Why have children?

>anime and vidya is getting better and more plentiful
Stopped reading right here. This is obviously bullshit

Hate to break it to you but life's meaningless either way
>don't have kids
>live a fun and happy life
>die
vs
>have kids
>live a tiresome life, broke with no free time, anchored to your job and wife and town, unable to escape or do anything you want to do
>die anyway

Your nose is poking me, Rabbi!

>your only purpose for existing is to reproduce
See, the thing is though, I have the choice to not reproduce. Who cares what my "purpose" is? Who determined that? I sure didn't.

bull shit. my purpose is whatever i want it to be. there's no value whatsoever in 'building a family' you idiot. the 'life of men' isn't meant to be anything. it's just something that happens.

retard everytime you see a semi attractive women (or man in your case) your dick doesnt get hard just for no fucking reason

You get a boner every time you see a hot chick?
Are you 14?

Watching anime is easy and fun. Playing vidya is easy and fun. Do either of those activities build character? When you turn off the screen, what do you walk away with? Nothing. You've spent hours and have done nothing to further your life.

Life is not supposed to be easy for men. It's supposed to be hard. Women and children have it pathetically easy. But easiness does not build character, challenge on the other hand does. Toil, discipline, and hard work are not fun but they reap the greatest rewards life has to offer. Hedonism reaps nothing other than decay.

fuck drumpf and white people

the 'reason' for it doesn't matter to me. reproduction doesn't matter to me. i have sex because i enjoy it, and i thwart the actual purpose of sex from taking place.

what kind of a fucking idiot thinks he has to do what his biology wants to do... go kill yourself.

At 35, you still have time.

At 55 or 65, your existence becomes pathetic. A shell of a man, whose only passions are the instant gratifications of pornography and prostitution, who never achieved the emotional and intellectual maturity born from compromise and self-sacrifice required to build a stable marriage, whose interests and hobbies are nothing more than a transfer of wealth to those with a far stronger creative drive and ambition, and who will never have the opportunity to pass whatever meaningful life experiences and knowledge you may have amassed over your ultimately meaningless life.

As you grow older, and hedonistic pleasure ceases to satisfy your frail body, you will lash out in desperate nostalgia for the "good old days," because the present brings you nothing, save for you impending death.

Yeah that's where I'm heading, not really out of choice though. But I try not to feel bad about it. Never been a better time to be free. Your nation doesn't even need you to have children. It can just import more humans as needed. It's cheaper for them. In fact, looks like they'd rather you not have children. It interferes with their demographic plans. Your culture is dying no matter what you do.

But what's the alternative, just work for money and entertainment until you die? Doesn't this all feel meaningless? I'm getting tired of this. Now I read more and I have my coding projects. I don't play vidyas all that much anymore. VR is going to be awesome though. But those are just diversions. I know I'll miss not having a family at some point. It all depends on finding the right woman for it I guess.

Most of the people I know who married and have had children are doing great and I envy them. Dunno where the meme that they're all miserable comes from. Those who have become miserable were mostly dumb asses who obviously got with the wrong person (or that are the wrong person), or that miss partying everyday like idiots.

Some of them had big projects going on (like their businesses or research) and don't have the time for children, or it would interfere with it too much, and those I could see being justified not having a family. But it's not like I have anything important like that going on.

If you're not gonna have a family OP, at least have a great project. A meaningful one that does some good. We're not meant to be aimless and just cater to our primal needs and do anything to distract ourselves until we die.

what good does that 'character' do for you? there's no point to more toil, discipline, and hard work than you need to survive and have fun.

who cares at all.

>what kind of a fucking idiot thinks he has to do what his biology wants to do
good goy

just from the man boy responses itt its no wonder white 'men' are fucked

>Silence
Not with this loud as all fuck tinnitus I don't. Only silence I can listen to is the Sonata Arctica album which btw is a very good album.

Could I convince you, a 35 year old German with a comfy af 95k/y job, to send some of those euros to me?

They really convert to a lot of money here.

One leaves a lasting legacy on earth and another doesn't

My dick doesn't get to decide.

It doesn't matter either way, though. You don't have kids, you die, ends of story. You have kids, you die, your kids have kids, then they die, their kids have kids and die, theirs have kids and die. The end result is dying no matter what.
If there were two ways to cross a street, and one way was using the crosswalk, while the other way involved dragging your dick through a mile of broken glass, would you choose the latter just because it was harder?
>oh wow using the crosswalk is so easy, you don't don't get anything out of it so I'd rather voluntarily make myself miserable because I'm a man

I guess at some point in every man's life you realize the purpose of life is to procreate to secure your own immortality.

Men are supposed o go to war, discover important shit, get powerful, not gay-ass-shit like raising kids or getting married. It is boring as fuck, women are the ones that enjoy marriage and the status that come with it, for men it is a pointless endeavour. Men want to fuck a chick in every city, travel the world and dominate nature and their inner self. Marriage is the death of a man's soul, it is the day he submits to societal roles and becomes a prisoner.

have fun growing old and dying alone knowing youre responsible for the death of a billions years old lineage.

>lately all of the games have been shit except for a few.
QFT, but there is still hope for games from asia

Kek blessed my post!

It feels amazing to live only for yourself. I'm saving most of my income and will be able to survive off capital gains by the time I'm 30. I get the rest of my life to do literally whatever I want, while everyone else is working the 8-5 to pay for their McMansion mortgages.

Hah, it's hardly a lasting legacy. Do you know your great grandfather's name? What about his grandfather's name? People are only remembered from maybe 3-5 generations, after which their life was just as insignificant as anyone else's. You won't leave any legacy. You won't be remembered. No one will care. We all die and fade away. Nothing changes that.The only thing that matters is what we do right here, right now, and neither of us are doing anything notably significant.

should or shouldn't is just perspective...
It doesn't exist, there's no certain way you are "supposed" to live.
Unless your a bible thumper or something of that sort

You need to be an adult before you think of having children, so probably best if you don't

That's the problem with modern society: No sense of duty, no nationalism. Go ahead, don't have kids. Mohammed thanks you for your generous contribution to the death of your people.

