Well guys, considering t's been a long time since this was posted, here is a series of posts for you guys to better protect yourself from the crafty shills and spies that will certainly increase in number with the God Emperor raising in popularity.
This text is from 2012 but the concept goes way back. It was one of the first to describe and name most of the techniques shills use to try to either suppress or to outright control internet forums (in all their forms).
Most likely the expression "sliding" comes from this document but the general concept is know from back the newsgroups days.
Shout out to Fravia, the best resource of this kind of knowledge back in the days before google. It will follow this post with a print screen of the text and the text itself, for easy of consumption.
> COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum..
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Luis Price
plz be my ai gf
Jonathan Allen
> There are several techniques for the control and manipulation of a internet forum no matter what, or who is on it. We will go over each technique and demonstrate that only a minimal number of operatives can be used to eventually and effectively gain a control of a 'uncontrolled forum.'
> Technique #1 - 'FORUM SLIDING'
> If a very sensitive posting of a critical nature has been posted on a forum - it can be quickly removed from public view by 'forum sliding.'
> In this technique a number of unrelated posts are quietly prepositioned on the forum and allowed to 'age.' Each of these misdirectional forum postings can then be called upon at will to trigger a 'forum slide.'
> The second requirement is that several fake accounts exist, which can be called upon, to ensure that this technique is not exposed to the public.
> To trigger a 'forum slide' and 'flush' the critical post out of public view it is simply a matter of logging into each account both real and fake and then 'replying' to prepositined postings with a simple 1 or 2 line comment. This brings the unrelated postings to the top of the forum list, and the critical posting 'slides' down the front page, and quickly out of public view. Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting it is now lost in a sea of unrelated and unuseful postings. By this means it becomes effective to keep the readers of the forum reading unrelated and non-issue items.
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Elijah Perry
> Technique #2 - 'CONSENSUS CRACKING'
> A second highly effective technique (which you can see in operation all the time at www.abovetopsecret.com) is 'consensus cracking.' To develop a consensus crack, the following technique is used
> Under the guise of a fake account a posting is made which looks legitimate and is towards the truth is made - but the critical point is that it has a VERY WEAK PREMISE without substantive proof to back the posting.
> Once this is done then under alternative fake accounts a very strong position in your favour is slowly introduced over the life of the posting. It is IMPERATIVE that both sides are initially presented, so the uninformed reader cannot determine which side is the truth.
> As postings and replies are made the stronger 'evidence' or disinformation in your favour is slowly 'seeded in.' Thus the uninformed reader will most like develop the same position as you, and if their position is against you their opposition to your posting will be most likely dropped.
> However in some cases where the forum members are highly educated and can counter your disinformation with real facts and linked postings, you can then 'abort' the consensus cracking by initiating a 'forum slide.'
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Austin Garcia
> Technique #3 - 'TOPIC DILUTION'
> Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a 'RESOURCE BURN.'
> By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a 'gossip mode.'
> In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in.
> It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to 'drive in the wedge.' By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator.
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Jonathan Scott
Oh, you're that user that helped during the shilling times. Nice.
Jackson Walker
Check out the latest shillary ad, how can we elect a person who uses such language in 2016
> Information collection is also a very effective method to determine the psychological level of the forum members, and to gather intelligence that can be used against them.
> In this technique in a light and positive environment a 'show you mine so me yours' posting is initiated. From the number of replies and the answers that are provided much statistical information can be gathered.
> An example is to post your 'favourite weapon' and then encourage other members of the forum to showcase what they have. In this matter it can be determined by reverse proration what percentage of the forum community owns a firearm, and or a illegal weapon.
> This same method can be used by posing as one of the form members and posting your favourite 'technique of operation.' From the replies various methods that the group utilizes can be studied and effective methods developed to stop them from their activities.
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Noah Roberts
Today I will remind them
Kayden Davis
>mfw JUST
William Flores
Is this true?
Lucas Scott
My response. I've been told by you guys I'm a cuck and let people control the narrative. But I like to come off as not be "deplorable" and reasonable.
Oliver Harris
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Evan Hill
a dirty office, for a dirty old man
Julian Gomez
> Technique #5 - 'ANGER TROLLING'
> Statistically, there is always a percentage of the forum posters who are more inclined to violence. In order to determine who these individuals are, it is a requirement to present a image to the forum to deliberately incite a strong psychological reaction.
> From this the most violent in the group can be effectively singled out for reverse IP location and possibly local enforcement tracking.
> To accomplish this only requires posting a link to a video depicting a local police officer massively abusing his power against a very innocent individual. Statistically of the million or so police officers in America there is always one or two being caught abusing there powers and the taping of the activity can be then used for intelligence gathering purposes - without the requirement to 'stage' a fake abuse video.
> This method is extremely effective, and the more so the more abusive the video can be made to look. Sometimes it is useful to 'lead' the forum by replying to your own posting with your own statement of violent intent, and that you 'do not care what the authorities think!!' inflammation.
