What is wrong with Colombians?

You're a cuck. Based Colombians doing what's right.

this desu

Hey they want to use the same tactic as drug cartels.
Only they failed.

Sorry I don't speak illegal

>Kill/Kidnap a shit ton of innocents
>Create a huge drug cartel
>Become rich from it
>Peace treaty offering a shit ton of money, terrain and political influence and no fucking jail time
>Potential shared Nobel peace prize

No thanks.

Who are all the cucks voting yes? Women?

There is absolutely nothing, whatsoever, to be gained from negotiating with terrorists.

All a "peace" vote would have achieved is giving legitimacy to FARC and confirming that their way of doing things gets results. Kill them, in front of their familes, then kill the families.

the tides are finally turning
meme magic is real
praise kek

we don't want commies in the congress

I imagine those who have never had FARC involved in their lives.

>then kill the families

This is important. Otherwise their children will grow up wanting revenge.

To battle

Yes please! This continent needs some action.

Colombians weren't too eager to let these terrorist go out so easily.

Imagine Obama pardoning a local Al-Qaida brach which has been doing kidnapping, attacks and murders over 50 years with minimal consequences and the possibility for Osaba Bin Laden or Omar to run for public office.

Well, something like that. Only that when Uribe left office the FARC's back was pretty much broken.

Colombians can be a lot of things but they aren't stupid people.

colombians always vote right/conservative. even when they vote for liberal parties. colombia is the most stable country in L.A., both economically and politically, despite the 60 years of conflict.

it's a weird country

>I have an idea since we are too retarded to fight against terrorists we should negotiate a peace deal that is far more beneficial to them than it is to us

Colombia literally the most cucked nation in South America

This guy gets it. Seria muy cool que escribieras una descripcion un poco mas detallada de las cagadas que han hecho estos ñangaras.

Half are niggers.

Chile, Uruguay and Argentina might have something to say about that.

Colombians are excellent people, and there are far worse countries in the world, but I wouldn't call it stable.

aqui tienes un detalle

>collar bomba

This is why.....

"It is absurd to reward those criminals, drug-traffickers and killers who have made the country a disaster for the past 50 years," said Jose Gomez, a retiree of 70, who voted 'No.'

"If you reward crime, what moral authority do you have to tell a thief not to steal your mobile phone?"

that shit was brutal, i recall when it happened...

Well, where I study theres was a shit on of pro-peace propaganda going around. Basically most of the students just ingested that shit without them making research themselves. Most private education institutions where pushing that shit way too hard. So my guess is that most of the voters are students. You can see this in the fact that the cities with the best universities (which are very liberal) have a preference over the yes vote.

no forgiveness without justice

We're mentally retarded.

I want out of Uribe's wild ride

Isn't that turnout really low?

it is though. colombia never had hyperinflation unlike the rest of latinamerica, they still have the same peso while other countries have changes currency multiple times to correct inflation. colombia never suffered of a dictatorship. even when the military took control, they made great advances in infrastructure and when people rejected them they voluntarily stepped down. colombia didn't stop growing economically since the 1930 and was the only country in latinamerica who didn't skip a single payment during the external debt crisis in the 80 when all latinamerican countries stopped paying. is the most pro-Yankee country of the region.

She's pretty. Did she live?

FARCfags think they can get away with years of murders, drug trafficking, kidnapping, extortions and rapes
they all should get murdered
it's like one day the mexican government grant amnesty to every drug lord and cartels
>it's like nothing happened guys XD

post about the peace treaty agreements you niggers
what's written on it?

Terrorist and drug cartels deserve death, not political reward. They celebrate a culture of death, oblige them.

Nope, she died along the two bomb techs trying to defuse it.

If you think ISIS is brutal, Mexicans and Colombians put them to shame.

>FARC (terrorist group) get some lands and turn in their weapons
>they have to give up info on other drug cartels
>some get prosecuted and have to pay a fee
>most of the lands are given back to their original owners, farmers and whatnot
>the narcs get a seat in politics and are allowed to have a political party

Because south america is a fucking shithole and is going to be ruled by the 21st century socialists. I dont know what to believe anymore. Im getting the fuck outta here as soon as I can.

>conceding any immunities and ceding before a group of commie jungle fighters that killed, raped and destroyed the country for decades

yep, i for one applaud the Colombian people

just fucking kill them all, napalm the whole jungle already ffs

Colombians are retarded.
It's not a matter of being too easy on them, it's a matter of stopping the guerrilla warfare. The things that you don't enjoy from FARC that would've been terminated now are bound to continue. So it's like voting for more killings and kidnappings because my emotions.

If the option to exterminate Farc with extreme prejudice was possible, then there wouldn't be a need to make the peace deal in the first place.

