Why do

This, Judas was literally a jew.

Well, in fairness, the Jews didn't kill Jesus directly. I think there was a mental disconnect from "The Jews killed Jesus by letting the Romans kill him" that made it's way into "The Romans killed Jesus with no outside input." Still a dick move.

we do

its clearly in the bible

We don't even know what went down in the dark ages with all the book burnings. Sounds like a Christian conspiracy theory and hate propaganda gone awry, you can't even kill Jeebus, he just rose into heaven or some shit no? Also, Christians should apologize to the Jew and the world for ripping off Judaism and mutilating it into Islams predecessor.

FUCKING SLAVES GET YOUR ASS BACK HERE

I thought the story was that the jews pushed the romans into arresting him, then in an act of mercy stabbed him (mercy is relative, they pierced his heart with a spear so he would die quickly, not slowly on the crucifix)

Didn´t some roman soldier poke him with a spear to torture him?

>Why do Christians believe jews didnt kill Christ?
thats only american christians everyone else christian knows the jews did.

no they were seeing if he was still alive

For actual silver shekels too.
Literally Jew'd Jesus.

It was to make sure he was as dead as dead could be

all i know is jesus wasn't a pedophile degenerate like that phrophet Mohammad Allah cunt

>Why do Christians believe jews didnt kill Christ?
Because Romans did?
Jews wanted him killed and tried to facilitate his execution. Romans were the ones who physically killed Christ.

jesus was a shitty political movement. it was an early attempt at socialism and it only amassed a measly following of 12 people. those people got pissed and killed jesus when they came to their senses and realized jesus duped em. This view is not taught in Christianity and because its easier to believe he was the son of God and posed a huge threat to Roman power. its cock and bull

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Southern Baptist here
We know the jews killed him, but also accept that some Romans were involved. Good thing I'm germanic, huh? Amirite?

>Romans were the ones who physically killed Christ.
the jews were the string pullers and the romans merely the puppet

>I've never read the bible: the post

No that's not what happened. The jewish high priests wanted Jesus killed, but did not want to face the public lash because he was commanding very large crowds. SO, they pushed the Romans to arrest him on the grounds that he was a dissenter against the Roman empire, stirring up rebellion. He was arrested, but found innocent by Pilate. However, PIlate had other things to attend to so he put it to the Jews: they can free one man, but they must choose between Jesus who was innocent, or a murderer known as Barrabaus. They overwhelmingly chose Barrabus.

As for the spear, Jesus was pierced in his side to see if he was truly dead on the cross which is why we hear of the legend of the Spear of Longinus, which was the spear that pierced Jesus' side. When his side was pierced, not only blood flowed, but water. He was truly dead.

If Jim tells me to stab you and I do, who stabbed you?

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>i suck new testament cock

Jews came and conquered the USA. The rest of the world got PC culture.

Russel Crowe played the OG jew, he wouldn't of killed christ.

the Jews literally claim responsibility

When Pilate saw that he was accomplishing nothing, but that instead a riot was breaking out, he took water and washed his hands before the crowd. “I am innocent of this man’s blood,” he said. “You shall bear the responsibility.”c

All the people answered, “His blood be on us and on our children!”

So Pilate released Barabbas to them. But he had Jesus flogged and handed Him over to be crucified.

protestants

I dunno but its true Jews did indeed kill Jesus Christ

Never understood this
Poor Pontius Pilate is vilified for doing the job
Those jews were rowdy. He did what he needed to do
Don't forget that a few decades later the Jews killed thousands when they rebelled

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No you literally have not read the bible with a post like that. None of that is remotely true even by contemporary accounts.

They did. And they are proud of it. AND they would do it again any time. Now Jesus is burning in hot excremente next to Tactius, who is burning in hot semen, in hell. Judaism wouldn't evne exist, if they hadn't rejected Jesus. The whole existence of these "Jews" depends on killing and rejecting Jesus.