> By doing this and showing no fear it may be more effective in getting the more silent and self-disciplined violent intent members of the forum to slip and post their real intentions. This can be used later in a court of law during prosecution.
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Jaxon Richardson
HAHAHA
>Trump >1%
Robert Nelson
Trump said much worse things about El Rato. I love how Trump is winning men by a larger margin than she is winning women, but men are the sexist ones for not voting for her.
I don't know why It doesn’t even matter how hard you try Keep that in mind, I designed this rhyme To explain in due time All I know Time is a valuable thing Watch it fly by as the pendulum swings Watch it count down to the end of the day The clock ticks life away It’s so unreal Didn’t look out below Watch the time go right out the window Trying to hold on but didn’t even know I wasted it all just to watch you go
> It is important to also be harvesting and continually maneuvering for a forum moderator position.
> Once this position is obtained, the forum can then be effectively and quietly controlled by deleting unfavourable postings - and one can eventually steer the forum into complete failure and lack of interest by the general public.
> This is the 'ultimate victory' as the forum is no longer participated with by the general public and no longer useful in maintaining their freedoms. Depending on the level of control you can obtain, you can deliberately steer a forum into defeat by censoring postings, deleting memberships, flooding, and or accidentally taking the forum offline.
> By this method the forum can be quickly killed. However it is not always in the interest to kill a forum as it can be converted into a 'honey pot' gathering center to collect and misdirect newcomers and from this point be completely used for your control for your agenda purposes.
> CONCLUSION
> Remember these techniques are only effective if the forum participants DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THEM.
> Once they are aware of these techniques the operation can completely fail, and the forum can become uncontrolled. At this point other avenues must be considered such as initiating a false legal precidence to simply have the forum shut down and taken offline.
> This is not desirable as it then leaves the enforcement agencies unable to track the percentage of those in the population who always resist attempts for control against them.
> Many other techniques can be utilized and developed by the individual and as you develop further techniques of infiltration and control it is imperative to share then with HQ.
Charles Cook
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Henry Perez
Bernies basement dwellers.
Andrew Barnes
Ever notice how the MSM is constantly going into overdrive shilling when it looks like a state might not go Trump? They were doing this for Nevada, then Arizona, then Georgia, then North Carolina, then Ohio, and now Florida. Yet the stories keep dissipating. Any idea why that might be?
Josiah King
It just shows her divisive pandering strategy. Go to Wall Street and complain about Berntards, go to Berntards and complain about Wall Street.
I have no faith in the Berntards, they're a large part of my generation and I want them gassed. They're as financially illiterate as hell and poisoned with group think.
I'm thinking it's going to take the old people to save us, this might really be a repeat of Brexit.
Juan Rivera
I want a car like that.
Justin Gutierrez
I'm betting he just brushes aside everything you said like he didn't read a bit of it.
Angel Sanchez
Wasn't this in July?
Liam Harris
I hurt myself today...
Anthony Jackson
good stuff
Michael Ward
Now, since I last made this series of posts many things changed.
Did you guys notice what techniques they brought to our humble congolese command and control bulletin board?
1) Forum sliding: any given time, specially when there are bad news regarding Hillary they they go overboard with it
2) Consensus cracking: see the "I'm still voting for him but he went soft on immigration" that people are bringing here. I'm fairly sure the first time it arrive people actually felt the need to believe it but now it is probably just shills shilling shills
3) Topic Dilution: on Cred Forums in general (doubles as sliding): "how can white man compete", on /trumpgen/: polls.
4) Information collection: seen only rarely in here, "let's make a lions guard for Trump's rally" and "what would you do if the election is rigged against Trump". Also "let's access this site / app / plugin for more info". Don't fall for it folks.
5) Anger Trolling: our bread and butter, just see any post with a Finland flag beside it. Actually, it is our main weapon too so it is all fair games in this matter. Just don't answer the trolls.
6) Happened on many boards on Cred Forums when the happening and GG broke out. I don't know about Cred Forums but Cred Forums and Cred Forums, for instance, that's a given. We are not very susceptible, being an anonymous chan anyway but on reddit, oh boy, I wouldn't touch that mess with a 100 feet pole covered in insulant and fire retardant. Social media in general, ever worse.
Stay smart, stay safe, stay beautiful and stay out of trouble.
Tyler Gray
Tell him to fuck off, gas the kikes race war now
James Martinez
>When polls stop going your way suddenly it's bad
Joseph Stewart
How many Trump supporters have you met in your area?
How many Clinton supporters have you met in your area?
Jackson Stewart
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Luis Diaz
this. He's probably not even reading your responses user.
Anthony Wilson
>black Florida >mattering
The Cubans are the ticket nigga
Angel Ross
I'm scared lads. It's really close, isn't it?
Isaiah Torres
talk about how Trump strongarmed the GOP into doing things unimaginable 4 years ago, like have a standing ovation for a homogay and support glass-steagall legislation
William Robinson
Are the weekends just filled with CTR shills?