There is no such thing as getting your cake and eating it too in war. Colombians confirmed as the most retarded Latin Americans yet again.

There's no justice in that "peace". Letting the terrorists walk with a slap on the wrist (more like a gentle caress) is spitting on the face of 50 years of violence, and legitimizing their "cause" in Congress is just abhorrent.

Colombian here, too true.

If only there was a way to deceiving farc leaders, killing them all, then letting the pawn soldiers leave in peace, that would be excellent.

the "peace agreement" literally means that the colobian state are going to give "ex-FARC" guerillas welfare "until they find a job".

What if they just decide to not find any job? Just wasting a huge pile of tax money on criminals who deserve to be put in trial.

Also what if they dont even decide to leave their criminal activities like coke selling?

This "peace agreement" is a huge cuckery for the colombian state and people, fuck that. Spend that money on military and bomb these degenerates.

Feels pretty good to live in peru tbfh

>Antofalombians
I keked.
I hope you are killing them slowly, weon-kun.

cost-wise, war was many times more expensive than being a cuck

The problem is senpai, that most of the guerrila soldiers are kidnapped children from the jungle that are raised in a brainwashed way and are forced to fight for ideals or whatever the fuck those commies tell em to fight for. And by the way were speaking of young people, with no education and sense of what is right and wrong. Its sad actually.

>What is wrong with Colombians?
Probably nothing, this deal is like letting huge amounts of criminals go free.

show this video to every faggot who vote YES
minute 24:00
youtube.com/watch?v=PeWTxn83BZI

>Remain will win
>Yes will win
>Hillary will win
Well well...

>colombia is the most stable country in L.A
>despite having a literal terrorist group living in the jungle, kidnapping, recuiting, planting mines all over the jungle and dumping coke and weapons all over the rest of the world and Latin America
Great political analysis you have there.

>my aunt will not die
well well well

literally

>CONGOlombia
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sad!

> be wanting to move to Colombia next year
> see this

I guess im Uruguay bound lads

lol democracy

They found their balls.

Why haven't you?

Sorry for your loss user.

you can't have peace without justice m8.

This.

Across the globe, the left has wildly overestimated its negotiating position. It has completely overplayed its ability to order people around. People pretend to listen (mostly because the left controls pretty much all media outlets) but they don't actually care.
There are millions of people in every country who may not be explicitly hardcore anti-left these days, but they still hold these beliefs and will still vote that way. Ask them who they will vote for in a poll and they'll tell you want they think you want to hear (I'm voting to remain! I'm voting for Hillary!) because they don't want to stand there and be lectured for 45 minutes about the "evil" right.
Come voting day, they will have their revenge.

God bless Colombia.

that's literally black lives matter argument

your a fucking google

Women.

archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/subject/knowledge bomb/username/anonymous5/#

I feel you Uruguay bro. I wanted to move to Colombia a while ago but now my choices are down to Uruguay or Ecuador. How much is a small apartment down there?

then i must kill you, rape your corpse and extort your fuckin brazilian mother

I think he's talking about the absurd amnesty deals for FARC.

So they go back to murdering capitalists and kidnapping neo-liberal politicians? I'm okay with this.

A Colombian here in Santiago told me the same.

>your a fucking google
just check my flag.

and it has nothing to do with blm. i don't see any kind of unfair treatment going towards nigger.

why ecuador? uruguay is much better

Ecuador is cheaper and closer to NA. Isn't Uruguay basically tied with Chile for the richest country in SA?

I wouldn't mind living down there, seems like a solid place.

Kinda like what we did with Spaniards. Now we're shit.

uruguay is also cheap.
you should move there. a few more ours of flight arent that bad.

Peru and Ecuador are similar. Both are Andean nations but Peru is the no-Socialist country

>Have an active terrorist group in your borders
>Still safer than Brazil

>brazil

Personal grudges and paisas.

The murder rate in Colombia is over 4 times higher than in Brazil.

Go look that up again. It's about 10% higher, and you're more likely to be a victim of untargeted violence in Brazil.

basically "don't worry about all the massacres we'll help all women, end hunger and help more womyn oh and you get to keep the billions of cocaine bucks. pls sign, I have to empty my diaper"

> Uruguay is also cheap

Need to do more research on the country. I play poker ( NLHE/PLO ) for a living. Would I be able to live comfortably there on $1500-2000USD/month.

Isn't Peru more dangerous than Ecuador though, Ecuador has a fuck load of retirees and expats.

