Why did office's go from cubicals to open offices Cred Forums?

i live my entire life ironically

I worked in a cubicle for about a year but moved to a different position that's in an open environment. I don't love this new job much more, but going to my desk isn't as depressing as it used to be in that cubicle. I don't work with any of the people around me and don't give a fuck about anything but what I'm doing. A cubicle is a cell that you enter and it just does something to you over time that isn't good.

see I'm the opposite. I prefer a cubicle. I wish I had one. Fuck all my coworkers, just let me do my job and stay out of my way.

You seem like you belong on rebbit. The overwhelming majority of people here would pick the cubicle.

Cubitales was not ment to be used like that .. youtube.com/watch?v=RgDHifV62WI

cubicles look really comfy, tbcfhwyf

>japan

what?

>Fuck all my coworkers, just let me do my job and stay out of my way.

antisocial as always. this is why the gaijin will one day replace you

I barely talk to anyone in my area except for a few people who I go out for drinks with every now and then. 90% of the time my headphones are in. Thing is, my entire team is 2000 miles away so I don't have to interact at all with the people around me. It's just much nicer going to my desk and having a nice open area. I'm also not really that close to anyone. Prob like 10 ft away from anybody on all sides.

((((womyn friendly work space))))

if you gaijin replace me, there will be no Japan any more. You will just have niggers.

first the gaijin will replace you and then we will get guilt tripped into letting you walk all over us

its not all bad

I miss my cubicle so much. Prop my feet up in the desk and just work away without seeing anyone. I miss you cubie

Better question, what's with this standing desk fad? Help a non-office fag understand.

this is the true redpill

Is it true that in america grown men take toys with them and hang them up in their cubical?

It's the idea that standing with your joints locked for 9 hours a day is better for you than sitting.

bro if that pic is what you have thats paradise..north america is going towards open fuckn concept, pic related.

Office designs shift probably because it's cheaper to use those huge tables and bare minimum remodel a warehouse space than to buy a bunch of cubicle panels.

So someone crunched the numbers, found out they could save money by using this stuff instead, and they assembled a 'task force' to come up with the rationalization to make it palletable.

Corporate culture is bottom line -> rationalize -> repeat

Someone 20 years ago saved a couple grand a quarter and pushed some 'tiny houses are cozy' tier shit and now everyone moves toward that.

Has nothing to do with employee preferences.

I just noticed something.

>computer floor/lab/area
>no one is using dual monitors
All the fancy well lit space doesn't matter. They're still using hand saws to cut lumber.

To suit women

Men work best in isolation so they can concentrate and get the work done

Women need to socialise for at least half of their working day

Also, anyone who's ever shared an open office with Chinks and Curryniggers knows just how fucking awful it is. The sound of people eating with their mouths open and the stinky fuckin food they bring into the office. Fucking disgusting.

How am I supposed to browse Cred Forums at work in this situation?

I've never had a job where I'm busy all 8 hours of the day every day.

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but all the Japanese posters are gaijin. None of them are really Japanese.

Not sure but I'd bet its to keep an eye on employees and encourage collaboration. I just remember in one of my internships it made you very uncomfortable to even type loud, cough, much less talk to one of your teammates. In my job now I work in a cube and I get all kinds of shit done.

Open offices might be good for ADHD businesses like Buzzfeed and advertisement agencies. But working on something important with your head is a hell in those places. I don't want to see the eyes of the faggot in front of me when I view the top rows in an Excel sheet. Everyone is using their headphones and have a grumpy look on their faces.

Because they want everybody to work, not to fap and browse Cred Forums. And its the best way of supervising everybody, also you dont need to waste time to call them or to go to them ,you go directly, it spares time.

>also you dont need to waste time to call them or to go to them ,you go directly,
Yeah, and at the same time you distract the work of N^2 co-workers near the guy.

Stereotype is that Asians (especially Japanese and Koreans) are antisocial weeb video game addicts

trust me, if you wanna work, you will find a way to concentrate.

macfags cannot into dual monitor

this is the song that i love listening to when working
youtube.com/watch?v=NWxISwEBU0U

So glad I didn't fall for the business degree meme. Being a process engineer means I get my own office and can even close the door and ignore the entire world while I crunch numbers and design/tweak cool shit.

>work as security guard
>get to sit in a cozy shed for 12 hours doing anything to keep busy
literally the only thing I could ask for is more pay, but I get paid decently enough for the work I do

I can connect 2 external displays to my rMBP

Quite literally so cunts can chatter and waste time.
Roasties go crazy if they can't cluck with their fellow hens all day.

The union roasts at my job lobbied for a "talking area" where they could chatter while they did their work. They got it, and no work there ever gets done. Their stats are 1/5 the rest of the workfloor.

Being a junior process engineer means I get a desk on the open floor and spring up every hour to put on PPE and check some grimy part of the line.

