Historical Fascism

Historically, fascism has been associated with "nazism" and seen as a short-sighted system. There are those, however, who remain proponents of this system. Perhaps a proponent could explain its benefits?

>willingly being cucked by the state

Fascism and national socialism are different things

I can't get anyone to agree on what fascism is.

Minimally, it's an anti-democratic system of government. I think that's an interesting idea and it should be explored. Democracy sucks because people are stupid.

What part of national socialism is short sighted? You can't breed a master race over night.

There's actually a page for the Silver Legion, oddly enough it's on Tumblr!

Fascism was fine, National Socialism is what ruined it because it added a racist component.

essentially this. though natsoc understood the importance of health and eugenics, so it deserves credit for that

the existence of a strong state built upon nationalism unites people of all classes and keeps society united instead of devolving into factions which undermine the state. with a strong state neither the 1% nor the pleb masses can capture the state and misuse it, the state is dedicated to the nation alone. private competition is allowed but regulation also exists to preserve the environment, workers rights and jobs, ensuring a sustainable form of capitalism as opposed to neo-liberal casino capitalism. democracy is flawed as it associates the majority vote with wisdom, breeds a sense of ego where the individual is above all morality and responsibility, and people are ignorant and easily fooled into undermining their own economic interest, either through misguided socialism or neoliberalism. furthermore the freedom is an illusion, as all businesses and media outlets are owned by a profit-seeking few.

>giving retards freedom so they can do stupid things with the state
Amazing how faggots can still shill for muh constitutionalism when you're standing in its aftermath 200 years later.

The entire world has a "racist component". Different organisms fight in the arena of nature in order for their progeny to survive. This is the basic rule throughout nature. If the state does not stand to enrich and heighten your people it is utterly worthless.

a meritocratic bureaucracy is necessary to further the state and keep science at the center of all things the state does. nationalism fits into this as humans are collective animals, and need a sense of identity to feel secure and fulfilled. the individual is not an atom, he/she can only understand them-self and feel secure with themselves in reference to a wider community. nationalism is a natural tribal spirit which allows human cooperation, without agreed social norms and values trust among members of society is eroded and division is sure to follow. without this unifying spirit people focus on what they can get for themselves or their little clique from the state, instead of contributing to the state.growing the pie instead of fighting over maximizing your slice of the pie is the engine of progress. under unity we all work together to grow national prosperity, increasing our own in the process. without it, we fight over scraps. this is what distinguishes successful from failed states, whether people have this sense of nationalism and work towards prosperity or hoarding as much of the pie for themelves

the germans assumed they were superior on a genetic level, which was untrue. furthering your own people is what its all about, but don't assume u are the superior to all others based on a false theory. this led to them underestimating the soviets and americans

liberalism assumes there are different spheres of human life. personal, family, civil society, church,media, the economy and govt. to name a few. this is an assumption which is obviously false, all have an effect on each other, so in order to guide cultural evolution and ensure stability a state must have a role everywhere. nothing is ''beyond the state'', that distinction is fascicle and exists only in a liberal mind. this mindset is what has allowed culture to devolve so far in the west, as things are seen to be magically divided, when in fact everything under the roof of human civilization is connected in a holistic manner. for this reason fascism is totalitarian, as it is the only logical response to the nature of society.

People these days have trouble defining exactly what fascism is because our worldview has been so warped by modernity that we get bogged down in minutia that have been over-blown in our current liberal world. It can take on many forms depending on the character of the people who are a part of it. Across all places though it concerns itself with following Nature's law and the flourishing of the people through strong cooperation. They seek to build a government that is not based on some thought experiment of a philosopher, but one that syncs perfectly with man's true nature in order for him to evolve and thrive. All people in a certain group uniting under the state to create something that unabashedly advances their interests and spreads their civilization. Aussie user is explaining it pretty well, I'll see if I have anything to add.

They didn't underestimate anyone. That is a rather simplistic view. I would say that an intense love for your people and a wariness and a certain tinge of hostility would be necessary for a people to so rabidly want to put their folk above all else.

One important point is getting away from (((international finance))).

Honestly, this is the main reason why we can't have nice things.

