Thoughts?

You know what, we will do it like the Cred Forumstards
Dubs decide if the land of the memes is returned to the German peoples

We "won" but we still lost.

rollinnggg

Germany should have been dismantled after the first world war.

check em

Implying Germans didn't steal these lands in the first place.

The trips have spoken

Cry me a river. We dont even have more a few hundred miles in breadth. You whine about losing a few landmarks while destroying millions of lives with your warfare.

Fuck you.

I think you meant to say "great" shitain should've been dismantled.

Northern Schleswig only got mutiliated by referendum.
We danes didn't want to take it unless the people wanted it.
One of the reasons the germans were very lenient to us after they occupied us.

A tragedy, if only because Germany was allowed as a unified entity.

austria was never a legit part of germany and the majority of austrians refuse to think of themselves as "germans". the anexion was accepted for economic and political reasons, also did the germans infiltrate the austrian government and bullied the fascist government until the point it broke down. we just wanted to coexist within a fascist block (germany-austria-italia), but hitler sabotaged everything to the point austrians wanted "den anschluss".

>the people living in Northern Schleswig that is, not the entirety of Denmark.

t. butthurt 1/64th german "pureblooded" 14/88 stormweenie

/thread

>tfw l live in a Sudetenland

shut up, austria betrayed the german confederation in 1866, you are lucky to still exist

t. """erstes Kriegsopfer"""

t. preusse

ciao!!!!

The Prussian deportations were genuinely evil.

>memelland

t. Giacomo "il Polentone" Rossi

Are you drunk?

just another butthurt reichsdeutscher struggling with being part of one of the most hated nations in europe.

>deutschland verrecke

>northern Schleswig is German
This triggers the Danish.

>implying Austria is a country

Fuck Germany. It's the reason why Europe's going to shit. It's been the reason why bad shit has happened for a century, now. Seriously. Fuck Germany.

>Germany somehow responsible for WWI
>Germany somehow responsible for the decadent degeneracy that came from the post-WWII period
Wew

Do something instead of bitching on an anonymous image board.

Why do Germans not just owe up to the fact they fucked up and do not deserve that land?

>Germany not responsible for WW1
>Germany not responsible for the "nazification" of right wing politics and consequent degeneracy

>start and lose ww1
>start and lose ww2
>kill millions of people and innocent jews

Germany deserved getting nuked but they got off with much less.

Memel.

>Germany not responsible for WW1
They're not? If Germany is responsible for WW1 then the British and French were responsible for WWII
>Germany not responsible for the "nazification" of right wing politics
Lolno
>and consequent degeneracy
Really now? Hm?

yes, we lost the war on purpose, just so right wing politics will never be enforced again, that was our plan all along.
If you'd have been usefull in the war, it would have never come this far.

Glad you could join us Chaim

>They're not?
How are they not? If Germany didn't get involved because "muh germanic race", WW1 would have been just a small regional squabble
>Lolno
That's why anything rightwing is now labeled as nazi, right?
>Really
Yes. When anything even remotely rightwing is associated with nazis, onlt leftiwing options are seen as acceptable

Austria is pretty much a non-country. It's just a part of Germany that one family owned for far too long a time and now has delusions of separate nationhood and culture.

>yes, we lost the war on purpose
I never claimed you did it on purpose, yet you still lost and caused this

+1, fuck germany. shittiest country in the history of the world

Modern Germany is a cuck nation that doesn't deserve to exist. Protogermany and the Holy Roman Empire should have been split amongst its neighbors. Germany has always worked to destroy white society from within. And they've done a pretty good job of it.

Wait, you are the first global empire, how come you "lost"?

>yet you still lost
And you are part of the reason why. You have absolutely no right to bitch about germany.

>How are they not? If Germany didn't get involved because "muh germanic race", WW1 would have been just a small regional squabble
Nice job ignore the rest of that my post there faggot.
>That's why anything rightwing is now labeled as nazi, right?
>Yes. When anything even remotely rightwing is associated with nazis, onlt leftiwing options are seen as acceptable
>A defeated nation and ideology are responsible for post war propaganda to discourage people from reviving that ideology and nationalism
If Germany had practiced Italian Fascism it would still be demonized. You're either out right mentally disabled or a kike.

You're kidding, right?

Should've butchered it some more.

t. nazi collaborator who also got mutilated

>in this post-war world of (((international peace))), it's wrong and ugly for there to be wars of conquest, no country should be able to gain territory through war
>oh except for when Germany lost their lands at the end of WW2, that was OK
>and when Israel took more land, that was OK too

Really makes you think, don't it?

does germany really have an area called memeland?

Slesvig has always been danish clay desu

*had

Germany was too big for Europe. You thought you were big enough to conquer it, but you failed two times.

It was necessary to cut down Germany into something more EQUAL in power to other states.

p.s. post-WW2 BRD was equal in man size to France.

Our current problems with Germany are that you are too big again and therefore your leader won't listen to criticism.

Being larger =/= being smarter.

Good things they lost all that land otherwise they would be filling it with niggers as we speak.

Hey stripping pole, I see you faggots in every thread. Your butthurt for germany is even worse than what the koreans had for the japs. We get it that you were an inferior subjugated nation that was russia's plaything until relatively recently but can you fuck off with your polan great germany kurwa speech on every fucking history topic?

So you have no counter-arguments.

SAD!
nazi Germany wouldn't

whitewashed wall

you do realize that, if germany didn't lost all this land, there would be different people in charge and probably no imigrant crisis, right?

Dubs of Truth.

>Your butthurt for german

The only genuinely butthurt people here are the Germanboos when they see the "Ubermensch" Krauts dying for good and a lot of Europeans not being Germanophilc enough for them.

It must be sad to peek into reality after being so emotionally invested in XX cent German nationalist propaganda.

Better post some balck and white SS pics Bill, this will surely change something

Good.

Arrogant people who aren't willing to fight for anything.*
I'm assuming this is what you meant.

Austria getting rekt as always

Germans are based

>hitler lost meme land

Well, talking to you more would be genuine animal cruelty.
Bye bye

Germany should be divided and shrinked even further, so that niggers would occupy it completely, while leaving other europian countries uncucked. Germany is responsible for this nigger mongrel shit and must pay.

He's right though. The russians suffered just like you, yet they don't feel the need to cry about germany in every thread.

he is right though, the only things poles ever talk about is doing violence against russians or germans. the modern polish state was actually created for that only purpose, you are a reanimated mad dog with caricature of the polish nation programmed into your psyche

first get your communism and your whole economy fixed before telling other countries to do something.

This is a mongolian basket weaving imagoard where people from all contries are butthurt and 75% is shitposting and trolling. There's a ton of butthurt russkies here, just like everyone else

Or you could both do it at the same time. :^)

There is the problem. A few million were not enough. We should have taken every single male, women and female under our control with us. If Germany can not live, Europe as a whole shall die aswell. We should have let the communists and Anglos rule over ashes and dirt.

Bydlos don't get to talk here.

Currently we are vocally against Merkel's policy and we are trying to stop the refugees, which is doing more for the Germans than all of their current elites put together. And the people actually killing russians nowe are Ukrainians, Pepik

>arrogant people willing to fight for nothing

That's Australia mate.

AHAHAHAHA, THIS is what Schluchtenscheißer actually believe.
t. Hitler, Bohrmann, Eichmann

All these double digit IQ mongrels from non countries looking for a cheap scapegoat.

>Currently we are vocally against Merkel's policy
You pussys backstabbed the rest of the v4 when it mattered, instead the Romanians where the ones that had balls to speak up.

Memeland

with that kind of attitude you will get the whole world against you again.