And doodle cool shit in my notebook because they won't give me a copy of MATLAB or SW.

offices were just men, so back in the day it was acceptable to masturbate in your cubicle

holy fuck, the misery of an office job
what the fuck is wrong with people

but you don't

Whatever lets you sleep at night, fagboy.

>Quite literally so cunts can chatter and waste time.
>Roasties go crazy if they can't cluck with their fellow hens all day.
no, outist
grills also like some privacy for chitchat

Well, if you work in cubicle, you live there basically, so my guess is yes

The only woman in the office is disturbing someone, look at that. Imagine there were 50/50 sex ratio.

This. I bought ear plugs and have two monitors to block people out. It seems like all people do is jack off on their fucking (((Microsoft))) surfaces and stand around drinking coffee. Literally only half the people at my office do work

Depends entirely on the market sector. That kind of shit is very common in software. Less so elsewhere.

I dont because I have a 40" 4k display because dual monitors are pointless. Who the fuck wants black bars.

>HR 100% women
>Ppl q? why office no good for men

Because it's a far better system. I can't imagine working in a cubicle. How little self control would you need to require being shut in a 4'x4' space in order to do work? Insane.

@dankmemezone is planning to localize and broadcast the network within range.

HINT: It's a mobile luxury global trade route wifi hotspot.

Once connected to the dankmemezone you'll gain access to the dankest memes as well as the dankest meme tutorials.

The idea is that the world is your office is your playground is your yadda yadda.

Overseers

We must control every second of tyour wagie time

You're mind literally phases them out after about a week of using it, just like when you're driving you don't notice the bars separating the windshield from your door windows. You're brain fills in the rest, just like when you aren't aware that you can see you're own nose.

> Why did office's go from cubicals to open offices Cred Forums?

Cubicles take up more space. At my office they are moving everyone into open plan offices where you're nearly elbow to elbow with a colleague. Once this is in place they're going to lease out the entire remaining half of the building to another department.

I'd be amazed at this decision but I don't think anyone actually gives a shit about productivity in the public service. I have been with my department about 18 months and not once has productivity itself ever actually been articulated as a goal in and of itself. It's really quite bizarre.

To stop people jerking around....and jerking off.

Im sure the latter has absolutely zero influence on why you're asking this particular question.

Without most people working and paying tax where do you think money to pay NEETs would come from?

If you want to be a worthless loser, a complete waste of carbon, and a constant drain on your society that's fine - it's your life and if you want to spend it constantly broke and never knowing either the respect of your peers or the sense of accomplishment and self-sufficiency that comes with earning a living that's your choice, but there's no need to bite the hand that literally feeds you. If anything, a little gratitude and humility would be appropriate.

>2016
>Not being multilingual

...

>You're mind literally phases them out after about a week of using it
No it doesnt, I went from dual 22"s to a 40". The bars were annoying as fuck.

>public service
Why would productivity be their goal? They get money either way.

Not really. Departments can be massively downsized or folded. Work programs can be gutted and transferred to other departments. Private industry his held hostage to money but the public sector is held hostage to the whims of their minister, who can be even more capricious than market fluctuations.

Here in America thats not an insult. Speaking only English is seen as something good where I'm from, it shows that you haven't had to put up with beaners or worse, these fucking chinks. You wouldn't believe the look on some of the beaners faces when you don't help them with something because you don't understand their disgusting language. its hilarious.

Most people I know are addicted to video games, but don't you also play games with your friends?
Playing games is a social action

get on the ultrawide train senpai

Everyone got one at my place of slavery

Sometimes I pretend I can't understand English. Maybe not the same thing but it's funny

this is why i believe welfare should be cut off, it culls off the parasites, white people don't need welfare like that and have long survived without it.

Neets are usually genetic dead ends anyway.

If you get a job that has one you need to immediately buy an office chair or high stool

Actually no its not, look at studies. Most gamers are anti-social. Social people can't stand most video games because they are not interacting with friends in them. They crave attention just like any other typical extroverts.

Why the fuck would I want a 21:9 or some other faggy aspect ratio.

>place of slavery
I have the 40" at home

The magical money tree the money to googles come from

I feel ya.

Remember Cred Forums, every time you refuse to learn a new language. A globalist dies.

What about games like overwatch? I always play with friends. Maybe those studies didn't study games like this

stay cucked wagies

it's a new form of torture

before the employees felt caged

now they feel like they are always being watched

>Without most people working and paying tax where do you think money to pay NEETs would come from?

From the engorged bank accounts of the rich after we've killed them.

And people wonder why america is in debt

I fucking hate not having my own space

I once had a job that had multiple freelancers coming in and going and they'd just sit whereever and that was the thing. Everybody was just sitting every where

I don't mind open offices but I need my own space and it'd be fun to not have to sit next to a cunt or a guy that keeps asking "hey, what are you doing?"

Lel wait till you guys get introduced to the concept of shared desk spaces.

