"FALLING BIRTHRATES COULD SPELL END OF THE WEST"

Is he right?

telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/06/falling-birth-rates-could-spell-end-of-the-west---lord-sacks/

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Oy vey! We should import 6M shitskins now!

More like increasing birth rates if shitholes spells the end

No, he isn't. It could be the end of their easy living on debt slavery though.

I was reading a Wikipedia page that said one possible end of the world is low birthrates. they said if the whole world had germany's birthrate it would end by 2400 or somewhere around then.

>He warned that even mass immigration is not a solution because of problems integrating new arrivals into existing society.

falling birthrates is fine

falling birthrates + immigration = disaster

No.

Falling birthrates and uncontrolled massive immigration spell the end of west

Nah, just the end of the west as we know it. Our culture has become very weak and self-hating. The people they let in have a strong culture and hate ours and their birth rates are usually higher than ours.
But no, everything's fine don't worry about it goys.

fucking idiots.
when the birthrate decreases, over time there is more and land more resources available per person, then the population growth goes back up again.

then it gets strained and lowers when its too high.

lying jews just want never ending growth they can skim money from

The falling birthrates correlate with the second coming.

I reckon it will happen once the white race is extinct or on the brink of extinction.

No this is a meme. Technology and automation will allow us to be more productive with a smaller population. Birth rates will gradually go up when it becomes more affordable to have a kid. Stop the immigration.

No one knows how we got here.

Except we aren't restrained by resources, people just dont want kids and are ok with being genetic dead ends.

...

This man knows whats up!

I was expecting a celebrating merchant behind that tbqh. youtube.com/watch?v=IyFLm3pzhuk

Maybe the kikes should stop trying to turn everyone gay and destroying Christianity then.

Nope.

>He warned that even mass immigration is not a solution because of problems integrating new arrivals into existing society.

Why are more people not realising this?

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>falling birthrates is fine

No it's not you fucking morons because a civilisation is founded on its people and if there are no more people then there's no more civilisation

How fucking dumb are you?

Nein!
Doch!
Ooohh!! youtube.com/watch?v=w4aLThuU008

>a 1% drop in birth rate with a 5% drop is death rates kills everyone

really, [comment redacted due to pending UN resolution 25498725:24 due to hate speech and wording that could offend or be considered offensive to minorities and/or women.]?

You cucks letting it happen, most Jews don't want the West to die. It's just that you fucks are easy shit to brainwash by the globalists. Then blame us for the shit. Jews wanted Brexit, Jews want less immigration to America. Don't lump all of us Jews with the fucking globalists.

t. kike

Permanently falling birthrates is a disaster.
But that's not what we have here. People aren't having kids because there's too many of us in too small a space, there just aren't enough resources. After the population drops and more resources become available, the population goes up again. This is why the USA's white birthrate has consistently been so much higher than Europe's: we have more space and more resources.

Oh, yeah? How do you know that? What do your fellow Scholmo's have to say about it? Why exactly do they not want the West do die and whites to go extinct, contrary to our findings so far?

Only because of the invasion, without the invasion it would be self correcting. Like it will be in Japan.

In Western Europe we will end up in a situation where there aren't enough whites to pay for all the welfare the invaders feel entitled to, at which point shit will hit the fan.

people aren't strained by resources, they're strained by money as the lower classes get less and less than before.

boomers average wage was 20 an hour effectively even for basic work.

DAMN THOSE MILLENNIALS

Quality is more important than quantity. That's how you build empires

ahhh, I remember when I was a young liberal, convinced climate change was a clear cut science issue that had a rational solution

so I did some reading and came to the conclusion a massive expansion in nuclear power would "fix" the CO2 problem

then I became confused when "climate" activists rejected that completely, were these people not the smart rational ones?

it should be clear by now that this is a carefully planned social engineering project by the club of rome et. al.

>OYYYYY DON'T HAVE ANY MORE WHITE KIDS THAT THE PROBLEM
>YOU MUST ACCEPT "CLIMATE REFUGEES"
>VOTE FOR INTERNATIONALIST LEFT WING PARTIES OR THE WORLD WILL END
>NOOOO CARBON FREE SOURCES OF POWER ARE BAD, EXCEPT FOR THE USELESS ONES


wow, all science here, no manipulation and politics at all

No one in my group at the Synagouge supports immigration into the West. If niggers and sandniggers want better lives then they can change their shitholes. Believe what you will, but most globalists lump themselves into the "Jewish" category for a reason.

If we look at the raw numbers a falling population doesn't seem so bad.
The real issue is that some people seem bent on replacing the "lack" of people with an endless stream of foreigners.

> People aren't having kids because there's too many of us in too small a space, there just aren't enough resources

No they're not, they're having fewer kids because a) the culture of individualism and b) the growing gap between the super-rich and everyone else (which yes is a resources issue I guess like you say - normal people have far less wealth than they used to. I just disagree with your idea that it's about space, because it isn't. It's about wealth being sucked away from the working/middle classes by a small sliver of 1%ers).

>This is why the USA's white birthrate has consistently been so much higher than Europe's: we have more space and more resources.

Your birthrate is LITERALLY LOWER THAN OURS YOU FUCKING MORON

And declining

This isn't about space. Yes it is partly about resources but not in the way that you imagine. The resource problem is the super-wealthy sucking up all the wealth. And they all PREY on the culture of individualism that is making them wealthy, and spelling our demise.

how do you explain Canada? we are possibly the most underpopulated country on earth relative to our max carrying capacity

why don't Canadians have kids?

its called social engineering, its deliberate

sacks is jewish

fuck i hate these vermin

Trump's childcare plan has massive tax cut for married couples that have children, for up to four children with increasing breaks per child.

This could save the west by promoting the nuclear family and promoting childbirth.

That last paragraph is pretty poignant

That may be true for you, Mr. Goldstein, but the coincidence meme is true in Germany unfortunately. And in France they are the least likely to vote for FN, even though they are the only party which can do anything against the real islamization. Same in Germany, your diaspora allies with Islam and against AfD, allies with the people who actually want to kill your: muslims. And that after 70 years of uninterrupted democracy and Kekmany becoming so cucked, it actually becomes dangerous for other countries!

It's a disgrace!

>Note minority's could take advantage of this as well, but they would have to remain a nuclear family to do so. If they're actually capable of maintaining the nuclear family they're actually good people.

Also regardless of white or minority, they are likely to continue voting in favor of similar anti-gib policies that simply tax you less instead of taxing you more to give that money as handouts.

But they don't support the nationalism we need to protect ourselves either. When the choice is supporting kikes bent on white genocide or the only force which can oppose them, ie. Natsocs, you will support white genocide.

That's why you all have to be kicked out of all white nations and have any influence in white nations taken away from you.

Indeed. And it's entirely true.

What he says is spot on, so does it matter?

Do you hate Shapiro because he's Jewish? Personally I don't. I judge him on his opinions and many of them (but not all of them) are good

>Is this the end of the west?
Falling/flat/stable birthrates = the end of kike government ponzi schemes

Importing millions of niggers = the end of the west.

>Do you hate Shapiro because he's Jewish?
I hate him because it's painfully obvious when he's bought and paid for. The entire episode supporting Cruz when he was paid to do so was repugnant.

I just keep it in the back of my head that Shapiro is a money grubbing kike who will betray his own beliefs for the right price/circumstances.