>being a manchild

stupidity

>my life work has been watching japanese cartoon girl go to high school

What's wrong with that?

>Your own immortality
So I'm securing this guy's immortality? What if I don't reproduce but my sister's do? Am I fucked or does the seed keep going and eventually allow me to reborn again?

You're pissing your 50's and 60's away by not having a kid. When your body starts to go who will look after you? My life is so bad if things don't change quickly I will have to commit an hero at 40.

there is quite enough children in the world lol, many of which will have horrible unfulfilling lives because their parents cant sustain or educate them

I suppose if you don't understand why building character is important your are beyond saving.
And I don't say that in an insulting manner. It is that kind of thinking that will destroy our nation and it's probably not entirely your fault that you think the way you do.

Keep doing what you're doing though and one of these nights when you're up at 2am grinding in WoW (or playing whatever), you'll get a hollow feeling in your stomach like you're doing something wrong. That's your subconscious telling you to get out into the world and doing something of actual value.

kill yourself

7 billion people in the world, only 1 billion of which are white, the other 6 billion reproduce at a rate 2-3x that of white people.
You really think your 2.4 kids will save the white race?

>kids not worth money
why do you millenial cunts put a price on life and love?
no wonder western civilization is fucked

No. I enjoy living.

>robo waifus coming soon
>sex toys are becoming better and less taboo
Seems to me like you're against sex all together. You know you can have a gf or a wife without having kids right?

>living past 50

What are you looking for? The new geriatric diapers? What a sharter

>Enjoy dying alone after a life of meaningless hedonism.
vs. what, a life of drudgery, shame, and crushed dreams?

>In your final moments as you drift away you'll think of the family you could have built.
And praise allah that I didn't fall into that horrible pit of snakes.

>You'll think of your grandfathers who toiled so that you could live your wasteful hedonistic lifestyle
Wut M8? All toil for my lifestyle was done by me.

>The life of men isn't meant to be 'fun' or 'stress-free'.
[Citation Needed]

I like you

We still dominated them and the rest of the world even as minorities

Not alone, but the saving of the West has to start somewhere.

Congrats, now your race is lost forever and replaced for 3rd world sandnigger goatfuckers.

the white race is a lame horse. it cant be saved, but the individual doesnt have to share the same fate as the collective.

WE NEED TO OUTBREED THE NIGGERS AND SAND MONKEYS. DO YOU FUCKING JOB AS A WHITE MAN

>The life of men isn't meant to be 'fun' or 'stress-free'.

Says who

Because children are irritating parasites.

>your vidya wont love you
>your anime wont sleep next to you
>your vidya wont give you a back rub after a stressfull day
>you cant watch your anime grow up and become succesfull
>one day you will be old and gray and only have games and anime sitting in a shelf or on a hard drive and it will mean nothing to you, and the only thing you can do is look for some other meaningless distractions to pull your attention away from your sad reality of nothing

I'll either be dead or transferred into the matrix by then.

This nigga gets it.

I'm named after my great grandfather. So, ofcourse I know of him and know stories about him.
I don't give a shit about any of that, though.
Life is for the living.

Not that the other 6 billion are all the same race or get along nicely either. Especially not the Asians. I think the future really goes by the blending of all races, it will come naturally with the advancing of our technology.

Is that what mummy and daddy told you?

Yeah, back when it was okay to genocide them and enslave them and put borders around them. Now a plane ticket will get anyone anywhere in the world in a few hours. How do you plan to dominate 6 billion people at this point?

I agree entirely. But not every man has a high enough IQ to discover a breakthrough. Not every man has the ability or desire to become some supreme being. Marriage and rearing children isn't the most glorious or valorous fate, but it is by far the most practical choice for the majority of men in a society. And it is orders of magnitude better than spending your life watching anime.

If marriage had no merit we wouldn't have employed it for thousands of years, friend.

Alcohol helps

What tells you your kids will visit you once you get old and not care for their lives without the burden that you've become?

The ugly face of MGTOW, kids.

I want kids but I fucking hate babies and toddlers. They're horrible. I'd rather adopt kids once they hit 5 or 6 so they can be in school half of the day.

> stop having kids
> anime
> germany

>vs. what, a life of drudgery, shame, and crushed dreams?
No, versus a life where you built something that can last beyond your own short time on this earth.
>And praise allah that I didn't fall into that horrible pit of snakes.
Irrelevant strawman.
>Wut M8? All toil for my lifestyle was done by me.
Being born in a society shaped by previous generations is an advantage so great it can hardly be recognized, I supposed. And if your grandfather didn't get off his ass and provide some worth, he wouldn't have gotten a wife and had children that lead to you even existing.
>[Citation Needed]
Even the ancient greeks realized that surrendering to your vices and hedonistic desires doesn't make you free, it makes you a slave.

this is not learnt, you are born a man or not

Trust me, it really is very different when they're your own

don't yet. Have when Mars mission roles around.
Then go and colonize.

>i don't need love
>my anime WILL sleep next to me (pic related)
>i don't have stressfull days
>i won't watch my daughter marry Muhammed and tell me I should pray to Mecca more
>one day you will be old and gray and only have photographs sitting in a shelf or on the fridge and it will mean nothing to you, and the only thing you can do is look for some other meaningless distractions to pull your attention away from your sad reality of nothing

The world is vastly overpopulated as it is. If anything we need to be reducing the population, en masse. Now run along, paki.

.
>If marriage had no merit we wouldn't have employed it for thousands of years
It was a technique to help ensure the survival of one's offspring. The father could provide food and protection while the mother raised and nurtured the child. It was a symbiotic relationship.
Now we have public schools and grocery stores, the two parent system was replaced by convenience, and immediately fell apart. If it worked, divorce rates wouldn't be 60%

This. Weebs are worthless subhumans that should commit suicide ASAP.

