Questions for self-described racists

>he believes racism equals supremacism
Retarded

You can't ignore the truth forever.

Hate coming from a population that, as a whole, subsides off of welfare stolen from productive members of society, is much more despicable than working class members of society who grow a little weary of all the race baiting and double standards for racism in the politically-correct sphere. We don't wish them harm, we just want them to fend for themselves instead of relying on government intervention for food. Black people will literally say "white people are the devil", proudly, and they initiate violence against white people far more often than white people are violent against them. Civil rights were won 50-60 years ago, they've just been gaming the system since then.

I love that about pol, it's a great way to express yourself, unfortunately most people don't do just that.

I hate how threads about genocide are even allowed, like WTF? This is one of the few places where you can discuss race without being censored but every thread degrades to negro calling and t. tyrone, you can't discuss race without being called a nigger. what's up with that?

Hey I haven't even stated my own views. I don't consider myself a racist, but I do recognize that the charts regarding IQ distributions between races are probably true (I don't think IQ is very meaningful other than as a tool to distinguish between the developmentally impaired and people of normal and above intelligence though). I thought getting answers to these questions directly from the people who are concerned with theses issues would be better than accepting the standard PC shit talking uncritically.

>3. In your ideal society, how would people of different races be treated?
there are none. problem solved.

No.

I'm not a racist but we would all be better off being the same color, eliminating racism effectively.

How does it feel to be a sad low social class racist faggot?

Like do you feel good in your daily life?

Questions for self-described Swedes

1. Doesn't getting raped by Muslims bother you?

2. Why are you guys so self-loathing?

3. Does a wet black dick going into a white vagina arouse you?

4. Why does Sweden feel such white guilt when you never colonised anyone?

5. Don't Swedish women need to get a beating once in a while?

Cuck

breaking the narrative is not allowed
pol self-censors

You're on a board called politically incorrect, that is used as a containment board for any view that may cause hurt feelings among liberals. What do you expect? True freedom of speech has a price, either look past it or create something that could foster the type of discussion you're looking for. I'll give you a little hint though, if you don't allow for opinions that you disagree with, you end up silencing all forms of dissent, even from people with good intentions and well thought-out ideas. Nigger has no power unless you let it. Furthermore, black people say nigger amongst themselves quite freely. Why should we feel guilt for using it? Most people even here have the common courtesy to point out that not every black individual is a nigger, and nobody is claiming that you should call every minority you see a slur. There's more nuance than you might care to admit.

If you truly believe this you know nothing of economics, politics or sociology.

>eternal anglo
>positive impact on the world

What am I looking at?

>Do you recognize that delineating between races based on phenotype is very crude?
no it isn't

the 3 major races have different bone density and shape of teeth

that's why forensic scientists can determine race from a tooth or bone fragment

what do you even mean by crude?

lmgtfy.com/?q=interracial crime statistics

Fuck off until you've done your time here.

no
freedom of speech.. yeah right.

1. No
2. No
3. No

1 - I'm really only racist against blacks because of their violence and stupidity. Idk why they are violent and stupid, they just are. If an individual proves themselves not to be, I treat them as equal. Different, but equal. My best guess for why they are violent and stupid is they are the only race that did not breed with Neanderthal.

I also don't like Jews because they keep fucking everything up throughout history, and seem to be psychopaths.

2 - Yes, yes, and I value personal achievement more than in-group achievement

3 - I am a believer in the ethno-state. As for the US, I think balkanization is the only possible result of our race relations and deep cultural divides.

The scientific reality of races.

there are two kinds of people

1. people who are racist, ranging from:
cross street to avoid black teenager -> burn crosses

2. people who lie, mostly to themselves, about being even a little racist.

>Do you recognize that delineating between races based on phenotype is very crude?
Crudeness is not a concern of mine. I prefer to base my beliefs on what I think will make the society I live in better.

>Or are you mostly concerned with race based on social aspects?
Not mostly, but it's an important part of it.

>Do you take 'pride' in the accomplishments of your race, even though when those accomplishments were achieved before you were born?
No, I'm not a delusional negro.

>If so, do you also feel shame over atrocities committed by your race?
No, I'm not a self-bashing nu-male faggot.

>How would you value a personal achievement compared to an achievement of your race?
Those are on two completely different levels. To put it in simple terms, I "take pride" in my personal achievements, while I "appreciate" the achievements of my race.

>In your ideal society, how would people of different races be treated?
In my ideal society, there wouldn't be people of different races.

>no

Wrong

You sure as shit don't know my country. A race that is told by politicians and the media that they have been grievously wronged absolutely can become a menace to society. There will ALWAYS be individuals that can overcome this, but that doesn't erase what is happening. Now America is focused on "trans-rights" and forcing bakers to make cakes for gay weddings.

And if I have to explain why a population that is so widely on welfare is a drain on the economy, then you're the one who doesn't understand economics.

1. Its race has a lot to do with nationality, although not entirely. A Frenchman who has lived in Sweden his whole life will be a Sweden, while the same cannot be said for an African. People have been geologically seperated for most of human history, and those geological seperations also work as great deviders of where one race ends, and where another begins.

2. I do take pride in the acomplishments of my race, to the extent that i respect the work they have put in to create a society where I can live. But with that in mind, i also recognise that some of that work was possible because of historical absue or mistreatment of other races or nationalities. But i don't think the current generation has to pay the debts of their ancestors, just because they happen to have it better. There is also the question of how important it is in the current day, and for how long you will need to recognise historical injustices before they are settled. I'd take a personal achievement any day over a racial one.

3. All races would have their own societies in their homelands where they would be the main focus of their state, and treated equally within their own race.

Like totally?! Like...WTF?!? Women type like they speak, female Nigger.

1. I believe there are biological differences between races - as large groups; this says nothing about individuals. The smartest black is obviously smarter than the dumbest white. But that doesn't mean that if blacks are 10% of the population, they must be 10% of CEOs otherwise racism (which is what the left claims).

2. I don't take pride in the accomplishments of my race, but I do believe they give biological clues to the performance of my race as a whole.

3. In my idea society, race wouldn't even be brought up. Ever. Everyone would be treated exactly the same. However, this would result in more white and Asian CEOs than black CEOs, and I would expect the left to remain silent. Since they operate on the axiom that all races are the same and therefore any racial differences are due to "racism" (by whites of course), perhaps the only solution is simply to create racially homogeneous societies. Unless we find some way to rid society of lefties who openly display racism towards whites.