Stupid Wursts, unable to understand politics.

Ernsthaft, gibt's hier nur noch Judenmüll auf dem Schrottboard?

It doesnt matter if I will say anything or not, even if my country will be erradicated, niggers still will flow into your country like water. The worse it becomes in muslim countries, the more niggers and muslims you will receive. youre done for, let those lands be seceeded to poles or hungarians, which are better when dealing with niggers.

>pussys backstabbed the rest of the v4 when it mattered

lel how did the last cuck government matter? We're with Orban and still haven't taken a single nigger, like all the region

i don't speak turkish

I shall try it with handsigns.

FINISH THE JOB!

This is the right answer.

It would be like having a state to the size of California + Texas, both landmass and economy wise and then wonder why they don't give AF about anything and try dictate the shit for everybody else.

There has to be harmony

Soon...

the absolute würst

we lost a lot of land were made to pay insane and unfair reperations for a war the fucking austrians started and the whole rhineland was demilitarized.

oh, ahmed ...

ULSTER

twitter.com/HeimattreueNdd/status/782851104870637568

Just throw Switzerland and the rest of Poland in there while you're at it

Nevah agan

hitler had the right idea, the goal was to do to europe what prussia did to germany and create a state large enough to guarantee europeans were not bullied by the monstrosities that were forming like ussr and usa

you want to talk about larger states bullying smaller states thats exactly what is happening to europe and will continue to happen as long as it remains full of tiny disjointed and mutually hostile states

>implying Prussia wasn't the best state in central Europe

>kill millions of people and innocent jews
>people and jews

thx for confirming skypes arent people

t. Shlomo Shekelstein

I can only hope that when Merkel fucking leaves and everyone realizes the shit she took on Deutschland that people will fucking put their balls back on and start to clean that shit up.

anything austrians or bavarians say about prussia can safely be dismissed they have always been buthurt.

>prussia
>central europe
choose one and only one.

at least bavaria and austria still exists

The truth is you thought you could win the war fast and dictate the conditions to the losers.

Instead you got dictated.

It's geopolitics, everybody wants to be the big winner telling others what to do.

>They didn't start WWI
>They didn't start WWII
>Not the only ones killing Jews

Just stop you British shitbaby

Hubsburg monarchy best day of my life

...

Danzig - you mean Gdańsk
Posen - you mean Poznań
Stettin - you mean Szczecin (what? you cant even spell it? what a phat raging phaggot)

>le "the aryans dindu nuffin" maymay

The Austrians were the real losers of the war though, if you consider land lost.

fgt

the only thing that Üngüla Mürkel needs to do to survive is to fucking put the fucking pre-criminals in closed secured camps, so that they don't interact with German citizens.

"You want to be a refugee? Here is a designated refugee safe space."

...

Prussia is to Eastern Europe as Austria is to the Mediterranean.

Post about mutilation of Germany, thinking they would put the Polish names instead of the German names.
Why?

Wait, did the region of Poland they invaded belong to Germany pre-WW1?

I cry for Prussia, gone but not forgotten. Making history interesting for nearly 4 hundred years.

>start wars
>get BTFO
>cry about it
all krautcucks should be killed

>kill millions of people and innocent jews
Just realized you're implying that Jews weren't innocent people :^)

It's our rightful clay, no space for german meme names

They got away easy

>lands which were always in slavs and other fags hands
>Germans took it over for couples of years
>IT'S GERMAN CLAY 4EVER!!1
>meanwhile Germany getting genocided by shitskins

can't make this shit up

that's not a bad comparison since austria once had claim in the mediterranean.

Yes, shove them on a fucking island or something, at least with the fucking Turks most of them fucking speak German and have a job

Your clay is in eastern Poland, Belarus and Lithuania famalamadingdong.

>implying i wasn't implying that Jews are above ordinary people

Historical context and significance, I'm not necessarily bashing Poland dude

The only good Germany is one that doesn't exist.

Well then you have a shit comprehension of English

Still too big.

Entire Saxony should go to Czechs, France should have its border on the Rhine. Bavaria united with Austria.

He doesn't have to because you Germs always end up fucking yourselves in the end. Enjoy the Hooton plan

check historical maps again instead drinking nigger semen all the time

Oops image fucked up.

This will tell you all you need to know about Germany.

youtu.be/4ztOV2wrrkY

Rightful Lithuanian clay since the 800th year of our lord

we need to reanimate polabian slavs and exterrminate germs living on their land

>belgium is still a thing
Why? If Germany ceases to exist, Belgium loses it's only reason to be a thing

>innocent jews
No such thing, Shlomo.

Gas yourself.

That as well. In fact entire former East Germany should be slavicized again and renamed to Wendia.

>Thoughts?

...err... who gives a fuck?

That's my thought on this: Who gives a fuck?

>OP makes thread about lands now belonging to Poland
>Hey guys what do you think of this
>Pole enters thread to comment
>GTFO reeeeeeeeeeeeeee

the East Germans are highly German-nationalist precisely because they are genetic Slavs, but speak German

Konrad Mazowiecki imported people who later became prussians in 1226, therefore it's ours.
>pic related
Tell me about somalian rightful clay in Stockholmistan

what do you say to a Germany with two massive World War losses?

Nothing you already told it twice.

People who live in the past.

Germany was punished; but it was punished for murdering 20 million people.

And then we were propped up as a bastion against Stalin, which, combined with our mercantile and trusting quickly culture, made us very rich again. There is no reason to complain; we lost all of these countries, but we are richer than them.

We're very rich. We're living comfortably. Unemployment is low, crime is low (don't believe the memes, look at some real statistical trends). We have to be careful to not fall behind, but the problems Germany is facing today aren't that we lost our eastern territories.

Now, we're surrounded by friends - the Poles, the French, the Austrians, everyone. What's better than being rich, in peace, and surrounded by friends?

Reminder: the second one we lost to Stalin and Churchill, not you.

Good job in the Pacific though.

>Now, we're surrounded by friends - the Poles
your puppets lost the election hans

These were all originally slavic lands which were taken by ugly germanics and then retaken by slavs

ETERNAL
N
G
L
O

> attack Poland for bullshit reasons
> fail to defeat the UK because "muh Plan Z"
> invade the USSR treating Slavs as subhumans (inb4 "Italy delayed Barbarossa")
> declare war on the US
> get stuck in Stalingrad (inb4 "all fault of Italians on the flanks")
> spectacularly fail at Kursk
> kill gazillion of whites for nothing

Surely not your fault
inb4 "muh versailles"

What were Jews who lived in isolated villages in Ukraine guilty of?

>Germany was punished; but it was punished for murdering 20 million people.
I wonder how's it possible that admiring Nazis is almost a taboo, while Stalin killed ~60 millions of people and to this day some faggots love sickle and hammer and it's (sic!) legal.

You personally, and some of your friends, may be full of hate, but our countries are - finally, after much strive, and all the wrongs we did to you - brethren, allies, and at peace.

What's your answer to why that is so?

all X are Y

generalization is the most stupid intellectual sin.

>attack Poland for bullshit reasons
Policies of Józef Beck somehow forced Third Reich to change it's geopollitical interest.
It's not all black & white.

ITT

>devide and conquer
>shitposting
>opinions based on post war propaganda
>opinions based on dindu nuffin
>opinions about rationalizing the murder of millions

What the fuck has this shithole here become in the last 6 month? Everyone sits basically in the same boat and instead of going strong for a common cause, Cred Forums now seems to have resigned and most posts are about pointing the finger at someone elses sinking boat while already standing neck deep in the water himself. Fucking pathetic how the shills have devided and conquered this place beyond believe.