You're 100% right. You can play games socially, even single player ones if people are ok with watching and horseing around while you play.

Also, is that a fucking wall-to-wall carpet in the office? It's great for dampening noise but what if you stepped on dog shit and bring the shit to work and later that day your colleague drops his sandwich on the carpet, do you tell him or not?

Used to be able to fuck the office girl in one without making a scene but now everyone knows. Also you'd be called a rapist.

neat

Working just helps the big parasites though

So the Jew can monitor your productivity. They want to make sure you're earning your shekels, because it's so difficult for them to part with the shekels.

It's also conditioning to pervasive surveillance their cabal is implementing.

This would be terrible. How could anyone willingly sit in front of the same people within their view for 8 hours a day?

You would see the light gradually leave their eyes throughout the work day. Not cool at all.

I prefer open offices.

I sit right next to the head of the whole department, rather than having to knock on his door, excuse myself and ask a question,I can just tilt my chair back and yell at the fucker.

What do they even do? I've worked labour my entire life, I don't get the purpose of these jobs.

>be office drone wagecuck
>manager sends out production report emails every morning so people can keep track of their production
>constantly get nagged and called out if I'm barely below what we are supposed to produce
>rarely praised when I do more than what is expected of me
>the blacks and women and black women on the team never get called out despite routinely hitting only 50% of their production goals and are lavishly praised for just doing what they are supposed to do on the rare occasions they can manage that
Such is life as a fucking white male

>mfw my office is a car
>mfw I can just drive away from people bothering me at work

pic related

it's a measure to weed out people who aren't true normies but are instead just infiltrators wearing normie skin in order to make money

such fakers will become uncomfortable, unfriendly and unproductive in such an environment, and that's the key to identifying that they're not a team player and they won't in the end truly fit in and believe/spread the company's culture.

This. Former cubecuck here. Worked in tech in the late 90's/early 2000's doing various shit.. helpdesk, hardware, then windows sysadmin stuff etc. and yeah, its all about surveillance, social pressure and the crushing of individualism.

Its surprisingly easy to fuck off in a cubicle and especially so if you're friends with a few close co-workers whose cubes are nearby. We used to have duke nukem lan parties during slow times and often late after work to avoid the evening commute traffic out of San Jose.

You can also personalise a cubicle to a circus sideshow degree if you want to.. can't have any of that now, can we?

t. former wagecuck now semi-retired and NEET at 42

White-collar work used to:

1.) be actual work
2.) be performed by logical analytical men who needed space to think

now that most "work" these days has no real value to society and offices are full of hyper-social women and minorities, it makes sense to break down cubicles and allow these idiots to jerk each other off all day

>You wouldn't believe the look on some of the beaners faces when you don't help them with something because you don't understand their disgusting language. its hilarious.

Holy fuck, just did this toady.
>have to live home for a couple of months due to some medical shit
>got a good paying job at Margarita's
>today was my third day of training as a prep cook
>grubby little spic tells me super quickly what to do
>"AYYYOOoooyYYY MAYNE jU PUtta DA SaLSA IN WIF A HALF PINTO OF CREMA, Y JUAN TABLESPOON OF PEEPErrs..."
>ask him to repeat himself
>same drivel
>ok lol
>do it wrong
>"AYYY MAY WHY JU NO LEESTEN TO MEE"???
>"because your english is horrible and I can barely understand what you're saying"
>just stands there and mouthbreathes while looking at me

I work more efficiently alone anyway when he's not jumping on my back like its a border wall.

>tfw you see a linkedin profile of a woman these days
>literally just another facebook profile
>5000 word introduction
>they keep posting how they are "excited" about their newly built office

fucking hate the so much, glad my office is sexist as fuck.

Had a meeting recently with all senior managers

Not a single woman

feels good man

journalism

DAMMIT

those fuckers are making 50k for doing NOTHING

i need a job so fucking bad, why don't they just fire some of those lazy shits?

They are really nice for developing though.

must be nice

the moment you let one get their foot in the door, it's all over

the same thing applies to politics as well obviously

the only thing dual monitors are good for is if you're too lazy to manually resize windows and just want to maximize them

Why did they build a building in a building?

Lincoln lawyer pls go

You start being driven fucking insane in an open office.

You've done all your work. Leave early? Fuck you, you're clocked in for the full 8 hours, you're not allowed to leave early. Mess with your phone? No, because one of the supervisors who has nothing to fucking do will swan dive up your asshole about being unproductive.

The place I'm working at has the higher ups in their own private offices while our cubicles were slowly phased out. What do they do? They play Starcraft.

wtf nobody answered correctly: The Internet

> the ability to fuck around and waste company time pretty much indefinitely as long as your monitor is not view-able.

You know the things that happen when you use a website, computer, television, new car, cell phone, video game, or literally any other electronic device you can think of?