Have some rare Gillies

Commies BTFO

Kill them all!

uncuked

It wasnt proved that was FARC, but still, they did horrible things

santinflas BTFO
maduro BTFO
correa BTFO
los castro BTFO
communist scum BTFO
terrorists BTFO
leftie cunts BTFO
peace nobel prize BTFO

Yeah, you're right! All governments should incorporate drug-pushing, kidnapping, murdering, terrorist groups into their governments!

Where are the ISIS seats in the US House and Senate????

It depends on neighborhood and if you have money you live like king here
We have more tech cuz our market oriented economy than socialist Ecuador.

you should be fine with $2000USD/month here in Buenos Aires. i remember that uruguay were a little more expensive, but i haven't been there in the last 2 years. so maybe it could become more expensive. anyways i don't think that there's such a diference, so again, you should be fine.

Yes but how much would I need to live upper middle class per month?

If I were to head down to Argentina i'd want to be somewhere south in Patagonia. I hate big cities

not the place to move sadly, unless you're rich
REALLY expensive here, almost London-tier expensive

e.g. the 2 bedroom apartment I'm living in right now (in the Punta Carretas neighborhood) costs around 150k USD aprox
and if you're trying to get anything big near first-world comfiness expect to unload 200k

rent prices are even more retarded here, unless you're trying to buy, don't even bother

OR unless you're talking about the beachside (which is an empty desert 9 months a year)

e.g. (jstu picked a random house on sale) this house near the beach costs 300k for example, rally comfy i block away from the beach

>gallito.com.uy/casa-punta-colorada-los-teros-inmuebles-10091085

use that site and lurk around if you know spanish, biggest online real state catalog in the country

I actually agree with this guy, Buenos Aires is cheaper due to be 15 times bigger than our whole country and having more offer

this place is really expensive.

Santos is a meme desu

Even if we had voted yes the conflict would still go on.

FARC isnt the only terrorist group in the country, it's the biggest one at the moment.

The treaty was also horseshit, I'm all in for more negotiations if they are actually reasonable.

patagonia is way more expensive, and really more beautiful.

montevideo is nice, and you don't feel like in a big city there.

you should also check Punta del este.

Do Uruguayans feel weird about immigrants though? It's a really small country.

>Across the globe, the left has wildly overestimated its negotiating position.
ISN'T IT FUNNY?

Is it really a democracy if 50.3% of the country can decide the fate for the other 49.7% that disagreed with them?

>leaf thinking he knows shit about street level violence in latin countries
Just stop.

Think about all the No voters who regret their vote already.

With 2000 US dollars per month you are upper middle class, shit most upper than the majority. I earn a total of 1000 US dollars per month and I'm middle class.

yes because its majority

That is depressing but buying even a small apartment in my city would run me about 300k USD.

Yeah absolutely, I think the best way to get a good feel for each country is to actually go there and live like a local for half a year or so. Definitely going to do that before I decide.

How do Argentines feel about Polish people?

Well, I have an uncle that plays poker. He lives in a expensive house in fucking Punta del Este. He lives really comfy, the rent I think is like $1000/month 9 month of the year.
Also, no taxes for poker ATM, more people is starting to get fucking rich with it and it's becoming more popular, and as the gov is socialist until 2019, they will try to get adventage of it.

With 2000 US dollars you are upper middle class, shit more upper than the majority. I earn 1000 US dollars and I'm middle class. I'm sure a rich canadian like you earn more.

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we want those fuckers dead

we like every european people. nobody willd dislike you for being a 1st world foreigner

in fact out constitution says that we must welcome them

>letting FARC get off with no consequences
The people want them dead, as they should

> $1000/month
> 9 months out of the year
> live poker is legal
> live poker is growing in popularity

Fuck me I really hope you're not overselling it mate. I'm ready and willing to learn Spanish btw, not going to be an immigrant fag that moves to another country and expects everyone to speak my languages.

Thank you brother, how much is rent in a safe nice neighbourhood? Is live poker legal/popular there?

Does Columbia intend to kill all of them now that the vote failed? Or will it be an ignore the ongoing rebel group scenario?

Agreement must be renegotiated then.

Live Poker is more than legal, the Conrad is the casino where the big tournaments are usually played. You should look for it.
I mean, if you are going to play poker, and you have a positive W/L ratio, you are getting very comfy here. Just don't put to much money in a bank becouse the will ask you where it comes from, and could lead into a problem (but this happens to people that randomly win 400k in a tournament).

conrad.com.uy/poker/

Would I be okay depositing 100-150k USD into a bank? Why would they give me a problem? I obviously can't prove that every dollar comes from poker so that worries me.

Much love for the info hermano.