Stop arguing like a woman you faggot

>Like wow....I can't believe you'd be so horrible, how does that feel? Do you like feel good about yourself right now? Wow...just wow

>1. Doesn't getting raped by Muslims bother you?

Immensely. I don't want Islamic values to be a thing in Sweden. They're completely incompatible with ours.

>2. Why are you guys so self-loathing?

I don't hate Swedes, nor do I love them. I try to judge each individual based on the content of their character and their actions.

>3. Does a wet black dick going into a white vagina arouse you?

Not into black guys.

>4. Why does Sweden feel such white guilt when you never colonised anyone?

I don't. That's the lefty state media brainwashing.

>5. Don't Swedish women need to get a beating once in a while?

While I enjoy a kinky spanking, physical abuse is never fun.

Keep on driving those cars and boarding those trains. Victorian England created all modern tech. Sorry Italy but after Rome fell and Pope Cuck arrived you guys have been irrelevant.

Also thanks for helping Germany ruin Europe.

Turns out I said pretty much what this guy said.

>wants people to express themselves freely within what you think is appropriate

What's wrong with calling someone a nigger? You don't realize that you are the reason it's a bad word. If no one cared, it wouldn't be the same. Also, maybe some people think genocide is the best way. You may not agree with it, but it's still their honest expression.

based

Thanks colgate for making my teeth white.

t. Muhammad.

Still no.

No.

Wow I can't even. You're literally Hitler!
>being objective about biology makes me evil
>k

1. Absolutely not. Phenotype isn't restricted to visual features, it includes all genetic sequence "outputs". You're the one not understanding.
2. I'm a Roman. I absolutely praise my ancestors for crafting, educating and guiding the world from the Bronze age to the Modern era and am furious at current "education" for it's utter bullshit. Shame? Are you mad? People like you believe they live in a time beyond history, war and suffering - You should feel ashamed for what your idiocy is doing to this world that countless generations of your ancestors lived and died to build.
EVERY population has committed "atrocities", those whom have lost in warfare have been wiped out or annexed today. How many people did Islam kill in its history? More or less than Hitler's National Socialism / US Slavery? You wanna get to "horrible methods of execution"? 'Cause gas chambers are a breeze compared to necklacing, quartering, dismembering, etc.
Less than a hundred years ago Africans still were cannibal fucking tribes hunting humans (black AND white) for food.
3. There is no such thing as an ideal society and you're still operating on the assumption of equality. If Africans and Islamics were eradicated from this planet, the world would suddenly become a better place. If also rid of jews and usury, it would have the potential of become the utopia you delusional faggots believe to live in today.

1. Judging people by observable and objective traits is not crude whatsoever. Why do you think it is?

2. I don't take credit for my races accomplishments but they do serve as evidence that different races are more capable than others.

3. In my ideal society different races would be treated just fine. I don't hate other races but I do think some are better than others and I do think that Caucasian (particularly Mediterranean) are , as evidenced through history , the most capable of all races. If you were starting life as an RPG would you pick black , white , Asian , aboriginal ,or some admixture of one or more?

>what do you even mean by crude?
>Crudeness is not a concern of mine. I prefer to base my beliefs on what I think will make the society I live in better.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean crude as in rude or impolite, crude as in; not very precise.

No, you are a female nigger?

>sweden
what a cuck

It's precise enough for what we're trying to accomplish.

Little red X top left if you don't like it.

if a forensic scientist can determine race from a bone fragment, how is that imprecise?

C U C K
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also, I'm proud of the good stuff my ancestors have done, but don't feel any responsibility for anything bad they might have done

1 "crude"
non argument

"social aspects"?
You mean the astronomical crime rates for niggers and their endless stream of hate crimes against whites?

2. why shouldn't I when niggers ask for reparations because I'm white?

3. niggers should be kicked out, they're racist as fuck and you can't even explain anything to them if you're white

>very crude
MUH FEELINGS

fuck off sven

>Phenotype isn't restricted to visual features, it includes all genetic sequence "outputs". You're the one not understanding.

Ah you're right.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenotype
Sorry I'm not a biologist. I meant 'morphology'.

>Shame? Are you mad?
Stop assuming my position on things. I just asked a question.

1. race is easy to delineate

2. I feel proud that my race fucked up the rest of the world. I am only ashamed by how weak and cucked we are today.

3. deportation from white nations and bar that genocide.

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I don't judge by race, I judge by intelligence and the best indicator for intelligence is race when there is no other information available.

1. Yes there are some clear differences between races in terms of intellegence, culture, and physical appearance.
2.No, because I am mixed race. I don't know what the hell I am. I am disapointed in my parents for mix breding and I feel like I jave no identity.
3.Different races wouldhave their own seperate countires. A country for whites, blacks, asians, arabs, etc. There is nothing wrong with races communicating with each other, however, it must be done on international grounds.

Can you really call me a racist when I only hate niggers? I have no issues with Asians/Slavs. The proper term really should be "niggerist."

>Do you recognize that delineating between races based on phenotype is very crude?
No.

>Or are you mostly concerned with race based on social aspects?
Both.

>Do you take 'pride' in the accomplishments of your race, even though when those accomplishments were achieved before you were born?
Not really, I find it interesting but I don't take pride in it.

>If so, do you also feel shame over atrocities committed by your race?
Nope.

>How would you value a personal achievement compared to an achievement of your race?
Personal of course.

>In your ideal society, how would people of different races be treated?
Not allowed to be citizens, only allowed in on a tourist or work basis, not allowed to breed with natives.

Someone is triggered. This website isn't your safe space.

1. Race as a social aspect.

2. Yes. My nation is part of my identity and I feel pride in its accomplishments.

I do not expect or accept personal recognition for those accomplishments however, so there's nothing wrong with this.

I do not believe the British Empire or the United Kingdom committed a single atrocity. Even things others may go so far to call atrocities, they're simply means to an end. Overall we have a clean human rights records and pioneered fair treatment for people in most fields.

3. How would they be treated? They wouldn't. They would not exist, with the exception of tourists who would just be treated like regular people provided the fucked off once they were done giving us money.

Where is the compassion that your mother should have taught you? When will you realize there are good people of every race and alas bad people.

When will you realize that your hatred and the cause for so many issues?