Ian Price
I can't stop coming to these threads
You guys are all nice and I've enjoyed memieng with everyone here, but fuck you people. I need professional help.
Ian Williams
if i lived in tanzania, I would hurt myself everyday.
Samuel Davis
>worst poll of the cycle
These are the numbers for PPP. Notice anything? When they conduct the "online" portion of the poll that accounts for 20% of the results, Trump only gets 18% of the vote.
Then of course, you have to factor in the oversampling of Dems.
Hudson Brooks
Holy Shit
chinese Moot sold us out
Aiden Ward
I literally hope your village gets a few goats for your shilling for Hillary.
Connor Moore
Thanks for the posts and for the new warnings, m8.
Also, daily reminder.
Adam Roberts
>leaf is still lazy I'm glad to see nothing has changed
James Diaz
OMG we are so done now boys.
Nathaniel Cooper
TO SEE IF I STILL FEEL
Daniel Cooper
Don't need niggers in FL they're the majority. We need CO niggers
Wyatt Murphy
Here folks, pic related is the analysis done on the polls at the previous thread (start at )
The summary is:
1) polls are within margin of error 2) Trump made the following states battleground states in September: Minnesota, Maine, Colorado, Michigan, New Hampshire, Wisconsin
Absolutely don't let the shills concern you with their tactics, if you look at the numbers and at the charts there is nothing to be concerned about.
MAGA!
Alexander Jenkins
We're down right now given that even PPD is showing a small Clinton lead. I think that there is still a window of opportunity to turn things around, but it's not a very big one.
Jose Powell
What is the site that shows early ballot requests in florida?
Hudson Hughes
Also, just a reminder that from 31/Aug forward:
> 3 states went from Safe Clinton to Likely Clinton: Massachusetts, Maine CD1, Rhode Island
> 3 states went from Likely Clinton to Lean Clinton: Illinois, Connecticut, New Jersey
> 8 states went from Leans Clinton to Toss up: Minnesota, Maine, Colorado, Michigan, New Hampshire, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin,
September was the best month for the Trump campaign so far. October will be even better.
Christopher Reed
whos moot?
Gabriel Wilson
Is Hamilton really that good? What's it even about?
Levi Kelly
looks like /cfg/ has been busy. Found this on twitter already
Julian Perez
All Cred Forums people eventually internalize these strategies and can spot them a mile away. >message to CTR
Lucas Hernandez
Coincidence?
Jason Anderson
>doesnt prepare for debate >bombs his first debate >starts plumetting in the polls >tweeting at 3am about a random pornstar
is this the beginning of the end? I love Trump and all but he seems to not want to win this election anymore
Jose Stewart
Thank you user.
You can only assume an increase in activity indicates Clinton is suffering in her private polls.
Jose Roberts
>Vote early >Make election fraud for them even easier Nice try Portugal
Cooper Hernandez
illary gets 4 people at her new Melbourne HQ illary getting wrecked in FL mail in ballots
Republicans are ahead in ballot requests, 43 percent to 38 percent. Beating by 143K ballots Independents=390K votes requested (16.7%) The landslide is coming
I'm not a woman so I don't know whether makeup makes your eyes itch or no
Jackson Bell
>Hamilton listeners good luck with them Hillary they'll never be satisfied
Jason Jenkins
Hillary is going to get Brexited. Lots of people will be voting for Trump when they're alone in that booth and all societal pressures are removed.
Carter Evans
I understood the post, I'm asking about the play. No one ever shuts up about it.
James Roberts
>plummets in the polls >even the worse poll has him down 3 points from before the debate
Cry more.
Jayden Sullivan
a few are CTR, a lot are plebbit and other faggots who were directed here by Pepe
Landon Davis
wow, Romans killed TEN earths worth of jews and it wasnt enough
Zachary Anderson
Numales BTFO.
Mason Thompson
h-he can still turn things around in the next debate. i-it's fine
Jacob Edwards
It's a glorified after school special. Dialogue is interesting, music is mediocre, but I was never a big fan of Broadway. You can hear the album on YouTube or Spotify.
Connor Reyes
Reminder to free thinking Cred Forums people who are not on the CTR, JIDF, etc dole. Sage any thread you want to get mad at but don't want to be made visible.
Liam Ross
Just to reinforce: shills are claiming that the most recent state polls at NH, NV, MI and FL are all showing a clear post debate advantage for Hillary.
That's false and here is why:
New Hampshire: Hillary is now +7 at the WBUR/MassINC poll, it was +15 before at the same poll.
She lost 8 points at that poll after the debate. Let that sink in.
Michigan: Hillary is now +7 at the Detroit News poll. She was +9
She lost 2 points at that poll after the debate. Let that sink in.
Nevada: She is +6 at the Suffolk poll after the debate.
It polled almost 54% women and 46% man (8% more women than men). It also polled 40% democrats while only 34% republicans and 20% independent.
Florida: That's a battleground state alright, here is the comment at the poll that puts her at +4 [4]
> Despite small shifts that have given Clinton a post-debate bump, the race is still very competitive and the outcome will hinge on where and among whom voter turnout is higher.