>doing something of actual value

value isnt inherent in anything, its placed there by people.
Should he forget his own values (i.e his personal freedom) in order to chase after values of the societal norm?
Think for yourself and decide what you personally want in life, if he thinks kids are a waste of time and isnt all that interested in society or humanity then so be it.. theres quite enough children in the world

It's not about domination, it's about securing a future for our race and culture beyond being a slowly dying minority in our own countries.

Why should I commit suicide? I enjoy my life of video games and anime.

you won't be saying the same when you're 65 and alone, with health problems.

just sayin.

Talk to India and China about that overpopulation problem. You can't have white tribes without white people, and whites are a global minority. If you're a white MGTOW, you don't get to complain about overpopulation unless you hate whites.

There are plenty of healthy 65 year olds.

Most people are too selfish to care about the elderly, even their descendants. They think just because they get married and have kids it will give their lives meaning later on. All of my friends are either married or have kids and are envious of my lifestyle. I work hard and play hard, and despite the warnings in this thread, I have plenty of family and friends who love me.
Work, succeed, have fun, sleep around.
Conquer the world and yourself. If you have time after all that, settle down with a younger girl and start a family, but relationships rarely work out these days.
Because, like I said, people are selfish.

ITT: Anons project their fear of dying alone onto everyone else.

>have kids
>be 65
>they just shut you away in a nursing home anyway

>instant gratifications of pornography and prostitution
Sounds good to me.

>not finding a smart qt 3.14 to produce enough children to outbreed the muds that currently occupy most of our countries

Mars won't be sustainable for life. We would have much better luck with Europa if we could reach it.

Would be weird having Jupiter in the sky all the time tho

>All toil for my lifestyle was done by me.

This is where you're wrong. Western civilization was won with the blood, sweat, and tears of men who didn't give two shits about 'fun'. They worked their asses of their whole life so that this nation could live in comfort. You were born into a world of advanced technology, advanced medicine, advanced living conditions all created by the men who came before you. Look at the world around you and think about how much you actually contribute.

You'll find that it's others who are largely responsible for the quality of your life.

Loan me 100,000 dollars german bro and i'll make you millions

>I suppose if you don't understand why building character
implying becoming a wage slave is "character building"

All life is worthless.

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, dude.

It's a losing battle, though. It's impossible to win. The only reason we did was well was because we made the rules, but now we're playing by house's rules, and the deck is stacked against us. If every race maintains the same reproduction rate, Whites and Asians will just be engulfed by the browns and blacks.
You HAVE to do something more than just maintaining status quo in order to get a ahead. You have to either raise white reproduction rates up to 12 kids per person, which isn't happening, or do something to drastically reduce the population of nonwhites and keep it down, like we used to do.

The incentive for men to marry has been removed by government policy.
The incentive for women to divorce has been added by government policy.

Just as government intervention ruins the economy, it ruins marriage.

Yeah, but... But... Muh dick! Life is meaningless, anyway!

Not worthless, pointless

Why does life exists in the universe then?

This, the minute the 'working women' became shilled and almost universal was the minute the nuclear family died.

That being said, don't fall for the hivemind and start believing that you have any power over the faith of the white race or your country.

Jesus, there's some sad bastards on here.

If you're relatively well-balanced, have a supportive partner and know how to love, kids are fucking awesome

Pointless for you but not for the micro organisms that you are made of. They keep your engine going either you like it or not.

A fluke

>Everyone who isn't interested in marraige is MGTOW.

So are video games. And video games are much cheaper.

There, there, it's almost over...
WINNING

>everyone complains about low birth rates
>no one wants to have children

This is why the west is doomed.

Nah. We need to remove Jews and everything else will fall into place.

This is why the west is dying

>why do you millenial cunts put a price on life and love?
GTFO with that feels shit. Men use their ability to reason and make decisions based on facts and reality, not feels and certainly not lizard brain bio-impulses.

Then you had better stick to pixels on a screen, it's much safer

Billions of stars in the universe aren't a fluke

They are also not life.

Asians reproduce way less than whites and still manage to be homogenous because they disallow foreigners.

I would suggst america should just tax the ever loving shit out of companies proven to hire illegals so no company hires them. They come here cause its cheaper to pay paco 2.25 an hour than tom a wage of 7.65. Also implement some sort of immigration ban or severely reduce immigration by giving out less visas, family reunification and refugees. Make english a requirement for citizenship and revoke citizenship of all new citizens who don't have a job within 2 years. spics will go across the border and problem solved.

Retards complain about low birth rates. Smart people go to the (((root of the problems))).

...

Low birth rates are fine as long as we stop importing subhumans. All my white friends are getting married and having kids, what difference does it make if I also do so or not if suddenly the government decides to import 3 trillion muslims?

>i don't need love

makes sense you dont need what you've never hade

>my anime WILL sleep next to me

no thats a pillow, just because it has a face does not change that fact

>i don't have stressfull days

either you are doing something very wrong with your life or you are the most mellow guy on the planet

>i won't watch my daughter marry Muhammed and tell me I should pray to Mecca more

Cred Forums has memed you to hard

>one day you will be old and gray and only have photographs sitting in a shelf or on the fridge and it will mean nothing to you'

thats where you are wrong it will mean something, something you will most likely never understand

>inb4 muh anime means something to me

thats pathetic user

Haha cuck. I don't have any of that shit but still trying to have redhaired kids, add some fucking diversity to the white genepool since it's been polluted so much.