It was sucked out of me once I stopped living with my mom in the suburbs and moved to the city where I could witness niggers in their true disgusting form.

Hatred is fun. You should try it sometime.

I'm not a biologist either, I'm in the jew-est of professions, capital trading.
It doesn't take a specialization to understand that "observable traits" doesn't restrict it to traits you can see with your eyes. It requires only a very rudimentary understanding of semantics.
Obviously morphology alone isn't enough to judge a person, those are literally only superficial traits. Still keep in mind that yes, even morphology alone will influence individuals, but only through epigenetics (look it up if you don't know what it is)

2nd point.
True enough, I did assume your positions and am actually pretty convinced to have a correct picture of you, still. Yet I have no grounds for such claims and indeed you did only ask a question.

A forensic scientist is a trained expert. What I meant is that the average Joe will consider all black people a single race, where in reality skin color can only very roughly determine ancestry. Just look at this picture posted here:

>spanking
It's just one of those fetishes I never seem to understand the appeal of.
I've known women who enjoyed it, but I've never known the 'why' of it.
hair-pulling makes more sense to me./

There is no true form. Read a little, get educated. The only true enemy of america is people like yourselves, and democrats from what i've read.

no

Ideally, the races wouldn't mix. Niggers and gooks and sandniggers wouldn't fucking come here and fuck everything up. There wouldn't be a problem if they stayed in their own countries.

I don't hate other races, but seeing how white kids are now minorities in school, makes me both worried and angry.

Whites are a global minority, and soon will be on their own countries.

I wouldn't mind racemicers if there were more whites.

And lastly, I'm an engineer, I'm an objective and critical thinker; race does exist and us nit just skin deep.

Bump

please, just stop. what would you do if you encountered a real black/asian/arab in real life?

Would you call them a slur and expect swag walk away?

No there most certainly is a "true form" and if you disagree then go walk around some black neighborhoods in the city after dark. Niggers are disgusting """"humans""""" that are prone to commit crime more than any other race. Statistics back this up and it can not be refuted without sticking your fingers in your ears and covering your eyes like a good little "progressive"

1) Social cohesion is important, but there are obvious inferiorities to certain races, such as the Africans.

2) Yes. No shame, all races have committed atrocities, so who gives a shit? Race achievements are obviously collective (built a civilization) versus individual achievements (started a family).

3) They would be gone.

I think I found a picture of you.

There is no true form. You are one of the many enemies of America. Uncle Sam would NOT approve of you.

Call them a nigger/paki/raghead like normal.

no one would think a khoisan was related to a bantu or a dravidian

>the average Joe will consider all black people a single race
all six of the black races listed share something that none of the others do. they have 0% neanderthal admixture, whilst the rest of us have 1-4%

we're not even the same species

such a qt pie

Uncle Sam doesn't exist faggot. Why should anyone care what a fictional character would think of them.

Your views seem to align very well with mine. I wouldn't consider you a racist.

I appreciate you being polite. My views are pretty much ^

gl

Bit off-topic, but it's mostly the humiliation and feeling of submissiveness. You've been a bad girl and you're being punished by a strong dominant man.

I'm from Northern Ireland, non-whites are the ones who need the luck.

Society doesn't make the People, The People make the Society.

Hence why importing millions of third world people into Europe will destroy Europe as we know it.

Europe will not stay the largely secular, open, liberal society it is today when white people are the minority.

It's fucking stupid to assume it will.

Just look at any areas in Europe that are majority Muslim, and put a white girl in mini skirt there at 3am and see what happens!

The same thing would happen as if you dropped her in the centre of Baghdad at 3am in a mini skirt, she would be raped and killed.

1. Yes. I base my opinions on facts, crime stats and whatnot.

2. Yes. White people made 99% of everything ever. No. Most 'atrocities' were purging foul inferiors, which I have no problem with.

3. If it aint white or northern asian, total and complete genocide preferably.

>if any number of black science men exist, race is meaningless

SWEDEN YES!

Where is that critical thought that your father should have taught you? When will you realize that refusing to see the inherent evil in people will hold you back from ever understanding societal trends?

When will you realize following blind emotions and the politics of outrage are why our country is so divided?

Also

>you can't say an entire race is bad because of the bad behavior of a few people of that race

Then

>look at this one good black/Muslim/Mexican person, surely all members of this race are good

People make the society and society makes the people.

what happened to you

people don't want to be harassed because of their race, kindly fuck off

Then they should not come to Europe, should they then?

>1. Do you recognize that delineating between races based on phenotype is very crude? Or are you mostly concerned with race based on social aspects?

i dehumanize groups of people based on statistics regardless of race

i choose to adopt racist terms because they are humorous to me

this happened to me too, as a kid i got taught that multi cultural equallity bullshit, niggers and arabs are annoying, disgusting and violent, (some asains suck too tho)

i was not born racist, other races made me hate them by being shit.

you even close windows programs on the wrong fucking side

Honestly my ideal society isn't really based off of race. I'm fine with the mixing pot bullshit - as long as we have one culture. I don't agree with multiculturalism at all - it's completely different.

Equal opportunity also doesn't mean giving certain groups handouts - it means we need to STOP seeing race all together, stop categorizing people into groups based on race, stop complaining when one race on average succeeds over another, stop even thinking about shit like that. We need to see people as individuals.

I would argue the left are the real racists because they statistically categorize people and right out deny individualism. It's wrong because, well, people are individuals and should be judged off what they achieve and do individually, not how they were born.

Why can't there be a balance? Empathy and critical thinking both have value (although I don't agree that anyone with critical thinking would logically conclude that:

>I only hate niggers

as you put it)

The left have changed the meaning of the word racism. It now basically means anyone who disagrees with the axiom that all races are exactly the same in every possible way besides skin colour.

In particular, racism no longer means treating people differently based on race. That is now considered okay by the left, as long as it disadvantages whites.

So I am not racist in the old sense of the word, since I believe people should be judged by their actions rather than their skin colour. But I am racist in the leftist sense, because I believe in differences between races.

1. It is not bit yeah sometimes there is a cultural aspect to race(ie germanic and slavic)
2. I take pride what my race has done as a collective and I take pride in what we will continue to do, as of now I am not so proud of the white degenerate race.
I don't feel any shame in what my ancestors did to others, why should I? I am however ashamed of the destructiveness that we did to each other WW 1 and 2
I am doing quite good compared to others of my race, yet I always try to better myself.
3. We will cooperate when they cooperate. We will act with hostility when they act with hostility and we will conquer when they are weak.