> it's painfully obvious when he's bought and paid for

Oh look I've come across a stormweenie

The onus is on you to prove that my friend because it's a very wild and unfounded assertion

>have everything in the world
>only thing you had to do is having children
>...

the western world deserves it.

They're just realizing this now?

You're talking about boomers here, Polan

It's not economically viable to have children
It's not socially viable to have children
Educated women delay or refused to have children

The guy in the article still doesn't get it.

There is no reasonable solution. Only extreme solutions.

>It's too expensive to have children.
Fatimah and abdul get 8 children while on the dole. You could get the same. It's your demands that tell you, it's too expensive.

>Socially viable
Whatever that means.

>Wifey and gf would rather ride the dick caroussel in her 20s and study gender studies instead of becoming a mother and when she settles down she will have at best one child and maybe another one with the help of science
Yeah

wtf i love jews now

>You could get the same.

Wrong, faggot. Welfare is a code word for wealth distribution specifically meant to accelerate White genocide.

Welfare payouts are based on race, you fucking idiot. Niggers, spics, and kebab can all afford to raise 8 kids without a problem, and without the mother even having to work. Yet somehow my poor cousins struggle to raise one child each with both parents working.

Keep your fucking mouth shut until you know what you're talking about, until then you're just like a woman who bleats whatever useless shit pops into her head. Fuckface.

Fatimah is uneducated and religiously bound (her social group) to have children. Remove these and she too will not have children.

Yes I could have 8 children and live on the dole. This is not difficult. It would just make me very poor and a pariah. You are correct that I want more.

It's amazing that 70% of people seem to think the major problem with low birthrates is shrinking total population, rather than the relative ageing of the population. I see things like "So what if our population shrinks we will have more space and uh we don't need more growth dudebro???"

Low birth rates means new generations are smaller than older ones so the ratio of workers to pensioners becomes unhealthy. And as elderly become a higher percentage of the population they also become a higher percentage of the voter base, so will vote for their own interests. Look up Pensions Crisis and Dependency Ratio. The west will be crippled of Europe continues to have a very low birth rate and rapidly increasing pensioner population. The effects are happening already because in some parts of Europe the birth rates fell below replacement many decades ago and

It causes debt and sluggish economics depending on how much "gibsmedat" retirees want

I suppose the reason people don't know about demographic science is it's not really taught in schools. Demographics should be a class like Biology or Economics

>CLIMATE REFUGEES

I love how they blame nigger mismanagement on the CLIMATE

Nigga looks more like lord tay-sacks.

>Keep your fucking mouth shut until you know what you're talking about
Right back at you, fucking burger. Blow it out your fucking, circumcised cock parading ass! You HAVE access to same benefits as any "brown person" in this country. Just because you are living in burgerland and think free healthcare isn't free and a communist idea, doesn't mean you know what you're talking about.

People know this mate. I know this. Their won't be a pension by the time your or I get old.

>falling birth rates and immigration is going to possibly destroy western civilization

uh guys? even a RABBI LORD is saying things are getting out of hand

wat do?

I never got this line of logic.

If global warming is real, then we have to reach an equilibrium with our environment.

Falling birthrates should be a good thing in mostly consumer countries.

Models based on infinite growth shouldn't be used with limited resources.

If immigrants increase GDP, and the goal is to create a prosperous world, why not put immigrants into third world economies that need the growth?

Nome of it makes sense.

Actually supreme impoverishment is definitely the cause in America. Tripled cost of living with regards to the minimum wage since the 70s, plus massive student debt is making for a very VERY poor generation.

>free exists in any entity

more than 50% of your country makes like

Pray to kek for the happenings and watch the world burn!

yes, if you disagree with this, you are antisemitic

yup, thats why the smart man way is to make a few kids and spare some money meanwhile, best would to be have it in gold(subjective). meanwhile pay the least you can to the gov. thats how i intent to do it.

thats only a issue because of social retirement systems that are basically a ponzi scheme. btw im unware, I thought that america had 100% private retirement that actually accumulates money instead of speanding it on the current old people (thats how it works in poland, and all eastern european countries).

>pray to kek

Wrongo. Pray to God and his son Christ if you want to see the fulcrum of justice delivered to the throats of (((those))) who bash Their name in vain.

It doesn't matter, automation is removing jobs any way. Yes, the elderly want gibs, but in a cohesive society (such as say, Japan) they are less prone to just fucking over the entire nation in trying to get them compared to invaders. Nor do they reproduce exponentially like invaders.

The low IQ invaders are a run away destructive process, demographic shift is a temporary process white society could handle.

>Falling birthrates should be a good thing in mostly consumer countries.

No, its a devastating fucking disaster, then you have huge amounts of crippled old sick dying people and an ever smaller amount of productive young people. The enemy can then say "oh clearly the solution is to open the borders!"

ACA was a last ditch attempt to suck out all the vitality of the diminishing productive members of society and use it to sustain the hordes of dying, sick old people and to help subsidize health care for immigrants, as well as to cut unemployment by making everyone work less hours and requiring employers to hire more people. Its all of society's problems in a nutshell.

>birthrates need to keep going up

When will this meme die?

A population experiencing deflation is a good thing. It's called sustainable growth.

>repeating a meme will refute the point

God can sort it out in heaven, here on Earth we need National Socialism.

>free exists

So Joseph's wife's son is coming back to lead all the niggers to heaven? Does it mean we will finally be left in peace when they move off to heavenly liberia?

The result is economic collapse and an inverted productiveness pyramid as suddenly a few youngsters have to care, one way for the other, for shitloads of pensioners and other physically disabled people.

This is then used as an excuse by the multi cultis to import millions of shitskins, who like the old receive HUGE PILES OF FREE SHIT, further damaging the economy and social services alike, and are used as an excuse to import more hordes of shitskins, etc.

There is a reason most of your people are living only like 50 miles away from the USA, the rest of your country is like an ice version of Mongolia.

>he exists


and then user was enlightened

>free

Based.

I'm 100% sure that the hordes of leftist Christians (most Catholics especially) who think its a requirement of their faith to let in unlimited impoverished violent dirtbags are sincere in their retarded beliefs.

>tfw will never reproduce due to being an internet addict

Oh well.

>No they're not, they're having fewer kids because a) the culture of individualism and b) the growing gap between the super-rich and everyone else

No. That's propaganda. Don't believe that.

Young people have less children because they cannot afford them. Why they can't afford them? Because they are overtaxed. You want to fic demography? Fix the taxes.

when Cred Forums says that: muh racist, ehite supremacist
when jewish banker says it: hummm, we should do something about it

>and thus user discovered the true nature of anattah and received ultimate liberation

You're probably sterile because of the wi-fi already

The first excuse doesn't exist. It's sensationalist paranoia and it's a lie in macroscopic sociology. There is never an abundance of an aging population and the younger generation never experiences a pressure to take care of them. That's part of the memetic lie being sold to you.

Populations should experience a cycle of constant growth and then declining growth, to let the previous generation catch up and age, so that by the time the next growth comes, the population can die off and make room for the next generation.

As soon as you introduce more growth before that next population boom, you've fucked it for the new generation as the new generation now has even more people to compete with and social dynamics gets fucked and you're left with a massive population of underachievers who are less skilled and less rich as the previous generation on a per capita basis.

You pretty much dilute the populace like that.

Aging population is a GOOD THING.

>gratis

>most Catholics especially

Germany and Sweden the most cucked countries in Europe, both Protestant.

>Aging population is a GOOD THING.

Looks at post. Looks at flag.

It all makes sense now.