Do you guys (specially Hillary shills) really believe Clinton or Trump will command a higher turnout this election?
The mere fact that MI and NH are battleground states this election is a display of strength for Trump and weakness for Hillary and she lost as many as 8 points at those states *** after *** the debate.
Imagine black people performing hip-hop about the American founding fathers.
Wyatt Martinez
>Trump says horrible mean shit to everyone over twitter >Hillary puts out commercials about him >Trump turns into a giant baby and complains about her being mean >crybaby.exe >Trump is uncovered as a pre-teen who can dish it, but isn't alpha enough to take it.
Michael Williams
They all came after the debate in a large wave. Pepe has been happening for weeks now and it has been common on plebbit for years already anyway. It's almost all CTR and Tumblrinas
Hey CTR, you have yet another dumpster fire on Twitter, burning down her campaign
Eli Clark
Whats a hamilton anyway?
Asher Thomas
Wicked is the only broadway worth your time
Luis Hall
I'd hate to sit with my back towards a window like that.
Is it so the people he's talking to feel like they have the whole of New York staring back at them?
Carter Price
>horrible mean shit
Like that time he said Miss Universe was "as big as the universe"? Oh wait, that was CNN
Jack Bell
oh , i dont know shit about that, sorry
Xavier Perry
Why does he have to take it? So he can be a cuck like Bernie? Taking abuse without protest is not a sign of strength. It's a sign of weakness.
Brody Hernandez
Poo in loo has a point.
Angel Morales
You are literally a faggot robot programmed by CTR
Luis Wilson
It was the voters in traditional socialist areas (Labour) that won it for Brexit.
People are sick of the establishment. People that work for a living are not adverse to voting against their party when they feel let down.
Bernout voters shouldn't be taken for granted at going for Crooked.
Thomas Collins
I'm just saying a lot of the "trolls" aren't CTR, CTR is here but so are others
Mason Taylor
It's trash. Read a book on Based Hamilton.
>Tfw we could be living in a republic based on a military aristocracy but Hamilton got killed over pussy
Christian Reed
It's a type of shellfish that pairs well with a leppo.
Jason Howard
don't forget the large number of trolls pretending to be CTR because dumbfucks keep giving them (you)'s
Ian Scott
His office is in one of the tallest buildings in NYC. I doubt anyone feels like someone is staring at them. I think it would be more awkward to have your back to the door than your back to the window.
Jaxson Hernandez
just another 40 days nigga, you can do it
Carter Jones
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Landon Gray
post yfw for the next month, until trump wins
Hunter Morgan
>Oh, you're that user that helped during the shilling times. Nice.
Yeah, I'm the habitual portuguese doing charts, analysis and the occasional OP.
That's true but we are picking up a lot of newfags since we featured at the front page of most of the newspapers including CNN so it is always worthy a repost.
>chinese Moot sold us out I don't believe that. My bet is that the original moot was about to sell us out (on the Gamergate days) but then got a proposal by Google and decided to quit this wretched hive of scum and villainy and take some money for once.
Henry James
Most members of the (((media))) have donated to the democrat party, and many of them have donated to the Clinton Foundation as well.
Grayson Torres
>browsing any comments section for anything even related to Brexit on british newspapers >they're still so buttflustered that Leave won
The sodium levels of Trump's loss is delicious. Keep being mad like your emotionally pre-teen nominee.
Carson Young
No that's Al Eppo al leppo is the stuff that comes out your ass while you're being anally raped
Carson Williams
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Lucas James
I'd like to induce massive cognitive dissonance in these fucks by asking them : if silence is strength and attacking is thin skinned, then what the hell are you?
They always stammer b-but he deserves it! So much for not casting stones ..
James Price
I thought he was the mastermind behind the Youtube Heroes program.
Jackson Kelly
Ehhhh Merkel.
William Perez
The interview is pretty based too. Anyone who watches this can see that she is a backstabbing cunt. He should have just posted a link to this video on his twitter with nothing else.
Behind every leaf post is a rat Do not respond to Canada
James Turner
If you break down the numbers, the pollsters routinely oversample Democrats and Republicans and undersample independents (who are only polled 20% while making up 40% of the voters). This is particularly bizarre this election when Trump is winning independents by 2 to 1 margin.
Literally every presidential election in the past 40 years has been about who can get the independent vote. This election, they completely ignore that segment because it supports Trump so much.
Jayden Kelly
I legitimately don't understand why they haven't. Don't these fuckers know they've been holding back the party and are staring Shillarys Supreme Court in the face? They're going to throw a fit because Trump isn't a bible thumper unless Ted Ooze gets them in line?
Tyler Ross
ask him the source on that killing gay rights law (he won't have it, cuz it's bullshit)
He said at worst he would rather have left it up to the states, but (like the majority of republicans feel) it's the law of the land.