Fair enough. Thanks for the insight.

I agree with this so much. Fuck collectivism, people should be concerned with individuals, not groups.

>1. Do you recognize that delineating between races based on phenotype is very crude?
it's not though
>Or are you mostly concerned with race based on social aspects?
I'm mostly concerned about being displaced in my own homeland by miscellaneous third worlders
>2. Do you take 'pride' in the accomplishments of your race, even though when those accomplishments were achieved before you were born? If so, do you also feel shame over atrocities committed by your race? How would you value a personal achievement compared to an achievement of your race?
I'm not going to pay your jewish word games with the goal of disestablishing identity faggot
>3. In your ideal society, how would people of different races be treated?
youtube.com/watch?v=EmFSR2E4sCY

It's common which is why rich trust fund kiddies are almost exclusively social justice warriors. They never moved out of the suburbs/upper class white areas so they've never had to personally deal with the lesser races. They stay in their gated communities and watch the news about some police officer shooting a feral groid and then cry about "institutionalized racism" on facebook. Living in any city based "diverse" area for a month will absolutely redpill the shit out of even the most staunch "progressives"

people don't choose the color they're born as, why would you discriminate against them because of factors completely beyond their control

Because they choose to come here and pollute our countries. Nobody wants them.

>1. Do you recognize that delineating between races based on phenotype is very crude? Or are you mostly concerned with race based on social aspects?

There's nothing crude about it. It is actually more scientific to make the distinction than to pretend there are no differences whatsoever.

Do you also feel it is crude to separate dogs into different breeds? Is a pitbull identical to a chihuahua?

>2. Do you take 'pride' in the accomplishments of your race, even though when those accomplishments were achieved before you were born? If so, do you also feel shame over atrocities committed by your race? How would you value a personal achievement compared to an achievement of your race?

White people are constantly being told they are guilty for all the horrors of the past, so I see no issue with also taking pride in the accomplishments of the past. If you and everyone else stops pushing "white privilege" and white guilt, then I will stop feeling proud of the fact it was Europeans who mapped the world, tamed electricity, and came up with brilliant explanations for the way we are through evolution.

>3. In your ideal society, how would people of different races be treated?

Africa for the Africans, China for the Chinese, Europe for the Europeans.

If some people want to mix it up, fine. But if people want to live in segregated communities that should also be allowed. Government should not be allowed to force businesses to hire a certain percentage of blacks, or force white suburbs to take in blacks through Section 8 housing, for example.

Basically, Freedom of Association should be allowed. The fact is, most people prefer to live among themselves, not just whites but every race tends to form communities along racial lines. There is nothing wrong with that, but only White European people are shamed and told they are racist for wanting to do so.

There shouldn't be a balance, thinking there need be is pie in the sky idealism that only ends in the dominance of one spectrum over the other.

Explain to me why people should make political decisions based upon emotions. If someone wants to hate blacks because the entire community around them is toxic, crime-ridden and run down, it would be illogical for them to then think:

>well, slavery happened to them, therefore I can't blame them

It doesn't follow, but it is a common thought pattern among modern "liberals".

Indeed I don't consider myself a "racist", yet I am without question by society's standards; see That's probably because I have an understanding of statistics and "normal distribution"...which is also how genes are passed on and expressed by offsprings.

Btw this same topic applies to gender differences...there's unquestionably observable variations that make us unequal: ie women have less density of neurons and therefore less axon connections - on average; meaning a woman is likely to be "stupider" (another term needing to be defined. In a basic factual interpretation it only means that women are more prone to actions induced by instinctive reactions than critical analysis - remember also that the first of basic needs is "safety" and that fight/flight reactions are almost always flight for women) than a man, but absolutely not that all women are stupider than all/average/some men.
>source: my neuroscientist gf

I am an idealist, I would want meritocracy.

I also appreciate you being an individual capable of reason and critical thoughts, apologies for calling you a fag at a point.

you didn't answer the question nor acknowledge the most important aspect of it

people don't control their phenotype, to discriminate because of it is wrong.

when will you learn to judge an individual by his actions?

I am judging them by their actions, they come to Europe. It is not like I have a problem with the ones who don't make that choice.

He just did, they make individual choices to come to this country, there is essentially no such thing as forced migration nowadays. "Refugees" are closer to being opportunists, just ask the smugglers.

You still have not acknowledged the important aspect of my question. Why do you ignore it?

I'm not ignoring anything. I addressed your question. You just ignore my answer.

Well its nothing wrong with taking pride in ones race after all our accomplishments run circles around all the other races combined so we got plenty to be proud of.

To be honest I am not really against any race except blacks they are just a pack.

Define "collectivism".

I agree that having modern day white Americans feeling guilt over something their ancestors did is stupid. What I mean by balance is just that even if 90% of a demographic is toxic and violent, try to put yourself in the shoes of the peaceful 10%. Wouldn't that suck?

>Indeed I don't consider myself a "racist", yet I am without question by society's standards; see

Yeah perhaps. But I really don't agree with the redefining of words to suit a political narrative. The lefts doing that stuff just gives me 1984 vibes. It's newspeak and doublethink.

>Btw this same topic applies to gender differences...there's unquestionably observable variations that make us unequal: ie women have less density of neurons and therefore less axon connections - on average; meaning a woman is likely to be "stupider" (another term needing to be defined. In a basic factual interpretation it only means that women are more prone to actions induced by instinctive reactions than critical analysis - remember also that the first of basic needs is "safety" and that fight/flight reactions are almost always flight for women) than a man, but absolutely not that all women are stupider than all/average/some men.
>source: my neuroscientist gf

I'm a woman and from what I've heard is that the IQ distribution curves among men and women look different; more women are closer to the mean, whereas men tends to be more towards the extremes. Ie. there are more male geniuses and idiots. I definitely recognize that men as a whole are better at analytical thinking; chess, mathematics, logic puzzles that sort of thing. I'm in a STEM field so I guess I'm a bit of an outlier. But I agree that people should just get to pursue what they want without society saying it's racist or sexist. Legal equality is should be the ideal. Not equality of outcome.

but they aren't :/

please stop letting pol feed you confederate bullshit

>1. Do you recognize that delineating between races based on phenotype is very crude? Or are you mostly concerned with race based on social aspects?
Two points.
Firstly, phenotype/cultural aspects/etc. are over-analysing what is a very basic fact: in Australia, you can make a better-than-random threat assessment based on race. If someone is Lebanese, Vietnamese, or Somali, they're more dangerous than the average citizen. It doesn't matter why that is the case, it only matters which side of the street you plan to walk on.