They tell the computer how to do those things.
Computers are VERY good at doing things quickly. The problem is that they are also dumb.
Almost everything in the modern world these days run by software, or at the more basic level firmware. The point is, code is telling these electronic devices what to do.
These guys write that.

>modern """""""""""""""""""""""humans"""""""""""""""""""""
>they're just soulless machines

top cuck

Because it would be racist/homophobic/misogynistic to get rid of unproductive workers.

They're also great for spreadsheet work.

[zalgo] Nigerian hive mind........ [/zalgo]

You and everyone else here is disgusting

I actually didn't mind that too much

But then again I was on loan to another section and was just visiting a sister office. It might be a bit different it was every day forever.

[zalgo] Nezperdian hive-mind [/zalgo]

%triforce

I'm in calls for like 5 hours a day explaining what our software does. I can't imagine that happening in an open office, since I start gesticulating all over the place and it's awkward enough with just one office mate.

bullshit

those people don't anything but generate useless reports and fill out spreadsheets

and they do it REALLY slowly so that no one sees they are capable of more and expects them to 'work' too hard in the future

they also get up and gossip or just walk around doing nothing 25% of the time

and they get breaks and paid lunch

You know what the funniest part is? I can understand a decent amount of Spanish from when I took it back in high school, and am able to pick up on when they're talking about me.

stupid fucking wetbacks lol

nah bro

you need two computers to maximize productivity

you don't have to use them both but you DO need two monitors (min)

>you need two computers to maximize productivity
I have a workstation too

Lab work is nice because your partners are just as antisocial and quiet as you are when they aren't discussing the research. Plus you can get independent research studies.

Comfy.

All filled with stupid shit like "marketing", "social media expert" and "communication".

you are going to be fired so quick

>true story

best start learning spanish bro

yo estoy muy seriouso hombre

I'm consistently around 4/60 in my office in terms of productivity and I get bitched at for taking even a minute to read something on my phone. I also lead my teams numbers to be about average. Seems like the one who stands out should be rewarded more handsomely but rarely is this the case.

>Neets are usually genetic dead ends anyway.

It all works itself out in the long run.

also you don't need as many shelves if you don't have papers and binders and books and whatnot. If you only need to account for a computer, you only need a table and a chair.

100% this, my coworkers blabbing on all sides of me and having to listen to their reactions as they accidentally delete files or yammer on the phone for hours to kill time until they hit their monthly overtime limit is like an atom bomb to my productivity,
i can unironically do ten times the amount of work in a day at home than I can in a day at the office.

2nd user is correct. you need two. One to be your reading/input monitor and one your writing/output monitor

> dat opinion
> dat flag

>you need two smaller screens than a bigger screen which is a higher resolution than the two combined
stay poor user

>fill out spreadsheets
It's even worse when they say that the job is too complicated to work faster

so fucking right.

All went to shit unis too, most only got in because the boss thought they were hot and wanted them around the office .

this, women hate cubicles because they want to socialize instead of working
in fact they think their socializing is their actual job
this and finding ways to prevent men from getting work done

youtu.be/GyV_UG60dD4

>all the managers are white
>all the front-house staff are white
>the owner is white
>the founder of the company is white
>kitchen manager is a total fucking bro who gives me a shitload of free food
>just recruited a great cook for them from my old job
>the highest position there held by a sanchez is line cook

lel no

Its harder to fuck off when everyone can see you. Cubicles made it crazy easy to screw off.

>dat space after the meme arrow

>possessive apostrophe
Why can't anyone do plurals anymore?

Cubicles cost too much per sqft.

I imagine the next thing is a shared..

well fuck ...

I'm sure there will be some shared, simulations work space usage. Like one of us will type with no monitor while the other reviews what they typed. Then we switch...

Or maybe they will try stacking us on top of each-other?

im the same way

i had to print 3 documents at the library today

the printer/copier was not cooperating and i had to figure out why my jobs weren't getting sent to the printer and this homeless woman and man were talking loudly and arguing about her new rental and her pastor and the lady at church with a new puppy that was a purebred and if she has enough money for a dog then she shouldn't be asking for $100 for rent, and the pastor is going to be upset about something, and i called my aunt yesterday and she didn't know what to do, and then the guy gave her $100, and then they stopped arguing, and then the woman made a bunch of excuses, and then they talked about how they weren't going to let things get so bad for her again and all i could think was

SHUT THE FUCK UP I CAN'T HEAR MYSELF THINK PLEASE TAKE YOUR FUCKING DEPRESSING HOMELESS PERSON STORY OUTSIDE IM TRYING TO GET SOMETHING DONE YOU FUCKERS

FUCK@ IOP#U%}(P UIWE$TKLjm amn]ope

>> Cubicles are actually very expensive
Plus, setting them up or rearranging takes a few hours even for a few cubicles, consider also power / network / telephony work involved.