Brandon Scott
As we approach the Time of the Trumpening, the prophet grows stronger
Jose Parker
every time Trump and Trump voters don't want to be challenged on any topic regarding basic human rights they use two words
>state issue
Hudson Morris
>ctr doing ctr things It's going to be a strange feeling when you guys leave in November. Having you here is like hanging out at a party, shooting the shit with friends and strangers alike, and every 5 minutes or so some """new guy""" nobody has ever seen but promises he's been there the entire time walks up and pretends to be just like you, while completely failing at mimicking any and all social norms and queues. You tell him to eat a bag of dicks and keep shooting the shit with your buddies.
Angel Martinez
Honestly it's not worth talking to someone so brainwashed
Samuel Carter
I like that chart user
Wyatt Cook
Why didn't he say that he actually defended her, instead of bringing up her degenerate past? Maybe he didn't want (((them))) to bring it up to discredit him defending her?
Jeremiah Morgan
>people trying to get by You don't go to another country without paying taxes and then expect to have the same rights that the people of that country have. >overrule the gay marriage equality ruling See . Trump doesn't care about those things. He wants to leave it as a state issue.
Leo Jenkins
Don't you know Ohio doesn't matter anymore, goyim!
Juan Cox
Ask him if he believes the federal gov't should have the power to supersede state Constitution and interests, which is ultimately represents the people more than the former, for some civil rights bullshit, then remind him that this can escalate into further involvement that will almost always be unconstitutional, such as the Patriot Act and the NSA.
Evan Hill
>Bottom-feeding Slate writer
Owen Price
>daring to challenge based persuasion artist
Jason Reed
>basic human rights
What is that?
Parker Peterson
Holy shit, this news might actually be good news in terms of public opinion.
Austria will have their re-election on December 2nd I think. Which means based NatSoc Norbert Hofer will win!
Noah Scott
he looks like a hoarder
what's all that stuff behind him
Justin Turner
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Lincoln Powell
Somehow I really thought he was going to get through the cycle without too much flack. I guess that endorsement switch really was chum in the water.
Hunter Russell
thats the problem with globalist mindsets, its akin to communism
Joseph Gray
>Are you fucking retarded? The Democratic Party is not a 1/3 bigger than the Republican party
Are you? Oh wait, you're a Drumpf supporter
30*1 1/3 = 40
Grayson Brown
Do i order some pizza /tpg/?
Brayden Ramirez
Some Evangelicals are too stubborn This goes for voter blocks on the right and left
Jackson Reyes
...
Evan Johnson
There are 15% more Democrats then Republican in America?
Gavin Cox
...
Jaxson James
He is becoming one with the God Emperor
Ryder Barnes
>justifiably weak ego
Juan Reyes
Here is what you should really answer:
> I solidarize with the plight of many of those who you consider disadvantaged. > Illegal immigrants, for instance, there are those who just want to get a better life for them and their families. > But their concerns cannot be put in front of those who are trying to enter this country legally.
> In 2013 there were 4 million people at the queue to legally immigrate to america [1], following the correct process and filling the right paperwork.
> Is it fair to these people who are doing the right thing to be left out cold so people that jumped the queue and entered illegally can benefit? Do you believe that's fair?
>I didn't want to debate Trump >I just wanted to shit-talk him without a different opinion on him What a retard.
Ayden King
3.1%
more like 2% lead if the skewed polls are stripped out
Landon Fisher
sure, you presumably have a job and can afford it right?
Oliver Thompson
Wtf is wrong with women
Chase Adams
>Hillary's comments on bernie voters nowhere on r/politics frontpage
makes you think
Dominic Jackson
Wtf I thought it was tomorrow. Did they delay it?
William Edwards
>Are you willing to admit you are wrong?
Are you?
Should polls ask a equal number of libertartian or green party members too?
Nathaniel Bell
>Drumpf
trolin in an aret
Kayden Cruz
For those who recognize aggressive tone, his words have been getting more barbed by the day.
I think that CNN thing really awakened him. Even he is starting to forfeit objectivity and wanting to get in the fight.
Hunter Green
Leftists don't care about these issues anymore, they only care about virtue signaling. I'm not even exaggerating
Jeremiah Wright
Says the poster with no argument just snarky insults. I guess you don't need an argument when the candidate you support has the scruples of a rock dwelling dirt grub.
Sebastian Allen
I honestly don't know. The evidence for him defending her is pretty clear. Here is a CNN video from that time. Machado freely admits that she enjoys the attention. It's the media's job to fact check this stuff, instead they just twist it to fit their narrative.
>it's a European doesn't understand America episode
Ian Hernandez
they want to be dominated
Gavin Howard
...
Brayden Price
Of course
David Brooks
Did you expect anything less?
William Lee
>liberals spend decades expanding Big Government into our lives by arguing "if it saves just one life it's worth it", justifying seat belt laws, helmet laws, trans fats bans, attempts to ban guns, etc >less than 10 seconds on the FBI's website can demonstrate the fact that hundreds of Americans are killed every year by illegal immigrants and thousands of people left destroyed >you can't just end asylum programs and deport illegal immigrants what about the innocents caught up in that????