Secondly, race-as-identity necessarily creates an other. There is an us, and there is a them. When left-wing racists say "white people must apologise for X" or get songs titled "Kill All the White Man" played on radios across the world, they are actively constructing a white identity, which must then be defended by the whites who are involuntarily placed within it. The calculation is no longer "blacks/asians/aborigines are subhuman and poor workers, thus I can't hire them", it is "a significant number of blacks/asians/aborigines hate people of my skin colour, thus it is risky to hire them".

>2. Do you take 'pride' in the accomplishments of your race, even though when those accomplishments were achieved before you were born? If so, do you also feel shame over atrocities committed by your race? How would you value a personal achievement compared to an achievement of your race?
Ideally, I wouldn't feel either, since pride and shame are meant to be constructive emotions, and there's no way to change your race. However, if society has decided that racial shaming is permissible, then I'm damned well going to feel pride as well.

(cont.)

All of these faggots on here saying they're not a racist. Jesus fucking Christ what happened to Cred Forums?

>even if 90% of a demographic is toxic and violent, try to put yourself in the shoes of the peaceful 10%. Wouldn't that suck?

That's why you get the hell outta dodge and associate with another community that isn't toxic and violent.

>people don't control their phenotype, to discriminate because of it is wrong.
other races commit more crime, to ignore that fact so you can pretend to be equal with animals is retarded.
if a nigger gets their shit together and crawls out of the ghetto instead of prison, if he can act like a person he can be treated like one.
we are not born equal, pretending we are is an insult to our history.

Fucking kek

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Opinions.

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I said demographic. Not community. Let's say it's black people. You can't just change your skin color.

such a sad individual

I might be a racist but, that aside, would I be as racist if I had only my fellow white men and women living alongside me? I don't think so

1. This is about heritage. Race in itself means nothing. All publicly accepted approaches to race-related topics are crude right now.

2. I'm content with recieving life experiences of my past generations. Both their constructive/destructive actions are a source of experience. Experience contributes to personal achievement. Proud for culture and heritage not race.

3. People will be equally punished for destructive actions no matter their race, equally rewarded for merit.

>3. In your ideal society, how would people of different races be treated?
My ideal society would be mostly ethnically homogenous, but not to a crazy degree. That society is impossible.

Second-most ideal would be a mostly colour-blind society. That society is not the one we live in. If you treat everyone the same, but your neighbours treat their own race better, then they gain a disturbing advantage over you.

Third-most ideal would be a society where everyone is more or less honest with each other about when an issue is racialised identity politics.

Least ideal would be our current society, where the majority of racists refuse to cop the description, and instead use labels like "affirmative action supporter" or "civil rights campaigner" to push racial discrimination.

>"such a sad individual"
>being a smuggy leftyfag

Oh piss off to reddit you little cunt.

I very much agree with you, my ideal is also legal - and SOCIETAL - equality.
Let me try to explain myself: As you mention, there's always minor proportions of populations that suffer the shit of their related majority (we as smart/non racist whites; intelligent functional blacks being grouped with dinduses, valuable honorable women being grouped with whores, etc.)
If there's anything positive about the propaganda's effect that we're all subject to is that we found out it is very effective with the most gullible part of the population - which also happens to be the most "violent" or objectively "racist/sexist". Rewriting the narrative to make them parrot (not understand) WHY legal/societal equality is important and factual, forced quotas are harmful/toxic to society...I think may have very beneficial effects.

third point - there's many different studies about this, gender studies aren't as taboo as racial studies; although they often attempt to conciliate society's expectations rather than express science and fuck everyone else.
IQ =/= neuron density and =/= intelligence
These are all separate concepts, 2 of which are ethereal; and the reason I deliberately put brackets on "stupider" is because being prone to fight/flight reactions and prioritizing safety is absolutely NOT "stupid". It's fundamental to survival and in fact it's driving modern females towards leadership in modern society by uniting them.

1. Europe for Europeans, Africa for Africas, Asia for Asians = no racial conflict.

2. Of course, I take pride in what my ancestors achieved. Personal and familial achievement is a false dichotomy. Do both.
In fact, seeing what your ancestors achieved inspires you to greatness.

3. They would be separate. They would be treated like the businessmen and envoys that they are.

We have a lot of blue pilled retards lurking.

>such a sad individual
after bitching at other people to answer your retarded question, that's your response?
pretty clear you didn't want the answer at all, have fun living in a deluded bubble.

Who let molyneux out again?

>mixing all the races
Wew lad

Then we would all be retarded looking dumbed-down elves

1. I see things in society which make me unhappy and draw conclusions in which race is the primary factor.

2. I take pride in my culture, in my race, and in my country. Pride towards accomplishments of my race not as much.

3. Different countries different races. Even on a city by city base, cultures tend to stick together which indicates that on the whole races don't want to mix, why force it?

Elaborating a bit

- All separate concepts although related*
>intelligence
What does the concept of intelligence make you think of? Creative capability potential? Memory recollection/elaboration? etc.
>IQ
This is not an accurate way to gauge intelligence...it's a rudimentary indication. Can't make policies on this.
>Neuron density average
I remember seeing one paper about this, the one she showed me when we were casually talking about it (my gf is a perfect example of #notallX, she's smart by any standard).
One (proper) paper (with meta analysis) doesn't necessarily mean it's a scientific fact - and I'm not intimate with the neuroscientific community enough to know if it's an "accepted" standard among peers.

>1. Do you recognize that delineating between races based on phenotype is very crude?

So are most humans. Most humans are too crude to put people of other phenotypes in their national ingroup, yet that is necessary for a cohesive society.

Now having some outgroups is not necessary a problem, as long as they are humbled (the muds got that right).

>3. In your ideal society, how would people of different races be treated?

As tiny irrelevant, powerless minorities who should know their place. Who get equality before the law, but get discriminated by society whenever society damn well pleases.

>no racial conflict

Yeah, because there were no inter-tribal conflicts in Germania back when only Germanians lived there.

Race is just a concept, if there are no blacks, people find other ways to seperate themselves from their neighbours. Roman hatred of Etruscans was racial, despite them having practically identical ancestry.