Businesses don't wanna pay for shit just because some new manager comes on and wants to rearrange shit just because. it's bad enough they have to pay employees.

lel, poor? think again. one big screen does not equal two smaller. the ability to have different desktops/zones per screen is jsut one of many reason I can give a luddite such as yourself

in that case you might be okay

i don't understand your racism though

in all the restaurants ive worked- mexicans are bros

ive only been rejected by a few of them

most have been hard working and totally cool so long as you are cool with them

>I dont know how to resize a window

>one big screen does not equal two smaller.
I've said repeatedly before it isnt, its greater.

but keep on justifing your poorfaggotry

>Why did office's go from cubicals to open offices Cred Forums?
Idiocy. The company I've worked for for more than a decade (in IT) has one of their offices in this form. It's ridiculous. The workers sit at their computers basically facing each other too. I bet a lack of privacy lowers productivity and increases a tendency to *pretend to work* or *look busy*.

me, i'm ready to kill myself some days
>be translating japanese to english
>sometimes fairly complicated shit and have to keep concentration through a long sentence which fills a whole paragraph in order to restructure the sentence in my head before i can begin typing since the grammar is backwards
>co-workers are discussing how to structure time in their timesheets to fit both company policy and client policy and not break any laws even though company policy and client policy both require laws to be both broken and not broken simultaneously
>discussing this for 4 hours straight
>i only have one japanese processing pipeline in my brain can you please shut up
i tried earplugs but the crypt-like silence is so relaxing that i just fall asleep

>implying the average office drone knows how to code

these people are literally button pushers, don't give them too much credit

There's a qt autistic Chinese programmer at my office. She's not as productive as a man, but she's not paid as much either. She seems to be self-aware of her own limitations, so I don't mind having her around.

some applications take over screen space and can't be changed, or need to be fullscreened to work properly and you need to move between them a lot
and the psychological separation of 2 screen makes it much easier to keep your shit organized while working.
sorry but bigscreen dude you sound like somebody who hasnt done much work in a business environment

>racism
No, stop right there. It's called real world experience. Have you ever lived in the southwest before user? ? I have. I am hard working and I am polite, but because I'm different than them I have to listen to them talk shit about me all day. "el gringo" this, and "el blanco" that. It goes both ways, but I'm white so my opinion doesn't matter at all right?

>who hasnt done much work in a business environment
lol ok, pic related. im just running a windows domain at home because why the fuck not

Speaking of two monitors

>Excel can only be on two screens at once if one of the workbooks is new

Blows my mind

it's just too complicated- the apostrophe is losing its relevance and usefulness and wasting keyboardists' time

>graduating soon
>was looking forward to my cubicle
>see this thread

....

lol

sorry kid

nojobs

mods - not political.

>working in an office

That seems utterly unbearable to me. Now, if you do and you like it, more power to you, but I always feel like modern work and modern life in general tries to squeeze out every and all forms of randomness, something humans have historically always desperately needed.

I can't imagine working in such a mechanized environment, I'd be so fucking depressed

who would want 2 when you can have 7?

>7
as I said before, black bars. also vidya.

>inb4 nvidia surround

>black bars
not a issue, I don't span anything across all of them like a retard

I'm still in a cubicle. fuck that newage shit- why would I want to look at some ugly face all day while I'm trying to get work done?

This so fucking much. The woman I sit next to bothers me non fuxking stop with asinine bullshit. Reeeeeee

so you administer the machines instead of doing the grunt work on them, right?

Sickness leave goes down while productivity and reported happiness generally goes up when open offices are replacing cubical.

yes

cuck

>implying our goal isn't to break society and abolish welfare.

Ear plugs were like 12$ for a pack of 50 and the monitors were courtesy of work. Literally spend zero money for work ever

Why are people even bothered with it? I've seen other people trigged by it as well.

i know what that desk is for

>falling for the office job meme
>not studying in a field that allows you to work in the great outdoors
>when I graduate, my job will LITERALLY be camping outside in the middle of fucking nowhere while handling surveying equipment and moving from place to place
>not getting paid 6 figures by energy companies and government agencies to go play outside all day

enjoy your heart disease, cancer, diabetes, and mobility issues in 20 years fuckcing cubecucks

>reported happiness

that doesn't sound very happy senpai

>on a board for autists
> why are people autistic?

We like conflict, no matter how small

Can someone tell me what the fuck do people do in these offices all day??

>VCENTER.AD.BIXNOOD.NET

Dick off on excel spreadsheets, schedule meetings, send emails, and generally fuck off. God damn it don't even get me started about common spaces or shared work areas. It's always the most unproductive people sitting on a couch doing nothing. I'm transitioning into sales so I can make twice the amount of money with the same amount of work. Remember to save your money so you can get out of this Mickey Mouse work shit as soon as possible.

bixnood.net

>They can't have the computers facing onto the backs of one another.
> I can see the other guy in the corner of my eye.
>The back of my neck is aching trying to focus straight ahead and not look them in the eyes.
> I'm sitting here just looking at the desktop screen with a growing ache, throbbing behind my right eye.
>I can see them looking at me knowing I'm sitting here not doing anything.