I have a better agreement

you turn in, you dont die to napalm/WP
>but muh human rights violations
fuck you

To the other congolombian, yeah never a dictatorship, perhaps THATS WHAT YOU NEEDED 30 years ago though, now I think you are in a good position

This was a vote for the term of the agreements and not a Peace vs. War deal.
Both sides already decided that this conflict won't be resolved with weapons.
People believes that the treaty gives way too much benefits to criminals while giving not enough compensation to the victims, these agreements will be reevaluated until they hit a sweet spot everyone (or the majority at least) could agree upon.

You've got it wrong mate, kill their families in front of them and then kill them

So why is the media mourning this? It will just return to the negotiation table, another agreement will come out, and people will vote on it again.

offer some limited amnesty to grunts, we did offer amnesty to our terrorists back then, but reparations?, fuck them

I'm embarrassed to be honest. The only good thing that comes with this result is that FARC is proving that this treaty was serious and we may count on leftists still on the bottom of the polls.

Hope Colombia votes yes next time and never elect a single FARC member.

Rent an apartment in a nice neighbourhood in Lima (capital city) for example could cost you 500 to 267 US dollars aprox. (The food and other things here are incredibly cheap but good quality). We have PokerStars.net, that's all I know about poker m8. Read about Peruvian food

I think that can be a problem to people living in here only, but I don't know exactly how they treat foregin money.
Good luck, hope you get the correct move. Would be enjoying some NA inmigration here, we only get argies, hues and sometimes, niggers.

Nothing with Colombians who voted for No, but the ones who voted Yes don´t even deserve to be called colombians. They wanted to give the country to a group of narcoterrorrst faggots in exchange of nothing.

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are you fucking retarded? It's a plebiscite to "forgive" a thousands of terrorists and criminals. Imagine if there was a "peace" referendum to between Comando Vermelho or PCC and the federal goverment.

That is literally how a pure democracy works. Read some Plato, you uneducated faggot.

t.errorist

It's not possible.

You're not stable If you have guerrilas fighting the government and until some years ago drug cartels exploding things

see

nothing, they chose to exterminate the narcoterrorists

gj Columbia, launch another offensive and I hope the USA sends you more helicopters and aid

propaganda. The very question asked suggests that voting "yes" would bring peace, love and happiness, which is bullshit.

Plato it's a BITCH read based Aristotle

60k for beach house terrain on upper class "neighborhood" (eg the ex-president has a house there, mostly empty except during summer ofc) building the house must be 30k per floor, only two floors allowed I bet (I was on the front row, so only first floor and basement, enough for two living rooms, kitchen, 4 bedrooms with separate bathrooms and a tiny pool). Maintenance, security, gardens and stuff is probs 30k a year. Cost of living must be high all year round since it's an upper class area though.

There are places that must be as cheap or cheaper if you don't mind living closer to inawoods than as a city dweller (as in you have to protect your own security, long travels for resources->food, gas, and so on).

Mostly because this whole deal was poorly worded and there was confusion everywhere on what was going in on (both internally and internationally).
For example, they called it 'peace treaty' so if you were against it it could be understood as 'I am against peace and want war' rather than "I want peace but I don't agree with the terms of this treaty".
Secondly, FARC still have all their weapons, however, they would willingly give them up as soon as an agreement is reached.
Colombia as a country has pretty much has been "at peace" since the negotiations started 4 years ago (they were some incidents tho, however they were virtually insignificant compared to the daily attacks reports used to get before that.).
If the treaty had been approved today, it would have mean that the conflict would have ended definitely. But since it didn't, we'll have to wait until a most fair agreement is reached, but under any circumstance mean full blown war.

>3% of the seats

Why so insecure, amigo?
Don't you trust our long track record leaning to the right, our economic liberalism and our fear of becoming Venezuela?

If yes won, FARC wouldn't have done shit in the polls. Remember those guys from M19 that have never had a president? Remember how all the left politicians that made it as majors have the lowest popularity?

It's funny becouse Perú is Canada without the leaf.

its a bretty important call, it should have required 75%-80% of yes votes to pass

it only means the fucking agreements weren't fair enough.
They need to address more the victims rather than give all the good things to criminals.

Thanks good Columbian user! I hope your country will have a fair agreement with FARC.

What about a rent in Barranco?

I don't even understand how can this agreement and referendum be constitutional.

>let's give a bunch privileges, seats in congress, no justice, and in exchange you stop practicing murder and kidnapping

FARC is making the deal because their external supporters are either collapsing or defecting to America.

In six months they will offer a better deal. In five years they will be background noise.

kek, reverse germany?

kek, remove the leaf! feel the breeze!

If you like to party barranco sounds fine I guess, but leafy didnt want a big city, and Lima is sorta the biggest city right? :P

Yes, that desn´t deserve to be constitutional, and those commies just deserve a bullet in their head, not an office in my country´s government.