They are misled by (((those))) who speak for them, (((they))) who appear to be leaders of men, but are imitators and distractors.

In the Bible it tells you to treat a fellow man with dignity and respect, and that he should expect the same of you. If you are wronged you should not wrong them in turn, for that makes you both the better man. When your life and livelihood come into question, you must defend what is yours regardless.

"It is mine to avenge; I will repay. In due time their foot will slip; their day of disaster is near and their doom rushes upon them.” - Deut. 32:35

>Populations should experience a cycle of constant growth and then declining growth, to let the previous generation catch up and age, so that by the time the next growth comes, the population can die off and make room for the next generation.

People are having fewer kids than ever before in recorded history, while people are living longer than ever before in recorded history... arguments based off precedence don't work when there is no precedence.

No it doesn't and you know it.

too expensive

>Aging population is a GOOD THING.

Not economically.

The question is how do we fix it? I think that Japan actually found a solution. Close the borders. Get older people to work. Wait until the population stabilizes.

Oh, that's a shame. In America, Catholic voting patterns, and their degeneracy in the media, are indistinguishable from Jews, hence the humorous but correct "Hibernian Menace" memes.

Devil's Advocacy on Sweden: For their population, their deportation levels are VERY high.

>People are having fewer kids than ever before in recorded history,
There are more people than ever before in recorded history. People not having kids is a reaction to that increased population. This is a good thing.

>while people are living longer than ever before in recorded history
Also another reason why people are having less kids. Again, this is another good thing.

Having an abundant aging population when the next generation arrives is a GOOD THING because it ensures the next generation is not only given proper training and attention by the previous generation, but when they grow up that previous generation is gone. If you keep flooding new generations with younger people, they never get the opportunity to have the aging population's skills transferred as they are now being diluted by unskilled young population. They grow up around young people and don't experience the maturation they need.

The more you try to pretend like bringing in an influx of population to an aging population is a good thing, the more you show how many holes there are in that theory.

The honest solution is ruthless cuts to all welfare. If there is no pension you must make children to look after you in you old age. If there is no welfare you need a cohesive extended family unit to survive.

But who wants to live like that.

Yes, even economically. Especially in the long-term, which is what matters.

Short term economic booms are not sustainable nor should they be the focus of any serious civilization with long-term prospects.

Having a newer population be educated by an aging previous generation rather than an already young population will reap much bigger rewards for the future, even if the present state means a stagnant economy.

>could he be right
He IS right. I thought it was common knowledge the white race is dying out and quite rapidly too.

That choice of socks and shoes.

>People not having kids is a reaction to that increased population.

People not having kids is a reaction to being incredibly fucking dirt poor. I don't see how it could be spun as a good thing.

>The more you try to pretend like bringing in an influx of population to an aging population is a good thing

If by "influx of population" you mean immigration, fucking NOBODY in this thread is arguing that.

Who pays for the old people in this stagnant economy bro? Or do you just leave them to die?

I was on a walk ealier today and realized that London, the capital of the Brits is under complete Islamic control. The mayor is a Muslim, the police will be enforcing Islamic ideals and most of the schools are filled with and run by Muslims.
It and it will never go back. The idea of a British London is far gone.

Yes.

A cohesive society could easily accept a reduction in the standard of living without accepting invaders.

There is no need for immigration to fule endless economic growth. All we need to do is to accept we can not have everything, and live more like our grand parents did (or great grand parents).

We dont need to change our cars every year.
We dont need new phones and computers every year
We dont need single parent families
We dont need unemployment benefits
We dont need fancy food imported from across the world.
We dont need new clothes every month.

If we removed all the unproductive government spending society would take care of itself. One way or the other. If we became accustomed to spending less on trivial things then within a few years we would accept it as being normal and never notice the difference.

If we just got back to living with basics, if we accepted a standard of living on par with the 1950's, we would be fine.

Trouble is people are such greedy selfish and short sighted fucks. We have become soft and weak. That will inevitably be our doom.

This is a meme being sold to you to fool you into thinking importing immigrants is a good thing. The only thing forced immigration helps is the current companies trying to stretch their revenues more and more however they can. The long term consequences to the country is not their concern.

He is Mel Fucking Gibson, he can wears what he wants and still look badass

it should be obvious that this premise is flawed; the lower classes are the ones who have the most kids. It's rich, smart people who aren't breeding.

Ending social programs would absolutely kill the white majority in America. Small town USA depends on social programs to be livable at all; the (((National Review))) cited this as why they don't deserve to exist. Moving to the big city would be the only hope for the bulk of people, and big cities are always the most diverse.

So America would lose whatever culture and whiteness it had left.

>People not having kids is a reaction to being incredibly fucking dirt poor.
People are incredibly dirt poor because there is a constant influx of younger populations being brought in causing more competition and division of resources which would've otherwise been kept for just the new native generation.

>fucking NOBODY in this thread is arguing that.
You are.

Neoliberalism (i.e "Conservative economics" in 'murrica) is a bigger contributor to white demographic decline as it's the facilitator of open borders, growth schemes, globalism, pop-cultural propaganda (hollywood)

I'm not saying American Catholics are great, but holy shit are they a lot less degenerate than McProtestants. Voting patterns are irrelevant when there's only 2 kosher-corporatist parties to choose from

Pic related

This is sensationalism. The truth is not as dire as you make it seem. Old people don't need as much support as you think and they don't take up a nation's resources as much as a young welfare state.

The Rabbi Lord is pointing out using immigrants to make up for lost population is both bad and won't accomplish anything whatsoever.

But goyim why arent you having kids?

>get a kid
>woman find another dick
>woman take all your shit and the kid
>man commit sudoku

BUTTTT...! you can go on a rape spree and preg them all!

Ain't nobody got time to listen to Rabbi Lords.

>If there is no pension you must make children to look after you in you old age.

Alternatively, you can just save money on your own. That's how it worked before the universal pension system - more or less 100 years ago. Problem is, there's a catch. Saving is bad for the economy. If people save money for the future they spend less now and the economic growth suffers. It's better to pile debt onto the future generations and hope that growth will solve that problem. That was the idea behind pension systems. It would have worked - what ultimately fucked it up was the economic inequality.

We really are dying out at an alarming rate. Just check out the racial backgrounds of newborn babies in many western countries. Immigration only makes it happen faster.

>I'm not saying American Catholics are great, but holy shit are they a lot less degenerate than McProtestants.

I genuinely don't care about your cherry picked images, I am pointing out that in every way possible, American Catholics are comparable to Jews.

And no, being a staunch advocate for globalism and destroying western culture is not at all a requirement for being a fucking democrat, even Bill goddamn Clinton and Al Gore used to have views similar to Trump. The vast majority of American Catholics are just rootless cosmopolitans with no loyalty or patriotism, just like the vast majority of American Jews.

>because the modern generation does not want the responsibility of bringing up children

Well, maybe it has something to do with the consistent decline in wages/increase in living costs and marital law that enormously favors women over men. I sure do wonder who is responsible for this.

>People are incredibly dirt poor because there is a constant influx of younger populations being brought in causing more competition and division of resources which would've otherwise been kept for just the new native generation.

So why is this new impoverishment only hitting us now that the birth rate is falling and didn't hit us for the rest of the country's history, in which the birth rate was much higher?

>You are.

You're hallucinating.

Stop spilling bullshit you underaged.

Immigration is the only thing making you think you are dying out.