It's like sitting in the mass grave while being burried and laughing at the ones being hit first with sand from the diggers at the top.

why does Austrian cities have Italian names (which nobody uses btw)?

>JIDF
>SRS
>Gamergate
This happens in cycles. And it's been going on for a lot longer than 6 months.

>What the fuck has this shithole here become in the last 6 month? Everyone sits basically in the same boat and instead of going strong for a common cause, Cred Forums now seems to have resigned and most posts are about pointing the finger at someone elses sinking boat while already standing neck deep in the water himself. Fucking pathetic how the shills have devided and conquered this place beyond believe.
Nationalism is inherently like this. Cred Forums is proof that the idea that a disunited Europe, or a disunited West, is a stronger civilization, is wrong.

I believe "they" had to find a scapegoat and as we know victors write history. So they chose the lesser evil, condemned a small devil, but forgot about a giant satan in the east.

You mean this?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Poles_by_Germany

only depends on the way its united

Belonging to a devil-worshipping tribe. Will you shut up and gas yourselves now?

>muh 2 million during the war
>let's ignore the 10-12 million Germans after the war

By how much do you think was Hitler a lesser evil than Stalin?

And I certainly don't think it's even remotely accurate to call what happened after 45 "forgett[ing] about [..] the east". What happened after 45 was, after all, the COLD WAR, with the West's united economic might being moved against Stalin, thousands and thousands of nuclear weapons pointed at Moscow, and so on.

Look at Germany. We were forgiven (by America), almost immediately, because we were useful allies. Just after we had murdered tens of millions, we were reintegrated into the West and given money and technology and a voice - and weapons. Why? To stand against Stalin.

Soviet Russia was THE main enemy of the West from 45 up till 1990.

Nationalism is a terrible way.

there's still too much of it left

Implying commieblock statistics are anywhere near as reliable as Western sources.

I dont deny that. just pointing out that germany didnt get off the hook easy, and that the measures taken were almost as bad as splitting germany.

We came to Poland with a list of people to be rounded up and murdered. We came there to destroy them as a nation. This was not self defense.

Now, you're better with us than without us. We're a voice of reason and unity and moderation in our joint union.

Oh I think we had a little something to do with your demise...

Say hello to:
Boeing Aircraft Co.
Consolidated Aircraft Co.
Lockheed
North American
Bell Aircraft
Martin Aircraft
Ford Motor Company
General Motors
Chrysler Motor Company
Kaiser Motors
Winchester Repeating Arms Co.
Remington Arms Co.
Springfield Armory
International Harvester
Harrington and Richardson Firearms
Smith and Wesson
Colt Firearms Company

and the list goes on and on...
So Stalin and Churchill did have some help in crushing the German dream of Germania. Good job on the jews though..

>memelland

Is that really what that area is called.

they got what they deserved tbqh.

>So Stalin and Churchill did have some help in crushing the German dream of Germania
Certainly. You helped them.

And I'm glad you did - had the war been prolonged by a failure to support Russia and Churchill, you would have dropped the bomb on Berlin after all.

>not giving luxembourg an empire
you had one job

>read this list
>my family name on it (misspelled)

WEW LAD

OUR MINDS ARE DISTNAT, BERLIN IS MORE DISTANT SO BRITS GREET YOU BY SHELLING

KONIGSBERG IS DISTANT, BERLIN IS MORE DISTANT SO BRITS GREET YOU BY SHELLING

BRITISH SHELLS ARE LED BY GOD'S HAND WHERE WE SEND IT, OUR SHELLS HIT

WE CAN'T SEE HAMBURG, COLOGNE IS FAR AWAY BUT THE SHELLS HIT, DON'T WORRY BRITS!

BRITISH SHELLS ARE LED BY GOD'S HAND WHERE WE SEND IT, OUR SHELLS HIT(2X)

I ALREADY PITY OUR ENEMIES, IT'S HARD FOR THEM BECAUSE BRITISH SHELLS HAVE EYES!

BRITISH SHELLS ARE LED BY GOD'S HAND WHERE WE SEND IT, OUR SHELLS HIT(2X)

BRITAIN 4
GERMANY 0

Germans derserved all that and even more.

They're not the only ones that deserved getting nuked.

Top kek you the post war propaganda is strong in you.

>By how much do you think was Hitler a lesser evil than Stalin?
I have read thousands of pages by now on what happened and Hitler can't even begin to compare to Stalin in terms of "evil" (muh moral values kek). Stalin had the most powerful military in the world by far and Europe only became half communist thanks to operation barbarossa instead of fully communist, srs.

>We were forgiven (by America), almost immediately, because we were useful allies.
Wrong. Germany was seen as a buffer zone and it did not matter if it will be an agrarian state or an industrialized nation. At first the "deindustrialization" part of the morgenthau plan started, created a damage of 200-300 billion deutschmark (which we got in 1948). But then France and britain protested because to keep their living standards, they needed trade and products from germany. So the marshall plan propaganda started and we got around 15 billion of this over 200 billion in damage back. For the US, it did not matter if we were and agrarian state or something else.

>Soviet Russia was THE main enemy of the West from 45
I would say from 1920 and onwards but nobody realized... thanks to that, the british empire is no more.

>Nationalism is a terrible way.
kek. Muh superstate, muh economy, muh EU army, fuck the rest, fuck culture, language and heritage.

It's a river called the Memel.

Most people on that list ended up shot.

It's nice out here

t. user living in memelland

Yes, probably, and that would have been another tragedy. Better that Adolf put a bullet in his brain. Too bad he couldn't have done it sooner and left Germany in a better position to negotiate.

>This was not self defense.
Yeah tell that to the nearly 400k Germans in Danzig back then which where about to be invaded. This is no justification, just to show that there are 2 sides to a coin, or rather, WW2 looks more like a fucking rubics cube than a coin.

>Nationalism is a terrible way.

You have a stupid definition of it, which is understandable due to the way your nation has been headfucked for the last seventy years.

All that that little word really means is the raising of the ethnic principle in politics. Nothing more, nothing less. This should mean the creation of nation-states, or federations of them, based on actual ethnographic data. Conquering and landgrabbing is actually AGAINST this, in so far as it denies the ethnic principle of one's neighbours. And it is obviously risky, and jeopardises the ethnic security of one's own people, as was proven the case in 1945. Hitler fucked up and went imperialist, losing sight of nationalist goals.

Learn our history friendo, we have been German at the very least since the first mention of Germany as "Deutschland" which was in the 11th century. Austria, being a margraviate at the time, and as such part of the duchy of Bavaria.

Austria's history and identity is built upon its emperors, archdukes, dukes and margraves who were themselves part of a much greater political and cultural entity, the Holy Roman Empire (inb4 Voltaire). It is also based on the thought of us not being German, which doesn't make any sense as our borders kind of represent the area within the Austro-Hungarian Empire with a german majority. Don't call them "german speaking" as wikipedia articles often do, actual records from that time refered to them as Germans and they themselves did.
An Austrian identity that is completely independent from our German ancestry is unthinkable. A typical German does not exist, there are Bavarians, Prussians, Saxons etc. as well as Austrians. There are many layers of German culture, what unites us are our language, shared political history and somewhat cultural similarities.
Most of us are Germans in denial, but just because most of our fellow Austrians deny their heritage does not mean they are right you know. Maybe it is for the better now to not be part of the Federal Republic of Germany as they are definitely more cucked than us. We could still turn it around somehow.