Congrats you can read the title of a book, you must be an expert on it

The Jews demanded his death and Pilate offered them to choose between a criminal and Jesus and they demanded that Jesus be killed then Pilate said I am innocent of this mans's blood, you shall bear the responsibility. to which the jews all answered him " His blood be on us and our children "

The Catholic Church has put the culpability on the Jews up until Vatican 2 with Nostra Aetate. They were the ones that came to Pilate to put Christ to death, actively chose Barabbas.

Hasn't /pol caught on that Jews do things by means of other people… ffs, I thought people came here to become jewwise.

They poked him to make sure he was actually dead. But i guess surprise surprise

FUCKING SLAVES, GET YOUR ASSES BACK HERE!

The Jews said " His blood be on us and our children"

So you think Jim stabbed you even though I did then.
That's neat.

you're an idiot. mary was a whore. just shut up.

Christ-chan
Deus Vult
Who?

dungeon master

Yes but Romans flogged him and put the thorny crown on him. They were involved, but not responsible.
I appreciate that the jews are responsible. They are. The Romans IIRC didn't think he was the son of God, until after he died. The centurion watching what happened after he died knew who he was.

Not an argument

hey, what're you doing round here in that JABRONI OUTFIT?

But Jim threatened to kill you, if you did not stab me

Not an argument

hopefully because they realize that the bible is entirely symbolic and literal interpretation is only encouraged by lackadaisical retards or retard ringleaders on power trips.

The Romans were administrating the law in their province they had no care who the criminal was

Vatican II.

Someone orders the romans to do it with a subtle threat of rebellion since the romans was in rule.

CRUCIFY HIM

Someone Yells "kill that guy" is equal to being responsible

That's not a proper analogy tripfag
>if jim demands you be jailed, but doesn't want anything to with that, and leaves the decision to me... assuming I deny you the right to freedom, who really jailed you?
That doesn't mean jim wasn't involved, considering I said, "the imprisonment of tripscum be on me and my children"

I believe parts like geniuses and revelations contain symbolism because what actually happened/happens we can't exactly comprehend. But I believe everything that Jesus did was literal

I agree they had to think about maintaining order with these kikes. As far as they knew he was just some dude.
Unknowing accomplices to the murder of Christ.

Maybe because it literally wasn't the Jews?

He was executed for opposing the empire and being called king of da Joos. Pretty simple really.

>Why do Christians believe jews didnt kill Christ?
>Throughout history it was mainstream knowledge. What happened?

The Jewish method of capital punishment was stoning.
The Romans were the ones who used crucifixion.

Reminder that the Catholic Church was founded by romans after they killed Jesus (basically forced by the jews) because they realized he was indeed the son of God

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But even Pilate the governor offered them a criminal in place of Jesus and they picked to set the criminal free. And Pilate said he washes his hands and says that he is innocent of Jesus's blood

>executed for opposing the empire
what sort of fucking shit is this

So? I stabbed you. Not Jim. I could have very easily refused Jim.

Not for a deontological ethicist. I executed the action - my reasons for why I did so are absolutely irrelevant to the fact that I am the sole holder of the responsibility for what I do or do not do.

Should jews apologize for it?

they should, either a jewish leader in israel or america

>who is Charles Manson

Crucifixion was a sentence reserved for crimes against the Roman state. If Jesus were found guilty of heresy or blasphemy, his punishment would have been stoning. The fact that Pilate tried to pawn the blame off on the Jews changes absolutely nothing; the road still leads back to Rome.

what if jim was going to stab you though

FUCKING SLAVES, GET YOUR ASS BACK HERE!

>Pilate tried to pawn the blame off on the Jews
The Romans did not go out to kill jesus. It was the Jews who brought him to the Romans

Dont stop billy

youtube.com/watch?v=y4LqRRI2jKo

What *if* Jim was going to stab me?
What Jim does has nothing whatsoever to do with what I do, which is to either stab you or not-stab you.