There should be a racist element, an in-group priority. So minimal immigration, focus on assimilation and denying those of hostile ideologies like Judaism and Islam.

Health promotion instead of sugar coated foods. Education without Marxist thought. Promotion of self sufficiency instead of a nanny state.

People need a standard expecation, a normal way of things. From that point we can be somewhat liberal instead of always sliding further down into degeneracy.

the final purpose of society is to preserve and cultivate its people, both in number and quality. on an individual level, the final purpose of the individual is to raise a family and be part of a wider community, and be willing to sacrifice and lay down your life for these things. with faith in ideals and community do human beings find self-actualization and happiness. liberalism fails to see this and see humans only as rational utility maximizes pursuing private material gain, an empty excuse for a life which leaves many depressed, anxious and isolated. humans are not engines of an economy but a sociable animal, and only by living by this can a normal human find fulfillment. hence fascism opposes liberalism for being entirely misguided on the meaning of life and what brings and individual true joy and happiness.

on the contrary putting one's own in group above outsiders is entirely natural and takes no great feat to accomplish. what gets in the way these days is the predominance of cosmopolitanism among the elite, arising from ideologies such as capitalism, marxism, as well as religions such as Christianity and islam. however even in these cases human tribal instinct comes to the fore, and people see their ideological friends as the in group and on believers as outsiders who cannot be trusted.

*non-believers

My understanding of race and Christianity is : God seperated the races at Babylon, so we should not bring them back together. Anyone can become a Christian but we should have seperate lands.

In Revelation it describes a new Earth having kings and nations (ethnic nations) and we could all enter God's holy city and bring our good works or something to that effect.

I think the Judaized element of Christianity is a complete disgrace. I believe the new testament was entirely clear that the Jews are enemies of God.

That is my reconciling of being a fascist Christian.

That is why Christianity is anti-fascist. Man does not work like that; there will be no "staying in their own lands". All land on this earth has been conquered. As far as I know there aren't any original inhabitants of land left except maybe the Amazon and India. Man is a predator who's instinct tells him to kill with a weapon. To pretend otherwise is folly.

I wouldn't be opposed to European nations running the world.

It is our instinct but not to our own people. We aren't niggers.

>running

The end goal would be only Europeans in the world.

I'm just not as edgy as you. I don't see the need to kill them all.

It's not about edginess. It's just a fact. If you support their living you support that one day your descendant will be a negro. You deny the expansion of your race against a foreign organism.

Obviously, I don't support that. It is a stretch to make that connection.

If we confined all the negroes to one place, they are never going to build anything to get out of that place.

We could just take our technology away from them, stop giving them shots and let them figure it out.

Who knows, maybe the negroes that survive will be better. I doubt it though.

That is not a lasting solution. That is much more unlikely than what I propose. You know this. The aristocrats in the south had negros in chains. Now their daughters fuck them freely. Every area the white race has inhabited except europe it has been eradicated. It is happening before our eyes in North America. Wake up.

Yes, I know. White folks get slaughtered all the time. I know this.

As a Christian I do not condone mass slaughter unless we are at war. Frankly I do believe there is a war against Christians and Europeans but we were not notified of it.

After the Jewish element and foreigners are eliminated from our lands.. and maybe all jews and muslims are KOd, I dont see the pount of genociding everything else.

Actual fascist here, been one for years now. I'll explain to the best of my knowledge.
First, fascism is a comprehensive worldview, not just an authoritarian state. Second, it's not leftist or centrist. It is firmly based in the right, since it supports hierarchy. Third, National Socialism is just the German form of fascism - just as Falangism was the Spanish form of fascism.
Now what exactly is fascism? Fascism is the view that man must adhere to natural law. Doing otherwise inevitably leads to the demise of civilizations. This basic premise is what leads to all of our beliefs & policies. Man is naturally tribalist. Therefore we value our people over foreigners. Men are naturally unequal. Therefore we support hierarchy, rather than mob rule. Man is naturally a social animal. Therefore we support socialism for the nation, rather than capitalist individualism or communist globalist socialism.
These are the deeper reasonings behind our policies. Too often people fail to see beyond the superficial aspects, which is why they end up with the misconceptions I listed.