>Look at Germany. We were forgiven (...) because we were useful allies
Operation Paperclip & their intrest in the region
>Soviet Russia was THE main enemy of the West from 45 up till 1990.
Quite obviously, but wouldn't it be Third Reich if it was triumphant?
>By how much do you think was Hitler a lesser evil than Stalin?
He murder 1/3 of people Stalin has, so somehow it makes him lesser evil I guess.
Also Hitler didn't have sole responsibility, he wasn't in fact half as influential as Stalin was in his country.

>I have read thousands of pages by now on what happened

I bet you read "fornidden" history like this (pic related)

You should really hold some common conferences with the WEWUZ niggers before you die out, there are just too many historical lies floating around.

Greater German Empire when?

even your rivers are memes

>And I'm glad you did

Them not helping Britain and the USSR would have meant Britain defeated (they got support even before the war started) and Germany not having a western front would have been the end of communism, especially without lend lease too. From where do you think would they then drop the nukes on Berlin? Aircraft carriers sitting in the atlantic ocean which can magically bypass anti air defence?

One thing I can't forgive Intelligenzioneeinsatzgruppen is murdering Boy-Żeleński and the rest of professors at Lwów University. Oh, and also trying to wipe out a nation by killing any priest or teacher they've found.

>Quite obviously, but wouldn't it be Third Reich if it was triumphant?

any power that grows is a threat to the established power.

geopolitical logic.

Its called history books devide and conquer shill

Mykola, shouldn't you stay in your country?

>Stalin had the most powerful military in the world by far
That's just stupid. He almost fell apart when attacked by Germany.

Had Germany united with Poland (who hated the Russians and had just beaten them in a war in the 20s) and Britain (who were also anti-commie, and had German-aligned royalty) against a Stalinist attack, they could have EASILY stopped Stalin.

>For the US, it did not matter if we were and agrarian state or something else.
A strong Germany was obviously a better buffer zone. They wanted the German military and industrial potential.

>I would say from 1920 and onwards but nobody realized
It was the STATED enemy from 45 on.

>kek. Muh superstate, muh economy, muh EU army, fuck the rest, fuck culture, language and heritage.
You are contributing to the disunity and weakening of the West.

Much, in fact, like Hitler.

>Too bad he couldn't have done it sooner and left Germany in a better position to negotiate.
We ended up with a fantastic deal. I'd rather say it's a shame we killed tens of millions of slavs first.

>Yeah tell that to the nearly 400k Germans in Danzig back then which where about to be invaded
Again, we came with lists of intellectuals to be shot. To protect persecuted Germans in Poland from polish aggression, you DON'T NEED TO KILL THE POLISH ELITE.
We came to reduce them to an agragrian slave society. Read Mein Kampf and Hitler's second book. He explicitly states that was his goal.

>Take a boat down Meme river

I love this region already.

>Start a 'Kingdom of Memeland'
>Citizens are 'Memists'
>Flag is pepe
>Start planning on making a Memeland reich
>Turn Europe into 'Memeland'

MEME LLAND

>any power that grows is a threat to the established power.

Exactly, when people finally realize this truth, WW1 and WW2 look much different. The #1 basically needed war to stay #1, with peace, they would have declined. Just like the US foreign minister/ambassador said in 1992, WW2 was a economic pre-emptive strike by the US. They didn't give britain the clean slate against germany for nothing... and then supporting the nazis to kill the british empire kek. The US really played everyone.

>Nationalism is a terrible way.
at the same time for unity to even exist there has to be some sort of distinction between those that make up the group and those that dont

Ładne numery. Jeżeli zważysz jaką wagę Beck przywiązywał do zmiany sojuszy, przypomnisz sobie, że formalnie bylismy sojusznikami Trzeciej Rzeszy do marca 1938 i w jaki sposób Hitler traktował "Dziadka" do jego smierci, to zauważysz, że Hitler prawdopodobnie uderzyłby na Francję, gdyby nie Beck i gabinet Kwiatkowskiego. Chciałem tylko udowodnić, że nie wszystko jest czarno-białe, nawet jesli szkodzi to naszemu wizerunkowi za granicą.

>Eupen-Malmedy
>Even German to begin with
(you)

I see KEK's divine wisdom through these trips

>This should mean the creation of nation-states, or federations of them, based on actual ethnographic data.
In reality, what you get is people bickering about if Spaniards are "White".

Who gives a fuck. We're united in supporting an Open Society, a liberal social democracy. That's what unites our nations.

>Operation Paperclip & their intrest in the region
What's your point?

>Quite obviously, but wouldn't it be Third Reich if it was triumphant?
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean.
You said Stalin - the "great satan in the east" - was exculpated. I said that this is false; he was in fact the stated main enemy of the West for decades.

>He murder 1/3 of people Stalin has, so somehow it makes him lesser evil I guess.
He came to murder you. Stalin MOSTLY let his own people die because he was incompetent. (I know he also killed Poles and Ukrainians, but mostly his own.)
Hitler came to exterminate.

>Also Hitler didn't have sole responsibility, he wasn't in fact half as influential as Stalin was in his country.
Hitler was a dictator and what Germany actually attempted is pretty much what he had proposed to do in his books in the 20s. He proposed to turn the slavic nations of Europe into agragrian slave societies, and that is precisely what the Wehrmacht then went out to do.

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>That's just stupid. He almost fell apart when attacked by Germany.
Kek, his offensive military was all close to the border. They didn't have defensive plans ready, that's why. Just look at the numbers, Germany had like 3000 tanks, the soviets had 24000 tanks (and they where not technologically inferior despite what the propaganda wants you to tell). Germany destroyed 34k tanks in the first year. The Nazis could even fight for so long thanks to resources from the soviets and when stalin was about to stop this... they invaded him which he thought could not be despite getting prior reports that the invasion is coming (while he is preparing his own).

>A strong Germany was obviously a better buffer zone.
It does not matter to nuclear bombs if there is a city or just crops

>You are contributing to the disunity and weakening of the West.
The West is not only military and economy. Your way will destroy its heritage and culture in the long run. Yes we will be "stronger" with force, but weaker in spirit.

>Read Mein Kampf and Hitler's second book.
Yeah, the mad ramblings of a depressed 34yo sitting in prison is the ultra master plan never to be changed. Why is Mein Kampf the best source ever and the other "Nazi stuff" is just propaganda? Because Hitlers speeched paint a way different story. And yes, I have read it, and thousands of additional pages of history books.

>Them not helping Britain and the USSR would have meant Britain defeated (they got support even before the war started)
Göring never really came close to beating the RAF. The Royal Navy was always better than the Kriegsmarine.
Yes, stopping all TRADE with the US would have starved the island eventually (though they had a lot of reserves in the colonies). But why would that happen?
In the end, the US entered the war because we kept shooting their merchant ships with uboats.

It was tight at times, but Sea Lion was a stupid idea from the start.

And you're underestimating Stalin.

Look at the Polish guy I'm arguing with, who believes Stalin had the most powerful army in the world at that time. He didn't, but he was still capable of holding off an invasion until Winter came, even with less lend-lease. It just would have been even costlier.

>What's your point?
Americans have a tendency to use other nations to realise their geopolitical interests
>Quite obviously, but wouldn't it be Third Reich if it was triumphant?
>Sorry, I don't understand what you mean.
Look here >Stalin MOSTLY let his own people die because he was incompetent.
>Hitler came to exterminate.
It's hard to decide which one is worse, but after seeing what Poland has become after 70 years of Soviet occupation I doubt that Nazi rule would be far worse, maybe similiar.
>He proposed to turn the slavic nations of Europe into agragrian slave societies, and that is precisely what the Wehrmacht then went out to do.
I always thought it began with Mitteleuropa in 1915, but Hitler was just a "usefull idiot"

>In reality, what you get is people bickering about if Spaniards are "White".