Having a large population is not a good thing. Whites have a perfectly stable and balanced population growth pattern. When you introduce immigration, all you achieve is destroying long term economic growth for the country and making the white populace weaker with anti-white propaganda and thereby destroying the country.

You are not dying out.

You Nords really are susceptible to leftist propaganda eh. And I say that as a Canadian.

>Alternatively, you can just save money on your own.
This, I hate how nobody ever mentions this.
If you lived and worked in America during the 90s there no excuse for you to be suffering today. You could put your money in the stock market in literally any tech stock and make money in the 90s even if you had no idea about investing. Anybody that was working in 90s SHOULD be well off today or at least have their house and a car or two payed off. I have no sympathy for those people.

Im not american so I don't know its situation. Cutting welfare instantly would of course be a completely catastrophe. It's basically impossible in a democracy anyways

Its not sensationalism when the pension age keeps going up and my own government gives a kick back to employers who hire old people. The Gov has no idea how to solve the problem without making a huge mess you seem to think wouldn't happen. Your solution is closer to logans run then reality IMO.

Its genuinely impossible, without resorting to science fiction nonsense like universal castration or whatever, for the white race to die out without there being a not so white race to crowd us out.

>So why is this new impoverishment only hitting us now that the birth rate is falling and didn't hit us for the rest of the country's history, in which the birth rate was much higher?
Because immigration has also increased.

>You're hallucinating.
Sounds like cognitive dissonance.

Oh boy, here we go.

Some fascinating facts about evangelicals and conservative protestants in the USA!

1. They love Jews more than any other non-Jewish western demographic
2. They Looooooooove Israel, it's like a second home
3. They have the highest rate of non-Jewish/Muslim circumcision in the USA, and the only demographic which hasn't gone below 60% in their rate, even now.
4. Globalism and patriotism are not opposing, in fact they might be the same thing, since the USA as a country and culture is a force for globalism and making race-mixing look cool. Loyalty to the west in fact kind of requires a dislike for the USA, as Americanization is actually a pretty big problem facing the west as much as mass-immigration and Islam

I agree with you except that old people need help with basic shit. Can you afford a carer with you plan?

>Cutting welfare instantly would of course be a completely catastrophe.

Yeah, that's all I'm saying.

I'm honestly somewhat ignorant about "welfare" because everyone I know on the dole gets it either from veterans stuff or the department of agriculture (food stamps), so I don't really know who these mysterious people are who get

No, the problem is that at this point in time, Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural

>tfw someone tries to convince you that pumping immigrants into a country will make the country better in the long run

Well, at least we'll give historians something to ponder. The race that came out of nowhere, took over just about the entire planet, ruled for half a millenia, then gave it all up and lost the will to even reproduce, completing their mass suicide by deliberately importing cultures that hated and wanted to destroy them. Hopefully China or India produces a successor civilisation advanced enough to stop us fading into myth.

>Sounds like cognitive dissonance.

Yeah, cognitive dissonance is when you keep hallucinating that someone who is staunchly 100% against immigration is in favor of immigration.

Why don't you start saying the things you're claiming then? I'm not going to try to read your mind. I'm not your boyfriend.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependency_ratio

An ageing population is not economically healthy. Old people draw money from the economy, they do not add to it

All the NSA has to do is match pairs of men and women together based on their ideologies, fetishes, and goals.

That's all they had to do.

But instead, we allow people to free roam and fuck whoever they want.

Of course American protties are Israel loving cucks with mutilated cocks and ridiculous in many ways, and catholic churches have nice architecture.

My issue with either is not at all whether they look like buffoons (no one fucking cares) but the way that Catholics are so cancerously hateful of America as a nation and strive so hard to turn it into a globalist wasteland.

Everything one can say bad about American jews one can say about American catholics.

Gather around kids, heres how to raise domestic birthrates:
-lower taxes
-axe the anti-family family court system

Its that simple!

Old people do not add to the ratio as much as a population full of young people all on welfare because they can't get good jobs or cultivate good skills due to over saturation of people.

The issue of dependence cannot be resolved as long as weakness exists. The true issue is how to reduce the amount of dependent people, and bringing in more immigrants during a deflationary period in the population is NOT the way to solve that issue. In fact, it will make it worse for you.

So maybe you should read your own wiki link breh.

Nope.

>hallucinating

Someone watched Molyneux the other day!

Yup.

>Why don't you start saying the things you're claiming then?

I have, beginning with my first post in this thread.

>I'm not going to try to read your mind.

Just read my text instead of wildly hallucinating that people are advocating for immigration when they are advocating for the opposite.

Wow you sure convinced me.

The Dilbert guy actually.

youtube.com/watch?v=NUQ0nNN95gM

youtube.com/watch?v=bzEm4xuBhqg

>get the productive base of all western countries to hate muslims and leftists
>9/11 2.0 electric boogaloo, set off global false flag attack killing hundreds of thousands of goyim
>blame it on """ISIS"""
>suddenly the entire west supports the idea of wiping islam off the face of the earth
>everyone abandons the religious tolerance meme just as quickly as they did on 9/11 (you fetuses won't remember, but it literally only took 48 hours of propaganda to convince everyone)
>allow controlled civil wars to erupt and reduce the population without seeming like you're the party responsible for the chaos (agenda 21 objective for this decade: met)
>all resistance to removing kebab is gone
>Israel bulldozes Gaza strip and the world cheers
>Israel's global goyim armies eagerly clear the way for Greater Israel, high fiving each other with cheeto dust covered hands in the drone pilot room every time they bomb another Syrian elementary school
>entire middle east becomes a vassal of Israel
>all middle east oil trade partnerships with Russia and China permanently ruined
>Petrodollar secured
>BRICS and gold-backed Yuan become memes once again

Yeah, you guys are right, the media has been giving Trump free 24/7 coverage from day one because they totes hate him and he isn't being installed to spearhead the scripted global war against Islam. Also, (((Twitter))) lets Donald keep his account with 12 million followers instead of silencing him with a single click because reasons.

I'm only reading the stuff you've said to me in reply. So far you haven't shown anything to convince me. Sorry!

Nope.
Only the real estate buble would pop in regular intervals making it affordable for people to buy homes and start families which would lead to population growth and price growth of real estate again making a healthy sustainable economic cycle.

But ''big investors'' want instantly more money and thus import shitskins to raise housing prices.

What can be done about west coast college demographics?

David Goldberg top kek

I don't see it, family court becomes pro man and lower taxes doesn't alleviate, educated women delaying or refusing to have children and having less of than they would if highschool only. Children just cost money, there's no benefit. You'll get a bump in the birth rate but not enough IMO.

Either 4D Ultra dimension viking chess playing or you are a JIDF shill.

Sometimes I think Jews are just this concerned Master Race that honestly wants to help the lesser races but they make mistakes too so then they make apologies like this because they tried adding immigrants and it didn't work to solve the problem, so now they have to try to manipulate the goyim to breed.

While not truly benevolent, I am not convinced Jews are the pure evil of the world, they are just trying to control it to do better, as long as its them controlling it.

Lol unrelated but I screencapped and cropped that reaction image from one of his videos yesterday, as a newfag it feelsgood that someone is using it

Man, if the jews were the good guys all along (in a parallel universe where they weren't fighting for open borders and criminalizing speaking out against muslims) that would be a surprise tweest.

