to trigger people badly enough or leave huge flaws in your argument.

yes that was my point

When the right was in control and going full neocon, Cred Forums (or /new/ during its time) was in opposition to the power structure.

Now that the left is in control and has, for lack of a better term, gone full "White culture doesn't exist, we must import the third world, diversity is strength, all culture is equal, please fuck my wife Jamal"... Cred Forums is now unsurprisingly in opposition to the power structure.

It's really not that hard to figure out. The tide rolls in, the tide rolls out. The nationalism bit has been pretty steady throughout though, just various flavors. The world's window has been a little shook up lately as well, so who knows where the fuck we're all at.

You were implying that your system is more democratic because you're able to vote for more parties. But doesn't that have the inverse effect?

JIDF DETECTED

lel, those were the days. I remember I took a day off from work on that Israel's birthday or whatever just to be part of the endless torrent of detecting JIDF.

I think beacuse its user, Fuckbook is so god damned Leftist. Or should I say. Leftists post non stop about all the warm fuzzy feel good crap. Feminism, girls, gays, trannies, Mushy shit. If you post the contrary on facebook you'll have a torrent of shills and SJW's unfriending you or responding their their holier than thou attitude.

For Cred Forums is like the opposite. Where I can post my thoughts without causing massive social waves amongst people who know me.

By the same token, I'd say don't confuse SJW faggots with actual leftists, by the way.

> it takes intelligence to arrive at right wing opinions in today's leftist climate

Check out the top 15 states vs. the bottom 15 states, then take a guess how each state voted in the last few presidential elections:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_educational_attainment

Free speech = right wing(especially racist) views win out.
No one silencing politically incorrect facts because of feelings.

>Cred Forums was still fervent for trump even before he was a serious contender

No, only some were. The percentage has gone up wildly in the recent months. For example, I thought Trump had no chance and hardly cared about him a year ago, now I'm voting for him.

>Yes, it does

No, it doesn't. Majority of people here have been using Cred Forums for years and it's just their go-to forum for any subject.

Us "right wingers" aka "not alt right" "alt right" are the only people that can survive a board like this. We scared all the lefties away with facts, statistics, logic, and dank memes.

Lefties get triggered to easy to survive her for to long. They either convert, or rage quite and never come back.

The only lefties left are CTR shills.

I'm fairly liberal, but my side is so fucking stupid. The same fat-chicks I know who post shit from fat-acceptance tumblr's slam Trump about his skin color and now obesity constantly. It's mind-numbing.

>No, only some were
But the ones that were were borderline rabid and definitely the loudest. Had he run independent (and he certainly would have), he'd have at least the same size following as Ron Paul did.

>Majority of people here have been using Cred Forums for years and it's just their go-to forum for any subject.
Have you even seen how the people here discuss those subjects?

People don't wind up here because they heard this site was filled with high-quality thought provoking discussion. They come here because there was some topic or another that they couldn't discuss elsewhere because it was socially unacceptable or contrarian.

This is right in line with what LITERALLY WHO was discussing at the Con when he said that people who wind up here are made of "the right stuff".

Now look at the poorest 10 cities in America and look at which political party has been controlling them for the past 50 years...

The board is called 'Politically Incorrect' you tard. Unless you're a commie advocating eugenics and genocide you can hardly be non PC on the left

A lot of wealthy cities are liberal as fuck too. Sure there's Baltimore but then on the other hand there's Seattle. Don't cherry pick.

Well i can understand why newfags see it this way but if you would actually lurk a bit you would understand that this is bs

Hillary shills are up all night
Leafs are spouting shit without any source
Nigger tier posts are across all threads

I don't know what you want, except for a new echo chamber of your own belives you want it to be reddit 2.0 so you can circle jerk with other cucks but still be le ebin chinz browser

Kys you paki scum, hope india nukes your mudshit asses

Cred Forums is only right wing in the sense that it is nationalist. On economics, many on this board support socialism. Support for capitalism is in the minority.

>A lot of wealthy cities are liberal as fuck too.
Sure.

But the poorest cities are consistently democrat.

Although of course, the reason why they're poor is because they're full of niggers, not because its inhabitants have read Marx.

>But the ones that were were borderline rabid and definitely the loudest

Debatable, but even if true, that doesn't make a point.