Owen Anderson
...
Mason Wilson
...
Grayson Rogers
what percentage of those "democrats" vote dumbfuck, I swear fucking leafs
Liam Cooper
Not 15%, but the Democrats have about 5-10% more registered members of their party. In terms of support nationwide, it is about 28% Dems and 28% Republicans (44% Independents nationally).
Only reason Dems have more registered voters and members is because their party comes from a political tradition of mass movements and social organizing.
Republicans are conservative and many supporters don't care about party membership or affiliation, they just support the ideas.
Oliver Jones
Inside Correct The Record: Post-Debate PLOT!
Jackson Kelly
LITERALLY
SHAKING
Josiah Ross
Anybody have that redpill on the skewing of the polls?
Also I have a friend asking about the latest Fox poll? Anybody know about their methodology and problems with their sampling, if any?
Jack Diaz
FAGGOTFAGGOTFAGGOTFAGGOT
Aaron Garcia
why would a Canadian bother being so invested in American political mudslinging? Oh wait, you're not a leaf, you're a faggot CTR shill with a proxy.
Connor Phillips
>registered members are all likely voters in a country where only 40% vote and Democrats have a huge enthusiasm problem
Ryan Nguyen
hi /tg/ I want to remember seeing a 'vaporwave-style' picture of Trump intl hotel (in las vegas) posted on here a while ago. does anyone have this picture or did my mind make that shit up? thanks
Oliver Clark
>wikipedia vs an actual source hmmm really makes those neutrons fire
Jaxson King
I like you Portugal. I can always trust you.
Christopher Brown
I master persuade all the time every night
Brody Reyes
basic human what?
Easton Anderson
...
Chase Roberts
SPOOKY RALLY TONIGHT GUISE
Brody Brown
>people say Trump will lose this election
lmao, he's gearing up for a landslide
Owen Rodriguez
>Woman wanting to have sex with a sexist and a racist
Luke Howard
They have 30% more registered members
Brandon Howard
We have the best persuaders.
Charles Moore
What do you think about the Gallup data I posted at ?
Is gallup wrong?
The data you posted is (I assume, because > wikipedia) of registered members of each party but not all people that identify with each party is a registered member.
I ask again: is gallup wrong?
Nah, here is a tip: get some bread, rub some tomato and make "Pan tomacata" like the catalonian do. It is delicious with some olive oil if you have some available.
Ethan Young
>solidarize
it is stand in solidarity
Brody Cook
Trump was already winning evangelicals better than Romney
He won evangelical primary voters in every state
The only religious voters he lost were Mormons, jews, and Muslims
Adam Martin
Fox is on the Clinton payroll. They can't be trusted even if the poll looks good.
Hudson Fisher
They are followers, not independent thinkers. This is how jews were able to use "wedge issues" like abortion to ensure that conservatives usually lose in races that would change anything.
t. lives in Baptist-land aka VA
Dylan Cruz
this is probably not what you meant but have it anyway
Adam Baker
>Reddit
While /r/The_Donald will have you think Hilary is paying for all the "free" press she is getting in that shit-hole it's actually just awful and always has been.
Nathaniel Collins
I know, it's just if I had some hard evidence that would be helpful.
Joshua Evans
>no leaf
no ai gf for you
Jason Price
Dubdubs of truth.
Oliver Allen
They do not. Put down the pipe user.
Christopher Gutierrez
WHAT EVERYONE IS FORGETTING
15-20% Dems voting TRUMP 2016
Leo Williams
FUCK. It took them a year, but they finally found Trumps chief advisor. Scott, if you can hear me, stay away from the gym until the election is over.
Brody Sanchez
soon
Easton Stewart
Which CNN thing? He was cussing up a storm on periscope yesterday.
Bentley Cox
I already addressed that at Not all republicans are registered members of the republican party just like not all democrats are registered members of the democratic party.
Are you willing to admit you are wrong now? Do you understand why it is wrong to sample a poll with significantly more democrats considering there are not that many more democrats than republicans?
Kevin Johnson
you wouldn't know.
good arguement.
Lincoln Ortiz
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Owen Gomez
When's Breitbart gonna overtake Fox as the hard-right news network of America?
Nicholas Wood
newscorp is 5% owned by based prince
Brayden Howard
Sorry but the Jews circumsiced your leaf away so nothing for you.
Ryder Jackson
Ask him if he knows what Mexican immigration policy is? Why would it be "mean" or "racist" for us, but Mexico's policy is far, far more stringent and they aren't called those names.
Tyler Hall
Thanks.
Chase Williams
He's been planning it all along. His game is a replica of the persuasion he believes Trump to be performing.
Connor Williams
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Ethan Brown
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Eli Walker
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John Williams
breitbart is way too clickbait
Luke Rogers
That's becoming pretty obvious after they spent the last year lulling him into a false sense of security. They're prepping us for the "Ron Paul" sue he's outrageously popular, and he's packing rally's to the rafters but it just didn't translate into votes.