>whites are the only majorly underrepresented demographic
race war when

Most of the people here and the author of OP's article miss the point about why the birthrate can't stop falling.
It's not the loss of faith, the loss of familly values or sexual liberation.
It is the lack of goal in life. The boomers and the generation just after had the communism to fight. the 70's generation was the first one come in charge without a mission but to rules the world. 90's generation is the first one to be born in hyperconsummerism.
If human beings don't expect to be better tomorrow than they are today, they can't see why they should sacrifice something now for latter rewards. This applies also to having children.
There is a growing part of the so called west that shares that pov. Worse, this is commonly accepted by the newer generations earlier in age. for the 90's kids, this was when they tried to hit the job market. This is a generally accepted idea among teenagers nowdays.
>Solution
Fabricate an artificial ennemy?
What's the point when you're already on top and nobody can challenge you?

It sounds like you want a haircut, so you get chemotherapy.

All the problems you listed can be solved without mass importation of foreigners, and promoting strong familial values.

Even just a replacement rate should be fine after a couple generations.

Think long term.

1998 called, they wanted white people to know that falling birthrates could spell the end of the West.

That's a stark truth, but I think it's the truth. Everything else could be addressed but this would still be there.

Many of these things are problems with long-term effects, but this one also has short-term implications. Boomers age, and their level of social benefits require more workers than their offspring can fill. Right now. Hence "migrants welcome." And nobody is going to campaign on kicking granny out of her deathbed.

I've heard it said repeatedly that the British NHS would collapse if not for foreign workers. Is this true? Because while they try to muddy the waters (> muh broken leg, muh stitches, muh pregnancy), the primary cost in health care is the elderly. I used to be in health care. Growing up mostly without insurance and also relatively healthy, I was shocked when I realized that the average age of the people I interacted with every day was 68 to 70.

I can only speak anecdotally about the American health care system but the lower levels of professionals (CNAs to below RNs) are almost entirely immigrants as well.

They do. They just have a different idea of what it means to "help."

Refugee Welcome faggots, except at the top, really do believe their nonsensical garbage and think its about "having a heart."

It is genuinely impossible for most lefties to understand that dropping bombs on people and then letting them into your country are two things that should not go together.

Not all jews are evil, but western jews push suicidal altruism thinking they're """"helping."""

We need more white babies hurry!

>All the problems you listed can be solved without mass importation of foreigners

Good because nobody is arguing importation of foreigners, mass or not.

>Because Europe never experienced a massive depopulation eve-
Oh wait

Women attending college and refusing to have children are cultural issues. Culture is downstream from economics. Improve the economic situations of men and getting women to comply is so much easier.

Part of the reason you see so many women going into higher education, as far as income is concerned, is because they think they need to do so in order to:
-raise themselves to a level that will have a good chance of securing a white-collar man
-make enough money themselves to support a household with two working adults

Again, this is a cultural issue here. There are plenty of blue collar men who are just as good as while collar men. But for some reason the women have been convinced these men are worth less than white collar men.

Lower taxes and eliminating the alimony family courts will make it so much easier for men to lead a household worthy life.

There's only one problem in the United States, and most of the world for that matter.

Private ownership of central banks, financial institutions and money manipulation becoming an ever growing part of GDP (40%), and banking cartels having zero oversight, while writing the laws in finance.

This is the root of most problems.

Do not be distracted.

I have no idea how many people survived the Black Plague but were crippled by it, but I would expect simply killing a huge chunk of the population to be easier to recover from than a bunch of old, sick people who cannot procreate safely or work.

Obviously we can still recover if we go full nationalist in time.

>Private ownership of central banks
I don't like it either, but there isn't a better alternative.
If anything, there needs to be a law that makes it so a Jew, muslim, Indian, or Chink can't be an executive at the Federal Reserve since their allegiance is not with the US.

I would say "people with skin the color of body waste" myself. Its nature's way of warning you.

this

>are so cancerously hateful of America as a nation and strive so hard to turn it into a globalist wasteland.

[citation needed on hating America]

I doubt there is much statistical deviation, unless you consider being disappointed and skeptical of the US to be "hating it", which only the most cucked of jingoists and turbo-patriots (neocons) care about. Every other ideology except for neoliberalism and kosher conservatism dislikes the US

> it into a globalist wasteland.

But, America is the globalism. It's a nu-world globalist construct built on artificial migration, ethnic intermixing and has a 95% globalist culture that is virulently spread abroad, and is also the epicenter of globalist capitalism which is extremely pushy about expanding overseas (globalism)

But you're right, if those dastardly Catholics and their westernized culture take charge, America will achieve the globalist end-game become full of multiracial pop-culture instead of culture, rootless civic patriotism will replace ethno-nationalism, it will become settled by immigrants, give birth to pushy globalist turbo-capitalism and trade deals, spy on the world and interfere with the affairs of dozens of sovereign nations a decade...

..oh wait, that already happened in the last 200 years without Catholics.

...Or maybe groups don't behave as a hivemind and they all have individual good guys, bad guys, and apathetics.

>Culture is downstream from economics.

This is a fair point (your whole post). I would still argue that without the economic need not as many women as you think would be interested. It seems unrelated but consider how women generally seem to flee rural areas at a greater rate than men. They are chasing a lifestyle that you don't really address. Which is why I think it wouldn't be enough. I'd like it though; pro man family court and lower taxes

white men, who voted to let women have the right to vote

Looks like we need some bugs to fight!

>But, America is the globalism.

Holy fucking shit. WHAT A SURPRISE that a fucking Catholic (or apologist for Catholics) thinks this sort of horseshit.

>implying that many Jews don't behave tribally, collectively
They do

Yes, of course they do, how would you be able to lazily generalize them otherwise?

do something yourself if you read the article you good see that all you need to do is to have kids, maybe 3-5 kids atleest , no one is stopping you.

This

few females now want to find a husband and have kids

>muh carreer - filling out spread sheet
>muh sexual freedom - catch STDs from niggers


The jew/left got what they wanted

The rich people don't "suck up wealth", they trade with other people voluntarily and provide goods and services that people agree is a good trade (if it wasn't, then it wouldn't occur)

The wealth inequality comes mostly from the government, first of all they tax the middle class to shit which makes getting ahead even harder, they then create welfare programs for the poor which KEEPS the poor in poverty.

You have these things call career ladders where you start at the bottom young and inexpereinced and then you climb the ladder to gain experience and skills which gives you value and that leads to better jobs and more money.

People on benefits will complain that why work for $10 an hour when you can sit on your arse and do nothign and get the same benefit. Without ever understanding that in a career the measily $10 per hour is what you earn at the start and the idea is obviously your prospects increase over time.

This is the welfare trap and it accounts most of the wealth inequality in places like america and the UK, it lazy gimmiedats which could have a good life and reasonable wages if they actually tried and weren't handed money.

This is all the fault of the state and not super wealthy people sucking up all the wealth, that's a position on the matter that betrays the chip on the shoulder you have for wealthy people.

Jews are usually bad because:

Extreme nepotism
Extreme cultural chauvinism (they believe they are the CHOSEN ONES OF GOD and act accordingly)
Extreme victim complexes (everyone is out to get them for no fault of their own)
Extreme belief in the ideals of rootless cosmopolitanism and being a citizen of the global community

Goys just can't fucking grasp how different jewish culture is from ours and the extreme us vs them mentality. You guys always think we're exaggerating the jewish threat -- and it does happen -- but as a whole, western jews are a blight. Some, I ASSUME, are good people.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tikkun_olam

fuck that jew. he just wants the west to take in muslims so they can create the "greater israel" this is some vullshit

why the fuck would we need more people when they will cut millions more jobs over the next 10 years thanks to machines? self order at mcdonalds and data entry jobs ect wiped out

>but lets make sure we have even more people on welfare when our goverments have budget problems (europe has been on economic life support for years due to budget problems)

Here is my prediction. Some sobering thoughts on the near future of humanity.