>and do something of actual value

*record scratch*

HOL UP

You mean to tell me after all the shit you just wrote. That at the end of the day you have to say to yourself "I am doing something so valuebal"

But did you one time ever think that VALUES are subjective? If a man is destined for war and glory, and he is killed in batttle surrounded by his brothers he fought for. And this young man only 19 has no wife, no kids. But if it was him vs you? You would die by his hands, and he would feel no value of your life.

if you need assuring about your live choices from anime board you probably are regreting some of them

Fuck off you morally broken man child.

ouch! that's gotta hurt

Nah, ain't going to convince you. Fuck off and die out. There are tons of people in germoney that will gladly replace your ethnic. What a fucking shame, and these were the people we warred with.

>One leaves a lasting legacy
That also means nothing.

>>your vidya wont love you
Love is a bullshit biochemical response to getting your dick wet and nothing more. How about transcending your bio-impulses instead of being a hormone addicted cunt.
>>your anime wont sleep next to you
Probably because anime doesn't sleep, get your shit together Tyrone.
>>your vidya wont give you a back rub after a stressfull day
Not yet, but haptic feedback VR isn't that far off.
>>you cant watch your anime grow up and become succesfull
Sure you can, I've seen many anime series become successful.
>>...your attention away from your sad reality of nothing
Nice opinion

Wow...I'm dumbfounded at the responses in this thread. This board is really full of weeboos that don't know anything about the joys of a family. I really feel sorry for this world.

>makes sense you dont need what you've never hade

I had plenty of love that's why I don't really "need" any more.

>no thats a pillow, just because it has a face does not change that fact

So?? It's still sleeping next to me though.

>either you are doing something very wrong with your life or you are the most mellow guy on the planet

Neets don't stress.

>Cred Forums has memed you to hard

t. Mehmed

>thats where you are wrong it will mean something, something you will most likely never understand

Yea you project unto someone else the reason for your existence as if they are your property. Sad..

>inb4 muh anime means something to me
>thats pathetic user

You're pathetic! Everything means something to me. You mean something to me

Indeed, useless genes are useless
Darwinism in action

FAGGOT WEEBS SHOULD DIE

>Implying OP can build a family.

Kek

Nothing like a blunt talking Russian bro.

make it happen

>joys
>family
Pick one

What is the point of being a "real man" when "real men" are not of any special value to begin with.

Stop trying to define what men should be, or people for that matter. Times have changed, if OP likes anime and vidya better than "real pussy" who fucking cares?

Why does Cred Forums care so much about astroturfing their ideas of manhood and building a family. What if it's a fucking scam and you are in a trick trap?

It seems to me the only real rebuttle is some gladiator type of man that will neber exist in today's society because a big aggressive galute is of no fucking value to anyone.

I bet he can build an awesome pillow fort

Go back to plebbit, retarded namefag.

Yep, maybe you will grow up, but if you haven't experienced it, you won't understand, and I realize that.

Just order my htc vive, gonna show off to some nerdy girls in exchange for pussy :3

Im only happy in the car on my way to work.

I have to agree with OP.

I'm a MGTOW and right now in this legal climate, children and really any kind of long term association with women is too risky, the interference of the state has stripped away the benefit for men.

Instead I just focus on my career, make a really decent amount of money and travel the world and build stupidly fast gaming rigs to enjoy vidya with, spend all my time and money on me and a few loyal male friends.

If others want to get married thats your perogative but it would awful decent that if you do, you have a number of kids you're able to support rather than having the tax payers contribute.

>German
>Self obsessed man-child who doesn't care about the survival of his genes or race
Colour me surprised

You know this won't happen, no? The data indicates white people are not willing to have tons of kids, or any kid whatsoever, and there is very little you can do about it. The world will become a favela, enjoy western civilization final moments while you can. Your grandkids, if you choose to have them, will be tormented by the majority of shitskins and will probably have a terrible fate. Have mercy on them, don't bring them to this nightmare. Sometimes it is better to have not existed.

Why should he care? He'll be dead.

Haha holy shit

>right from the horses mouth

The only thing I miss is being able to get a nice table at a restaurant and eat withoit being judged for being alone.

I wish more singles would take over restaurants, because it is like a normie filter to go you need a date.

>Be namefag
>Muh feelings n shit
>America collapses and dollar loses all value
>Forced to kill and eat family to survive
Well, at least you'll get their nutritional value.

Quality is more important than quantity, That's how empires were built.
Some on this thread shouldn't procreate, it will increase the overall quality

Just get takeaway. You get to eat in the comfort of your own home and don't have to tip.

>Marriage and rearing children isn't the most glorious or valorous fate, but it is by far the most practical choice for the majority of men in a society
[Citation Needed]

>And it is orders of magnitude better than spending your life watching anime.
trashman.jpg

>If marriage had no merit we wouldn't have employed it for thousands of years, friend.
Marriage once provided men with economic, social, and/or political benefits which generally outweighed the costs of adding dependents. As these benefits are almost entirely gone from modern marriage, the practice is no longer advantageous for men and should be discarded.

Pathetic.

>Be ugly obese German
>blames women for being single at 35 without a family other than faggots on Cred Forums

We don't need to convince you, youre 35 watching anime. You're your own protection from starting a family

My genes will pass on, yours won't.
Goodbye forever, I survive and you don't.

I usually do, but I like the act of eating with someone and talking.

I literally hate everything about relationships. Except this going out with someone in society as my crutch was really helpful.

But the misery outside of our fine dining was relentless.

kek mckek

>be American
>get shot
lol retard

Nobody cares about your social constructs and special snowflake psyche.
Humans have no way to replace natural reproduction mechanisms yet.
Therefore, you refuse to reproduce, you die out. Someone else takes your place.
Simple fact you either accept or fuck off and fly into your ponyville.

hahha

>i passed my genes means i survive

no you dont you sad sack. you die just like the rest, you just have children based in half on your randomized dna, congratz.

>Muh Immortality

You have much more to worry about than children

You are the biggest joyless goy I've ever seen lol

Go pick up another OT shift to pay for your fat wife and your bratty kid you retarded pathological empathist.