Most of European history, it was perfectly reasonable to consider people from the next village to be 'foreign'.

twitter and reddit are reserved for commentary like this. come on man

I should have said that it is necessary for a cohesive society with the current number of invaders.

We have to get rid of most of them, it's just impossible to accommodate their current numbers.

There was no racial conflict in a country with one race.

>people don't control their phenotype, to discriminate because of it is wrong.

Why don't you go hug a cactus?
Don't judge it for being a cactus, you have to love it, you have to feel the spines as they rip into your flesh.

>I very much agree with you, my ideal is also legal - and SOCIETAL - equality.
Let me try to explain myself: As you mention, there's always minor proportions of populations that suffer the shit of their related majority (we as smart/non racist whites; intelligent functional blacks being grouped with dinduses, valuable honorable women being grouped with whores, etc.)
If there's anything positive about the propaganda's effect that we're all subject to is that we found out it is very effective with the most gullible part of the population - which also happens to be the most "violent" or objectively "racist/sexist". Rewriting the narrative to make them parrot (not understand) WHY legal/societal equality is important and factual, forced quotas are harmful/toxic to society...I think may have very beneficial effects.

Don't you think trying to teach people critical thinking might be better than just changing the propaganda?

> and the reason I deliberately put brackets on "stupider" is because being prone to fight/flight reactions and prioritizing safety is absolutely NOT "stupid". It's fundamental to survival and in fact it's driving modern females towards leadership in modern society by uniting them.

Yes men and women (as groups) have different priorities, both of which have value. I mostly take issue with people expecting total parity of outcome.

Not race. Culture. And it lives on through generations (French terrorists prove it).

/thread

there will always be conflict, no one is suggesting the elimination of conflict entirely, thats insane. but doesnt it make sense to get rid of one of the largest sources of conflict? is there a good reason not to?

There is racial conflict in a country with one race.

You can't teach a Japanese people to think like a Portuguese person

Replace the people = replace the culture.

>Intelligence

I'd say intelligence is many different things. But roughly the ability to correlate information, make deductions and efficiently and creatively come up with solutions to problems.

>This is not an accurate way to gauge intelligence...it's a rudimentary indication. Can't make policies on this.

Since my ideal is legal equality, I wouldn't be in favor of making policy based on IQ (except giving extra help to the developmentally impaired etc.)

>Neuron density average

Interesting concept, but I doubt it has any political utility.

>Don't you think trying to teach people critical thinking might be better than just changing the propaganda?

Why not both? Critical thinking is already available to those who seek it/desire it.
I don't think everyone does.

>Yes men and women (as groups) have different priorities, both of which have value. I mostly take issue with people expecting total parity of outcome.

We are 100% on the same page here, both on views on individuals/collectives.

>doesnt it make sense to get rid of one of the largest sources of conflict?

If you think race is one of the largest sources of conflict, you're deluded.

You all sound like atheists who claim their personal pet hate, in this case, religion, is responsible for the vast bulk of human conflict, and that if we could just get rid of religious people, everything would be so much more peaceful, just in your case, you've chosen race because that's your personal boogeyman.

Humans fight, we're tribal, if you remove one method of tribal distinction, and existing tribe with splinter to form new 'deadly rivals who could never coexist'.

If you have a country with just one race and one religion, something that has existed many times throughout history (so you could actually open a book and study this), you'll find it's no more peaceful that any other region. If there's no religious differences, no racial ones, people will just find other petty shit to fight over like politics, historic insults to family or whether they wipe with the left or right hand.

The only way you stop this is with increased education, communication and compromise and with more uniform access to resources, not by arbitrarily removing random groups like blacks or catholics in the hopes that all the problems are caused by just one easily identifiable group of humanity, rather than an element of the human condition itself.

1. Do you recognize that delineating between races based on phenotype is very crude? Or are you mostly concerned with race based on social aspects?

Social aspects, cultures from africa and the middle east are all vastly inferior and violent.
They are pathetic animals who should'nt be anywhere near us.
And of course, they are naturally ugly.

2. Do you take 'pride' in the accomplishments of your race, even though when those accomplishments were achieved before you were born? If so, do you also feel shame over atrocities committed by your race? How would you value a personal achievement compared to an achievement of your race?

I don't, my accomplishments are my own.

3. In your ideal society, how would people of different races be treated?

My ideal society would'nt have the problematic races in them to begin with, and strict rules to keep them out.
Niggers and mudslimes who try to get in will of course be treated with force.

It's not the race wich is the issue, its mostly the culture these certain races have.
Even if we all had the same looks then people behaving like niggers and mudslimes would still be a problem based off culture.

That picture clearly shows that racial groups are genetically distant from each other, while ethnicities within the group are relatively close, it's even color coded. What's wrong with you?

Besides jews, the rest can be sorted out fine

Only jews lie and greed their way to real national destruction

1. Biggest difference comes from cultural differences between ethnic groups. Minority groups often have their own culture that affects their behavior. For example, high crime rate from blacks comes from their rebellious gangster culture. This is the sole reason why US cops are "racist" towards them.

2. That's a common but retarded argument. Humans are social creatures and social creatures as a entity can still have traits of an individual. Pride is one of them. An individual can feel pride over the accomplishments of the entity he is part of. However, such pride is often wasted on an entity that doesn't have solidarity. Today's society is like that - no solidarity.

3. All ethnic groups divided in their own nations. Migration is kept at minimum. Peace is kept through global trade(really bad idea to go to war with trade partners)

1. Yes, It is based on phenotype. A kid with one white parent and one black parent is black and not white.
2. Whites are best at inventing shit. I want to preserve the white race because the world will be fucked without us. Don't care about atrocities, injuns deserved it.
3. There would be no minorities in my perfect society.
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>1. Do you recognize that delineating between races based on phenotype is very crude? Or are you mostly concerned with race based on social aspects?
It's really not that crude. In America we have blacks and Mexicans. Both groups are violent, lecherous, lazy, welfare sucking savages. They reinforce their negative stereotypes daily. I don't care what phenotype they are.

>2. Do you take 'pride' in the accomplishments of your race, even though when those accomplishments were achieved before you were born?
Absolutely. White people have an inherent knack for inventiveness and progress. Why would I not be proud of that.
>If so, do you also feel shame over atrocities committed by your race?
I'm not familiar with an atocities. Slavery seems only to be natural and the Crusades were a necessary answer to Islam advancing in Christiandom.