>Had he run independent

This also isn't a point. People are supporting him now because he has a legitimate chance and is one of only two options.

What does it matter if in another multiverse pigs could fly?

>People don't wind up here because

I surf this place mostly to discuss videogames on Cred Forums, sometimes guns and military on /k/. Neither of which are socially unacceptable.

Maybe you're just a contrarian who is heavily projecting?

What the fuck man? That's racist. I'm sure Microsoft wants to put its flagship new research office in Baltimore.

Stop being such a hater.

Because leftists can't handle the bantz

underrated post

i have been here longer than i ever intended or wished to be, and i can assure you its probably longer than you.

only 'newfags' use that as an insult. spending so much time here isnt some kind of accolade, its a fucking waste of your life. your post reeks of someone who still browses Cred Forums so i don't even know why im replying

high simon

well said my friend i tip my fedora is your direction
*tip fedora*

because there is enough socialist left wing bullshit outside of Cred Forums

Because this is the right wing safe space of Cred Forums.

Because going against the current gets cartoon frogs on presidential campaigns.

See if only we weren't a right-wing hugbox, then they'd have to call it pepe the moderate frog. Many such mistakes!

how is using references a bad thing? it sounds like they're basically saying, "look, you don't seem to have enough information to understand my argument. here are some sources."

do you have something against reading/wathcing documentaries? do you not have time?

what's the big deal?

Broadmoor, the chinciest part of Seattle, is alway republican?

If you can't explain something in simple terms, you don't understand it well enough.

leftist ideologies are generally more authoritarian, and much more subversive. censorship and force are the two main tenants of any leftist system ,it is the only way they can gain a foothold politically.

Are you kidding? Ben Garrison, Moonman and now Pepe are finally free from normies.

Leftypol made a mistake when they co-opted Wojak instead of Pepe.

Oh I dunno. If you say so? That's just the voters there though, if true, not the people in charge.

I spent a few years devoting all my free time to research before I bumped into Cred Forums and found it to be a viable platform. I have nothing against that.

But there's a difference between posting a helpful sticky of references or whatever, and being able to discuss your ideology in general terms to the curious and unitiated. I probably wouldn't be posting on a fast-moving imageboard if I wanted to stop and let the thread die every time somebody told me the real answer is neoliberalanachrosyndalist-antimarxist-postmodern-bolivarism, and then can't even begin to explain what on earth that is supposed to mean.

>leftist ideologies are generally more authoritarian

you dont even know what 'leftist' means do you? be honest

unless it has a different history and meaning in your vocabulary

It's because we rip them apart in debate and they run off with their tails between their legs.

Because the left has gone full politically correct. I only vote right wing because I despise them. My political views are actually pretty liberal.

Well that is absolutely fucking retarded, user. Possibly the dumbest thing I'll read on here all evening.

Humor me for a moment; how did you end up here, and why did you stay?

And do you seriously not think it's indicative that you found yourself at home on a site that throughout is life had been a renown hive of degeneracy.

Simple really, censorship and thought policing is the greatest source of rethinking. For a long time conservatives held a majority and simply shouted out the liberal minority, confrontation without disproving creates revolt and muh moral high grounds against oppression.

Liberals rapidly grew till early 2k and as soon as the pendulum swang, they took it for granted, the new right wing is far more articulated and intellectual than prior. Thanks to the left and pc culture it allowed the right to prove their case, it's no longer an argument of morality but one of logic and liberals have turned the tables and attempt to use the moral high ground.

I've always firmly believed that the right ideal will be represented through some type of evidence, been far right since I was a young boy when my whole family was liberal, watching them get disproven, shunned, and belittled like they spent their entire lives doing gets my piggly wriggly dick moist. Keep it coming.

I am a libertarian. Am I a right wing by your standards?

See only newfags think calling someone newfag is insulting, newfag

Neo Cred Forums is tumblr shit no one goes there since 2014

It's true though. I'm still leftish at heart, but the whole thing has been taken over by crazies.

what is it that you like about the left?

Well I'm a non-SJW liberal too so I understand the problem, it's your solution that is retarded.

nigger do you care about the flak you receive for saying something on a fucking ANONYMOUS message board? you might look like a jackass but you don't know any of these people

Right wing Cred Forums is just a meme. Internet alt-politics are liberal, so Cred Forums isn't okay with that, they need to be ALT-alt-politics which is conservative.