The computers in the library are set up this way :(

I think it's because workers control each other that way. For instance when I've got nothing to do at the moment I have to pretend I'm doing something because my """colleague""" is asking me why am I not doing anything. If he'll see that more often he'll go whine to my manager that he has to work all the time when I'm just fucking around.

this

i don't actually care about politics are all

i just like to argue

I have a dual monitor at my work

Although it's basically always excel on one and whatever else on the other

well then.
doing the grunt work is where you realize the need for multiple monitors due to bad workflow in the document processes set up by management, etc.
having to have multiple excel spreadsheets open but new versions of excel having horrible window management, etc. almost 100% requires multiple monitors due to microsoft's horrible design decisions.

That's the semi-colon; sadly long lost to stupidity. Surely adding an apostrophe to a plural -- a time-wasting exercise that only adds confusion -- is more futile, no?

Thanks user I needed that pic. Check me out in WWE and UFC in a few years, I'll credit you and Burr.

None of these niggas will know the glory of having your own office...

>doing the grunt work is where you realize the need for multiple monitors due to bad workflow in the document processes set up by management, etc.
No there is, you resize windows to however big you want them and put them on the screen wherever you want them.

>having to have multiple excel spreadsheets open but new versions of excel having horrible window management
what the fuck are you talking about? pic related

oh, how i love the semi-colon

sometimes a sentence has two ideas; why separate two parts that could be expressed together?

i dislike capitalization and periods are unnecessary- useless and hard to find in my dark room

also, the shift key- so far away and awkward- why bother?

plus, it's Cred Forums no one cares how lazy you are with your typing

retard

>working in an office

lel

I teach disabled 16-25s in a college. So many tard stories, its hilarious.

It's work but doesnt feel like work for me, and its funny. Everyday has a funny story to tell.

I think I must be the most politically incorrect SEN teacher here and the staff have a sneaking admiration for me.

For example this autistic guy with tourettes in class just said 'fuck me mum she's a nob' and I burst out laughing whilst the other helpers looked a bit concerned or confused.

Open plan office suck, so I just hide in the server room.

I have never seen anyone with a dual monitor setup who actually needs one.

Have you heard of this thing called the taskbar?

>working in an office

> REDDIT EDITION

gas yourself

you mean multiringuar

Or worse.

Pair programming.

You know that computer you got all nicely set up for your own usage, all the tweaks and shit you did over the years to make it yours?

FUCKING ABANDON IT BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO PAIR WITH SOME POO-IN-LOO WHO DOESNT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JAVA AND JAVASCRIPT.

He will DEMAND you use IntelliJ because all other tools are shit, his professor told him so. He will then do EVERYTHING with the mouse, not using a single keyboard shortcut.

Oh and he will always want to "drive" because "he knows computers good," but wont fucking listen to you telling him what to do since "hes the one in charge of the computer"

Fuck pair programming and fuck any company that forces it down the throats of their workers

those are very small spreadsheets
also that monitor is more expensive than companies in this country would ever consider buying for their workers

Wage cuck here. My first job was in an office, closed cubicle. Genuinely the most depressing thing I ever did, felt like fucking prison. Next job was open office, only a marginal improvement from feeling like I am in a jail cell only now I have to put up with hambeasts.

Then I got an apprenticeship as an electrician and it's a million times better holy shit.

>Balls deep in a hot as fuck roof
>But hey I'm not at a fucking cubicle

>20 meters up in the air leaning over the edge of a scissor lift trying to drill through concrete slab
>Still not stuck at a desk lol

Fuck offices and everything about them.

You think you can still do that shit in your 50s though

Yep, definitely. Quick and easy as possible. My point though, why type an extra fucken key that doesn't even belong?

>those are very small spreadsheets
spreadsheets are meant to be small. if you're working with a large dataset you use a SQL database

>it's a new form of torture
>before the employees felt caged
>now they feel like they are always being watched
It's a self-running panopticon layout

Also, women in workplaces and hr fucking it all up to "create a better flow of communication and feng shui"

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Why do so many of you fall for slide bait?

If I worked in an office I would kill myself before 50.

I genuinely don't know how people can bear it.

Besides, shit will definitely hit the fan long before then so I don't really care.

I know the feel. This whole men turn misogynistic because they're loser virgins who can't get laid is just a meme backed up by only a few neckbeards who blame women for their failures there. Fuck dating, it was having to work in 50% or more female-dominated workplaces that turned me into a sexist when I realised what shit tier co-workers they make.

They're lazy, they're massive timewasters, they do fuck all but sit around chatting to each other and distract you then complain when you don't play ball or make them feel shamed by being more productive.