>Love is a bullshit biochemical response to getting your dick wet and nothing more

explain parental love then, it sure ass hell aint about getting ones dick wet, or the love for ones pet or for a good friend

the fact that you think love is limited to getting ones dick wet makes me rather confident that you are exactly the type of person who wont ever experience the true beauty of life

>rest of your post

Woah there buddy i aint experinced enough to argue with your level of GBP and chicken tendies you are going to have to see a therapist for that

>Can't have quantity and quality.

Do you love Muslims, anyone. I bet your wife makes their dicks wet.

all the stupid cunts saying their genes will live on probably have not given the thought even they do produce offspring, will your offspring carry on your genetics? Thank fuck my kid is 20 and has his own family. I do worry about my grandchildren though. Their generation will be worse than these millennials.

>Americans think their children won't get shot
Plenty of retards in this thread.

its always been like that
you just gotta dig deeper to find the good ones now

Children are great you fag

My dog gives me all the love and comfort I need, and are objectively better companions than women

>not continuing your family tree
>not supporting the white race
REEEE
FUCK OFF MUHAMED

>Have kids
>Eternal genes
>Hillary starts war with Russia
>They all get glassed anyway

>I had plenty of love that's why I don't really "need" any more.

or your mother spoiled you so you turned into a manchild

>So?? It's still sleeping next to me though.

no its not sleeping, its just lying next to you because you put it there, it wont wake up, it wont look you in the eye, it wont smile at you, it wont ask you how your day was, it wont do shit for you

>Neets don't stress.

hence why i said
>> you are doing something very wrong with your life

>Yea you project unto someone else the reason for your existence as if they are your property. Sad..

yeah im not quite sure what you ment with this but im fairly confident that you did not understand my point

>You're pathetic!

eh its all about perspective

>Everything means something to me. You mean something to me

Here comes the micro penis spic to ruin another thread.

Sven here is dropping knowledge hard if any of you are smart enough to pick it up.

Just found out my wife is pregnant. We never planned on having children, didn't want them, loved all our nieces and nephews. Birth control failed.

It has already changed my life in ways I never fathomed. Turns the noise way down on the bullshit.
Turns out we still do have a purpose.

:-)

You're just going to prolong your life with that dissociative numbness of escape into hedonism until you die when your only biological purpose is to produce more little niggers. Seems legit.

Exactly. Eventually your line is going to die out anyway, so there's no point wasting your life in a family. Just have fun with life.

dude
everything means something to everyone
like it or not its the truth
buddah tier greatest tier

What's wrong with being a "manchild"?

>Do you love Muslims

well actually my wife is a converted muslim (atheist now)

They're jealous, if their lives are so great why are they bitching about manchildren.

Don't worry, Achmed will switch places with you and be the German father you were supposed to

I don't get aroused by just looks alone, has to hit one of my fetishes, what do I win?

>anime

Fuck off. Weebs shouldn't be having children. These people need to be gassed.

This. Also, they want validation for their choices. If they genuinely wanted to raise children for the sake of it, then they wouldn't be bothered by people like OP.

>This is where you're wrong.
[Citation Needed]

>men who didn't give two shits about 'fun'.
[Citation Needed]

>They worked their asses of their whole life so that this nation could live in comfort.
No, they worked to survive and get laid.

>You'll find that it's others who are largely responsible for the quality of your life.
False. Others are responsible for creating those things which enhance my quality of life, but those things were not created with the purpose of enhancing the quality of my life. I alone have undergone the effort to gather those things and without my personal effort, those things existing would be completely irrelevant to my life.

Don't knock it until you try it.

I used to think kids were annoying as fuck (and still find most kids that aren't related to me very irritating) and thought I'd never have kids myself, but being a dad feels fucking awesome. If you like animals, imagine the satisfaction of having a pet multiplied by a very large number.

That said, if you don't have the energy or foresight to work at making sure your offspring are decent humans you're going to have a bad time, and I strongly suspect not everyone has what it takes to be a good parent - it's way harder than being a shitty parent but WAY more satisfying. If you're not interested and you're happy without kids it's not my place to tell you that you should breed (and I really don't care if people don't - I just get pissed off when people do and fuck it up), but it's also not your place to tell me it's pointless when you don't understand what it's really like.

Remember being a kid and being confused about the crazy ways love and sex make adults behave? Well that's where you're at right now with parents - you don't understand their motivation because you can't understand how they feel. Not trying to suggest you're immature or something if you don't breed, but that's the best analogy I can think of right now.

>Why does life exists in the universe then?
The existence of something has no bearing on its value.

THIS THIS THIS THIS
a good leaf post
now thats something i didnt see in a while

You're 35 so yeah its too late for you, fag. Enjoy dying alone.

The future for americans kids looks pretty dark and gloomy. I bet when they are living off foodstamps starving, unemployed, sick with a multitude of issues, and dealing with an even more dead western world, they'll be thinking " thanks dad and mom! I'm so glad you passed your genetics on to me and brought me into life just so you could feel cool on an internet website full of dipshits."

and this is exactly why we have peaked and are on the decline. Once progress stops which based on the NEET responses it has (because the general population feels the same way but still pop a few kids out) all of these 'white' countries are at the end stages of dominance and transitioning into 3rd world shitholedom

We have deliveroo now in the UK which is basically a 3rd party delivery service, they go to fancy restaurants, pick up orders and bring it to you, you just order/pay online.

I get it about 2-3 nights a week, becuase it's not takeaway quality its actually quite healthy and saves cooking and costs the same as going out. Single male life is so fucking easy mode it's not even funny.

>implying young women in their 20s won't go for an established man
wew lad

Anybody else getting an "Oy vey" vibe?

I'm white

>implying there's anything to ruin

I was the same way. Now I can't stop smiling. Everyone says, "you'll understand it when it happens, can't explain it, blah blah" and you think, "fuck off".
And then it happens and you realize they were right. I agree with you completely that it's not for everybody, but it's shocking how quickly I swung to the other side. Scary, almost.