But they've believed it for so long that it's taken hold in their mind, and now it's how they think.

Like how Cred Forums likes Sony, or Cred Forums likes DC comic movies, or /asp/ likes Roman Reigns, Cred Forums is all about counter-mainstream, and if counter-mainstream is mainstream then they become counter-counter-mainstream just to seem edgy and unique.

I guess I probably means something closer to classical libertarianism. More in common with libertarianism than what all this lefty mess is these days. Basically I'm all for a measure of charity provided that it is built on a basis of practical and pragmatic success and survival.

Do you mean my solution as in being an avid Trump supporter or what?

This is a pretty good answer actually, worthy of those trips.

wtf i'm a self-loathing open-borders cuck now

Because right wing is the new meme magic and trolling is the "cool thing to do"

That's why there's so many Trumpeteers. Even though people in real life wouldn't dare fly Trump flags or admit they're conservatives. They're mostly liberals in disguise.

Watch Cred Forums once Trump loses the election. He's a shit candidate who literally can only spout memes and people eat that shit up because it's "against the grain" of regular politics. Cred Forums will return to normal afterwards.

A lot of Bernie supporters also went Trump meme magic to protest Shillary.

>Do you mean my solution as in being an avid Trump supporter or what?
Yes, man, the idea that you're so mad at liberals for being PC that you'd just go as diametrically opposed as possible, and fuck all the actual issues? Jesus.

>Even though people in real life wouldn't dare fly Trump flags or admit they're conservatives.
Gloating faggot.

As a Black man who's intensely studied the historical condition of the African American people I'm highly convinced that conservative and libertarian principles, if adopted by my people, would drastically change our condition overnight. In addition, they are the only principles that will improve our condition. Also, the left has become everything they claim conservatives are : illogical, immoral, selfish and zealous. I don't see eye to eye with /pol on everything but at least free speech is still valued here.

Lol don't play dumb, leftists are the biggest pussies on this planet. They take offense to everything.

>I don't see eye to eye with /pol on everything
Well considering that many of them have a fundamental problem with what you are as a black person, I'd expect not.

No, that's not why at all. What Trump is is not what I had wanted or expected, but it turns out to be a sufficiently pragmatic identification of the most practical issues of immediate importance to check. The attack on political correctness is actually one of them, but that's more of a mass-psychoogical factor than one of immediate effect in terms of policy.

We're not going to have the extra breathing room to go beyond reactionary right wing stuff for much longer if we don't get the foundation back in order.

u kidding me?

Heard about it in passing. I stayed because it's a fast moving site and I won't get get banned for rightfully calling you a dumb cumguzzler.

Because Cred Forums started out as satire, then it attracted normies

you have reddit...

You know what I heard the other month is that you can these days get b& on /fit/ for saying nigger. This despite "nigger genetics" being a long-standing board meme.

That's pretty scary if true.

"You're a fucking huwite mail!"

I honestly hopped of the Trump train when he started shucking and jiving with those black pastors but now that he's a "mysoggyknees" I'm back on. All straight self respecting men MUST vote for Trump! You don't want to have a world where we can't speak the truth about women.

I don't get why the average black and white man hates each other (desu they probably don't). There's bigger ((fish)) to fry and ((bread)) to be baked in ovens.

...

It all boils down to this. Stormfront saw we were making racist jokes, and they ignorantly assumed we were real racists. This continued in earnest like a snowball, untill the old, mostly libertarian userbase of Cred Forums, was driven out.

>shucking and jiving with those black pastors
Saw a couple of intros by that really loud one, but I go to white people church so you'll have to forgive me if I thought it was a fun time to catch a glimpse of. Personally, the use of religion for politics on the whole is a turn-off, but I don't mind that sort of thing any more than I mind Trump letting Palin speak for an early endorsement and then fade back away.

This happened before Cred Forums on Cred Forums. I don't remember what year or anything but I remember suddenly realizing that all the nigger this nigger that was apparently serious when it wasn't before.

I remember raiding stormfront only to be confronted by people who were stone cold stupid, and who were completely taken up by our funny pictars, which, to them, meant we "got it."