No, that's what you get with racism, Dummkopf, and specifically its trans-Atlantic brand.

>We're united in supporting an Open Society, a liberal social democracy. That's what unites our nations.
Then you are my enemy, and the enemy of Europe. Or a good troll who has baited well, well done!

Quite decent Polish, Mykola, just put "byliśmy" instead of "bylismy" and "śmierci" instead of "smierci". Still, 10/10.

>One thing I can't forgive Intelligenzioneeinsatzgruppen
What CAN you forgive them for? It seems to me everything they did was terrible.

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WHEN THEY WANTED TO EXTERMINATE US
BUT THEIR DREAMS FELL APART
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THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD BE EASY TO HANDLE US
THEY SAID IT MUST BE LIKE THAT
BRAVE WARRIORS HELPED US
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This man has good sense. If only modern Germans could look deep down into themselves and summon up their inner Wend...

We're not in danger of running out of distinctions any time soon. Start with language.

Look within your country. It's a unity, but it's still diverse, and not based on ethnic diversity. Why can't we be much more like that across our nation's borders? We're all Europe. We want peace and democracy and Western civilization.

DESU Germany got the short end of the stick following WW1. WW1 was the result of arms race and a group of countries who didn't get along. Germany neither started it nor wanted the war. They just did really well in the war so they got all the blame for it.

WW2 was their revenge.

Fuck off with the biggest traitor in world's history.

>Hitler came to exterminate.
>Hitler was a dictator

God dammit, the based pole is correct. Hitler did not supervise literally everything. His generals and OKW could do their own shit, All concentration camp stuff was supervised by himmler etc.. A single person can not supervise such a war effort. Its just not possible. What you describe would lead to pre Napoleon I war tactics which the prussians still had against Napoleon (and they lost).

>turn the slavic nations of Europe into agragrian slave societies
Actually mein kampf talks about the slavs becoming economic slaves like china is today, cheap work people. This "literal slave and extermination" is generalplan OST... which has never been found.

I'm really getting disgusted reading Pakistanis on here, please leave

>What CAN you forgive them for?
Oh, and also trying to wipe out a nation by killing any priest or teacher they've found.
It was irony, these deeds are unfogiven.

You owe your countries very existence from his pity.

Had he not taken pity on the poor Pole you would have been a county in the German Reich forced to speak a language foreign to you while your ancestors were forced to work until their poor miserable earthly bodies couldn't handle.

You sir are a textbook definition of a cuckold.

I ancestors weep in the afterlife.

t. 1/365 germanic warrior

dismantling Germany and trying to forcefully, inappropriately keeping us in check with ridiculous reparations and demilitarization for a war that basically nationalistic Europe started in unity blaming us for the whole mess... well that's exactly what led to Hitlers rise you dumb anglo fuck

i would be okay with that but then the EU thats advertised so nicely floods us with new "europeans" from africa, if you cant even decide on what a european is besides living here its a meaningless term

makes me think its more just an american style genocide to make more useful vassals on the eurasian continent from which to stage attacks on any threatening group that forms

how deluded are you burger?

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>willing to fight for nothing

"not willing to fight for anything" would be the correct phrasing Krautbro

>Göring never really came close to beating the RAF.
The RAF was actually close the collapsing if the Luftwaffe would have continued to bomb air fields and radar stations. But the retards went for the cities instead.

>The Royal Navy was always better than the Kriegsmarine.
Chuchill said in his memoires that the Submarines nearly did them in (just like in WW1). A few more and they could have bled the island dry. Without resources getting in by ship, they are fucked.

>the US entered the war because we kept shooting their merchant ships with uboats.
The US gave the clean slate to the UK in 1938. Then the US gave a shoot in sight order to german ships/subs in the atlantic and Hitler mostly gave the order of retreat because he did not want to make the lusithania event again. The US was in the war since the beginning. Dammit you are spewing the same post war propaganda out left and right.

>who believes Stalin had the most powerful army in the world at that time
That was me. Stalin had more tanks, more planes, more infantry, more paratroopers, more resources, could have build the best bomber in the world, had the best tank, the most land, the most population which could be send into the war and most of this was lined up close to the border when barbarossa started. Claiming that the USSR was not the strongest at that time is pure insanity. The Nazis just had luck in getting a suprise attack going that is all and Stalin not having defensive plans.

Umm... Stalin + all other commies have deported or killed around 300,000 poles, thats in >40 years.

Hitler + his german buddies killed or caused the deaths of 1/3rd of Polands population, more than 10 MILLION people, most - civilians... in 3 years.

>The West is not only military and economy. Your way will destroy its heritage and culture in the long run. Yes we will be "stronger" with force, but weaker in spirit.
And the disunity you are sowing is not weakening our spirits?

What about you destroying our christian values? What about you destroying our political union?

>Yeah, the mad ramblings of a depressed 34yo sitting in prison is the ultra master plan never to be changed. Why is Mein Kampf the best source ever and the other "Nazi stuff" is just propaganda?
Because that is what they ACTUALLY ENDED UP DOING.

He wrote in the 20s that he'd invade the east and turn it into a peasant's slave state. Cue 1940, and we are in Poland, shooting everyone with glasses and taking their grain.

>I doubt that Nazi rule would be far worse
Well then just compare what we did when we occupied you for a few years, to what Stalin did when he occupied you for a few decades.
We killed what, 3 million poles?
The Russians did Katyn. We destroyed Warsaw.

You doubt, and I'm telling you to just look at what actually happened.

>Hitler was just a "usefull idiot"
Hitler had a singular plan, different from what most people wanted, and he got a good part of it done. And that included destroying Poland.
He wasn't a pawn. He had a plan - written up in his books in the 20s - and he had the Wehrmacht start carrying it out.

It has always been like that. l2bantz

If it's too hot for you in the kitchen you shouldn't have become a cook.

traitor? if beck didnt sell our country to allies then we would conquer soviets with germans and war would totally went differently

ps. churchill was a god tier politician

kek

>buying into le perfidious anglo maymay

No

>started

Kek.

Plans were already laid out to conquer Russia and unite the Habsburg Empire to form a Super German Reich.

You think Hitler's "lebensbraum" policy came out of nowhere.

The German high command already planed it from the beginning they only needed reason to go to war with Russia and the assassination of the heir to the Habsburg throne gave a proper casus belli.

If you Germans weren't so arrogant and land hungry Europe would still be dictating this Earth.

Time and time again it has been shown that Germany's only existence is to bring Europe down and destroy her.

Hear hear.

t. Englander in Spanischen Lebensraum

>No, that's what you get with racism, Dummkopf, and specifically its trans-Atlantic brand.
Why is it that nationalists so readily become racists?

Are you telling me you think we should all try to become like Franco's Spain?

>Then you are my enemy, and the enemy of Europe. Or a good troll who has baited well, well done!
If you are against an Open Society and a liberal social democracy like what we currently have, then yes, it seems we disagree.

>God dammit, the based pole is correct. Hitler did not supervise literally everything. His generals and OKW could do their own shit, All concentration camp stuff was supervised by himmler etc.. A single person can not supervise such a war effort. Its just not possible. What you describe would lead to pre Napoleon I war tactics which the prussians still had against Napoleon (and they lost).
You're fighting a straw man. Yes: Hitler didn't tell Heydrich where to put the concentration camps. But Hitler did order his people to invade Poland, destroy it as a nation, and turn it into a subjugated slave state.

>Actually mein kampf talks about the slavs becoming economic slaves like china is today, cheap work people
Agrarian slaves. Peasants, who produce the grains for the industrial German citizens.

>European conflicts are America's business

>Memelland

Very nice.