We believe they killed him, he just came back

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What happened to the pic? I liked S&M Jesus.

>What Jim does has nothing whatsoever to do with what I do, which is to either stab you or not-stab you.
i don't think you understand the concept of blackmail and threatening

Jews jewed the protestant sects and the Vatican II

The kikes commanded the romans to kill him

If your would actually read your own book, it was Roman soldiers who arrested him. The Sanhedrin (which were by that point basically a Vichy collaborationist administration) had relayed the Temple moneychanger incident to the Romans, but they were primarily concerned with the damage to property, which under Jewish law is punishable only by a fine and restitution. It was Pilate who saw the act as a political one.

It's irrelevant to a person's moral culpability for what they actually do. If someone threatens me to do something, I'm *NO LESS* responsible for doing or not-doing that something for which I was threatened.

You know I'm agreeing with you, right?

they even brag about it

>but they were primarily concerned with the damage to property
its not their property they were trespassing and decercrating his Father's temple

Ya'll seem to think I'm refuting OP's claim. I'm actually reinforcing it. What I mean is that people originally knew it was the Jews, but over time, some folks glossed over the Jews decision for Jesus to be crucified, then citing the Romans as the ones who decided to kill him outright.

sorry mate i'm fighting too many people in this thread

He was found guilty for murdering 7 people even though he never physically killed anyone, he just told his cult followers to

>no jews, jim doesn't stab you
>jews tell jim to stab you, if you don't they might rebel as that had been the long thought belief that the King of Jews would help overthrow Rome.
>jim doesn't really care less, jews take full responsibility

Modern day "jews" are 90% descended from Khazars circa the 9th century CE. These devils hide behind judaism and have ZERO relation to ancient Roman province of Judah/Nazareth/Galilee (((Israel))) etc.

Kike detected

Why do I care about the arbitrary decisions of some random judge and jurors?

They have nothing whatsoever to do with morality.

Like Arnold Schwarzenegger.

It's all good, brudi. May God bless you.

ASSWECAN

Fundamentalist Christians have an apocalypse fantasy to get Jesus back.

"Some Christian Zionists believe that the gathering of the Jews in Israel is a prerequisite for the Second Coming of Jesus. The idea that Christians should actively support a Jewish return to the Land of Israel, along with the parallel idea that the Jews ought to be encouraged to become Christians, as a means of fulfilling a Biblical prophecy has been common in Protestant circles since the Reformation."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism

Why do Christians circumcise their newborns if they believe they are made in God's image?

I was raised Catholic and I've always known the Jews killed Christ.

They were supposed to kill Jesus though. He had to die.

>apocalypse fantasy to get Jesus back.
lets bring in the fucking anti christ to get Jesus back even though you will meet him in heaven

>Why do Christians circumcise their newborns
what are you north american fags up to

Its right there in bible the church canonized, "let his blood be upon us and our children."

Retarded proteatants cutting their dicks off.

The Catholic Church is BS.

Galileo shows how the Catholic Church was wrong in their teachings, even when they asserted that they were right. They believed wrong things. - that the earth was the center of everything and that it was still because of verses in the bible. God’s ordained church was wrong. They taught wrong things. They taught it for a LONG time (since their beginnings) as ABSOLUTE TRUTH. The Catholic Church (God’s ordained church) was blatantly wrong.

Catholics were wrong about things they were CERTAIN about. They DON'T know what they claim to know. They’re just asserting it without good objective evidence. The Catholic Church care more about if it fits with the Bible first before they care about if it’s actually objectively true.

Fundamentalists just asserting that they’re right (with no good objective evidence). Even when they were BLATANTLY WRONG. They make the same repeated assertions that it MUST fit the bible first BEFORE actually seeing if it’s actually true or not. The Catholic Church doesn’t care for the real truth, they just want the truth that fits their narrative. Faith is not a good way to truth.

Right or wrong, that would have been for the Sanhedrin to decide. If things hadn't spiraled out of hand, he would have been able to plead his case before them.