Japan within the next 30 years will see a mass population die off. Japan has exceeded its carrying capacity and like the mouse utopia experiment they will suffer massive population decline.

Western countries, by which I mean European ones and maybe a few other Asian ones will follow in Japan's footsteps not long after, maybe 50 years from now we will see a huge population decline.

It's possible these Western countries could import third world immigrants at a more furious pace to keep their numbers up, however their native populations and cultures would become extinct if the European government's were to do this.

Most parts of America will be insulated from this effect. Some cities won't be however.

See the mouse utopia experiment. Third wave feminism, MGTOW, grass eater man in Japan, etc. They are all products of behavorial sink. These ideologies are how we explain are emotional and behavorial changes, because unlike mice we are intelligent enough to reason but unfortunately not smart enough to grasp what is actually happening to us and our society.

We are running out of space. The earth has far exceeded its comfort capacity and has even exceeded its carrying capacity by a billion+ people.

Government's will not have enough time to learn from Japan before this happens.

The next few decades could very well see demographic changes more extreme than ever before in human history.

>he just wants the west to take in muslims

he said that taking in immigrants is not desirable and won't even fucking help

Resource backed currency based on energy production.

Admittedly were not at the technological level to implement a successful model though.

Need more efficiency, sustainable sources, and massive improvements in energy storage.

At the least, the central bank should be accountable to the best interests of the American people in terms of long term stability and sovereignty, instead of the best interests of shareholders.

That combined with their natural tendency toward mental illness and perversion.

Tomato tomahto.

kek, you are, burger

One of the biggest aspects of globalism is mass-corporations gaining international dominance and borderless controls, as well as interfering with the business of foreigners by spying on them or manipulating politics and not obeying sovereignty. Interventionism and imperialism is globalist and isolationism/neutrality is anti-globalist.

Which, no surprise, the US is the main centerpiece of...

Another aspect of globalism is pop-culture spread and Americanization which erode native ethnic culture (the antithesis of globalism). Obviously the US/Canada is the epicenter of Americanization

Mass-immigration and the normalization of immigration is another big component and the US was created by waves of immigration and promotes the idea. Colonies are globalist/internationalist things, ethnic homelands are the antithesis. Colonies are inherently "rootless" constructs

And no, I'm not catholic, I'm secular and American "christianity" is too trashy and degraded for me. One of the pros of colonial Catholocism at least is it has more ties with the west, unlike protestants denominations which have been cut off from European influence for a long time and gone feral

If you keep IMPORTING INBRED THIRD WORLD LOW IQ VOTERS WITH BARBARIC IDEOLOGIES AND FERAL NEGROES WHO VOTE TO GIBS DEM ALL.

Don't underestimate simple economics. Birth rates are lower because competition is increasingly fierce, and opportunities are dwindling. Kids are increasingly expensive, and they're less likely to pay off.

As we export manufacturing, the only good jobs left are knowledge and information jobs, which means you have to go to college to make good money. College is expensive, because everybody wants to send their kids, and because the government hands out loans with no collateral.

There's plenty of space to live, but nobody's going to start a factory in the middle of Nebraska or Michigan, when they could do so in China for less cost with cheaper workers.

It's not about space, it's about economic opportunities.

Says a guy from the country trying to destroy Europe.

>Kids are increasingly expensive
>the most kids are produced in apefrica

The strongest positive correlation between low fertility is the proportion of women in the work force.

They omitted the word "gloats."

>unlike protestants denominations which have been cut off from European influence for a long time and gone feral

At least they're drastically more likely to be pro America, pro western civilization, anti immigrant, anti degeneracy, etc. etc., in contrast to the way American Catholics are for the most part indistinguishable from Jews. Nationalism would be dead without American protestants.

>internet addict
how many hours online do you spend per day? i'm pretty much all day except when i go out to buy some takeout

21st century western life of not being bound to any kind of real community (religious, family, educational, local) and only feeling at home on the internet is very disillusioning

Doubling the supply of labor and constricting the amount of time women have for families was one of history's worst mistakes.

>kids are expensive
>expects to hire a nanny for his kid because his Strong Womyn wife needs a Career

>All the NSA has to do is match pairs of men and women together based on their ideologies, fetishes, and goals.
That's... actually genius.

Nice lateral thinking user.

That sounds more like Stockholm syndrome than anything else. Maybe it's true for a handful of powerful jews, but you have to wonder what the motivation is. Empathy isn't my first guess.

Yeah what does that have to do anything of the actions of the Jews
>lobbying against right wing parties who would only change immigration laws about without going literally Hitler
>denouncing nationalism and lobbying for multi-culturalism
>using accusations of antisemitism, the Nazi-club and AUSCHWITZ meme as tools to instill white guilt and silence opposition
>install anti-white politicians, in our case anti-German politicians, wherever they can
>looby for the abolishment of the German identity and opposing the ethnostate with every cell in their body
>lobby for Islam and protecting them against any critizism, instead gang up on ISLAMOPHOBIA

I could go on, but you get the point: none of this has anything to do with how many children I have. And it wouldn't be enough, because the society they help create is fanatically anti-German, anti-native, anti-national. They are subversive, hatefilled and voracious. At least the current leaders of the councils of European and German Jews.

The worst example is the former leader of the Jewish council who went directly into German secret service without having the necessary degree - through his kike shill connections - into the basically communist government of Thuringia and is backing the Amadeu Antonio Stiftung of former Stasi informant and Jewish communist anetta kahane.

I'm sure 99% of what the NSA does is keep track of everyone's porn habits... which is actually rather useful (its hard to keep respect for Omar Mateen, even if you are a Sharia Law supporter, after you find out he's Kinky Lick)

It's always the retard with the worst rebuttals, cheap ad hominems and non arguments.

So why are you doing the wrong thing by importing savages who do have babies?

Often, its a smug sense of moral superiority, that the lesser races would be so much happier and more peaceful if they viewed themselves like the Chosen viewed them (as an undifferentiated brown morass without any sort of pride, culture or history).

My parents had 6 kids. when will everyone else start picking up the slack so that we can end this decling birthrate meme?

>Doubling the supply of labor and constricting the amount of time women have for families was one of history's worst mistakes.

I was watching a (pro-womyn) feminist documentary on our communist public TV station:

tvo.org/video/documentaries/the-ascent-of-woman-a-10000-year-story/the-ascent-of-woman-a-10000-year-story-ep-1

And in one of the episodes (not the one above) they gave the example of Bolshevik feminists.
Some of the womyn feminists explicitly campaigned to destroy the family unit, put women into the labour force and make child rearing the responsibility of the state.

>pro western civilization
>christian
false, western civilization and freedom of religion was built on european paganism

>savages who do have babies?
Who become voters.
Who proceed to vote to gradually dismantle the economy and human progress.