>a 100 to the 10th millionth power 'fluke'
you are retarded

It's all subjective user, net everyone wants a family you fuck, can't you see how many humans there are already?

This is a terrifying post, but it's also true.

very unflattering pic of mara's mom's tits, but something tells me she is quite attractive, so would definitely inseminate

You've failed to be a receptacle for your genes in their important journey to....nowhere.

Ya I'll bet you'll be jumping for joy when you kid is born premature with some health issues. I'm sure your kid will be grateful for bringing them into a shithole. A shithole that even want to escape. Oh just wait bud, the bullshit is just turning up. Grab your ear plugs and shovel cause the forecast for your future most likely is lots and lots of shit.

>knowing whos tits they are but no face on the pic
whoa next level NEET

This thread speaks miles to why the white race is dying off

>explain parental love then
You got your dick wet, hormones flooded your body, it created a baby, baby is associated with hormone high. TADA

>or the love for ones pet or for a good friend
Point taken, it's not all about wet dick, but it is all a hormonal response. Being able to rationally evaluate situations rather than reacting based solely on hormonal impulses is what allowed humanity to become the dominant species. Do not reject that ability for rational evaluation because it doesn't feel as good as a hormone high.

Get married later.
When you're financially stable you'll have more time. Vidya and sex toys won't give you a happy life. The most beautiful thing on earth is a child's laughter only thing better is if it's your child with the right woman

>doesn't know Mara

Cum on step it up

Only makes sense that that would be her mummy

You don't think in the next 30 years anti-aging tech is going to progress massively?

>not watching the but/boob battle on the water next season

Shit taste user.

>all the stupid cunts saying their genes will live on probably have not given the thought even they do produce offspring, will your offspring carry on your genetics?
Seeing that estimates for paternity fraud are as high as 30% in some western countries, there is a good chance that the little tyke they are so proud of, isn't theirs at all.

yeah sorry im not a filthy pedophile

White knights m'ladying white women.

I'm not saying family is a waste it's just having children is a BIG decision. As a father.The cliché rings true here. Family can add but its not always peaches and cream and for the most part is isn't. I'm glad I had my kid in a different time somewhat. I could never bring kids into this shithole today with the way the world currently is. I worry about my grand kids big time.

>bad to die alone
Sorry for the bad news, Juan, but we all die alone

Having a family does not guarentee you won't die alone.

>newfag telling anyone what to do

Yup and if they were real Family guys, they wouldn't be posting a shitboard . They'd be helping tommy learn to fish orteaching suzie to be a respectable woman. Ten buck says timmie is infront of the xbox and suzie is taking nudes on her new iPhone and shopping them around town.

>seams like a noble tougth but i seriously doubt it, unless you are buddah tier

You don't need to be a Buda, it's really simple to rationalize that everything means something, I am grateful the knowledge of past generations allowed me to be born into a reality where tuberculosis is not a thing and we have electricity. I intend to enjoy all those things and they all mean something to me. You are somehow part of one of those things and you hold meaning to me.

> it wont wake up

I won't wake it up becaue it's slepping... good grief how cucked are swedes these days... get obliterated kid

I can spend money on as many sex toys, hookers, porn, and sex bots as I like, I could fuck a thousand women on Tinder. But none of that is equal to the loyalty and dedication and passion of just one person who loves you. I wish you well, OP.

>21st century American women
>dedication and passion
tip top wew

>be from rich family
>be hikka
>mother worried no gf
>finally tells me she'll get me an obedient wifu to make grandkids for her and clean my house
HALP

>the legacy argument

What's the point of it if you won't be able to comprehend and appreciate anything when your consciousnesses ceace to exist after death anyway?

TAKE IT
the rest of us have to work hard to get that

Children are such a hassle and a drain. Do things that make YOU happy. YOU are what's most important, in all things! Enjoy YOUr life.

You're making an excuse for yourself if you think the only reason that YOU can't find a dedicated woman, that YOU can't experience the passion of someone that loves you is because you live in the West. Go out and find someone to share and enjoy your life with.

this

we all die alone.

All biological traits we have are there because of evolution by natural selection, including parental love.

It's fairly simple reason, parents that took care of their children had children more likely to survive past puberty to reproductive age and be capable of further reproducing and spreading these genes.

Both pair bonding with partners and affection for children are both chemical processes that occur in the brain which produce dopamine and other chemicals which stimulate your pleasure center. It's a trick biology has come up with to encourage you to do things which absent that trick you would not do. Without that stimulus it's likely children wouldn't be cared for a die early in the wild and that means.

It's similar to say hunger, that's also an evolved biological trait that causes us to seek food so we don't die, but there's one key difference, hunger directly benefits us, where as reproduction does not, reproduction only benefits your genes and genetic line.

So the question becomes, if reproducing isn't in our direct benefit, why do it? If we can use logic to avoid that biological trap of immense amounts of time and resources, then isn't it just rational to do so. Especially when the only benefit of children (feeling good) can be triggered via other things such as directly with drugs or with video games or whatever.

The white race is doomed. I'm not bringing any children into this world where they will be at the mercy of liberal cucks and shitskins. The great light of humanity and civilization is dying, and we have nobody but ourselves to blame for it. We weren't strong enough when it counted and we let compassion for the weaker sex and the brown hordes rule us.

The end is coming, and we deserve it.

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Fuck off Shlomo, we will make tons of white kids

I like you OP. You own your life and do what you want.

Kids aren't from everyone. But at some point I'll settle down, find a (hopefully) good wife and start a family.

That'll never happen in my 20s though.

But if you don't ever want kids that's all right. Live your life for you. Fuck anyone who tells you otherwise.

Your childfree life might be great now, but do you imagine living the same way when you are 50+? Having children is kind of a reset button for your life, but instead of reliving your life you get to be there for another person experiencing life for the first time. Having a child brings you closer to society in general and children refreshes your relationships with pretty much anyone around you.