>dismantling Germany and trying to forcefully, inappropriately keeping us in check with ridiculous reparations and demilitarization for a war that basically nationalistic Europe started in unity blaming us for the whole mess

You are actually right. As we can clearly see with your "People's" current behavior the only way to make Europe safe for white civilization is to completely exterminate every German and wipe out the entire German diaspora worldwide. The Eternal Kraut is a force of destruction, a cancerous tumor that keeps trying to kill Europe time and time again and will continue to do so for that is its nature.

To be honest that's history. Territories always changed in Europe over centuries, that's nothing for eternity.
Also the population changed over times, Germany colonized the East before and Germanized many Slavs.

>compare what we did when we occupied you for a few years, to what Stalin did when he occupied you for a few decades.
You may be right, we at least survived as a nation, dunno if I could say the same after a few decades occupation by Thrid Reich.
>The Russians did Katyn
I always wondered is it pure goincidence that both argessors tried wiping out our best educated officers, proffesors, priests. There might've been something "special" in Ribbentrop-Molotov added, just makes you think.
>He had a plan - written up in his books in the 20s - and he had the Wehrmacht start carrying it out.
After Polish-Soviet war hitler admired Piłsudski as an example of authoritarian leader and respected Poland, so I'm not sure if the books were written later, or did he gain respect after publishing them and changed his point of view in the light of new events.

>And the disunity you are sowing
Your argument is based on the lie that their ever was unity. The EU just gave us free trade, the same currency and no border checks when going on vacation. I don't sow anything, I stand for a strong unity for the nation states. I would be for a EU which would have used Nationalist propaganda for their own countries AND for the continent itself, creating the idea to protect ones continent and not dissolve into a retarded superstate of cultural insignificance and more uprooting of the people.

>What about you destroying our christian values?
Are you retarded!!?

>What about you destroying our political union?
The current union is only on paper, most people are already fed up with it.

>He wrote in the 20s that he'd invade the east
The invasion of the USSR was for resources. Stalin was about to stop them coming which would have meant defeat for the Nazis. Stalin made the error of closing in on the Rumanian oil fields and stopping 180km short of them. This was his error. He was now within bomber range of german oil supply and this alerted Hitler. Would have Stalin taken the oil fields then it would have been bye bye for the 3rd reich in 1940 (in addition to other resources like timber, iron etc). This was the reason for the invasion, not some grand scheme from mein kampf. This does not mean that it would not have happened at a later time but in 1941, the attack on the USSR was not for lebensraum, it was for not running out of resources and dying.

I have a very good idea what Europe is. It is beautiful, and it doesn't require us to define ourselves as ethnically homogenous. The celts are very different from the nordic people, the italians, or the czech. Yet, we are Europe.

>The RAF was actually close the collapsing if the Luftwaffe would have continued to bomb air fields and radar stations. But the retards went for the cities instead.
That's the point. Göring was stupid. If he hadn't been stupid, he wouldn't have attacked the island in the first place. He would have known the New World would have come to the defense of the old, as it did.

>Chuchill said in his memoires that the Submarines nearly did them in (just like in WW1).
They could have killed more US merchants, yes.
Which in turn would have reliably drawn the US into the war.

>That was me. Stalin had more tanks, more planes, more infantry, more paratroopers, more resources, could have build the best bomber in the world, had the best tank, the most land, the most population which could be send into the war and most of this was lined up close to the border when barbarossa started. Claiming that the USSR was not the strongest at that time is pure insanity. The Nazis just had luck in getting a suprise attack going that is all and Stalin not having defensive plans.
And if Germany had given Poland the same assurance it had received from the brits, the 3 nations could have easily held off Stalin. Easy as that.

Russia was ~100 million poor, pre-industrialized people. They were NOTHING against an Europe that wasn't devastated by Hitler's attacks.
The only reason Stalin got half of Europe was that Hitler weakened all the anti-communists.

This.

We need a time machine to tell Napoleon to genocide the Germans.

>memelland
What

>Why is it that nationalists so readily become racists?

Because, and here you have to open your eyes a little and look out the window, our nations are being flooded with parasites and murderers from the Global South.

>Are you telling me you think we should all try to become like Franco's Spain?

I'm not even Spanish. But that Spain was a damn sight more functional than the one I live in today.

>If you are against an Open Society and a liberal social democracy like what we currently have, then yes, it seems we disagree.

Are you even aware of what it means to CAPITALISE "Open Society"? It's the name of an NGO that perverts democracy in the name of destroying Europe and Europeans. As for the horrors of neo-liberalism that you seem so in love with, i don't even know where to begin. Are you a 14 year old girl or something? Honestly, seeing what has been made of many German men makes the territorial punishments inflicted on Germany seem nothing in comparison with how they've destroyed you in spirit. I weep for the old Germany.

>But Hitler did order his people to invade Poland, destroy it as a nation,
Yes
>and turn it into a subjugated slave state.
No

You could actually make reasonable arguments if you just wouldn't put in a few pieces of shitty propaganda here and their. Have even read at least one book about soviet fighting capabilities and stalins plan/preparations which use information from the post 1990 era?

And before I go I'll add a little something. When my father was held captive and "worked" in a mine the Germans tought him a song "Deutschland, Deutschland uber alles, sand und wasser das is alles"

Its importing the shitskins part of that plan? makes sense

you broke apart because of religion when germans went protestant. Its the same shit as Serbs/Bosnians/Croats.

we are all more genetically similar to eachother than single ethnic groups like the han chinese
>I have a very good idea what Europe is
what is it? and what are europeans? the EU creating the opposite of unity, a group containing everything is not a group

>You may be right, we at least survived as a nation, dunno if I could say the same after a few decades occupation by Thrid Reich.
It certainly wasn't Hitler's intention to let you survive as anything but slaves.
They stole the "aryan" Polish children to be raised as Germans!

Stalin didn't care for the Poles, but at least he didn't consider them Untermenschen. Stalin was a killer. Hitler was a murderer.

>After Polish-Soviet war hitler admired Piłsudski as an example of authoritarian leader and respected Poland, so I'm not sure if the books were written later, or did he gain respect after publishing them and changed his point of view in the light of new events.
Certainly not enough respect to not, say, destroy Warsaw, or build all the camps.

He may have had some respect for individual poles, but that certainly didn't prevent him from killing them nonetheless. Maybe he would have allowed individuals to "become Germans", but he would have destroyed the Polish nation.

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Don't worry scum.

With a push of a button your whole race and it's entire history will be shadow of the past.

Your entire bastard race shall perish under nuclear hellfire and your lands be repopulated by those who are worthy.

Never again will European blood be spilled because of German aggression.

May God have mercy on you all.

How do we destory the A*yan menace fellow Anglos?

one of them is Didier Drogba ffs.

>I would be for a EU which would have used Nationalist propaganda for their own countries AND for the continent itself,
Well currently you're contributing to nationalist propaganda that works against the continent.

And history doesn't indicate we can have what you propose. You claim there can be nationalist propaganda plus European propaganda. You have yet failed to prove this.

>>What about you destroying our christian values?
>Are you retarded!!?
3.Mose 19,33.

>The current union is only on paper, most people are already fed up with it.
You never gave it a chance. We could have been great.

>The invasion of the USSR was for resources
Not sure what the point is. Maybe he would have attacked a bit later under different circumstances. There was never a possibility of him not attacking, short of Hitler dying and Goebbels getting in charge (in which case Stalin might have attacked himself eventually - to be beaten back by a united US, UK, Poland, Germany, France).

>And if Germany had given Poland the same assurance it had received

Um you know this was offered to Poland by Hitler but because Poland was already being played by the Brits Poland refused that offer? Hitler wanted a defensive alliance with Poland to create a strong barrier against communism.