Remember when Pilate tried to hand Jesus to the OTHER part of the local government, the Tetrarch of Galilee (basically a county sheriff/admimistrator in a fancy outfit, considering that Judea wasn't much larger than New Jersey), he returned him to Pilate and said he couldn't think of anything to charge him with either, even though Pilate was obviously pressuring him to make something up, if need be.

Pilate wanted to get rid of Jesus, and he wanted to make it look like the local Jews were responsible for it, so as a) not to start a riot, and b) to CYA so that if things went south, he could claim to his superiors in Rome that it wasn't his fault.

Turns out that Rome didn't believe him either, and combined with a few other mishaps, Pilate was recalled to Rome a few years after the crucifixion.

the guy who invented corn flakes tricked everyone into doing it to stop people from fapping. I'm not joking this literally happened.

They dont? Where exactly? In US?

It's common knowledge that jews killed Jesus and it's taught in schools here.

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But Jesus was a jew too...

typical americans, us proddies in au and nz don't do weird shit like that

Yes, good goy, believe what we said.

God commanded Israelites to do it. IIRC it was to identify as Israelites and to show obedience to God. Can't really see why people do it today, besides Jew influence.

Cheesedicks are gross.

I think that a new year is approaching but its never too early for new years resolutions! Dont wait for 2017 to move out of your moms basement or lose some pounds, or get a girlfriend!

>implying

True Christians know the deal. Don't get it twisted by listening to protestants.

Just sayin, I was barely following your convo, too busy responding to blasphemers

Jewish New Year is today. L'shana tova, famalam.

>being this much of a fucking kike and a leaf

ah you fucker post a proper sized image you cunt!

>Cheesedicks
what the hell are you on about

God said to.
I don't think that's terribly confusing.

MY SIDES

>catholic """church"""
>true Christians
You should pray to God, not "through" a saint. God doesn't need that.
You also should read your bible

This is what atheists actually believe

>God said to.

Hygiene.

That's nealdegrasstyson-tier understanding of history. Yes, it's true the papacy forced Galileo to recant. But there's considerably more layers to the history of the Catholic Church and it's relationship to European history. Take the time to understand the complexity of human history before you spout off declarative statements that make you look foolish.

That being said, I distrust the Catholic Church as being fallible as any human institution.

Based on the other qutoes, pilate wanted to whip him and sent him on his way.

the responsible is on you and you jews must apologize

>Turns out that Rome didn't believe him either, and combined with a few other mishaps, Pilate was recalled to Rome a few years after the crucifixion.

iirc he was recalled to Rome for deforesting Judea with all the crucifixions, and being unusally cruel even for Romans. One of the few times Rome listened to the locals in any province, probably because Pilate wasn't Roman Born, and people in Rome wanted him gone anyway.

Your supposed to shower once a day and pull your foreskin back too when you do it faggot kike cuck leaf.

>That being said, I distrust the Catholic Church as being fallible as any human institution
Good. On. You.

Or, alternatively, you could be cut and not have to worry about it ever.

I'm Orthodox. Intercession is in the bible. You don't need to ask the saints to pray for you, but it's good to have friends in high places.

who the hell does not wash their cock

what passage

The only testament that covers the Passion in depth clearly says that Pilate had an agenda, and asked Jesus certain questions in the hopes he could get him to commit blasphemy and force the Sanhedrin to execute him. Jesus was a smart enough cookie that he didn't take the bait.

The deforestation was because of excessive construction, not crucifixion. Crucifixes were generally re-used over and over again. The cruelty part was probably true, but it wasn't out of any sense of compassion, but rather out of fear that it was stoking further unrest (which turned out to be completly true, ending in the Bar Kochba revolt a century later).

Yeah better just mutilate your cock. There is no good reason for doing that shit.

>it's good to have friends in high places
What help can you POSSIBLY derive from some human soul that God cannot provide you with?

adolf eichman was sentenced even if he didnt personaly killed anyone and only ordered it.

so it seems jews are hypocrites here?