Imagine yourself childfree/less at a dinner with your parents in your mid 40s while they are close to 70, now imagine what it would be like if you brought grandchildren into the mix.

Even assuming our civilization is coming to end (it might very well be) that's no reason not to start a family. Move somewhere where when shit goes down, you won't have to worry about that. Buy land somewhere boring, like the Outback.

By the time we are 50 or 60 anti aging tech will be giving us the bodies of 30 year olds.

That or we will spend 90% of our lives in VR.

When i'm 50, i will still fuck girls and look great. What the fuck are you talking about sweed fag.

50 is not old if you take care of yourself. not a fat fag that smokes or eating unhealthy.

>Imagine yourself childfree/less at a dinner with your parents in your mid 40s while they are close to 70

When they are in the 70 the most important thing is to be happy with your parents and enjoy the time together. Don't understand the logic behind you need kids.

Nowhere will be safe. Do you think the African or the Arab will have any compassion for us? Do you think the Indians will come to our rescue? The Chinese or the Japs?

200 years from now white people will be an oddity, maybe the odd white woman will be kept as a high value sex slave. Compassion and mercy are uniquely white western traits. Can you think of ANY other culture on this planet that doesn't treat their fellow man like human garbage?

You will also having nothing to live for. You live the consumerist newage life of selfish soul crushing narcissism thinking of only your next purchase. Congratulations you will die with many many regrets. Germans have fully embraced consumerism and anti-cultural newage thinking, and that's why you all have such a low fucking birth rate and will have a nosediving unsustainable economy soon enough.

>You will also having nothing to live for.

What's the difference having kids or doing what you like?

Explain please, because everybody have a different opinion on kids. I can't stand them

>Driven by hunger, a fox tried to reach some grapes hanging high on the vine but was unable to, although he leaped with all his strength. As he went away, the fox remarked 'Oh, you aren't even ripe yet! I don't need any sour grapes.'

People who speak disparagingly of things that they cannot attain would do well to apply this story to themselves.

ITT: virgins justifying their virginity

Foxes don't eat grapes, you tremendous faggot.

They can take care of you when you're old and kikes stole all your money.

Acting selfishly for your own reasoning to "feel good" is no different than living as a heroin addict. It's disgusting and a worthless lifestyle with no purpose. You either create a better version of yourself and further humanity or make a big mark that people won't forget. Any other way of living is shit tier.

>he doesn't know the story

And do what for the next 50 years?

The story about how you're a well-adjusted, successful man? Yeah, I picked that one up in the fiction section.

I'm so fucking glad that I'm a pajeet shitskin so I don't have to have kids for preserving the race because there are already way too many of us fuckers on this planet.

...

Why not adopt instead? Why bring more suffering to the world? What if your child will born retarded?

Urge to reproduce is the ultimate selfishness, because deep down you know that if you don't there will be nothing worthy left of you after death.

>Keep doing what you're doing though and one of these nights when you're up at 2am grinding in WoW (or playing whatever), you'll get a hollow feeling in your stomach like you're doing something wrong. That's your subconscious telling you to get out into the world and doing something of actual value.

I really don't feel that, I just feel a satisfying sense of relief because I'm tired from work. Though I think this will apply to NEETs.

I'm not sure if I should even bother doing further discussions with you.

You most definitely should not.

>worthless lifestyle with no purpose.

having kids is literally the same so what is your point exactly? or are you just hypocritical.

>Muh me have life because my kids.

Wtf

>Acting selfishly for your own reasoning to "feel good"

That's literally what your brian was desgined for enjoy your meaningless life, because every human life is meaningless but what you get from it, the brain that makes all the magic to feel and enjoy and then die.

>implying

Yes life requires work, but people do have fun when they're not working. Case in point Ben Franklin, while doing important diplomatic work in his trips to France, he also fucked a lot of gals, so much to the point that Sam Adams actually wrote that it was hard to concentrate because he was constantly surrounded by hot skanks.

That's a coyote dumbass

>The most beautiful thing on earth is a child's laughter only thing better is if it's your child with the right woman

Not really, I've taken care of kids and honestly as fun as they are the poo poo pee pee and annoyance really ain't worth it imo.

Hey there kid. I'm sure you feel all high and mighty.
I did at one point too. I worked hard and got married and had a son.
My wife cheated on me and I tried to look past it for the sake of my son, but she kept pushing it further, doing terrible damage to my mental health and occasionally my physical health.
In the end, she was the one who filed for divorce. She would laugh in my face in private and then go to the court room with tears streaming down her face while I sat and boiled inside at her lies.
Every single person was against me and I lost just about everything.
Grow up and see how much you want to support those people and that system. I walk through every single day of my life silently wishing death on everybody I meet before I go home and spend my leisure time with anime and video games.

>Also the social pressure
What social pressure? Among my generation (I'm 26) there's pretty much no social pressure. In fact the few people I know who have had kids are looked at with a mixture of pity and bemusement.

>everybody have the same opinions.

Look, the reality is different. Not everybody want kids and that's it.

Maybe you're brainwashed to love kids but i'm not and i hate kids. So basically my life would be fine. Human life is too short to experience everything do that's my journey. have fun with babysitting children.

Sure. And you are not a kissless virgin.

But I do have drive and ambition to create. I code, I modify, I tinker with machines, I build and I design. Yea being a faggot who does nothing but jerk off, fucking hookers and watch anime is sad but I do have a passion in life. As for passing on experiences, I honestly could care less.

>Doing the jews' work
Good goy, let the shitskins outbreed you

If I'm too old to take care of myself, have self sufficiency or any quality in life, I'm too old to live. The day that happens I'll just blow my brains out or spend the rest of my days in a nursing home.

Having none guarantees you will.

>the white race is doomed
>therefore I will contribute to the cause

holyshit are you people this mentally retarded.

Please explain how you don't die alone?

literally give me a good reason. because on my knowledge everybody when they die die alone, you are not connected with a other person so you can die together at the same time.