>pre-industrialized people.
Great, more propaganda. Stalin created the famines and used that stolen food to pay britain, france, germany and the US for technology. He literally created the biggest industrial complex designed for war in the world, especially behind the Urals. He could build tanks faster than all of europe combined... and this is before 1941.

>The only reason Stalin got half of Europe was that Hitler weakened all the anti-communists.
You have it completely backwards. Stalin supported Hitler against Britain because that was his plan even before Hitler got even elected and it worked out brilliant. He literally played all of europe like an instrument right up to the point of the german suprise attack in 1941. Stalin read the first translated version of mein kampf, which was translated at his orders. He knew exactly what to do to get war. Without barbarossa, he would have taken all of Europe (which he needed), thanks to barbarossa he only got half, and thanks to the high ranking german traitors and leand lease from the US, he got half of europe in the end.

You are so uninformed it hurts.

we must unite with other Anglos

>The celts are very different from the nordic people, the italians, or the czech. Yet, we are Europe.
So we import tons of males from africa and middle east because we lack diversity

Breeding camps. Young German women with refugees.

A whole new race of bastards.

Instead of Rhineland bastards they will be known and hailed as the new Germans.

man the whole of Europe were planning for the first World War don't blame that on us, the whole continent was agitated, gearing up with weapons of never seen destruction, indulging in the rise of Europe wide nationalism. It's not like Germany was waiting for the go ahead with their evil masterplan the whole continent was boiling to the point where anything could have set this shit off. If you want to put the blame on a German nonetheless take a look at Wilhelm II that crippled anglo cunt cancelling all of Bismarck's genius treaties eventually setting up our defeat

>Because, and here you have to open your eyes a little and look out the window, our nations are being flooded with parasites and murderers from the Global South.
We weren't in the 30s, and the nationalists still became racists.

They always do. Or, the other way around: the only way for nationalists to become strong, is to tap into racist hatred.

>Are you even aware of what it means to CAPITALISE "Open Society"? It's the name of an NGO
It's the name of a book by Sir Karl Popper. (Soros got his PhD under Popper.)

Read it, it's good.

What else would he have done to Poland after destroying it as a nation? He tried killing all the elites. There was nothing left there but peasants ready for enslavement.
That's why they came with the Sonderfahndungsbüchern.

Your FATHER? How old are you?

>all according to plan :^)

Boo hoo, they did the same thing to their neighbors for centuries. Maybe the "master race" shouldn't have gotten buttfucked by apparently inferior peoples

>a group containing everything is not a group
Why not?

>what is it?
Geographically, the European continent. Historically, the place that made the enlightenment, that first brought the nations of the world in contact with each other. The birthplace of democracy. A place in the past torn up by wars, borders, and spite. Today, much improved.

Well to be frank, Russians don't say shit because they know they're in the wrong.

Soviets were planning on invading western Europe after Hitler defeated the French and English at Dunkirk.

>Today, much improved.
lel

Merkel has already reclaimed almost all of that in the name of EU.

>We weren't in the 30s, and the nationalists still became racists.

EVERYONE was a racist in the 1930s. And to a great extent everyone is and always will be, for the entire existence of races throughout human history.

>They always do. Or, the other way around: the only way for nationalists to become strong, is to tap into racist hatred.

That makes zero sense for many many nationalist movements, many of which were around before foreign races were even seen in their territories.

>It's the name of a book by Sir Karl Popper.

So you ARE aware of the Soros link then. Still makes zero sense to capitalise it. I haven't read Popper, and don't know if Soros is a faithful disciple, but the actions of the latter are more than enough to put a bad taste in my mouth seeing these words capitalised and put forward as a "good" thing.

Germany is literally the whole reason why the world is like this.

>Send Lenin to destroy the Russian Empire
>Forced Europe to release her colonies
>Made Nationalism taboo
>Made Socialism the norm
>Weakened European capitalism
>Destroyed European hegemony
>Made Nuclear bombs
>Changed warfare to the clusterfuck it is today
>Gave Jews a state
>Ruined the middle east
>Destroyed the Ottoman Empire
>Literally gave the communists power

I can go on and on.

Your whole race needs to be genocided.

>Um you know this was offered to Poland by Hitler but because Poland was already being played by the Brits Poland refused that offer? Hitler wanted a defensive alliance with Poland to create a strong barrier against communism.
That must be why he had books ready with 60.000 polish intellectuals to be shot. Just in case the Poles refused his entirely serious offer.

>Great, more propaganda. Stalin created the famines and used that stolen food to pay britain, france, germany and the US for technology. He literally created the biggest industrial complex designed for war in the world, especially behind the Urals. He could build tanks faster than all of europe combined... and this is before 1941.
He was leaping behind the US and Germany in technology throughout the war. They had a few good tanks halfway through the war. They had no military organization after Stalin killed all the officers, a lot of scientists were dead, the country was in disarray, and everyone hated it.

>Without barbarossa, he would have taken all of Europe (which he needed)
Without Barbarossa - or without Hitler.
Without Hitler, who hated the Poles and wanted to rule over England and France, Europe could have easily united against him.

>You are so uninformed it hurts
You're well informed in strange conspiracy theories.

Look, I'm not denying Stalin was quickly industrializing the country, in part because he was trying to build an army. But still: the only reason he could actually rule half of Europe with it is Hitler.

>Today, much improved.

You people are insane. Do you not even acknowledge the corruption of "democracy" by the plutocrats who run our civilisation?

>EVERYONE was a racist in the 1930s
And some were racist in the "the black man is lucky we are ruling over him" sense, and others in the "our nation must conquer the Untermenschen" sense.
And the latter was more nationalist than the former.

>That makes zero sense for many many nationalist movements, many of which were around before foreign races were even seen in their territories.
And in the reality we both live in, nationalists ONLY get into any power if they tap into racist hatred.

>Still makes zero sense to capitalise it.
It's a book. That's its name.

>I haven't read Popper
I can tell.

Democracy - especially ours - is terrible.
And everything that ever was, was much worse.

vae victis

Could someone please summarize quickly the following questions?
>What was the reason for WW1?
>What was the result for Germany of WW1?
>Will Trump make Germany great again as well?

I never learned at school the German perspective of the world wars. But at least we made a schooltrip from Bavaria to Berlin just to have a look at the memorial.

And people ask me why I hate Germans so much.

I'll dedicate my entire life into killing all Germans if it means making Europe great again.

In the end it had to be a non-German reunifying Germany

>We declared war on the whole world and lost. This is obviously the jewish people's fault.

Berlin has too much power
I want 2 germanies again
one for the degenerated "rapefugees welcome" faggots and one for actual germans

Reason: German aggression and land grabbing.
Result: Europe ruined forever. USA become top dog. (((Elites))) now control everything.

3. Hopefully he unleashes the entire US nuclear arsenal towards Germany.

Threads like this prove what a blue-pilled shithole Cred Forums has become.

Read some Antony Sutton or stay ignorant to the elite's ploys and continue to be their useful idiots.

>ignorant

Cred Forums is now truly nationalistic jingoistic redpilled.

It's much better now with flags.

Now we can have pride for our countries.

>The Ukrainians are untermensch, they cannot possibly aid us in the war effort

>the Italians and Japanese are our best buds tho, very valuable allies.

>And the latter was more nationalist than the former.

No, it's imperialist. It involves dragging unwilling aliens into your body politic. Nothing to do with nationalism whatsoever, and desiring to portray it as such is just a low smear tactic used to defame nationalism, which is ultimately a healthy and noble human virtue.