After I finished uni I did temp jobs for a while and most of their were shit for the same reasons. I had one where they said I needed to clear the team's e-mail queue and it'd take 'two weeks'. I kept my head down and cracked on with it rather than waste time and had it done in three days with decent results, cleared an inbox they'd never seen emptied before. I got terminated the follow day after my line manager complained to my agency that I had 'a poor attitude' and 'wasn't a team player'. That despite doing 'two weeks' worth of their work so they could carry on fucking about and being slow. Had a couple more and a six month contract end with similar whinging and passive aggressive feedback.

Taken a paycut and completely gave up on office work now to be a van driver and deliver furniture. Been doing it almost two years now and haven't had a single complaint about anything similar to the issues those cunts were finding from any boss I've had since shifting to an all-male workplace. Muh physical labour and heavy lifting keeps women away from it thank fuck. Recommend the same to all Cred Forumsacks, change job to something that naturally repels cucks and women if you don't want their bullshit and a soul destroying work environment.

The "open office" concept is an awful trend and I hate its increasing popularity. My father spent decades moving up in his company and finally got his own office....Only to be kicked out because the company was doing an open office and he had to work with the rest of the employees. Its bullshit.

Why do they assume that everyone works better in this kind of open environment? They don't. Some people work better alone and without constantly watching eyes.

collaboration is shit and everybody knows it. one person is more innovative, effective, and efficient than all the rest because the rest are shitty, selfish, lazy, boring, shitty people with too many mental limitations.

Wages are a joke and you are the punchline.

>cubicals
What is this? A type theory thread on Cred Forums?

Make a tiny hole in the earplugs. Thats what i do.

Started working a month ago, my work also has open work spaces.

There's nobody caring about other people working. You can just fuck off on your phone if you want. There's a guy diagonally behind me that is always doing something else, reading news sites or watching YouTube videos.

IT has a decent productivity, business does fucking nothing. Whenever I walk past them, they're always editing the same PowerPoint presentation they have for the past weeks.

same here man, 12 hours. Wish mine was a shed/gatehouse, im in a 'search area which has a randomizer to catch random warehouse workers and you search them. Its annoying and actually useless in 'catching' people. Gonna be changing it to those airport sort of things too so thats might be ok.

>tfw shitposting at work right now
it's nice and rainy so I have a chance to run the heater and get extra comfy

Why do i feel like all these works can be done at home without having to even come to a "work place"

user, you should have gone into finance or the tech sector. You would have been a super star.

These are the two sectors that are almost female free, and the females that do infest the workplace are of the gook variety. They usually leave once they get burned out and get married to some beta male. No darkies either (aside from the curry niggers)

>fell for the stem meme
>worked finance
>open floor plan
>got promoted, got a posh cubicle
>got promoted again, moved to a conservative flyover state and got a posh office
>fell for the tech meme
>now work in some faggoty open floor plan working fucked up west coast hours with autists like college students
>at least the amenities are nice

Get in, get your work done, work with a team that wants the same.

As a light eyed white, I am usually the leader of a team. I only get brown eyed whites and pale asians on my team as they literally look up to me. Those shit skins are so repugnant too look at, they affect productivity. Cunts are so useless, they have negative productivity.

How I fucking wish the wall-system was still around. There are 90 people on my floor. There is a middle aged lady who sits 5 feet behind me and talk about her dumb life all day. There is an entire department of millenials behind me who do not know how to shutup and do some work. My work requires a lot of concentration, one slip up can end up as national news and court cases. Corporate tells us how important it is to concentrate, yet throw us into this cage of wild feral animals. God damn

Where do you work?

buy ear plugs. thank me later

so those micro managing assholes have an easier way to harass you all day. whatch working on? whatch you working on? you done yet?

I came here to laugh at you. At least you're not a bitch boy summer intern I guess.

Cant really say sorry mate.

>except for a few people who I go out for drinks with every now and then

Fuck off, chode.

Yeah i wear ear plugs and have headphones. Some people are just obnoxiously loud and no amount of protection can save you.

Looks like an inefficient use of space.
Not all office jobs are coding. Could be customer support, data entry, or who knows what else. I can see this sort of set-up working well in creative environments that deal with the arts since you can easily gain input from others without wall divisions.

The people working less are showing dominance. It's okay to work more, but you have to work more the right reasons. Droning away gets you taken advantage of. If you're not getting in-office goodboy points for your work, you're getting cucked.

t. Knower

Working in an office job for 5+ years straight out of college (2011) in my late 20's as a video editor confirmed that every racist/sexist stereotype is true ...and frighteningly so.
Women are positively worthless workers, they babble with other women at least 50% of the workday about the most mind-numbingly superficial mainstream bullshit. I practically lived in a cubicle, and had to hear these brauds go on for hours about whether or not the dress was gold or blue or whatever the fuck that shit was. They were ALAWYS 'sick', dressed slutty as fuck, and talked shit about abdolutely everybody as soon as their back was turned. They never lasted long, and one even got fired for fucking with the thermostat after being repeatedly told not to... because she believed it was a conspiracy that we were trying to keep them all cold.
The nigger dudes were usually pretty based, and definitely better workers. They were, however, dumber than shit and had zero ability to communicate effectively with the written word, so you typically had to justbring their office because their emails made no god damn sense.
I'm of moderate intelligence, but I had no idea how smart I actually was until I worked around such morons in that hellhole. Rather than boost my ego, I slipped into a massive depression. I watched grown men have temper tantrums, practically cry, and not be able to put two and two together because they were so stressed.
Finally got sick of it all and left. I'm now video editing freelance while working as a part time bartender and I've never been happier.