Not everyone shares your criteria for what constitutes a "good" reason for doing or not doing something.
I think circumcision provides more substantive benefits than worm-dicks, and thus think I have better reasons to cut my sons than to leave them with maggot-penises.

James 5:16 Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working.

1 Timothy 2:1 I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people

Revelation 8:3 Another angel with a golden censer came and stood at the altar; he was given a great quantity of incense to offer with the prayers of all the saints on the golden altar that is before the throne. 4 And the smoke of the incense, with the prayers of the saints, rose before God from the hand of the angel.

All Catholic teachings must adhere to:
1. God created everything out of nothing.
2. God created an orderly universe (the universe is not a product of chance)
3. God sustained everything in being (everything depends on God for existence)

Catholic theologians said the Earth was unmoving because of the Bible.

"The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved." Chronicles 16:30, etc.

They claimed that the Bible (with an unmoving/still Earth, with a sun that revolved around it) was ABSOLUTELY true for centuries. They don't care about the truth, only about the truth that fits their narrative.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_yet_it_moves

Intercession is just monotheism taking from polytheism. It's all bullshit (with no good objective evidence) anyways. Bronze-Age people made shit up because they didn't know how the world worked.

Retard, catholics are humans and all truths are catholic and of God.

Jesus was a Jew.

Because the majority of them have never even so much as cracked open a Bible.

Nice thumbnail faggot

Are the Jews are to blame, or are the Romans?
The real answer? All are to blame.

It is the failing of modernity to conceptualize such spiritual events in spiritual terms. Since no universal, spiritual, metaphysical, or objective reality outside of scientism is permitted in a truly modern or post-modern concept, then “blame” and “race” is taken only in the modern understanding: of biological ethnicity.

The first two (Jews/Romans) specifically pander to utilitarian and modern obsessions with materialism and biology. Indeed, the first two seem to make the same mistake which, according to Pope Benedict, accused Christ in the first place: by attempting to push a political agenda by pandering to the masses for excitement. It is the great irony that modern “anti-semitism” takes on the same demagogic form as the quintessential crucifixion of a Jew.

Both acted not as their race had been called to act — Romans to rule the world with Justice, and Jews to bring the Messiah — but as cowards. They abdicated not only their race but their virility. They became nobodies. Thus, it was neither race that condemned Christ. It was, in fact, the rather unique attribute to the human race: our ability to negate our own race-identity. It was our choice to deracinate and degenerate ourselves from the gloria of our ancestors that caused the Jew to act un-Jewish and the Roman to act un-Roman. It is our betrayal of our lineage that causes every act of us, who are made in the image and likeness of God, acting un-Godly to continually condemn Jesus to the cross.

Nice pasta tripsanon, where's it from?

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Like covering up the crimes of child molestors (moving them 4+ times) and still hiding documents to this day, worldwide for decades at least.

Not to mention indulgences.

Proofs?

Nice.

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Research into it. Read history.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence#Late_medieval_abuses

Wiki, but it gives you a quick rundown.

Tips fedora. Religious bullshit is going to cause WWIII. Millennials don't understand how much older people really believe this shit.

What's the big deal about Jesus? He was just a weird Jew who was having an identity crisis.

youtube.com/watch?v=bSe0E1Mp2Ss

Pretty sure God killed Jesus by way of making humans fragile ass apes.

Fuck... you

And the Catholic Church used to be anti-Semitic as fuck. Unfortunately, da jooz sink their claws into fucking everything.

As for Prottie-fags, I have no clue how they aren't anti-Semitic. Pic related

same reason tons of idiot good goys think that "jews" today are real jews or at all connected to the bloodline of jesus, abraham, noah, adam, etc. pure ignorance and satanic subversion

They deleted my image..

Why would they do that?

Christians worship a wooden idol. You bow down to wood in the shape of a t. Lmao you damn pagan devils.