Theyll hold their positions, make some $$, have rich bratty kids, assimilate into mainstream Colombia, ironically become what they fought against.

How is it not? Most nations have had this type of transition to democracy. Eastern Europe, Chile after Pinochet, Spain after Franco, etc etc etc. The FARCs hold power and to actually rule the country they need to make minor concessions in order to ensure peace and stability. Still it sucks ass. This deal felt far more one sided than when a country was negotiating with their military ala Chile or Spain.

Same happen in Venezuela The leftist parties that eventually bring Chavez into power were practically the same. These people are criminals and they have to pay for what they have done. In money or blood.

I voted no because I thought yes would win. I have to admit I was a bit worried, but now they said everything is going to be fine.

Me the same, I was even thinking were to go before this become a commie country like Venezuela.

Lima is like the only city. And Arequipa, which is basically a shithole for chileans to go and pillage as much as they can.
Trujillo is a big if, the rest are mainly big countys.

Colombia already is a democracy, in fact they were one of the few Latin American countries that remained a democracy during the cold war, if not the only one. FARC is opposed to that democratic status quo, they true goal is a dictatorship, and to capitulate to them is a jab on democracy.

BASED COLOMBIANS I LOVE YOU ALL.
IF I COULD GRAB ALL THE SALT FROM THE LEFTIES TEARS AROUND HERE I COULD SEASON MY NON EXISTENT FOOD

Are you talking about Uribe?

Yes let's reward them and bring them into congress so they can run for the presidency just like Venezuela did.

I didn't go to vote thinking the same.
Was actually pretty worried once I realized NO had actually won.
After informing myself, I realized this isn't such a big deal and a lot of people are just ignorant and like to spout
shit out of their mouths talking about stuff they know nothing about just to fit in.

I'm pretty sure most people that voted for the SI would look back and see how stupid they were once they realize what they were actually doing.

back when I was a kid that was true, but nowadays there are several decent cities, I liked Chiclayo. Sure it isn't Sydney but it's all about being comfy and having everything you need nearby, you can have a comfy rural home/villa away from every city as well.

>I didn't go to vote
Kill yourself. Less than the 50% of the people voting is fucking bad.

Are you sure about that?. Collect some money from all tax payers and buy military equipment is far much cheaper that keeping thousands of people on welfare forever.

Thanks, that feels good.
Kill your self, How does it feel to have to return to the forest?

honestly I didn't go because I was misinformed and knew next to nothing about this whole deal.
Do you really want people like me, that isn't interested in the slightest in the political scene of their own country go out there and vote misinformed?

>What if they just decide to not find any job?
They are not going to give them money forever.

>>Also what if they dont even decide to leave their criminal activities like coke selling?
They are going to reveal their trade routes and the place with illegal crops.

as long as you stay away from the 2 largest cities (which are Detroit-tier) your stay here, either long or short will be sweet. Specially in the city of Cuenca where thousands of retired americans and europeans live now. Perfect climate and good food and very chill people.

Como se siente el saber que el día de la horca se acerca, zurdo de mierda?

La hora de salir a cazar zurdos se aproxima...

Oh I know. FARC is horrible and should be purged, their leaders tried and executed, and their assets seized and given to their victims. But who would be willing to help Columbia? Not the current help, but full out help to destroy them.

If they go back to the drawing board they should buy off the most centralist members in exchange for getting rid of the rest of them.

That's your own fault senpai. Just go vote for whatever you feel like it's the best thing to do, doesn't matter if you're going because you ate some lechona but at least do your job.

>Cuenca
FUCK OFF, WE'RE FULL

>vote misinformed
From what I've been told, democracy is best, and you better vote for a shitty ruler, horrible rules, and make the country worse for everyone but yourself, is better than not going to vote, so.. yes vote, even if you don't know shit, if you don't care, or if you vote at random, democracy is best.

I earn $1500 month and I don't consider myself middle class. It's all expensive as fuck here because stupid taxes like 10% tax for foreign movies in cinemas

>vast majority of murders are committed by right-wing militarizes
>let's blame the FARC instead

Really makes you think...

ok,now I want to see you with a rifle going to the jungle, faggot.

The Democrats were right, we should have taken all of this hemisphere.
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welcome to Colombia.

People will happily vote for whatever if you give them a meal

Are food still scarce in Venezuela?

You kidding me, I would never do that, I'm too comfy posting in Cred Forums, I have no ever reason to fight shit as long as it doesn't directly affect me.

Besides, that would be scary as hell dude, wouldn't put my life at risk for such stupid reasons

Good luck trying to catch them in the jungle. It is literally worse than Vietnam

It gets worse everyday.

That ice looks delish tbqh

Commies BTFO
>Hurr dur if you are against the (((peace treaty))) go and fight in the jungle
seriously this is the best thing they have to say?