That half is still mine though.
While both of your halves are lost forever.

Eventually you'll die so why not kill yourself now?

This post is so epic and so true that I had to write it down. Thanks user, may the souls of men lost in time rest by your side.

You're a burden to society and everyone hates you for it.

epic, epic for the win user!

There's really not more to say to it. OP is a selfish faggot and because he is he would dismiss any argument anyway. Useless thread, only worth to confirm that OP is indeed a raging faggot. The balls were a waste on him and his parents dun goofed.

Mom, reddit's lost again.

You die alone as in there is noone next to you when you die because noone cares.

Holyshit, you're literally me!!!

youtube.com/watch?v=czLYl4fM8yk

>Not just donating to sperm bank so It's another femin kinds problem
>Not mass producing your ancestry and never having to deal with the kid

>you are not connected with a other person so you can die together at the same time.

Waifubots will change that.

nhentai.net/g/93223/

dont have kids, you can just import muslims to have kids for you.

This is fucking nigga logic. Thanks anyway.

>muh nobody will care,

i'm dead who the fuck cares.

He's a dumb slav anyway.

Buddhism is pretty redpilled, it's just that western cuck "muh weed" types ruined it. Real eastern buddhist philosophy is god tier.

How do you know the last emotion you felt when you passed away won't stay with you forever?

At least I'm not a mongrel.

>this butthurt
wew lad

Having kids is gay.
Classic /pol

What kind of thought is that? Are you female?

Sure am.

It's a question noone has the answer to, there is nothing female about it.

How the fuck can your emotions be on when your brain is literally shutdown. which means dead.

Explain to me how your emotions still can be alive?

The same way when you sleep and wake up like it's was nothing how time passed away.

Time will literally means shit when you dead same with emotions.

This is the type of thing a teenage girl would write

Jesus has the answers.

Google the Fox and Grapes story so that you don't look like such a retard next time and embarrass me on behalf of my country.

>Sure am.
Acceptance is the first step, glad to know you yield to your superiors.

Your being is composed of the things you can comprehend, not the things you are made of.

Time passes quickly when you sleep because you're not really comprehending much.

What happens when the last thing you comprehend is sadness?
There is nothing after that, you don't wake up.
Then what?

Who gives a flying fuck?

What difference does it make if you die alone in a hospital bed, or die with 30 people sitting watching you? You're fucking dead.

Heaven isn't real, their is no afterlife. You're functionally brain dead and no longer exist.

Christ cucks can go fuck off with their imaginary after life.

They will.
But you're not capable at maintaining a long term relationship at this point.
Or it would have already happened.

You need to swallow a lake.

>At 35, you still have time.
If I'm still single and childless by 35 and I happen to have money, and I'm having no luck with any western women, my last resort is to just go to Thailand.

Dying will be easier with someone at your side.

oh boi, you're actually a girl?

What you talking about is nonsense.

Explain how can your emotions still be on when your brain is dead? no offence of your intellect.

Because the last thing you will be able to comprehend is sadness/regret.
After that you don't exist but you cannot comprehend nonexistence.

So having that last sadness lasting forever is a definite possibility.

I'm starting to think that a soulless gook might be superior to a traitorous white even if your kid turns out to be an Eliot Rodger.

Glad you agree.

Genetic legacy, you retard.

Why not kill yourself now you nihilistic fuck? :^)

This thread pretty much confirmed my suspicions that pol was filled with blue pilled authoritharian normies who are nothing more than a social reaction to the increasingly nutjob regressive left. A flip side of the same coin.

>nonexistence

If you sleep have 0 dreams and wake up and feel like time passed away like nothing.

That is the feeling of nonexistence.

I can't even take care of myself sometimes
Why would I create a goofy mouthbreathing little shitmachinwe to make things even more dificult?

It's why it would be a last resort. Given how far the money would stretch over there, it would be more than affordable to raise multiple children as well.

Plenty of animals migrate during mating season, maybe we should consider it as an option if it means better conditions.

They don't think it be like it is, but it do.

The feeling of nonexistence is how you felt before you were born.

Please do get some reading comprehension.

That's the point, there are no new emotions. It's just nonexistence.
But you cannot comprehend nonexistence without a functioning brain can you?

It's why time goes faster when you sleep, you're not comprehending anything.

The last emotion you comprehend might stay with you forever.

The key point being you wake up.
When you die you don't wake up.

When falling asleep you feel at least somewhat peaceful.

When you are dying alone will you feel the same?

The same logic what i meant. You don't have any memories of anything from that time you sleep and wake up. It's depends if you had any dreams. if none that's the same feeling of nonexistence.

is this literally your first day here?

Sir, I believe this belongs to you
*hands out fedora*

I guess Asians could get to something similar to whites but the niggers would just live in mudhuts forever.

Just be happy, gg vodkanigger.

Before you were born there was nothing to feel, there was nothing to comprehend.

But as you live your ego is composed of things you've comprehended and learned, you can picture your own life like a timeline.

As you cannot comprehend anything else when you die your timeline stops there but it does not end because you cannot comprehend an end.

I'm not sure any of you are getting my point.
Even if your body and brain decomposes that doesn't matter because that's not what you are.

You are not the body, you're what was felt with that body.

I gave a lot of thought to this and to me the best death would be dying painlessly while hugging someone you love.

You're borderline retarded. It's not surprising that we can't understand you.

Your argument is so retarded. Any difference between the time you don't remember or when you're born. none because your brain wash turned off but when it's turn on your memories will still be there because you're alive.
literally nigga tier logic.

Are women really this dense!

How the fuck can you have anything or feel anything when you brain is fucking dead. You're just a biological machine. When the hard disk dies everything is lost.

Or you want some fairy tale talks? so you feel little comfy

Whatever works for you, now return to your post-commie shithole.

Her argument is literally

>WHAT IF, PST HEY WHAT IF