>How would you value a personal achievement compared to an achievement of your race?
Personal achievements also belong to the race and culture that allowed the acheivement in the first place. It sets the stage. Whites develop highly efficient societies where progress and technology are fostered. Most other "societies" stagnate.

>3. In your ideal society, how would people of different races be treated?
Ideally each race would have its own country. Ex-slaves should have been sent back to Africa after being freed, Mexicans should never have been allowed in. People from other races who demonstrate profound skills and abilities may be allowed in as honored guests for as long as their contributions are significant.

i agree we are tribal, and because of this i think like minded people should be able to live with like minded people of their choice, what i dont agree with is your idea that people just seek out conflict for the sake of it, conflict arises from differences, eliminating the differences undeniably reduces conflict, the conflict between roomates disagreeing over what channel to put the tv on is a lot less severe than the conflicts between two different races forced into close proximity, if you cant give a good reason to shove all the races together it can only be a positive thing to reverse the demographic experiment of the last century and watch the crime violence and conflict go down

can you explain how you can believe that seeking conflict is coded into human nature and believe that education will remove conflict? do you honestly think you can educate human nature away?

He is a leftist faggot, or a shitskin caught in this cultural marxist ideology.

Basically he is a propaganda machine and repeats dogshit the leftymedia told him.

You can shower him with facts and he won't change his mind.

That is why that faggot dodges most arguments and basically talks with himself and that redditfucker most of the time.

>Do you recognize that delineating between races based on phenotype is very crude?
Look at the cranial physiology that never changes retard.
>o you take 'pride' in the accomplishments of your race, even though when those accomplishments were achieved before you were born?
Yes
> If so, do you also feel shame over atrocities committed by your race?
No
>3. In your ideal society, how would people of different races be treated?
Exterminated except East Asians.

Yes
Yes
Gas

How does R1b get into Asia like that?

It originated in the Basque, right?

>I'm not a racist for trivial unrelated reasons, but

> int
google.nl/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=9 types of intelligence

I very much like your definition, it's broad and encompasses most aspects of intelligence, but I also think it reflects your personality as a STEM professional, there are a few more nuances too; i.e. theorizing problems that you have not experienced.
Gracefulness of motion, sports and the likes are themselves a for of intelligence - advanced ballistics, physics, coordination and rhytmic execution (to name some aspects) happening within milliseconds timespans.

>neuron density political utility
oh no, absolutely none.

>The only way you stop this is with increased education, communication and compromise and with more uniform access to resources, not by arbitrarily removing random groups like blacks or catholics in the hopes that all the problems are caused by just one easily identifiable group of humanity, rather than an element of the human condition itself.
actually believing that this will solve something

>tfw Indo-Iranian
WE WUZ WHITE AND SHIT

Although, I must admit, I burn in sunlight like bread in a very cheap toaster, and myself, my brother and my mother's side, do have rather pale skin. It irritates me to be mistaken for a half cast, though.

Go move to Africa cunt.

Germany would have made europe great again if it wasn't for your antieuropeism

That's what I mean. Looking at this picture, I wouldn't be able to tell they're from entirely different races.

1, I disagree it's crude
2, I respect what they've built and do not want to see it destroyed.
3,Irrelevant because they wouldn't exist.

There would have been a war that bankrupts Europe with the Soviet Union, anyway.

The Capoids are not blacks because they are far older than blacks

Well YOU wouldn't, you're a swede living in Swede-town
But some africans very well could.
Granted, porobably not all of them as they don't all travel the entire continent, but I've known a Kenyan who can differentiate black people as well as white europeans could differentiate white europeans

>"I'm proud to be white because of white people's achievements of the past."
>"Why should I be ashamed of slavery/world wars? It's in the past!"
^Cred Forums

>1. Do you recognize that delineating between races based on phenotype is very crude? Or are you mostly concerned with race based on social aspects?
Yes it is a crude estimation and only good if at all for statistical differences and not in individual cases.

>2. Do you take 'pride' in the accomplishments of your race, even though when those accomplishments were achieved before you were born? If so, do you also feel shame over atrocities committed by your race? How would you value a personal achievement compared to an achievement of your race?
While pride might be too strong a word, I do believe that certain cultures foster achievements in certain fields better than others (for example australia's sporting culture, edinburugh's surgical renown or german engineering), and that by further supporting these notions, whether it be by displaying 'pride' this further benefits advances and helps set a higher standard for people to aspire towards. In particular there are numerous studies surrounding the belief of individuals and their ability to achieve that success.

I would not advocate the reverse as it is detrimental.

3. In your ideal society, how would people of different races be treated?
So long as you amalgamate with the local culture to a reasonable extent and treat your own culture as an extension of the local one rather than a replacement I see no issue. If you want to replace the local culture or population then you are in breach of UN human rights laws and conventions.

Otherwise there is no reason to treat individuals differently due to large scale statistical data, it's both unethical and ineffective at achieving any reasonable outcome.

Another armchair "activist" sitting on his lardy white arse in the lap of European luxury. I don't actually hate other races, I simply think all the ideas about multiculturalism and equality are utter bullshit. You don't seem like a good person, you just seem brainwashed and the kind of person who enables rape and violence as long as it fits your narrative.

Every race has had wars and kept slaves.

Whites were the race which made slavery illegal globally.

Just imagine the destruction blacks would cause, given the power whites hold.

Just look at what China is doing in Africa.

>Do you recognize that delineating between races based on phenotype is very crude?

More crude than arbitrary social conditions made up on the fly?

>Do you take 'pride' in the accomplishments of your race, even though when those accomplishments were achieved before you were born?

Yeah mayne

> If so, do you also feel shame over atrocities committed by your race?

We've never really committed any atrocities

>How would you value a personal achievement compared to an achievement of your race?

Obviously more, what a faggot question

>In your ideal society, how would people of different races be treated?

However a government formed of that race treats the people of that race in the country where that race lives. It's about self-actualisation on an ethnic level.

They're from different ethno-cultural groups that are all within the same "race": the subsaharan africa cluster, look at the pictures i've posted and actually read and try to understand.
Besides you have no eyes if you can't see the difference between the golden skinned, epicantal foldless, flat faced, knotted haired khoisan and a nilotic or a freaking pygmy.