>US is 60% white
>NASA has no funding
>proportion of state funded nigglets to whites is the highest ever

>No, he isn't. It could be the end of their easy living on debt slavery though.
^^THIS^^

...is so spot on that I'm afraid I'm compelled to obnoxiously spam-quote it just so it doesn't get lost in the noise of the thread.
and so:
No, he isn't. It could be the end of their easy living on debt slavery though. No, he isn't. It could be the end of their easy living on debt slavery though. No, he isn't. It could be the end of their easy living on debt slavery though. No, he isn't. It could be the end of their easy living on debt slavery though. No, he isn't. It could be the end of their easy living on debt slavery though. No, he isn't. It could be the end of their easy living on debt slavery though. No, he isn't. It could be the end of their easy living on debt slavery though. No, he isn't. It could be the end of their easy living on debt slavery though. No, he isn't. It could be the end of their easy living on debt slavery though. No, he isn't. It could be the end of their easy living on debt slavery though. No, he isn't. It could be the end of their easy living on debt slavery though. No, he isn't. It could be the end of their easy living on debt slavery though.

No, he isn't. It could be the end of their easy living on debt slavery though.

IT WILL BE THE END OF THEIR PARASITICAL SUCKLING ON EUROPEAN PEOPLES.

>Lack of resources and poverty slows birth rate
>Except for the entire continent of Africa where birth rates are sky high

How fucking stupid are you?

Is Jonathan Sacks Cred Forums's official rabbi?

>Some of the womyn feminists explicitly campaigned to destroy the family unit

youtube.com/watch?v=n9M0xcs2Vw4

That's the article's point, that importing new people is not going to do any good and will not work.

He sucked me off personally when I had my bris.

WHAT ABOUT YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS ALLOW SCIENTISTS TO EXPERIMENT ON ZYGOTES SO WE CAN FINALLY BE ABLE TO GET CHILDREN WITHOUT NEEDING FEMALES
YOU RETARDED FUCKS ALLOW THEM TO GET ABORTIONS BUT SCIENTISTS EXPERIMENTS IS OVER THE LINE
GET FUCKED
AND OF COURSE YOUR SOLUTION IS IMPORTING A BILLION SHITSKINS THAT WILL DESTROY THE WEST'S CULTURE
FUCK YOU AND FUCK YOUR SHIT MERCHANTS

talking about the modern day, not the fucking 8th century conflict with the Anglo Saxons

I would say again that economics causes this. The women educate themselves in order to be on the receiving end of the wealth redistribution. This requires city life.

Japan proves you wrong, it has problems, but no one thinks their society is going to collapse within a few decades.

to live is to strugle!
some ideas for you
1. Form a german/teuton brpederbond
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrikaner_Broederbond
2. be confident
3. align your inrests with other gruops intrest like jews, poles, russians, ext
4. start cultural celebrations
5. Tell people that you want a big family and not be lonely, aswell as crticice consumerism like lord sacks did in his article.
what do you think?

British Jew: rabbisacks.org/topics/moral-relativism/

rabbisacks.org/topics/multiculturalism-2/

American Jew: "oy vey kill all the goyim babies! #neveragain take in a gorillion niggers, goy hehehe"

He's only right because the West is now bringing in people from other regions to populate their countries, essentially meaning the West will eventually just become those other regions.

If it was just declining birthrates in the West it just means that the population will fall until it reaches whatever state the declines even out at. Once you add in that the West is not a closed system, and indeed is actually being actively turned into some sort of integrated system with the Middle East and Africa, it simply makes Europe now part of the Middle East and Africa.

>feminist pipe dreams
>feminism destroys fertility rates
If only Muslims breed, the institution of marriage will be moulded by Shariah in the long term.

>Is he right?

Without a doubt.

make sure you all do your part to end this miserable civilization by alienating yourselves from society and becoming permavirgins who never reproduce

Don't role-play, you two.

>At least they're drastically more likely to be pro America, pro western civilization, anti immigrant, anti degeneracy, etc. etc
No, no they are not, they are quite the opposite. Conservative protestants are one of the most degenerate blocs in the USA, with enormous obesity, circumcision, pro-Israel rates. They have the highest opinion of Jews among non-Jews.

see this again:
>anti-immigrant
America is built on a "nation of immigrant" mythos and actively promotes it. It's one of the core values, and pro-immigration people abroad actually use the US and Canada as role models. Many spics are catholic and thus likely to be more pro immigration

>Nationalism would be dead without American protestants.

Neoconservatism*
Anways the US is largely harmful to Nationalism because it has a globalist pop-culture that promotes a negative view on traditional/folk culture and promotes "cool postmodernism"

Spooky.

>be British Jew
>vote for Brexit
>be American Jew
>vote for Hillary
Why are our Jews so much better?

Something like this would be IMMEDIATELY outlawed in Germany as racist and against the constitution. I'm almost 100% certain. And afaik ANY pro white union would be outlawed for the same reasons as where the wiking jugend and white power organizations. So it would indeed have to be a secret society - of highly influential, very rich people.

I don't think most of the neets on here would qualify for "industrialist billionaire" kek. So that leaves the moderatly right wing AfD, living with kikery and remaining a multi cultural purgatory.

But I think it's another indicator that the construction of the German state itself is anti-German by design.

>America is built on a "nation of immigrant" mythos and actively promotes it. It's one of the core values, and pro-immigration people abroad actually use the US and Canada as role models. Many spics are catholic and thus likely to be more pro immigration

The flood of non-European (non-"""White""") migrants started in the 60/70s afaik. Just like it did in France and UK. You can be pro-white migrant, pro-skilled migrant, pro-migrant but anti-immigration, etc. It's not a dichotomy.

Based kikes.

this

>Why are our Jews so much better?
They share their streets with pakis and witness the endgame of globalism.

destroying the family was the (((marxist))) goal at least since the 19th century

Sikhs are bro-tier

Actually, he is against west falling.

You'd expect that since he was the Chief Rabbi in this country he'd be a typical merchant but based Rabbi Sacks delivered.

>it's not just a meme
>Sihks really are bro tier

The technology is there, but that's obviously not what (they) want. What they want is a third world war, ending in establishment of a one world (Zionist) government, so that's what we're getting.

Nobody believes they're the villain. Nobody thinks themselves as evil. They probably do think they're helping, that the medicine will be bitter but they'll be making a better world.

They just can't agree on how the fuck to do it, and their attempts at control end up doing more harm than good.

They don't realize that there is no such thing as utopia.

Their intentions might be good, even noble, but the damage they have done and will continue to do is catastrophic.

>destroying the family was the (((marxist))) goal at least since the 19th century
You're right. I do recall it being one of the pillars listed in the Communist Manifesto. When I read it, it struck me as inhuman/unnatural. We haven't evolved along the same lines as ants.

Based on the statistics it looks like everyone except Christians, Jews, Whites and Sikhs should leave Britain

What kind of meme chart is that?
>white
>no religion
two distinct categories, as with each religion and race

>Jews try as hard as they can to destroy the West
>"Uhh guys you know you guys are fucked"

What did Jews mean by this?

>They probably do think they're helping
Gibe monay to us. We will save you. Honestly. 100% not a scam.

It was also the fourth primary thesis by Feuerbach. And I know it goes back to Plato who wanted to seperate children from their parents and only allow the state as the only bonade allowed. Ironically it was Karl Popper, Soros professor, who critized Plato for being too totalitarian and the father to both communism and fascism with his ideas. Now Soros supports the new totalitarianism, a (((liberal))) totalitarianism.

It should've brought the religions of the ethnicities that voted into the mix I agree. It's good enough though

broederbond is a underground organisatio originally

SHUT
IT
DOWN

marketwatch.com/story/george-soros-the-eu-ought-to-borrow-money-to-pay-for-surge-funding-for-refugees-2016-02-18

>Profit on the way up and on the way down

One way to profit from mass migration is by renting to negroid apes/Mudslimes. It's a transfer of wealth from the productive class working class to the landlords via the welfare system.

duuuuuh

now watch the globalists tear him apart for stating the obvious

>No, no they are not, they are quite the opposite.