Did the US embargo Venezuela? Oil prices are going back up.

I thought you guys were okay on home appliances? From what I remember your Neo Comandante gave you free way to steal them at will.

How the fuck that refri have ice in the top and nothing frozed in the bottom?

It's still under $50 a barrel.

the Vietnamese had the military support of the USSR, PRC, East German, North Korea, and many other communist countries. The U.S. was essentially fighting a large communist alliance. Is there any such alliance supporting FARC? I doubt they still get aid from Venezuela considering the state Venezuela is in.

Yes of course you are me.
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if they don't find a job, they will truly join with their colombian homeless poor nation, we welcome them with open arms.

We only give them welfare for 2 years, after that they are all on their own.

Did you loot that pot out of a house fire?

nah it's not

and it was no matter of emergency either, like SHOULD BE RETALIATE ???

you are like already at war, this was at best a method to check if people are still willing to put a fight and justify further usage of violence

They don't need such alliance when they have infinite money for weapons and training.

>b-but embargo!!!

socalism is a form of auto-embargo. Against imports, against trade, self-sufficient economy bullshit that always fails.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_policy_of_the_Hugo_Chávez_government#Agriculture_and_land_reform

No, our own government did.
They blocked all food importations because they could not assure they would be sold at "the fair price" hence literally putting us under siege.
If you add that to the fact that they took over most of the local farms and then ruined them you get your typical recipe for famine.

Fun story: you need to be part of the socialist party in order to get those.

"In revolution, the extraordinary becomes normal" - this is the venezuelan socialist party slogan.

I don't even know what is wrong with it.
Don't all your appliances look like shit over there too?
I got pots that are over 20 years old.

It says anglo only, other nationalities are at the same tier as bolivians and peruvians, even if european

>wanting to move to colombia
I never understood this.

Really, why you niggers want to even come to this shithole, why the fuck?

>37.1% turnout

>South American (((democracy)))

>I don't even understand how can this agreement and referendum be constitutional.

It's not. Santos wanted to overrule the constitution with the referendum.

Any qt Colombian wanna adopt me desu ?

This

They are just opening a potential bridge between politic issues at their convenience, if for they was to easy to become such a force and a pain in the ass for Colombia, how much hard for they could be to put one of them as a president and do whatever they want?

Cheap coke, cheap living expenses, cheap women that will suck any foreigner dick.

they will still be targeted by criminals for being foreign, scary af.

but oh well, if you're brave I guess it's fine.

They refused a plebiscite that would transform FARCS into a political party. How can this be a bad thing?

A friend of mine moved to work at Efecto Studio, another is working as a web developer there, they say it's nice, but we'll anything is compared to Venezuela... (And to think you guys used to come here)

You still need to have foreign currency, your wage in pesos worths nothing

Colombian army doesn't have the same military resources as USA. Even if they manage to push FARC out of Colombian territory, they can split up and regroup in neighbor countries like Ecuador.

In that case our army has to take action, and considering our army is poorer than them, it is a big problem. And the amazon jungle is way harder for a soldier to handle than Vietnam

A minor political party like the M19
Google M19, this sort of agreement has happened before.

A Canadian coming here must have some canadian funbucks with him. If he's a poorfag he can sell his ass to old ladies I guess.

basically what said.

If I keep to the better neighbourhoods/speak spanish I don't see myself getting into any trouble. Maybe in Bogota or Cartagena, but Medellin has cleaned up its act quite a bit.

Honestly if our country had not voted for Chavez in the first place we would have murdered the guerilla together, easily.

Costa Rica is really good if you want cheap women, living expenses aren't cheap though.

All leafs I have met are pretty nice people though and they seem happy over here.

It can´t. just the stupid commies say it´s bad.

Bogota has a 18°C
Medellin 30°C+
Cartagena 40°C

Be careful.

Even if you kick Maduro's ass the opposition is cucked enough to back another peace treaty

Even if you kick Maduro's ass the opposition is cucked enough to back another peace treat

The Colombian man has spoken.

/thread

You shouldn't make any agreement with drug dealers. Your country made the right decision. Also Cuba is behind this bullshit, so you better stay away from them.

what was the position of the catholic church btw?
sounds like something those sons of bitches would support

Temp wise? That's just fine, my Colombian mate tells me Medellin>Cartagena>Bogota in terms of safety, is that true?

Please don´t bring it back me.

Yes.

We would have memed them out of their power, and internet autists would have found dirt on them in no time.

I fucking hate colombian people, please dna bomb colombia and when every colombian is wiped tell the boers they can move here

Don't fall for the Colombia meme, over here we have been riddled with Colombian refugees fleeing from that hellhole, they are naturally violent people.