Elijah Ross
>tfw lower cool down
Jacob Diaz
watch mee go!
Elijah Bailey
wewewew
Daniel Torres
just like wikileaks that would end Clinton's campaign, am I right?
it's coming soon guys, I promise!
Totally happening any day now!
For twenty years Clinton's career has been just a few weeks from ending because of some bullshit, but this time a random tweet is really confident so I'm buying it!
Julian Williams
No, if I remeber correctly it looked like the tower was pink instead of gold, and the photo was taken from the bottom aimed towards the top of the bulding, but thanks anyways!
Asher Evans
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Dominic Roberts
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Isaiah Bell
Who is the guy with the spear supposed to be?
Parker Bell
what is the music in that "Trump Triumphant" video?
Jayden Price
Daily reminder that any posts with "wow", "really", "so", and "lol" are tells for cognitive dissonance:
>Trump voter needs to be told the definition of human rights
I'm very surprised.
Colton Murphy
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Benjamin Taylor
something will be hanging alright But instead of them it'll be traitorous leafs like you
William Barnes
FUCK TRUMP LEGALIZE POT
Landon Taylor
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Jacob Scott
>all polls within moe despite oversampling Democrats and using 2012 voter turnout models
I agree, we should move on.
Evan Gomez
>tfw if men weren't so thirsty throughout history we could have bred out the chestlets and all women would be large breasted
Daniel Scott
Short of killing someone on 5th avenue that isn't David Duke Trump has the election in the bag
Is this statement true? Why? [10 internet points or a cute girl]
Grayson Sullivan
I can't wait for Breivik to break out of prison.
Ethan Allen
Whassup googas
Julian Ortiz
Why do you even use Cred Forums? We all get bored but come on.
Colton Parker
Perhaps Scott Dilbert will rethink Trump's stance on passing new libel and slander laws so it's actually possible to sue pieces of shit like Buzzfeed and Salon
David Perez
>"no argument" He's assimilating.
Jordan Cruz
Wow that's legitimately rude and stupid. Why do people feel entitled to just shit all over on people they disagree with?
Angel Diaz
We should do something to help him. He's been genuinely invaluable this year, yeah he had stupid predictions, but he's got a better sense of the big picture than anybody, other than perhaps Trump. The comments on there are asylum tier.
CNN committed actual libel, quoting Trump as advocating racial profiling. It wasn't a mistake. They're all going to do it until the election. The lugenpresse is insane.
Alexander Harris
hurting my feelings leaf, never gonna buy syrup again.
Nathaniel Perry
Cred Forums = Cred Forums
Dominic Martin
I used to be a massive Trump supporter, but after he recommended on his twitter account that people look up a sex tape I realized that I could no longer back such a vulgar, crass man. I am now a #HillShill.
Henry Gonzalez
The democrats have been hemorrhaging voters since the DNC vote rigging fucking of Sanders, while Trump has been growing the republican voter base.
Anecdotal example my girlfriend (white, educated RN working for the VA) registered and will vote for the first time in 8 years because she likes Trump. All of her colleagues are the same way even though the talking shitheads on the news are trying to lay claim to the educated white woman vote.
Charles Richardson
>slate.com
Luis Garcia
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Grayson Bennett
Here is one more thing:
pic related is the Reuters distribution of sample by party affiliation.
Notice how many more democrats are sampled at their polls as compared to republicans.
At the same chart there is one thing that is very much apparent:
Notice, when they let the sample size get more equal with the numbers of democrats and republicans being almost the same, how Trump's numbers rise at the same time.
Then notice, when they make the number of democrats much higher than that of republicans, how Trump numbers decrease at the same proportion.
Reuters is an online poll so this can be caused by their self selected sample but anyway it is clear that the more they oversample democrats the worse the results are for Trump and vice versa.
See the picture, zoom in to see the fine detail and you guys will understand what Im talking about.
> Reuters
David Martin
>Not all republicans are registered members of the republican party Like me :^)
Noah Flores
RIP Drumpf 2015-2016
Luke Martinez
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Adam Lopez
Holy fuck what a savage.
Anthony Miller
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Xavier Hernandez
Ctr shitposting shill thread backfires Looks like wall street and the 1% are backing Hillary Clinton. Why would this be?
Robert Edwards
Wow this Basement dwellers comment must have them in panic mode.
Colton Young
So a couple things;
Unbiased for either side, how do overall polls look at the moment and how much of it was affected by the last debate?
When is the next presidential debate?
Will there be a civil war IF Trump loses? Unlikely as it may be.
And what country do I move to if civil war is not initiated in the event of a lose? I was thinking Iceland or Russia.
Christopher Rodriguez
>mfw an Alaskan scrimshaw board full of pantsless frog posters is the invisible glue holding together an emerging nationalist political philosophy movement that's reshaping the entire world and defeating the juice
Ayden Flores
>it's all feminists and betas Sounds about right for her
Easton Ramirez
As we can see, that Florida doctor was 100% correct about Clinton voters being low-T numale cucks.