>And in the reality we both live in, nationalists ONLY get into any power if they tap into racist hatred.

The Catalans and Scots would disagree. They espouse civil nationalism, sure, but their existence still refutes your nonsense.

>It's a book. That's its name.

You were talking about a general ideal, so you shouldn't have talked about it as though it were a book.

>>I haven't read Popper
>I can tell.

Who has time to read everything? You ignore my important point - is his disciple faithful to him?

> (You)
>Democracy - especially ours - is terrible.
>And everything that ever was, was much worse.

NONE of my ancestors faced the horrific situation in which I now feel an alien in my own home town. Not since the fucking 500s AD. So fuck you, your kind are losing.

Meme magic is real

>What was the reason for WW1?
Europe was a mess of nation states who all hated each other, many ruled by (obviously incompetent and militaristic) monarchs. Some - particularly Germany - thought they had a smaller share than they deserved, particularly given that the last time they fought against their french neighbors, they won. Meanwhile, everyone kept building up huge armies and spreading propaganda about how everyone else was evil.

>What was the result for Germany of WW1?
- extremely high debt
- the monarchs and generals telling each other that they had lost not to external enemies (being surrounded by a coalition of stronger nations), but to internal enemies (Dolchstoßlegende)
- being really butthurt about having lost territory

>Will Trump make Germany great again as well?
Trump wants to end NATO, renegotiate trade deals to the benefit fo the US, buddy up with Putin, and likely put more pressure on middle eastern states (-> more refugees).

>I'll dedicate my entire life into killing all Germans if it means making Europe great again.
As I said: you spread disunity in Europe.

>one for the degenerated "rapefugees welcome" faggots
The west
>and one for actual germans
The east

Just go live in the east. There's barely any refugees there.

They should have kept elsass-lothringen except the french speaking parts... They just gib money but they are regionalists arrogants scums... We should have the Wallonie though.

ironically this bullshit is actually what we are taught at German schools except the nuking part maybe

>we battled Communism by letting it take over half of Europe.

trump is going to realign the american military alliance to face germany instead of russia.

on the one hand, it sounds pretty bad, on the other hand, im starting to think it sounds better than what the insane german in this thread is proposing

What region of France are you talking about ?

Wow what an argument.

>>one for the degenerated "rapefugees welcome" faggots
>>The west
and give them like 99,9% of all the industrial power of germany? never
draw a line from cologne to frankfurt a.M. to berlin to hamburg = germany for degenerates
>>and one for actual germans
>>The east
>russian rape-babies
>actual germans
dream on

Poles are like "Gib european money".
When it comes to refugees, they flee like french ...

>Europe was a mess of nation states
You are either woefully ignorant or a shameless liar.

AUSTRIA HUNGARY caused the war. Look at its fucking name, and you'll see it wasn't a "nation state". It was a fucking "mess", though. And in annexing Bosnia, it took the messiness to breaking point - and BROKE.

The Great War's origins are complex, but it's all about how various retrograde forces had prevented the decent nation-respecting dissolution of the Ottoman Empire, and how Britain refused to let Germany find its rightful place in the world.

>No, it's imperialist
No true scotsman.

>The Catalans and Scots would disagree.
I admit - that is a good point.
Local groups who are not yet an autonomous nation are often not racist.
However, I argue that they stand against NATIONALISTS, and nationalist interests (of the host nation).
If the spanish were less nationalist, they'd let the catalans and basque go.

>Who has time to read everything? You ignore my important point - is his disciple faithful to him?
That depends. Popper's point is that we should not believes prophets, who want to build policy on a theory they know to predict the future, because we can't predict the future.
E.g., Marx or Hitler will tell you that this is the inevitable course of history, so we must do that. Popper says: we don't know. We will probably make errors, and be open to admitting them, and changing course. For this, he argues, we need to have an open society: that is, free speech and democracy. Only with free speech, civil discourse and democracy can we detect errors and change course.

>NONE of my ancestors faced the horrific situation in which I now feel an alien in my own home town. Not since the fucking 500s AD. So fuck you, your kind are losing.
As a German, I feel at home in Europe. I've seen all of its larger nations (but for Poland, where I've never been), and I think we are a great union.

We don't want anything to do with your """""""""""""""""""""""""""unity"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

Separated we are strong.

I kneel only to the Queen of England and her Government not to a German chancellor or a German selected "European President".

Take your "unity" and shove it down your arse.

Kill yourself and take your countrymen with you down to hell.

t. europes israel

No
You'll have to kill the muds

Just put the Germans where they like it
Under a stern leadership
Just not a pos'd one

Looks like an elephant that has a machine gun snout.

Could also be a great pepe.

>Ödenburg
It was Hungarian soil since we settled down.
You know what else was Hungarian soil, Burgenland, which is now part of Austria. So fuck off.

israel is white and based

>polnish commie loving jew
>hates germans
I'm not suprised

>If the spanish were less nationalist, they'd let the catalans and basque go.

This is nonsensical. The Catalans, Basques and Castilians are ALL Spanish, and Spain is a super-national country, not a nation-state.

Your Popper doesn't seem so bad, but his student happily shits all over free speech and civil discourse, to become more akin to Marx or Hitler in his "I know best" approach.

>As a German, I feel at home in Europe

Go live in Rotherham, the Banlieus or Malmo then. Fucking naive imbecile.

I am not a commie
I am anarcho egoist

I'm not sure what side you see the degenerates on - in the Ruhrpott or in Dresden?

>Separated we are strong.
No.

>I kneel only to the Queen of England and her Government
Actually, no need to kneel before anybody.

There was a reason the Germans had all of these pacts of solidarity (-> promises of declaring war against the brits or french ...) with the (literal) kuk's that made the war inevitable. And that reason wasn't that they liked peace.

Conversely, there was a reason Austria thought it could annex the balcans: they thought they could get away with it - due to German military politics.

Memeland must return.

>anarcho egoist
kys
hating germans comes quite naturally, really, even if one isnt a commie jew

>kys
redbit

>There was a reason the Germans had all of these pacts of solidarity (-> promises of declaring war against the brits or french ...) with the (literal) kuk's that made the war inevitable. And that reason wasn't that they liked peace.

That reason was Wilhelm II being too much of a fuckwit. Bismarck's great legacy was scorned and lost. But Britain did stifle many of Wilhelm's overtures for peace, so the elites in London bear much of the blame too.

>This is nonsensical. The Catalans, Basques and Castilians are ALL Spanish, and Spain is a super-national country, not a nation-state.
I must admit I'm a bit confused now. Do you think the Basque country should be its own nation or not?

>Go live in Rotherham, the Banlieus or Malmo then. Fucking naive imbecile.
>Banlieus
I'm against ghettoization of non-Whites. I think they should be spread around and (soft) forced to integrate.
Know who's against that, who doesn't allow spreading around non-Whites to settle in their backyards?

>That reason was Wilhelm II being too much of a fuckwit
Agreed.

>the elites in London bear much of the blame too.
Agreed.

We absolutely don't want anything to do with your foul race or your country.

Leave us alone.

I assure your petty tricks won't work again.

Force things again and we will surely go to war the third time.

7 LIVES FOR THE QUEEN AND MY COUNTRY!
LONG LIVE HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN!
LONG LIVE ENGLAND!
LONG LIVE THE BRITISH EMPIRE
WE WILL BE REBORN LIKE A PHOENIX!

>Leave us alone.
>us
>shitskin gook trap thinks he's anglo

It is you who is spreading disunity in the west. It is you wo is weakening Europe.

It's always been you, and your people - be they Germans, or Brits, or Poles.

I'm a Brit living abroad. You got a problem with that sonny jim?