Actually the regions where "Yes"won are the hardest-hit by violence

I was talking more about 1998 an so on, current opposition is just the government in disguise. We fought the guerilla almost as long Colombia did but our thing was just keeping them out, we didn't have to live the same struggle.

This guy gets it, we cant win the war because the complexity of the territory and drug money fueling the FARC infrastructure, we need to negotiate peace but current agreements were pushed by Santos agenda to fullfil his political promises disregarding of the oposition concerns, Santos went as far to treat the country in case that the referendum failed. I dont think that most of points were completely flawed but we need to unify opinions for this shit to work.

That's a fair point but worse people have been in that congress, and they get re-elected every 4 years

indeed, the support anything what have the word "peace" or shits like that, and a lot of idiots follow them with no care about to read the treaty

But your cost of living is bretty high mate.

Lol the Catholic Church here is crazy as fuck anti-left some of them even calling for arms.

It is politically stable, considering that democracy was only broken by a dictatorship once in the XX century. But of course our democracy is defficient and I suspect that our innate weakness and lack of skill at organizing grand projects is precisely why we didn't have any discontinuities like Chile or Argentina

>territory

considering those fucks have to go through the same thing I dont see the handicap other than them only having to defend, there are drones now, aim to kill

user....

Canuck if something I have learned visiting other places is that statistics are shit to judge a country.

>Arauca
>Casanare
>Meta
Not hit by violence.

It's the price of 67 years of peace in a region plagued by war, genocide and violence.

How much would rent in San Jose cost? Assuming most casinos are located there

It came as far as publishing videos of religious leaders telling people that the peace negotiations were a gay, communist satanic conspiration to bring the country down. You cant make that shit up

Hope they reach an agreement soon.

It would be relatively easy if they could face a decent battle. When they see themselves in danger, flee and drop their uniforms and mix within civil population. Non-conventional warfare

You just did.

The polls were predicting a 66% win for the Yes just a few weeks ago.

Beyond their negotiating position I'd say that there's no real political leadership anymore. The Left merely proposes referendums and bombards people with propaganda but somehow just forget to actually influence or convince people of their ways.

Virtue signaling and smugly calling opponents uneducated just won't cut it

Look if you are negotiating for "peace" it already means the whole thing is over and one side lost.
This is just a kick in the nuts for the FARCs because now they wont get ALL the free goodies.

you guys who voted No unironically follow Uribe?

And whats the difference betwern the termal profile of a guerrillero with a weapon and a farmer with a shovel?? You people think that they go around with a red flag over their head when they just blend with normal people even inside the cities

Cheapest apartments I see are around 200 dollars.

nah, Ordoñez is where its at

Let's say comfy semi modern apartments. Wouldn't want to live in the bottom tier desu, would i be fine with 2k USD/month?

How safe is Colombia from leftist populist rethoric?

I love you Colombia.

Colombia please don't make the mistake Uruguay did.

We had the same terrorist commies, they were granted forgiveness, and now they lead the government, because the political opposition is too retarded to do anything.

bogota bitch detected

try living in the warzone before you vote for more war

Right wing LATAM countries thread?

DR reporting in

ofc my country has about the same military capability lol but idk the US can help with some sat support, set up a killzone so they cant retreat anywhere?

If they can mix with civilians then it is not jungle jungle, and if it is only a few civilians and you just arent sure if they are or are not, then soz guys but just kill all the males on sight, provide relocation+gibs to false positives families.

Id expect a "refugee" surge towards bigger cities if doing that, then you just need to have good filters (like allow kids and women but detain all adult males again).

All in all its easier to win a war from my chair so whatever I just find it hard to believe that the army would not be able to win this if they truly wanted to...

Democracy is overrated, it's just mob rule.

Constitutional Republic is where it's at. I feel ours held up pretty well considering the beating it continues to take from the leftists.

Bogotá is sick with young college pothead leftist syndrome.

r8 my OC lads

it's reverse balkanization

noticiasunolaredindependiente.com/2016/09/25/noticias/religion-y-plebiscito/

>FARC
KILL THOSE COMMIE BASTARDS

That's more than enough, but it depends on your expenses and lifestyle.

heh

who is this rican dican

Gr8 work m8, 8/8

Dangerous that's how it starts.

I was asking the opinion of the catholic church, i.e. priests and bishops
these are just laymen

this is the only actual quote from your link
>“Están utilizando la paz como excusa para imponer la ideología de género, piénselo bien el 2 de octubre usted decide el futuro de Colombia, usted decide el futuro de sus hijos, usted decide el futuro de la familia colombiana”

now where does it say that it's a "communist satanic conspiracy to bring the country down" or that anyone is gay?

nice unbiased article, faggot

this agreement would overrule the constitution, the agreement would become the new constitution

i dont fucking blame you guys for voting no. granting power and money to terrorists. that is pure evil. having read up on the farc i think they all need to be exterminated.