I'm only talking about facts. I genuinely don't care about your feelings. You keep posting pics of derpy looking protties, nobody fucking cares.

Without protties, Trump would have 0 chance. Without catholics, HRC would have 0 chance.

>with enormous obesity, circumcision, pro-Israel rates

You keep deflecting to shame tactics on someone who isn't even a fucking Christian, and I'm pointing out the only reason nationalism and thus civilization has a single prayer at all in America is evangelicals. Meanwhile, Catholics en masse support open borders and globalism.

>America is built on a "nation of immigrant" mythos and actively promotes it. It's one of the core values,

Wrong. America is clearly built on the premise that only white men who own land deserve full rights.

If you want to take it to the realm of the absurd, yes, America, like all countries that exist, consists of people who immigrated here. Of course, if you want to be equally ridiculous, one can also point out that America is one of the oldest nation surviving states in the west.

>Neoconservatism*

Nah, nationalism. You seem to have been living in a cave for the last three years, you may want to look into the current election cycle, noob.

>Anways the US is largely harmful to Nationalism because it has a globalist pop-culture that promotes a negative view on traditional/folk culture and promotes "cool postmodernism"

You seem to have a very PC, leftist view of America, and that makes sense, given your support for Catholicism, but if you don't see the significance of the nationalist takeover in America, that would be impossible without evangelicals and effortless without catholics, you are deluding yourself.

a vid on the broedbond and its development, keep in mind that im just a civilian with no inside knowledge
ps
use front organisations and diffrent organisations for diffrent purposes
youtube.com/watch?v=9XG3FcP_NG0

it is not pro white it is pro or where pro afrikaner, afrikaans and afrikaner etnhno nationalism

>society will collapse of you don't do what (((we))) want

Every time.

Fucking this. You faggots don't realise that the only reason so many normie jews support these insane policies is because they genuinely and unironically think that they are doing the right thing.

Still undecided on the elite kikes tho.

free market will fix it
fuck off tyrant

hows the situation in russia?

>America is built on a "nation of immigrant" mythos and actively promotes it. It's one of the core values

No. It's one of the superficial values that's used as leverage against unsuspecting whites who don't know about jewish involvement in the radical changing of our immigration policies in the 20th century.

This. A lot of Jewish lefty guys look like massive numales too so they're either fantastic at acting or they're genuinely bluepilled

this

jews are utterly subversive - they'll import islamics who hate them more than nazis just to destroy white nation states

we cannot let this evil win, to give in to it is to be part of it.

Exactly how many people in human history are prone to doing what they think is the wrong decision?

In Germany it would obviously have to be pro native German, which may or not be classified as racist pro-white organization. Under the current climate it probably would.

Demographic situation?
In the 90s fertility rate was catastrophically low reaching bottom at 1.16 in 1999. It has benn increasing since then, reaching 1.78 last year. The 'Evil Nineties' as they are lnown here were a time of complete economic and cultural collapse, comlete chaos and lawlessness and rampant criminality and poverty etc, so it is not strange that people didnt want have children then.

how is the demographic situation now in russia?
How are family values in russia?
Do russians want children? Your own situation?

it is a start. But what do you think of the broederbond vid?

>If you want to take it to the realm of the absurd, yes, America, like all countries that exist, consists of people who immigrated here.

It's still a rootless ideology. America is a rootless artificial construct. Being rooted requires ethnic indigenousness and ethnic identity/purity to a degree

>Without protties, Trump would have 0 chance.

Both presidents want America to stick its nose in western affairs and both candidates are globalsits. Trump has tried pushing his smutty international business in other countries many times, like trying to force a golf course in scotland nobody wanted.

American presidents are kosher conservative interventionists and not good for the west. The USA's foreign intervention has increased the amount of migrant flow, like from Syria, Libya and Iraq which were all ruined by Bush and his evangelical fans.

> Meanwhile, Catholics en masse support open borders and globalism.
*Americans* and other colonials support open borders, at least legal immigration. Support for legal immigration is vastly higher among christian Americans than say, a true western country like Estonia.
>and I'm pointing out the only reason nationalism and thus civilization has a single prayer at all in America is evangelicals

If the west is saved, it will have to be saved by European traditionalists, ethnic nationalists and rightists. Not Kosher-conservative neoliberials in Nebraska nowhere near real western culture. Pic related, right = western civilization and nationalism, left = evangelical potty protty's in the US

Americanization is a globalist threat to Europe as much as islam and mass migration. Evangelical neoliberals would love for more McDonalds to open up in the Netherlands and replace western cuisine

I'm a pro-western rightist, I just prefer the west over the USA

>American presidents are kosher conservative interventionists and not good for the west. The USA's foreign intervention has increased the amount of migrant flow, like from Syria, Libya and Iraq which were all ruined by Bush and his evangelical fans.
Thank you for a real red pill for a change.

Haven't watched it completely yet, will do later on. Already late in the day, Anders.

You have to accept the fact that most of the population is insane. They would rather import people from third world countries who have an excess population than produce children on their own.

Just like a smoker they find ways to rationalise their destructive decisions.

>steal everything that makes life worth struggling for from an entire generation
>they become disillusioned and see no point in having children and bury themselves in hedonistic nihilism
>O...OY VEY WHY WONT YOU BE HARD WORKERS (FOR CHUMP CHANGE OF COURSE) AND PUMP OUT SOME GOYIM CHILDREN (WHICH WILL OBLIGATE YOU TO GIVE US ALL YOUR SHEKELS BACK TO US)

That's what you get you fucking kike.

>You have to accept the fact that most of the population is insane.
>most
I don't think so. Only the radical minority. 80% oppose merkel's refugee policy, yet Merkel rules consequentially against them and their interest. A lot of normies still don't get it though.

>failing birthrates headline
>always some fat kike's face plastered on the front

fuck right off with this shit

If you think jews that are some all-evil comic-book villain then you need to start getting out more.

What he says is right: the elite aren't inherently evil and don't want to destroy the human race or world for that matter. That being said, their interests do conflict with ours - and as far as desires go, they are our enemies.

Most people nearing their thirties don't want children when i explain to them that they should have children to replace their own generation they just say the world is over crowded anyway. it is like a smoker making up excuses to keep on smoking when they know what they are doing is bad for them.

Then there are women who have three children but all to separate fathers which knocks down the fertility rate again.

So much government policy you will have to unravel to reverse the effects of the wests genocidal family policies.

Yeah. We have inherited fifty, sixty, maybe even 70 years of brainwashing and leftist polcies on a state level and global scale. The biggest problem is that the entire concept of living, this way of life is a failure and leads to collective suicide, but people will not want to reverse it, if it just means inconvenience. So you have a few idealists who may make the decision for children, but until you change the state policy: it just won't be enough.

We could only go above replacement level in the west by outlawing abortions, ideally the pil and other methods of contraception, changing marriage laws, overthinking women's role in the work force.

But I don't think in the west any of that will happen. People are too dependent on their freedoms and convenience.

All you would honestly need is state funded propaganda. make it fashionable to get married and have Children make it unfashionable to be thirty and alone with no Children.

Just brainwash the population like they have been brainwashed now.

Also a good first step would be to say that adults who did not have children must provide for their own retirement they are no longer entitled to a state funded pension.