If you want a mix, try Twitter.

>We scared all the lefties away with facts
Yes, because every image and post on this board are full of those. Cred Forumslacks couldn't properly distinguish the difference between fact and fiction, communism and other forms of totalitarianism, the actual cause of a problem and the perceived cause. The list goes on, continue living in your Trump bromance dream world.

wtf I love lefty logic now
where do I sign up for your newsletter and how do I get to bestchan for more angry spite?

Leftists are inherently politically correct

Lefties existed from 2004-2008 on Cred Forums, but they slowly started to break off and join reddit or move out of their parent's basements.

P.S. We scared all the Cred Forumslacks of /sci/ with actual facts whenever you shills start a global warming, flat earth thread.

>Lefty logic
Doesn't bother refuting the points.

Common sense is not right-wing, OP

We're trying to talk about the policies. He still refuses to answer the questions.

the mods here are shill faggots. i have seen so many lib threads get deleted, many of them my own, simply because Cred Forums was getting completely rekt and btfo

one thread after the debate was made by a trump supporter who realized how retarded he was after watching. it was getting replies and is then suddenly deleted by butthurt cuck shill mods. Cred Forums wouldn't stand a chance in a fair fight of any kind

Pol is the only place left where you're allowed to be right wing without being banned. Say hello to reddit for me, faggot.

I am unironically a Nazi. It's hard. :/

m.youtube.com/watch?v=FaCHBmGWcBc

Because we end up National Socialist.

>We scared all the Cred Forumslacks of /sci/
AND THEN WHAT

>Perceiving a problem that doesn't exist
Righty logic

The right was never in control in the last 50 years.

>alleging points that don't exist
Lefty logic

The democratic party has been completely usurped by globalist corruption.

Democratic party has become the party of war thanks to Obama, as well as the party of censorship.

Republicans, while not perfect, didn't succumb to the same degree of degredation. An outsider, in this case Donald J. Trump- is finally in a position to clean house and bring the 2 parties closer to the sane, America-first middleground.

>He still refuses to answer the questions.
>What question?
Righty logic

I am not a communist but your "infallible" argument is built upon the supposition that other social, political, and economic ideologies have not resulted in the deaths of others. I could easily swap out Lenin, Stalin et al with any number of leaders from other political ideologies (Sukarno, Hitler, Leopold 2, Tojo).

>Democratic party has become the party of war thanks to Obama

or maybe because your pov was so retarded that nobody wanted to debate you anymore?

>why aren't there more socialists and shit on here?
fuk socialists. socialism is a failure

>where do I sign up for your newsletter and how do I get to bestchan for more angry spite?
What are you Hillary or something?

It's not even a serious question, ass, and the whole thing was built on your assertion of establishing fact and fiction. Your response to this post will confirm or deny my original assertion about trying to talk to you people.

Concisely: achieving the socialist ideal of equality through cultural means by dismantling traditional power structures and replacing them with new power structures promoting "equality".

The socialist ideal of equality is not the equality of the classically liberal, but equality where, regardless of skill, merit, or deserving, all are equal in every measure in every situation. The tall are cut to match the short, the smart lobotomized to match the dull. Imagine a footrace where every participant is handcuffed to each other.

To be fair, bush was president when we warmongered the hardest in a long while.

I would suggest that Susan Rice, Samantha Power, Victoria Nuland, and Hillary Clinton have warmongered much harder even if it has not been through big shock and awe campaigns where they knock down some WTC towers and show you lots of footage of bombing the fuck out of irrelevant peoples.

they are in the main stream media.

>Why aren't there more socialists on here?
Because socialism isn't politically incorrect right now it's exemplary of a mainstream shit idea, and having even more shit opinions here doesn't make it more interesting, it just makes it more shit. I'm not saying they can't be here, I just don't think that they'd add anything interesting or worthwhile to a board where most of the discussions are already either rehashed hundreds if not thousands of times, just plain baiting, or trash that flagrantly violates the rules because mods are shit at their jobs.

It could also be said that your average socialist lefty is a coward who only feels secure voicing their opinion when they have the power to silence dissent and shut down criticism, or when they are already in a majority. None of those are the case here, so they don't show up for the most part. I'd wager that most of the socialist/communist threads or Hillary supporter threads are Poe's, at this point it's nearly impossible to distinguish between an honest Socialist and someone who's merely pretending to be retarded.