>Do you recognize that delineating between races based on phenotype is very crude?
I do not consider myself a racist, but some people have said I'm racist when I point out that racial groups in the human species are, in fact, real and not a "social construct". I think there is nothing more crude than to look at the races of mankind, cover your ears and eyes and say "LALALA ALL THE EXACT SAME". Acknowledging racial differences is not white supremacy, it's just reality.

>1. Do you recognize that delineating between races based on phenotype is very crude? Or are you mostly concerned with race based on social aspects?
If it's crude then why do liberals do it? "Oh help black people they're do disadvantaged" etc.

>2. Do you take 'pride' in the accomplishments of your race, even though when those accomplishments were achieved before you were born? If so, do you also feel shame over atrocities committed by your race? How would you value a personal achievement compared to an achievement of your race?
If doing so is bad then why do liberals take pride in a black man being the president? Or Hermione being cast as a black woman? Or Iron Man being redrawn as a black girl?

>3. In your ideal society, how would people of different races be treated?
Not with racist affirmative action programmes pham

FPBP

Human biodiversity is real and not recognizing it is suicide. Recognizing trends is a survival skill.
Being proud of my people is valid because they raised me and I am thier lineage, the same reason why I pay it forward to my own children is why I can look to my past and be proud of it.
In my my ideal united states it would be about 85-90% white, 10-15% black and they would be separated geographically. Hopefully allowing the black community to return to its formal mediocrity.
I'm still fond of Jeffersonian ideals for a nation.
We must complete on the world's stage without becoming the world's stage.

I don't hate niggers either, I just want to help them stay in Africa.

>No.
Not an argument. If you want to start a thread and debate be ready to actually respond with more than one word.

No u

>"I feel guilt for the faults of my forefather and will sacrifice my career prospects and part of my salary to atone for it"
>"Why should I be proud of my ancestor? Whites have no culture!"
^eternal anglo/globalist families

I'm proud to be white because I am fucking white. It wouldn't matter if white people had all the achievements of the pygymies. Everyone, everywhere, is proud of their people - except for some severely brainwashed white people taught to be guilty instead.

Yes. No need for shame.

The strong dominate the weak and stupid.

Such is live.

Also not my hand did enslave. Not my hand did gas.

No guilt and no shame here.

U no niffin
Let me refute that
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TIL I'm not a Caucasoid. Well fuck, my parents will be disappointed.

>Is blind to the forest from the trees
Wew

How can you not realise that?

Your questions are loaded so that the only possible answers will fit your foregone conclusions.

In short you are not seeking information, so much as making a very smug and concieted effort to have us prove your own presuppositions correct.

A few of the idiots will attempt answer, a few of the trolls will spout offensiveness, but the reality of the situation is that this thread will be the intellectual equivalent of masturbation in which nobody walks away having actually accomplished an honest discourse.

1. social aspects

2. I'm proud to be a product of the successes of my race, though I don't have pride in personally making any of those achievements. I don't feel anything about "atrocities" committed by my race because in the current year, it's other races who are committing atrocities against whites.

3. Equally. Which was already achieved, but the fucking communist liberals had only one way to go after "equal", and that's "oppression of the 'oppressor'"

you are right, sjw have the second point correct, the problem is white people are not prepared to own that responsibility without apologizing and feeling guilt so they make excuses

i know this problem quite well, it is unbelievably frustrating..

I've pretty much given up, I let people go on about "social constructs" and keep my power level to myself

Those damn patriarchal unrealistic standards of beauty broke her ankle!

niggers have deeper skulls
chinks have flatter skulls
mongoloids have flat skulls
caucasoids have the most attractive and aesthetically pleasing skull appearance from sideways-on

the paler a person's skin, the less time it was assumed they spent in the sun getting burnt, hence farmers were tanned and the royals were ghosts. this is why niggers were enslaved.

The niggers were already dark which convinced whiteys that their ancestors were the most worked and it was likely genetic HINT ITS NOT CAUSATION

now that thats out of the way and we understand why white people are /actually/ considered the most attractive and hence became the forefront of civilisation and werent slaughtered by white people, the localised shit i deal with

>200 and some fuck years ago
>whites invade australia
>aboriginals killed
>others tortured
>raped
>majority kept alive and settled crudely
>we were stupid, yes
>fast forward
>today
>political figures apologising
>we are giving niggers handouts
>free schooling
>free immunisations
>free food and drink
>you better fucking believe free housing

Why the fuck should I have to apologise for some ancestor I have that I wouldn't like if I met him who did something to your ancestor you don't know the name of over 200 fucking years ago when we literally have the same rights but I don't get to bitch to Rumbalara?

Racism is not unjustified.

I don't have anything against blacks

I call them niggers because its faster

I don't mean it to be racist its a website

I have nothing against any race
The only thing I can't stand is an Aboriginal person who thinks they're entitled to anything in this country. Also fuck you, Australia Day is great.

I'm half-caste

clarification:

I don't personally seek White Australian aid, and when asked of my nationality I will reply Australian, and only admit to ~50% (known) Aboriginal heritage when directly asked. I refer to my 'white half' when talking in terms of power

The idea that you can change peoples minds by arguing isnt really very effective.

Yeah, some weak minded follower will convert when surrounded by a certain viewpoint, but they will just as quickly swing the other way if immersed in that group.

The reality is that most people are followers and most of the opinions they hold are just temporary constructs created to ellicit acceptance from whatever appears to be the most dominant social group in the room.

Example:
>aquaintance
>guy "man, ya know what, FUCK obama"
>decide to fuck with him because I have a strong feeling that he is just trying to impress me
>me "hey! He is your PRESIDENT, respect the office not the man!"
>guy becomes born again obama supporter on the spot
>few minutes later criticize obama
>obama is now trash not worthy of life
>45 minute conversation, convince this guy to change his mind about 6 times

Granted its one of the more extreme examples I ever saw, but I would estimate that anywhere from 40 to 50 percent of the population behave in that manner on atleast 1 major issue.

Which is why poll rigging works so well.

Don't you think that's slightly a loaded question?

I've got a question for you. Is it productive to ignore that there are differences between different races because that truth is sometimes unpleasant? Nobody should be called a racist for pointing out these differences in an appropriate context.

The Irish would still be in the stone-age without the Brits.
There's been bad blood in the past but you can't deny the Irish are better off now than ever.

>tfw when colour blind

Native Britons were shit desu.