I don't follow Uribe, but I voted no.

Uribe hunted them down relentlessly for 8 years but was unable to take back the more selvatic areas because they just split in small groups and set ambushes for their chasers. There is no way for fucking war to suceed in this jungles

i'm a bald slav and people mistook me for colombian while i was there.

what the actual fuck. damn thats a massive victory for democracy. you saved your country. good job columbros.

first brexit, now this, now it's america's turn to stem the tide of insanity and corruption.

he reduced their forced by over 50%, who knows what would've happened if Santos actually fulfilled his promise of continuing Uribe's policies?

>Letting them get into politics

lol who was the fucking cuck who agreed to this during negotiations?

Good job Colombia, you're not cucks,

>tfw half-colombian who doesn't speak spanish or have any connection with latin culture

my dad wants me to visit Colombia with him, is it even safe down there? I'm scared to go.

> Doesnt speak spanish.

How does that even happens?

I follow Allah

well even I am scared to leave home, and get my lifu ended, it happened, there has been homicides everywhere and it's pretty normal.

I mean, I don't know, you aren't allowed to show yourself as gringo, you have to pretend to be a poor fuck, and you have to watch out 180 degrees and be a paranoic fuck all the time.

Our local news don't help either, like 50 people get killed daily but since that is normal, it is not streamed on news save but one or two times.

it was a legit question since now everyone thinks im a paraco or an Uribe followere since i voted no

colombia is literally the best country down stairs

people are really dense, just ignore them

Stop being an insecure nigger, and tell them that you don't follow Uribe.

Tell them that you ironically voted for no, because it was unthinkable that no would win.

Come to manizales, the robbers let you take out the documents of your wallet and the rapist kiss your neck to put you at ease

so you voted no just to support the losing side?

I don't get it

I was born and raised in the USA without any hispanic influence except for my dad. I guess I'm an uncle juan.
yeah this scares the hell out of me. I'm a pale as fuck middle class mestizo, I've never had to develop any street smarts. Even though my dad knows his way around, I'm afraid I'd be picked out as a foreigner pretty easily.

b-but first world european countries will gibe us free monies for peace not war, so the issues is with the first world countries in the first place :^)

Yeah, you guys were more modern, had all cool stuff, were richer, people "escaped" from colombia, to go to venezuela.

Then chavez won and you became a shithole fast.

Really makes you think

having strategic access to the Caribbean and the pacific ocean is a bit more than getting gibs tho

I see you posting the other day, the canadian guy who plays poker! you're INTP I remember?

>0.7% difference
>massive victory
More like dodging a bullet

>massive

Ar U high m8?

Its massive when you think literally no one was on the "No" side: they had their government (and several foreign ones) shilling for that "yes" hard.
No one saw it coming. They didn't even had a plan B. It was Brexit on drugs. Literally/

Everything is popularity contest these days.

Yeah, but is refusing to forgive the sins of FARCs past worth continuation of war?

WTF I regret voting no, now.

>Live with communists
>Have peace

Pick one

>Detroit-tier
Then how are they your largest cities.

kek

twitter.com/georgesoros/status/781844361457917952

twitter.com/georgesoros/status/781844361457917952

twitter.com/georgesoros/status/781844361457917952

SOROS ON SUICIDE WATCH

I wanted yes to win but this twitter confuses me.
Was my judgement wrong?

this really makes you think hmm

>money or blood

I think you mean money and blood friend. No ifs or buts about it.

Always do the opposite of Soros unless it relates to market bets.

Hey how do you feel about gringos failing to imitate paisa accent and thinking they know a lot about Colombia because they saw Narcos?

Nice

That's not even true, (little) inclusion in politics doesn't mean give away the country to the terrorists, I don't understand why people believe this, I can't understand the way the country was going to be given to the FARC.

Can you think of something better then?
It's called a NEGOTIATION for a reason. FARC won't accept 20 years in jail or something like that. No one will ever surrender in a NEGOTIATION.

Oh shit, your doubles prove you are right

The fair thing is that if they want a place in congress, they should win it by the vote.
And now they know they will never get it that way either. Life is shit but we all live for these little moments.
FUCK YOU LEFTISTS FAGGOTS

not waging war when you still can afford it is supreme cuckery. would you pay the jizya because it's cheaper than fighting the caliphate?

if you can afford it, fight. if you cannot afford it, surrender. apparently your referendum rejected surrendering to FARC by a narrow margin.