Adrian Collins
>tfw if only MJ was here he'd help Trump
Adam Watson
>white people would ruin their culture
Justin Jones
Drumpf lost so hard in the debates Collapsing in polls Behind in Florida All hope for him is lost
Ayden Sanders
>I used to be a massive Trudeau supporter, but after he recommended on his Grindr account that white genocide was necessary. I realized that I could no longer back such a vulgar, crass man. I am now a #LeafBlower.
Dylan Butler
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John Perry
What do you consider "basic human rights"? The right to self-defense? The right to free speech? The right to property?
At this point it's obvious you're just a shitty ebin trole but if you have an IQ above 90 maybe this will actually make you think
Or are you going to define "basic human rights" as the right to a basic income, the right to health care, the right to marriage, the right to immigrate, the right to never be offended, etc.
Camden Harris
Yeah, good point. Mexico has an existing fence on their Southern border and now, after Nieto met with Trump want an actual WALL there and are fine with a WALL between our two countries.
Zachary Thompson
NEW THREAD
SOMEONE ELSE WILL HAVE TO MAKE THE NEXT AS I'M OUT FOR TONIGHT
Jaxon Adams
I want everyone to go out with cameras on November 9. I want to see libtards howling, sobbing, screaming in agony. I've suffered too much this cycle. They must pay.
Eli Johnson
youtube.com/watch?v=A5zebaFFsQY Apparently Alex Jones offered a $5k reward to anyone who could get this shirt on TV, *legally*. Better luck next time dude.
Jordan Watson
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Jacob Miller
Madame President, Hillary Clinton!
Brayden Ward
yes, i'm sure that, among all 100 blacks in florida, 92 of them will vote for clinton
Leo Powell
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John Garcia
>And what country do I move to if civil war Go die in a fire rn you pussy. This goes beyond the election
Caleb Baker
kek
Cameron Scott
And that's the black vote she HAS to have. Notice anything about the attendees? >elderly >with grandkids >people walking around not even listening to her attentively
Parker Perez
>We should do something to help him. Just buy his book.
Jayden Long
>Unbiased for either side, how do overall polls look at the moment and how much of it was affected by the last debate?
Clinton is leading. Some of it is caused by a debate boost, but there's some evidence that some of the polls may be getting tilted to exaggerate the effect to play into a "Drumpf is over" narrative.
>When is the next presidential debate?
10/9
>Will there be a civil war IF Trump loses? Unlikely as it may be.
We're more likely to plod along in malaise under Clinton until she gets us into a war with Russia/China.
>And what country do I move to if civil war is not initiated in the event of a lose? I was thinking Iceland or Russia.
Stay where you are and fight for your home. My home state was ruined by right-leaning people picking up and leaving when things got increasingly leftist.
James Scott
>when you're trying to take a shit and some asshole tries to give a political speech to you
Bentley Davis
The guy in that .gif ends up in a homosexual relationship with the president of the world that the entire show was building up to.
Josiah Brooks
If civil war IS NOT initiated you fucking retard. Learn to read the whole thing.
Brandon White
I usually only use it when making fun of shills (so ironically) or when something actually shocks me (unironically). But on the whole, I do agree.
Colton Clark
that's implying all men prefer large breasts, which is objectively false
Noah Barnes
So you can't define it then?
Jacob Phillips
it's been october for 13 hours or so, give them some time
Asher Johnson
suspicious as fuck... throws entire poll into question... No doubt blacks favor Hillary, but 1% is just unbelievable... Even 10% in national polls is questionable, but far more believable...
Levi Wood
polls don't represent people who are likely to turn up on election day
people only get off their asses when they're excited for a candidate and hillary clinton is not somebody people are excited about
Charles Thompson
>guy requests clarification >U IS DUM nice debate skills, you'd fit in well in the first grade
Landon Parker
Trump in nosedive basically.
The skewed polls maymay is bullshit. Cred Forums pushed it in 2012 where 538 turned out to be completely right with every single state, even Florida where most pollsters just said "You know what, it's a toss up, we won't even bother looking at it right now".
RCP was mostly right, however still somewhat off to the Rmoney side.
The debates matter plenty and can swing an election either way. Clinton came out presidential and Trump was constantly interrupting and had the audience laugh him out. Best of all he actually thought he did good and even commended the host on his job, until his advisors all told him that he fucked it up and hence the "Host was unfair" banter was born.
Ryan Taylor
>AMERICA: HILL YES.
I get it, it almost says "hell yes", like it's almost cursing but it's not so it's just barely family friendly, of course with the nice pun on Hillary's name.
wow that slogan REALLY makes the neutron cells in your cranial membrane tingle. where does she find such clever slogan creators?
Cooper Smith
what a bizarre metric
Justin Myers
>not being a wealthy Indian prince and hiring your favorite Indian politician to give you a private speech in your royal bathroom