Cred Forums is inherently contrarian, like all of Cred Forums. Being a politics board however, they are politically contrarian. raging against the status quo in an attempt to rebel against conventional political beliefs.

But,basically, the world has gotten so fucked and so degenerate, that the only way to rebel is to try to be an upstanding conservative member of society.

>nearly impossible to distinguish between an honest Socialist and someone who's merely pretending to be retarded.
Dude so why don't you take it back?

We got them to say "cuckservative" twice on TV recently. Meanwhile it was belly-laughing fun to watch it self-destruct when everyone refused to explain the difference between democracy and socialism.

Gotta step up your game, mate.

t. David Brock

More like they were deleted because they were Cred Forums tier and made to troll.

>We got them to say "cuckservative" twice on TV recently.

What.

Lefties are too sensitive and too intolerant to willingly go to a place where they and their ideas and beliefs are subject to scrutiny and criticism.

>socialism
>right wing

2/10 bait apply yourself

That's only true for an extremely specific group of Americans.

This is a global board where "right wing" has almost nothing to do with wacky American creationists

This was a while back. One was Peggy Noonan (of all people) and I forget who the other one was. Months ago.

I call the past year or so "recently." All the reactions you're seeing today didn't pop out of nowhere.

Socialists are pretentious snobs and don't know how to have any fun.

you did it champ

>flat earth
It's a meme you fucking idiot

He's talking about the bush years

>it's real

HAHAHAHAHA. It's at 46 seconds.

youtube.com/watch?v=k0fzldPsgvo

>deleting threads and banning is scaring

They are all valueless shills so they hop in do their business then hop out. Never long enough to engage. Always on a very specific issue.

Well I guess you have to hand it to her that she recognized early on that there was something brewing.

The old newsmen are (national) socialists or lolbergtardarians. It's easier to glom onto the general American-style conservatism trend than to demand adherence to your specific brand of neo-reactionary national fascist traditional anarcho monarchism.

I view it as a contest between nationalism and globalist plutocracy.

>neo-reactionary national fascist traditional anarcho monarchism
oh ok I know what that means
>your specific brand of neo-reactionary national fascist traditional anarcho monarchism.
Now I REALLY know what that means

They were assimilated

Because most people with internet are white

Rest of the world hasn't been developed to such a degree since the birth of Cred Forums and it's oldfags who create content and newfags who lurk and spread them to all the corners of the web infecting millions like a zika virus, only more succesfull

Because pol, or anonymous, is contrarian. Leftist are in power so it is only logical to be anti-leftist

Because intelligent left-wingers such as myself get buzzworded to death any time retarded Trump supporters sperg out because their minuscule brains can't comprehend good arguments.

Because liberals don't need a containment board. Our views are acceptable everywhere.

Nigger. liberals can post here and you won't be banned. You'll just be laughed at.

NOT AN (((ECHO))) CHAMBER.

>intelligent left-wingers

> when your image goes so right

>Believes that I'm the one triggered
>Proceeds to call me an ass

>why are you guys all Bolsheviks
>why aren't there more anarcho fabian national Trotskyites here

I don't get it, man. They could string together 15 new refreshing names, but maybe it would be Trotskyite or some other form of Bolshevism.

Maybe it could be some other kind I've never heard of and it might seem like a good idea.

Left wingers are objectively wrong, so in a free speech environment nobody takes them seriously.

>maybe it would be Trotskyite or some other form of Bolshevism.

We should ask our visitors to teach us about this. What the fuck is the difference?

Because Cred Forums is an individualistic site, the only collectivistic thing here is the memes. Even if you're left-wing and care about free speech you end up sounding like Dave Rubin because you care about people being offended so you use half a fucking hour defending what you're about to say etc. right-wingers are the only free people, ergo this site, which is absolute freedom, is right-wing.

That's not the point. There will always be a dominant opinion theres nothing that can be done about that.

Cred Forums is different then all the other lefty infested shit holes, in that you can literally make a thread about anything related to politics here and it will get an equal amount of visibility as any other post. The only difference is the amount that people here want to discuss what you are talking about.

It's also to note that the majority of the 'extreme' right wing threads are satire.