Cubicles became too personalized. The cattle started to add personal touches and had a sense of 'property': "this is my cubicle".

So that needed to change. The cattle must be reminded at all times that they are 100% replacable and their removal will not make the slightest difference. Hence 'open workspaces' where you don't even have a fixed working space, chair, desk, nothing.

In addition, it gives a great oversight position: the cattle is aware that everything they do is in the open and people can see their every move. While cubicles allowed for some slight privacy (even if you ordered them to sit with their backs to the opening) this is an even better way of doing it.

I kinda agree. I can think of a few instances where dual monitors are useful, but generally speaking people tend to have them and use them for the sake of using them when one screen would probably be more convenient.

I just do whatever I want and tell my boss to go fuck if they have an issue beyond me not doing my job. If they have a problem with it they can fire me and I can go find another shitty job.

>I watched grown men have temper tantrums, practically cry, and not be able to put two and two together because they were so stressed.

99% of the time it's larger than that. These guys realize they're replaceable, have skills that are deteriorating, they're probably in debt and at least have no savings meaning they won't be able to get a job elsewhere very easily.

They devolve into bitchy assholes that need to be treated as a team member instead of a contract worker. They think they have a reason to whine about not getting a new desk.

Then you go to sleep at night and realize you have no debt, savings to ride the waves, and have been maintaining and improving yourself so that nearly any company would pick you up. At that point work no longer matters and you have no reason to be stressed.

Cubes are super expensive. I'm a software dev and my cube has a door. I've also turned down jobs when I've seen the workspace was open-office plans.

You are literally being cucked by NEETS, how does it feel knowing your paying for their video games and food while you slave away?

It really doesn't matter. Do you know how many people are exploiting the system over here? The number are rising from year to year. It's going to crash eventually, and I sure want to see the masterrace NEET trying to do it on his own.

>Its surprisingly easy to fuck off in a cubicle and especially so if you're friends with a few close co-workers whose cubes are nearby. We used to have duke nukem lan parties during slow times and often late after work to avoid the evening commute traffic out of San Jose.

Oh man... you just triggered my nostalgia.

90s/early 2000s silicon valley was the best. Sure not as much money as today but it wasn't as terrible and cut throat as now. Certainly less foreigners too. Mostly old white dudes from the 80s who really started all this shit. They were usually good guys too who only got into computers was so they could fuck around at work. I remember Half-Life LANs and other shenanigans. Working in a cubicle was the shit. Working in a Cubicle next to a window was ultimate tier.

AIM was a real game changer too. Management wasn't oriented with technology usually they just came by and got their quotas from us and let us be. My department had one of the first XBOX consoles and Halo 1 to come out. Everyone pitched in and I installed an XBOX in a caged off part of the office that no one could see you in since it was locked storage. People would go in and play Halo and no one would know they were in there.

Every week too we used to drop parachute G.I. Joe's off the parking garage to determine who would buy lunch...

Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy.

Excellent thread.

I often wonder what's the optimal office would look like.
I work in an open space right now and it's shit. interruptions, you hear your colleague's bullshit etc. I dream of having an office like in Mad Men.

To make sure workers aren't slacking off so that Mr. Goldstein can get that new mega yacht he's had his eyes on

>I dream about having an office like Mad Men
Unless your a partner your office would've been shit.

I worked at a Japanese company and a few months in they switched from cubicles to open floor plan. Everyone knows what you're doing. It's irritating.

They're weird about personal effects too. It was a mixed office, and none of the nips had pictures of their families or personal stuff on their desks.

Ick.

I know that feel. When I used to work the jails in LA county, I could count on two hands each night how many times I told illegals that I don't speak spanish.

>deputy?
>what do you want?
>blah blah beans burritos, guacamole
>i don't speak spanish
>ok

They usually fuck off after that. Nobody ever gave me shit for it. Half the time the mexishits would find another inmate to translate, and even then my answer would still be no or go wait.

My employer has had open concept since I started in 2002 and also has the management offices on the inner parts of the building so us rank and file can look out the windows all day at our 50 acre property with a pond and a herd of longhorns (for tax purposes, of course). It's not bad.

>tfw sometimes I wonder if I will be able to find a job